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Jacksons & intervention claims (Read post#22 letter by Katherine & others DENYING interventions)

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bluetopez said:
Wouldn't finding out the timeline of the family talking about getting together for a reunion tour with MJ to the media just as important to establishment here!? Since that's what we think "the drug interventions" were really for!?

Like when did we first start to hear about a family reunion tour with everybody in the family (not just the brothers the J5) which was something people like Jermaine were trying to say to the media yrs ago! But, that was different from the whole family and Janet being involved as of recently, correct!?

When did Janet go on LKL and told him she was in a press conference call with MJ to convince him of touring with the fam!? Did she give a date on when that conference call happened?! I don't believe she did?! But, she did say she "been trying" meaning it wasn't the first time trying to convince MJ of this family tour by her! Could her appearance on LKL be close to the a date of one of the conference calls she made to MJ?

I hope I'm making sense here!? :/
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Janet said she was on conference calls with her brothers all the time and they were still trying to convince one that was holding out meaning MJ. She said this on the Ellen show in 2007. She also said the same thing in either 2007-2008 on the Larry King show. So to me they were trying to get their brother, who they now claim was an addict in denial, to join them on tour. If they felt he was so sick they should've forced him into rehab instead of forcing him on the stage
 
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feb/jan 08 larry king
 
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Leornard Rowe was HIRED in March 2007 to manage the tour, less than two months after MJ came back to the U.S from Ireland.
 
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StacyJ said:
Janet said she was on conference calls with her brothers all the time and they were still trying to convince one that was holding out meaning MJ. She said this on the Ellen show in 2007. She also said the same thing in either 2007-2008 on the Larry King show. So to me they were trying to get their brother, who they now claim was an addict in denial, to join them on tour. If they felt he was so sick they should've forced him into rehab instead of forcing him on the stage
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Yea thanks, that's why I said those dates that she said those things on LKL are important! And of course what she said on Ellen too! I never saw her interview on Ellen though, I really need to see it now!

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feb/jan 08 larry king
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Oh okay! Thanks for that too! :)
 
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StacyJ said:
Janet said she was on conference calls with her brothers all the time and they were still trying to convince one that was holding out meaning MJ. She said this on the Ellen show in 2007. She also said the same thing in either 2007-2008 on the Larry King show. So to me they were trying to get their brother, who they now claim was an addict in denial, to join them on tour. If they felt he was so sick they should've forced him into rehab instead of forcing him on the stage
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And that would immediately make one conclude that he didn't need rehab. But to do a reunion tour. His nurse, Cheryll Lee conformed when he took some blood tests in February of 2009, the results were really good, and all that was a bit off, though not at all worrying, is that his sugar levels were a bit low. That was it. An addict's blood tests would certainly not be this positive.
 
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Soundmind.. that does seem like the time frame where they went to MJ's Las Vegas residence to force him to tour with them.. Leonard Rowe was also there so that right there proves what their intent was. It was not about a drug intervention but a tour intervention. God I wish someone would call them out for their lies. Can we find a respectable journalist who will question them on this? The truth needs to be told because Janet, Rebbie and Randy are getting away with these lies and they just might get Conrad the Murderer acquitted
 
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Janet, Rebbie and Randy You liars liars your pants on fire. Seems like the wheels of the vehicle have fallen off. Thank God for MJ fans. If you guys thought you are going to tarnish MJ legency while we sit back doing nothing. Think again.

Guys lets go after them. Remember Michael words; Nothing cant be done if we raise our voice as one.
 
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Ellen Interview...Jacksons reunion at 3:35 http://youtu.be/CbbyJQEi9yQ

Notice she said "HIM"... And we all know HIM isn't Jermaine.
 
