Update #275 - AllGood appeals dismissal / AllGood Entertainment lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

Re: $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ?????

$300,000,000 !????????????! Wait while I throw up.

What has this got to do with Michael, I thought he didn't sign anything??.. this is down to FRANK DILEO!! Don't get it twisted.

Why is AGE suing MJJ Productions and not only Dileo Entertainment?

Because if Dileo said he was MJ's manager when he wasn't, he should be the only one responsible for this alleged breach of contract.

This is all way beyond ridiculous.



AGE cannot be taken seriously when it relies on "industry insiders".
 
Re: $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ?????

Well, he released a statement on October 30th...stating he would not be part of any show with the brothers. So, we are listening to him.

As for what he told a paparazzi...who cares? He might have understood the question...We will never know why or what he said yes to.

And I think you said it happened after a visit to Klein and we know he had been shooting MJ up with a few things for weeks / months before he died.

Either way, an official statement has a lot more weight than a paparazzi footage in this instance.

Michael herd the paparazzi ask that question and michael answer was yes, the letter that you are referring to and take it as michael words must have been dr thome words who was trying to controll everything michael was doing or going to do, instead I believe michael words that came straight from michael mouth when he told the paparazzi YES. about performing with his brothers.
 
Re: $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ?????

I think some folks need to take NO for an answer and move on. Whether it be Joe Jackson or the man in the moon, when you ask a question and the answer is no, folks need to move on.

I can understand Joe Jackson wanting to see his son's on stage once again, but when Michael said he was not interested, Joe should have moved on. In my opinion, he should have just got the OTHER 4 members (and maybe Randy) ready to hit the road. It still would have been a family reunion, with just one member missing.

Joe did leave it alone, He just wanted to see his boys he loved together on stage that's all.
 
Re: $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ?????

Regardless of whether they have a valid claim or not, they are being extremely greedy IMO.

Let's not forget they also want some of the catalogue. They're asking for everything in hopes of getting anyting. I hope they get NOTHING! The vultures.
 
Re: $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ?????

Joe is the one behind all this. But some fans are in denial...
 
Re: $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ?????

Joe is the one behind all this. But some fans are in denial...

Its obvious your feelings about Joe and Michael's family from most of your 9 posts. Fact is, as most people in this thread realise, as as Frank said himself, it was Frank DiLeo who agreed to this. Its his mess, its pretty clear:

detailed post from TSCM about the contract and lawsuit posted on May 11, 2009

A dispute has arisen between New Jersey based entertainment firm, AllGood Entertainment, Inc. ("AGE"), and Frank Dileoin conjunction with AEG regarding Michael Jackson's planned summer concerts at London's O2. MJJR.net has reviewed several comprehensive documents and proposals from the firm regarding this matter and will now explain the circumstances as they stand.

The plan of AllGood Entertainment was to host a "one-time event" tentatively titled "The Jackson Family Reunion: A Concert for the World" in the summer of 2009. The concert would star Michael and Janet Jackson while also including his siblings: LaToya, Rebbie, and all of his brothers. Billed as "The Most Anticipated Concert Event in Music History" the concert was anticipated to gross more than $93 million through a variety of means including ticket sales (at $135 each), sponsoring, Pay-Per-View access, DVD and CD sales, merchandising, digital downloads, broadcasting, and licensing. Using such a figure as a selling point, the company sought out a sponsorship to help fund the endeavor which included around $30 million of expenses.

The concert was anticipated to be held in one of several stadiums--either in New Orleans, San Diego, New Jersey, or Atlanta. The event would be day long and recorded professionally for Pay-Per-View and DVD releases with a projected first-showing audience of 100 million. The Pay-Per-View would fetch and estimated 3 to 7 million purchasers at $30 each, and there would be a worldwide market campaign building up to the event.

