What's up with the RANDY Hate?

[MyLifeMJ]

Angels do the best things for God and for us and for everything even if we-people- do bad things, they never ever give up doing best for us and never hurt us by doing or saying something. no matter what they do the best for us!!!

People who have an angel in their soul and heart, like Michael, do best things as much as they could. They never do worst things to the others without a reason. if there is a reason, of course they may say -please notice just "say" not "do"- something about them. for example, remember what Michael said about Mottola or Bashir.

This is the difference between angels and the angelic people.




and also, if those bad people show their apolagizes or feel sorry, angelic people forgive them. For example, Michael said his forgiveness even about Joe. but the other people may hurt, if someone hurt them or they never accept them into their lives. they cannot do what Michael does.

This is the difference between the angelic people and the rest.



Michael is an angel in a human body. he never hurts anyone!


ps: sorry for my poor English. i want to say many things but my English CANNOT be enough i hope i could explain my thoughts politely my friends

with L.O.V.E.

 

[Erikmjfan]

the only thing that makes me give Randy the benefit of a doubt is the fact that he was the one who introduced Mike to T-Mez.

 

[jrsfan]

I believe in Randy - obvious he's had really bad legal advice- wonder who his lawyer was? Bet alot might have a Sony connection. hmmmm

 

[kasume]

So fans are bringing up past problems with the Jacksons and using that to completley discredit each and every one of them.

But for $ony/e$tate, whenever past problems about them are brought up, fans mainly shrug it off and say, "that was in the past".

unbelivable. (Michael's brothers all dressed like him at the memorial, cried for him. estate executors didn't even show up at the private burial which they were invited.)

What's up with the RANDY Hate?

There are certain individuals who want to discredit the family before this trial and so they are going out spreading hate about Michael's blood. That's my opinion. And I'm not the only one with that opinion.

The family keeps saying, we can't speak now, we can't say too much right now now, we can't name any names right now. But when they are ready, they WILL speak. I can't say for sure, but it is a POSSIBILITY they will start speaking even more.

Not right now, but in the future, once the truth REALLY starts coming out, the family will undoubtedly be a MAJOR spotlight in all of this. Randy has already mentioned on national television that he believes his brother's death was a first degree murder. That's right, Randy. I agree with you. It was a first degree murder. Keep on saying it on national television. It brings out all the bad insects we never knew of.

So many times, they've been asked about the conspiracy and who is all behind it. But they all say it will come out later. Bashing them like crazy and discrediting them is the only way these inviduals can take away their believability when they FINALLY start speaking of the conspiracy and players. Either that, or take them down, which would be too coincidental. And besides, we don't want any of that.

This is all a strategy, and a kind of good one. Open up your eyes to reality people. Michael Jackson's heart stops beating under the care of a cardiologist, who passed his difficult medical exam, yet does not now how to give CPR.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

I'm sorry, I can't just love every member of that family just becuase their last name is Jackson. I'm a Michael Jackson fan first and foremost. Each member should be held accountable for their own actions and not just get a pass because they are related to Mike.

Exactly what I wanted to say.

oh why oh why didn't Michael just stay in Ireland and never look back?

Wouldn't that have been wonderful? Sigh...

Randy, the most dangerous Jackson (Joe is too stupid to apply for this throne), has also:

- extorted Michael
- testified against Michael after being forgiven (who can forget that one?)
- started slanderous and disgunting rumors about his brother (Diane Dimond is proud)
- hunted Michael endlessly, even during his darkest hours, for money, contracts, etc
- put Michael in debt
- harassed Michael constantly
- attempted to use MJ's kids for his own gain
- is the guy behind this junkie image

And, boy, this is just the tip of the iceberg, the general, the themes. I could go on and on and on and give more insightful and detailed reports but that would take a long time.


Regarding what he did to other people: read court trancripts and Margaret's book.

Randy is an absolute monster.

P.S.- He beat his wife AND his little child.

There is so much evidence that can be found against Randy (even in this thread) that it is sickening. But in my eyes, it doesn't make him any worse than a few certain other family members.

