You have to take into account the amount of unreleased songs that were leaked/released while he was alive as well, and I’m also including Jackson 5 songs. Thats probably over a 100 songs combined.
The rap on BoW was written by Bill Bottrell.
Ah sorry, i just found this information too, my mistake than it are 6 to 14 songs we dont know even the name
add Bubbles, Garbage, Verdict and Homeless Bound.
We don't need many more Michael/Xscape type records but we definitely need successors to The Ultimate Collection and Anniversary Edition Album Rereleases.
If I’m not mistaken, it isn’t confirmed that “Bubbles” is a Loren tune.
I agree, the demo has so much potential to be something great. I can see why Bruce Swedien liked it.
While this may be true, it’s also important to point out that the song is not even titled “Ghost”, but “Ghosts”.
Except he did not. ‘Messin Round’ and “MJ & Madonna Duet” are both not spelled out.
Bubbles is a Loren tune - it contains many of the drum/synth presets that he uses in other songs.
Besides "Bubbles" and "Men In Black", have you heard any other Bryan Loren songs?
Imo, this was one of the highlights of Bad25. It has such a groove and vibe. I really hope that there is a more completed version of this song in the vault. It has massive potential.
Agree. One of my most wanted things is an anthology package of 2002-2009 tracks. It would be a great release for fans, all they would have to do is mix the songs, master it and throw it on streaming services, super easy. It doesn’t need to be heavily promoted, just put out for us.
that'd make no sense from a business standpoint, Remixes & the original versions on the deluxe editions is the most realistic scenario.
From a business standpoint, they are making no money by keeping them in the vault. If they put it out as I said, they would at least be making royalties from streaming, YouTube etc. btw I’m specifically thinking of the tracks which could not be used for any other project, like Boy No, Rocker, Dark Lady, Just Remember. They don’t fit on a project that the estate wants to put out.
The long spoken of duets album is still an option. And giving tracks away ala Don't Matter To Me.
That’s fair, that would be a good option. As long as we get originals on a deluxe.
Agree with all of this. Plus, as I've said before, there's no reason why MJE can't do a few small 'side' projects like this which absolutely won't make them money but which pay attention to Michael's legacy more from an artistic point of view. Michael himself wouldn't want unfinished material released but I wonder if he truly understood just how fascinating he was / still is to his audience? Some people would be critical of this type of release but I bet there would be as many (if not more) people who would be really interested in this stuff and wouldn't treat it as another opportunity to pick holes in Michael but, rather, a chance to understand better what he was doing at a certain point in his life / career.
It’s crazy to me how obsessed we (and I) still are to hear his unfinished craft. It’s debated daily, false snippets are leaked, distorted snippets are leaked and we all go crazy over them anyway. I dare to claim it is the only thing that keeps this forum alive lol
After all it's our favourite artist's craft in its purest form. "The Genesis" of the idea he had. The start of a potential masterpiece that never was. That's what keep us obsessed with those little "stupid" demos.
To be fair to us both, reading into MJ’s song titles is a losing battle. Why are “Tabloid Junkie,” “Superfly Sister,” and “Earth Song” titled as such when those phrases are never spoken/sung? Why aren’t the songs titled “Ghost,” “She’s Driving Me Wild,” or “They Don’t Really Care About Us,” since those are the actual lyrics? There wasn’t always consistency in these situations.
The same question could be posed regarding “Ghost of Another Lover”—While it was worked on, has anyone ever confirmed that it was in serious consideration?
Outsourcing isn’t uncommon. MJ did it during these very sessions when Teddy Riley reworked a handful of early demos. Plus, if we’re being pedantic here, we haven’t yet gotten confirmation as to whether or not this is an MJ solo composition.
“Messin’ ‘Round” is one of at least three working titles for that song. “MJ & Madonna Duet” (of course referring to “In the Closet”) likely didn't have a title at the time, as the two were still deliberating what direction the song would take. There’s only one (publicly available) note on which that song title is written, and it’s spelled out fully.
It's really the only reason why I come to post here.
Just think, if Michael were still alive, we wouldn't have heard any of this material.