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StacyJ said:
Soundmind.. that does seem like the time frame where they went to MJ's Las Vegas residence to force him to tour with them.. Leonard Rowe was also there so that right there proves what their intent was. It was not about a drug intervention but a tour intervention. God I wish someone would call them out for their lies. Can we find a respectable journalist who will question them on this? The truth needs to be told because Janet, Rebbie and Randy are getting away with these lies and they just might get Conrad the Murderer acquitted
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How about that Thompson guy? He writes for Huffington Post I think?

You know the thing about liars? It's that eventually they trip over their own lies and the truth comes out.

We can also contact the Vegas Bodyguards on their facebook and ask them to coroborate these findings.
 
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Memefan said:
Ellen Interview...Jacksons reunion at 3:35 http://youtu.be/CbbyJQEi9yQ

Notice she said "HIM"... And we all know HIM isn't Jermaine.
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yup..I caught that too.....why did they feel the need to pressure Michael if he didn't want to do it..he didn't want to do it. ......thank for posting that video.
 
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please do not use insults to Jackson family members
 
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who said it was in 2007 or 2008? I didn't hear anybody say it was in the first place I am under the impressions that they were talking about from the 90's. maybe 2003 at the latests . the family is being asked about it and they are speaking about it, it as simple as that. (even there are disagreemnts weather ot not they should be adressing it)
The family has always been vocal about wanting to do a show and yes people kept asking them would they are they going to do a show all together, and they ar s still going to be asked if they are doing shows together in the future. so why would you have to lie about it? if they were planning a show why not just say we were talking about doing shows together, they admitt they talked about it before so why would they lie about it now.
 
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riviera1992 said:
How about that Thompson guy? He writes for Huffington Post I think?

You know the thing about liars? It's that eventually they trip over their own lies and the truth comes out.

We can also contact the Vegas Bodyguards on their facebook and ask them to coroborate these findings.
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Good idea to bolded. I did not think of that one. Thompson is a very articulate writer and will do it justice. He will get his own facts plus those we have and make a good article.
 
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Memefan said:
Ellen Interview...Jacksons reunion at 3:35 http://youtu.be/CbbyJQEi9yQ

Notice she said "HIM"... And we all know HIM isn't Jermaine.
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Thanks for the vid never saw it till now!

But, I don't hear "HIM", I either hear "Em" (Short for them) as in all of the brothers!? Or I hear "It" as she been working hard on it (to Convince them all to do it) :scratch: Which interview came first Ellen or Larry King?

Either way though, it's more proof she was pushing for a tour involving MJ like she clearly says on LKL too! Yet, MJ was suppose to be "drug addicted" to even do "This is it!" :smilerolleyes:

By the way in the Ellen interview Janet never mentions herself being part in the plan touring along with her brothers....? o_O But, in truth she was going to be or wanted to be performing in the tour with them and the other sisters! O_O It was suppose to be more then just a "J5" tour!
 
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Charles Thomson believes that MJ was an addict. He is not the person to contact regarding this issue. He has done a good job writing about the allegations, he should stick to that. Other comments he has made about MJ are a little shady but that's a different topic altogether.
 
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When Janet was once asked in an interview if the family is seriously considering or planning a musical reunion, she responded affirmatively, then added in a frustrated tone (not judging, just saying that it was the tone of someone spoiled) that "One is still on the fence" though, or something like that. One would think if you were concerned in your heart about someone's well-being, you would sound sad, a bit pained... not vexed. ..
 
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I wish someone would remind Ms Janet of these interviews and would ask her point blank why if she believed her brother was ill and addicted to drugs was she trying to get him to join his brothers for a reunion tour? If she was trying anything to help him why mention a tour?
 
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That's enough. If we have any more insinuations that Michael was a drug addict then the thread is closed. We won't allow it here.
 
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Right, so second chance with this thread. I have cleaned it. If we could get back on topic to the original posters request with this thread, it would be very helpful.

If you don't agree with the intentions of the thread this is not the time or the place to be acting superior and calling people stupid. Time to get a grip.

Carry on, but any more trouble and it will be reviewed.
 