 

[kasume]

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[144000]

So fans are bringing up past problems with the Jacksons and using that to completley discredit each and every one of them.

But for $ony/e$tate, whenever past problems about them are brought up, fans mainly shrug it off and say, "that was in the past".

unbelivable.

i do notice that.

 

[Sunflowers]

Whatever people do or say I think it's wrong to use the word hate.

I sure don't hate him. Yes he's speaking up and is he benefiting from anything? He doesn't have too, he's not getting any money, and he hasn't asked for it either since Michael passed away. I think he's just trying to do what he thinks is right. The whole family is in a complicated situation and even they don't know the real truth anymore.

 

[Alma]

But for $ony/e$tate, whenever past problems about them are brought up, fans mainly shrug it off and say, "that was in the past".

unbelivable.

Exactly... This aspect of shrugging it off with the Real real conspirators and destroyers of Michael's life.... Not inciting to hatred toward them, of course, but companies like these will Never be reliable, they only care about milking money off of a dead Michael, juts like they did when he was alive, re-re-releasing compilations upon compilations that many complained about, yet kept on buying them, as it happens now.....

I remember the Variety TV Shows, where all the siblings were up there and together, and it's something endearing to watch. Sad how life evolved, but those memories are nice, and Michael himself would say he did have fun with his brothers on the road when young. The enemy intervened, however, and ruined everything. It takes strength and lots of pure faith to be like Michael, who always felt different from them inside, which he was. But others could've ended up far worse.

I'm starting to get convinced about that this family is being messed with a lot by some shady forces that make them act or say questionable things, and I'll stick to it. It's something that seems off, weird, it's a weird feeling some give off. I'm not defending them, because some of them said some injurious, non-beneficial things about Michael etc (not to mention Joseph...), but I feel worried about them because, who knows, they may be even threatened so as not to expose information which may be vital for the trial and the prosecution of Murray. That's a possibility, of which Joseph is not a part of, because he seems to be cooperating with the enemy, and Katherine is seriously brainwashed by Man and Schaffel and those other horrible people. Murray didn't act alone, he's got an army of conspirators behind him, really dangerous ones. La Toya's been the most serious or among the most serious in saying unequivocally that Michael was murdered. That former husband of hers was a brainwashing dude, a gangstacking dude who threatened her with her life and her brother's, hence she lied. That's really serious, these people could kill for real. That's why the family seem that ineffective... They need to have a more pure faith somehow, and strength, they seem faith wanderers or simply believing in their own God, but the real One... For Katherine, for instance, to be not celebrating Christmas, Jesus' very birthday, and raising her children the same, that's something too wrong to mention, but I'll not delve in deeper, so as not to offend other JW's. But that's the very reason for which they're the way they are, being confused about what to believe in or believing in a vague higher source. Money is also a very tempting tool to shake some of them... Will they ever get past it, don't know.... really don't.. I know for sure Jackie is a kind person, full of potential, and Marlon too, he's a Catholic Christian and he seems sensitive and down to earth, more firm on his path..

I'll stop, though, before people start bashing again and calling out on others for more extreme opinions or, more likely, facts, like the above, like worshipers and supporters and other crap like that. Just concluding again that hatred being expressed repeatedly is non-favorable to anyone, just wave after wave of negativity, but the enemy or powers that be, who could be only gloating at such hostility.

 

[Memefan]

Yeah I think Randy loves his brother a lot and stil do... unlike Jermaine who is constantly on interviews.He stood by Michael every times when MJ went through bullSh*t in 2003-2005.He seemed like he looked up to MJ ever since he was in a kid.

Maybe you should take Scream Jackson's advice...

 

[Memefan]

Whatever people do or say I think it's wrong to use the word hate.

I sure don't hate him. Yes he's speaking up and is he benefiting from anything? He doesn't have too, he's not getting any money, and he hasn't asked for it either since Michael passed away. I think he's just trying to do what he thinks is right. The whole family is in a complicated situation and even they don't know the real truth anymore.