In addition to the proposal (which was drafted in attempts of locating a sponsor to fund the project), MJJR.net has reviewed several contractual documents between AllGood Entertainment and Frank Dileo. On November 26, 2008, a four page confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement was signed with regards to the reunion concert; the document is signed by roughly half a dozen parties including Frank Dileo. The term of the agreement was for 18 months following November 2008. The other signed agreement, drafted on November 21, 2008 and signed on November 25, 2008, was again four pages and signed by Frank Dileo and affiliated parties of AllGood Entertainment. This agreement called for at least a 90 minute performance by Michael Jackson and 150 minute performance overall by all parties of the Jackson family. The agreement also called for a press conference in which all Jackson family members were present to announce the concert. The Jackson family members would receive $24 million in profit for their involvement with the remaining money being distributed to the affiliated parties.

It should be noted that nowhere in any contract does the signature or authorization of ANY Jackson family member exist
, it appears these contracts and proposals were drafted explicitly by Frank Dileo and AllGood Entertainment with no signed confirmation by any of the Jackson family members; it is unclear to what degree the Jackson family members are even aware of the whole situation.

Back on March 27, 2009, AllGood Entertainment sent a cease and desist letter via e-mail to Randy Phillips of AEG, which MJJR.net has also reviewed. This was in regards to an article that appeared online questioning who Michael Jackson's spokesperson really was, which stated: "A spokesman for Dileo told CelebrityAccess that they would release a statement along with AEG to address Rowe's claims next week and suggested that legal action may be in the offing." The letter threatened AEG with legal action if Frank Dileo continued any alleged partnership with AEG during the period of time he was meant to be with AllGood Entertainment.

On April 11, 2009 Randy Phillips responded to the cease and desist notice in stating that "Mr. Dileo and does not involve AEG Live in any manner whatsoever," and advised AllGood Entertainment that any legal issues were between that company and Frank Dileo and it has no involvement with AEG or their Jackson-related endeavors what-so-ever. In fact, this claim was reiterated in two separate e-mails from Mr. Phillips, and it has been stated that he worked directly with Michael Jackson and Dr. Tohme Tohme to negotiate the AEG contracts and procedures. In rebuttal of these claims, AllGood Entertainment sent a second notice again citing the CelebrityAccess article published on the Internet which referenced Frank Dileo as acting on behalf of Michael Jackson and AEG. However, the notice by AllGood Entertainment also seems to erroneously quote the published article using quotes which do not actually appear in the article itself. As a final follow-up, AllGood Entertainment wrote: "While Frank Dileo's actions were reprehensible, AEG's very public support of Dileo and continued association with him despite our efforts to Cease and Desist them, is tantamount to anti-trust and anti-competitive practices."

In summary, two contracts and agreements were signed by December 1, 2008 by Frank Dileo and parties relating to Dileo's agency and AllGood Entertainment's agency. None of these contracts bare any signature of the Jacksons, nor has there been any confirmation that the Jackson siblings are aware of these concert-related plans. Even within the proposal that detailed at length the expenses, profits, and plans of each artist, there are no direct quotes from any of the Jacksons themselves to bring credence to the proposal. After reviewing many documents and communications regarding this conflict, MJJR.net does not believe that the dispute between Frank Dileo and AllGood Entertainment will have any negative impact on AEG and the O2 concerts.

With no signatures or authorization by Michael Jackson within the contracts between Frank Dileo and AllGood Entertainment, and seemingly just one online Web site referencing that Frank Dileo had any involvement with AEG, there does not appear to be much legal cause for concern over the O2 concerts. Again, the cease and desist letter did not occur until the night that CelebrityAccess published an article proclaiming that Frank Dileo and AEG would release a statement the following week with regards to Leonard Rowe's questionable involvement. No such statement was ever released, Randy Phillips insisted that he only worked through Michael Jackson and Dr. Tohme Tohme in the matter, and the article in question only cites a "spokesperson of Frank Dileo" as the source and does not include any direct quotes from Frank Dileo himself.