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thanks
 
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Sophielo said:
That's enough. If we have any more insinuations that Michael was a drug addict then the thread is closed. We won't allow it here.
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I think it was used in a sarcastic way to demonstrate that MJ's siblings stories about Michael being a drug addict have no merite whatsoever.

We have the time and place when they were trying to get Michael on board and at the same time we have the Vegas bodyguards saying they were ordered to not let them in and those same bodyguards also said they never saw any sign, trace or hint of Michael not being "normal" alert and healthy.

And we have Katherine that said on Oprah "Michael said to her: even my own mother doesn't believe me"

We have a coroner's report: Healthy organs, no trace of any other drugs except the one Murray gave him.

We have yet to see the result of an extensive exam by the Insurance company before the rehearsal.

We also have Michael's chefs talking about how healthy Michael was eating. Even though he was a light eater.

Let's just assume for a minute that Michael was dependant on pain meds at some point in the last decade, Ya I admit it, I thought he looked a little "off" at the MSG concert, so effin what!

People have the right to take medication for what's ailing them at some point or another in their life, does that make them drug addict in denial?

There's too much evidence showing that Michael was healthy for most of his life, therefore nobody should be calling him a druct addict period.

I think it would be very helpful if someone has time to put a factual timeline together like the one we have about Michael's death. I'm convinced that , as more information becomes available during the two court cases, we'll be able to debunk this awful myth once and for all.
 
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The fans better start asking some REAL questions- I am not buying this intervention story - especially in light of published reports, that the family was trying to get MJ to sign on for a reunion tour. Then there is the matter of the signed letter from Katherine and several of the brothers stating there was NO interventions! Then factor, the reports from people in Ireland and New jersey - who said there were NO signs of any drug abuse. MJ was Happy and healthy!
All of this is damaging to MJ's legacy. And enables Murray to establish "reasonable doubt"
 
Re: Jacksons & intervention claims (Read post#22 letter by Katherine & others DENYING interventions)

Before all is said and done I truly believe that there will be information that will be revealed that will not be so flattering towards members of the Jackson family as it relates to their behaviour towards Mike.
 
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Like someone else very well point out, Michael wouldn't have been the hands-on father that he was if he needed interventions. Concert interventions is sky-high different than drug interventions, and the former happened for real, as per some of the family members' own public admission in more or less words.
 
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ExoticPrincess said:
Before all is said and done I truly believe that there will be information that will be revealed that will not be so flattering towards members of the Jackson family as it relates to their behaviour towards Mike.
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I agree... I knew some members were bad but I had no idea how shady some of his family members are.. It's very very sad!
 
Re: Jacksons & intervention claims (Read post#22 letter by Katherine & others DENYING interventions)

JustFacts posted this very important youtube clip in the other thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8YFz3mwmuc&feature=related

Guys, just to keep you in the loop...the plan right now is to reach out to a fairly high profile journalist ...one that is known to be fair & accurate. We want to convince him / her that there's an important story that needs to be told.


We have one in mind, not sure if they are gonna agree to this, but I think it's worth a try.

We have come up with only one name (I don't want to put it out there because there are far too many MJ haters on this side of the board) but if you would like to know who we will reach out to, or want to suggest a name, PM me.

Again, thank you for unearthing all these tidbits...they are part of the puzzle.

And our plan is to put them all together, because we believe people are either lying, exaggerating some facts or flat out out to seek revenge on MJ.

And we should all be appalled.

Side note: Thank you to the person who suggested Charles Thomson, but we don't think he is the right person for this.
 
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Meme don't forget what the doctor from 1996 said about MJ not collapsing on drugs , just in case they brought up what Lisa Marie claimed
 
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Soundmind said:
Meme don't forget what the doctor from 1996 said about MJ not collapsing on drugs , just in case they brought up what Lisa Marie claimed
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yeah, that's very important. also, it's worth mentioning all the people who were around MJ who said they never saw MIchael being on drugs (T-Mez, the Cascios, that Irish guy, Las Vegas bodyguards...)
 
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