Are you insinuating all the stories he's sold to X17 & TMZ were free?
:no:

 

[Memefan]

This is when he was charged with fraud, around the same time he filled for bankruptcy for the second time.

THE COURT FILES
October 15, 2000|ANN W. O'NEILL

WHO'S THE BOSS? A Los Angeles record company says it has kicked its president, Randy Jackson--brother of Michael and Janet--off its board of directors. And the company is suing Jackson for mismanagement.

In a lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, Modern Records Inc. accuses the Jackson sib of failing to pay quarterly employee withholding taxes and health insurance premiums. The suit also alleges that Jackson misspent promotions money--most notably on apartments for him and a girlfriend, and to pay off charges the couple ran up on their credit cards. And, the suit states, he failed to disclose that he previously had filed for bankruptcy.

He surely has got a long track record of convictions. That's for sure.

Yep...same thing he did to Neverland employees in 05...which caused MJ major problems.

 

[twinklEE]

Yep...same thing he did to Neverland employees in 05...which caused MJ major problems.

yet these people see and ignore it but whatever to them..

 

[pilinlim]

I found post on Prince.org about Randy:

It's a very long story. As you may know, Randy abandoned his kids. He doesn't talk to them, he doesn't feed them, he simply doesn't care about them.

In 1990, he beat his then wife Eliza and Steveanna. According to hospital reports, the child was so severily beaten, she would have been permanently damaged had the doctors not intervened. Needless to say, to Randy Steveanna doesn't exist. Randy was then sent to jail and to a psychiatric clinic. Had it not been for Katherine crying/manipulating the jury and Randy would have been sent to jail for a longer time.

By the way, two of his children said, recently, that their father doesn't talk to them although they don't know why. If I'm not mistaken, Genevieve said that in an interview with AMO magazine and Steveanna said pratically the same in one of the cheesy internet videos she used to make.

In the mid 90's, Randy was having sex with anything that had a skirt on just like Poppa Joe, Tito and Jermaine. He ended up by impregnanting Alejandra twice. Randy then proceeded to send her to South America and tried everything to stop her from coming back, including begging his mother not answer the phone whenever Alejandra called. It's a very complicated story. Basically, Randy made up a scheme to abandon his children and their mother in South America. He invented excuses to the family as to why the children were in another continent (the kidnap story and so on), hell... read Margaret Maldonaldo's book or court transcripts related to this. It's a very complex story which shows perfectly Randy's psycopathic mind.

Randy was also known for ordering women to perform abortions after abortions.

And there's more but if I can't spend hours writing.

Related to his endless schemes for money;
God, Randy is on Joe's level when it comes to this. From having deals with tabloids to expose Michael's kids for money (and then claiming all he wanted was to make them happy), from lying almost compulsively, from inventing cover ups on a regular basis, from being tabloids MJ's-slanderous-news source...I will not write everything now since my time is limited.

Basically, Randy was involved in MANY frauds in late 90's, early 00's. For example, in 2001 he was found guilty of extorting 21000 USD from an institution of severily handicapped children or whatever that was. Needless to mention, he invented a cover up story to the media about how he (the hero!) had found a person responsible for extorting a "beloved and related" charity insitution.

About what he did to Michael...hell, have you been living under a rock? The huntings during trial breaks, how he played the sympathetic brother in order to sugarcoat Michael and get access to his finances. How he got revenge on him with the media and how, even after Michael forgave him and refused to sue him, he testified against his junkie (the junkie rumors were started by Randy) brother. How Randy extorted his brother in millions and deviated money that Michael gave him to pay the IRS. How he extorted fans with the damn site and invented a cover up blaming Michael. Hell...you don't remember that????!!!

I'll continue another day as I have to study.

Just one thing: if you think Diane Dimond, Tom Sneddon, Andrea Peyser and Nancy Grace have invented many slanderous rumors about Michael, then you're allowed to get surprised after discovering who is behind some dirty and slanderous rumors about him. That's why I'm always mad when the fans blame Michael's poor reputation on the media.