Finally, on October 30, 2008 (one month before any such contracts, proposals, or agreements were drafted and signed), Michael Jackson issued the following statement: "My brothers and sisters have my full love and support, and we’ve certainly shared many great experiences, but at this time I have no plans to record or tour with them. I am now in the studio developing new and exciting projects that I look forward to sharing with my fans in concert soon." Stay tuned...

Source: MJJR.net
Q: Did Mr. Frank DiLeo at any time, represent himself as Michael Jackson's signatory agent/manager? Were you aware of Dr. Tohme R. Tohme being Michael's business manager?
The Dileo/Jackson contract speaks for itself; Frank and Mark both represented that he [Frank] had several phone conversations with MJ and that he was supportive of our event. Frank obviously executed an agreement that is binding upon Michael, Janet and the brothers. Dr. Tohme was always positioned as the spokesperson or business manager representing the financial interests of Colony Capital.

Q: On Nov 1st, 2008, Michael Jackson via his manager Dr. Tohme R. Tohme released the following statement: “My brothers and sisters have my full love and support, and we’ve certainly shared many great experiences. But at this time I have no plans to record or tour with them. I am now in the studio developing new and exciting projects that I look forward to sharing with my fans in concert soon.” Did Frank DiLeo ever notify you of this statement?
No. The statement, however, was in response to a comment made by Jermaine while in Austrailia. We actually did raise the issue of Jermaine’s “Family Tour” comment with Dileo and he dismissed it as “Jermaine’s attempt at keeping the press focused on him.” The Tohme comment did not effect our proposal since we were contemplating a tour.


Q: Did All Good Entertainment retain Frank DiLeo for a fee of two million dollars to secure Michael Jackson and his family for the reunion concert?
Mr. Dileo would have received a total of $550,000 plus a commission.

Q: Were you aware that AEG were in negotiations with Michael Jackson and Dr. Tohme in Nov, 2008, the same time when All Good Entertainment was in negotiations with Frank DiLeo?
We knew of several failed attempts by AEG to get MJ to commit to a “Prince” like deal at the O2; we had no knowledge of any ongoing negotiations until January 7, 2009.

Q: Are you planning on filing a lawsuit in federal court against Frank DiLeo?
Very unfortunately yes – a lawsuit is now imminent and will be filed in Federal Court. I have made every possible effort try to secure our concert for next year, but Frank Dileo has poisoned Michael on the idea and told me that “it’s not going to happen.”
 
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Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

What does it mean to "accept service?" Does this mean that Frank has to own up to his role in the AGE case?
 
Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

I didnt even know there was a court hearing yesterday about this.
 
Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

It just means that he/his lawyer must accept the notice that he's being sued by AGE.

Nothing more.
 
Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

It just means that he/his lawyer must accept the notice that he's being sued by AGE.

Nothing more.

Hmm Id like to see this. So AGE are suing MJ, AEG & Frank Dileo?
 
Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

I don't think the case has started.

The thing is when you sue someone you send/give them a notice so that they can respond to your claims, in other words defend themselves against the claims.

So probably they weren't able to deliver the notice to Frank or his lawyer/Frank was rejecting to accept the document. The judge just says that he needs to acknowledge the fact that AGE is suing him. If his lawyer continues to reject it then the judge will most probably determine that AGE showed acceptable effort to give the notice and move on with the lawsuit process.
 
Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

I don't think the case has started.

The thing is when you sue someone you send/give them a notice so that they can respond to your claims, in other words defend themselves against the claims.

So probably they weren't able to deliver the notice to Frank or his lawyer/Frank was rejecting to accept the document. The judge just says that he needs to acknowledge the fact that AGE is suing him. If his lawyer continues to reject it then the judge will most probably determine that AGE showed acceptable effort to give the notice and move on with the lawsuit process.