 

[twinklEE]

I found post on Prince.org about Randy:

Randy is evil and he is not the only devilish one in that ''family''.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

My friend once said:

"(Regarding Michael Jackson) I don't understand how someone so good can come from a family so bad."

Amen.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

^ The WHOLE family need to shut. When MJ was alive, when did we EVER pay attention to them? Why must we now?

I don't blame Sony or the Estate. I blame the Jacksons.

 

[chanel05]

I found post on Prince.org about Randy:

i know this may sound crazy, n it might not be true. but i was over at prince.org the other day n i read tht and i thought tht you maybe had posted tht over there. it just sounded like something you would say judging by your other post. n now that you quoted it over here, i find it really weird lol

 

[twinklEE]

Randy needs to shut his mouth and not use the fan community for his personal agenda against the estate and sony. this is going to ruin us and tear us all beyond repair - AND I WILL NOT SIT BY AND LET THIS HAPPEN

What did the bald guy do?

 

[blueocean]

Are you insinuating all the stories he's sold to X17 & TMZ were free?
:no:

Randy brought T-Mez on, randy stood by michael side trough out the trial, It is randy that handeled the details of michael memorial and the anniversary memorial, it is randy that went to CNN to shed light on the fact he believe his brother was murdered and that it is still being investigated and the jackson family want everyone that was involved, it is randy and other jacksons that are speaking out about the supposed to be fake songs on the new album , some parts are mj and some parts are not. you cant say that randy is about money his action speak loud that is standing up for his brother michael.

 

[chanel05]

i see youve changed your signature LOL

 

[kasume]

who's standing right beside Michael on one of the most painful and stressful days of his life....

 

[blueocean]

^ I'm just repeating what Michael warned us about when he was here, that's all.

You want to shove all the past problems with $ony/estate aside and say it was years ago, but bring up past problems with the Jacksons then go ahead.

But to me, that itsn't fair and it's just wrong.

Also, if Michael PUBLICLY denounced sony several times, don't you think he would make a public apology as well if things were good again? He would have let his fans known. There's several vids of him publicly denouncing sony in front of his fans. Where is one single vid of an apology or that their relationship was any better?

That is true michael did speak of the sony conspiracy and you can find these video on youtube,I just hope some fans have saved these video on there computer before they dissaper like some other have about michael mentioning 15 shows to fans I herd.

 

[ivy]

^ I'm just repeating what Michael warned us about when he was here, that's all.

you know Michael also said in a sworn testimony in 2007 that Randy teamed up with Don Stabler to cheat him out of his catalog.

why not bring that up as well?

it might be hypocritical to forget/forgive about the people in sony/estate and continue be angry to Randy but it's equally hypocritical to be against sony/estate based on Michael's statements and ignore what Michael said about Randy and financial deals/his catalog.

Michael Jackson is accusing his brother Randy of shady financial dealings. Jackson claims during his battle against child molestation charges back in 2005, he was nearly double-crossed out of his fortune. He also claims that the wise advice of the Reverend Jesse Jackson and billionaire Ron Burkle kept him from being totally swindled by those closest to him.

Michael Jackson names a man close to his brother Randy Jackson as the lead culprit, in disposition transcripts obtained by the New York Daily News.

The Gloved One states that Randy brought in Don Stabler, who pressured him to sign off on a multi-million dollar financing deal. Stabler, according to Jackson was persistent.

But during breaks in the trial, Jackson says he was being pressured to sign off on a multimillion-dollar financing deal by Don Stabler, an associate brought in by brother Randy, his go-to guy on financial matters during much of his career.

Stabler wasn't happy, Jackson said. The next time Jackson saw Stabler "he wanted to take my head off." And his brother Randy wasn't too happy, either. Randy later claimed that Jackson and his staff had run up a $700,000 bill on his American Express card during the trial, which Jackson said he would repay. It wasn't the first time that Stabler teamed with Randy in trying to get him to sign off on a deal, Jackson claimed. At a meeting in a bungalow at the Neverland ranch, Jackson said he had his mother at his side when he fought off another proposal. "And I vehemently told them, 'No, I am not signing this,'" Jackson recalled. "And I just remember how angry, the intensity of the anger in the room. And so they marched out."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/284978/legal_troubles_continue_for_michael.html

During the seven hours of transcripts obtained by the Daily News, the King of Pop blames several people for his financial shortcomings, including his younger brother Randy, who has served as his informal counsel on various money matters, reports the newspaper.

Michael testified that he was pressured to sign off on a multimillion-dollar financing deal during breaks in his child molestation trial. The man pushing the deal was Don Stabler, an associate brought in by Randy whom Michael said left a great first impression.

"He reminded me of people that live in mid-America like Indiana,"
Jackson testified.

But Jackson soon became uncomfortable with Stabler and eventually sought financial advice from billionaire Ron Burkle, a friend of former President Bill Clinton. Burkle, in turn, brought in Jesse Jackson to help with the consultation.

Burkle was calling him on the cell phone during bathroom breaks, warning him not to sign anything, Michael said during testimony. He said Burkle’s sudden presence in the picture angered Stabler.

"[Stabler] said, 'What's the problem? You're not down, you're with the Jews now. You're not down with blacks anymore,'" Jackson testified. "It was unkind. It was mean. It was mean-spirited. It was nasty. Simply because he couldn't get me to sign something that he wanted me to sign.”

At one point during the trial, Michael said Stabler sent a message through one of the singer’s Nation of Islam security guards that questioned his blackness.

The next time Jackson saw Stabler "he wanted to take my head off," the singer testified. He said Randy was highly upset as well.

Jackson claims that Stabler and Randy used a similar tag-team tactic in another instance where they tried to get his signature on a deal. At Neverland ranch, Jackson said his mother was present when he fought off another one of their proposals.

"And I vehemently told them, 'No, I am not signing this,'" Jackson recalled. "And I just remember how angry, the intensity of the anger in the room. And so they marched out."

 

[twinklEE]

you know Michael also said in a sworn testimony in 2007 that Randy teamed up with Don Stabler to cheat him out of his catalog.

why not bring that up as well?

it might be hypocritical to forget/forgive about the people in sony/estate and continue be angry to Randy but it's equally hypocritical to be against sony/estate based on Michael's statements and ignore what Michael said about Randy and financial deals/his catalog.





http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/284978/legal_troubles_continue_for_michael.html

Don't bother

 

[blueocean]

you know Michael also said in a sworn testimony in 2007 that Randy teamed up with Don Stabler to cheat him out of his catalog.

why not bring that up as well?

it might be hypocritical to forget/forgive about the people in sony/estate and continue be angry to Randy but it's equally hypocritical to be against sony/estate based on Michael's statements and ignore what Michael said about Randy and financial deals/his catalog.





http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/284978/legal_troubles_continue_for_michael.html

And you are posting something someboby said michael said but you did not hear it straigjt from michael or raymond back then there was never a hearing with michael accusing randy of whats in that aritcle and instead michael put out a statement thru raymone bain saying these were all lie's about his brother randy he never stole from him, the lawyer ended up being shady that was not randy I trust what michael said not what you are posting. that was a false rumor proven by michael thru his statement to be false. so it's your choice to believe that article over michael my choice I believe michael.

 

[StaceyMJ]

Conspiracy discussion needs to stay in the correct forum. Thread cleaned, thanks.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

I just read Jackson Family Values.

I feel sick.

 

[chanel05]

who's standing right beside Michael on one of the most painful and stressful days of his life....

HIS FAMILY. n if they didnt care for each other they didnt have to show up and support him. at the end of the day they are family and they loved each other despite all the problems.

 

[chanel05]

I just read Jackson Family Values.

I feel sick.

yea that book is a mess, but i dnt believe 100% of what she said but i believe most is true. i also found her condensending.