I wonder if Frank learnt this from Michael or vice versa cuz didnt Michael not get Bains lawsuit as nobody would allow Michael to be served?
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

"I owe a debt of gratitude to Craig Rivera for his great job editing the Jackson segment - I"m happy with the tone and direction that he took --- 9:10 PM Aug 16th, 2009 via web"

Interesting. He'd probably sue the guy in 3 BILLION dollars if the tone and direction had not been good.
 
Re: AGE Comments On Frank Dileo

I wonder if Frank learnt this from Michael or vice versa cuz didnt Michael not get Bains lawsuit as nobody would allow Michael to be served?

It's a trick to delay. Once you get the notice you have a certain time to file your response and the process starts. The longer you can avoid to be served the longer the whole process will be delayed.
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

wasn't this thrown out?
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

wasn't this thrown out?

They rejected the creditor's claim. Lawsuit and creditor claims are two different things.
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

well forgive me for making a mistake.
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

No problem. I realize all these claims, lawsuits, injunctions etc can become quite confusing.
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

hell its all confusing. but to sue him for 3 bil. is completely stupid.
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

They rejected the creditor's claim. Lawsuit and creditor claims are two different things.

how are they different, when it's the same amount of money?
 
Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

how are they different, when it's the same amount of money?

creditor's claim is basically a form (not a lawsuit) that says "this person owe me this much money at his time of death". (ps: it doesn't even have to be about money: remember Klein's green jacket. it basically said "this person has my stuff")

for example : a staff member saying that they did not get their last paycheck for let's say $10,000.

the representatives can take 3 actions
- accept the claim - they write a check for $10,000 and give it to the staff member
- accept it partially - such as saying that the number is overstated and offer to pay a lower amount let's say $8,000 in example
- reject the claim - give a notice saying that they will not be paying any amount.

All of these happen outside the court, with no judges / trial / jurors involved. And most parties will go with creditor claims as it doesn't involve a trial and the decision has to be determined in a certain time period - in other words it's cheaper, less messier and more quicker than a trial.

[ This is currently what happened with Allgood's $300M claim and Bain's $44M claim. Both of them filed creditor claims saying that Michael owe them these amounts, Estate replied by saying they will not be paying these amounts - in other words they rejected the claims. That's where we are now. ]

Now when the claim is rejected (either fully or partially) these people can take the representatives/ estate to court arguing that they have valid grounds / evidence etc to support that this money they are requesting should be paid to them. Then it is a lawsuit. Notices given, other side responds, a judge decides whether there's sufficient evidence to go the trial, then it goes to trial and finally a jury decides who's right or wrong, whether this people should be paid or not, or how much money should be paid.

Hope this makes it clear.

[Note : Both Allgood and Bain had filed for lawsuits before Michael's death. After he died they submitted a creditor's claim as like I said before it's quicker, less costly etc. The estate rejected these claims but the lawsuits are active and still on going. Yes they are for the same thing, same amounts but technically they are two different things.]
 
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Re: AllGood Entertainment files $300,000,000 Lawsuit Against MJ / Dileo/ AEG

I remember posting this but am confused because only MJ is being sued for $300M. How much is Dileo & AEG being sued for?

Hard to say as we don't have the documents for the $300M lawsuit (I looked to the documents you posted and they are actually for the initial lawsuit filed before Michael's death).

The initial lawsuit when the press reported that MJ was sued for $40M actually shows a total amount of $120M requested (see below). So will that mean equal amounts between the defendants? (Honestly I'm not sure) Do we have the legal documents for the latest $300M lawsuit somewhere? Do they ask for $300M in total or from MJ only?

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The initial lawsuit requested amount for damages
- $20M for breach of agreement by Dileo and Jackson
- $20M for false promises by Dileo and Jackson
- $20M for fraud $20M, and extra punitive damages of $20
- $20 M for AEG for deliberately inducing MJ to breach contractand extra punitive damages of $20
 
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