Yeah and maybe that doctor wouldn't leave the room either and actually be train in given that type of drug. :smilerolleyes:
Thank you, Ramona!
Yeah, that is the part that was wrong for SURE. No matter what MJ did or did not do, that part is unforgivable. Clearly negligence and I am not up on criminal laws but as far as I can tell, it sure isn't the way we are taught in school.
And again, THIS is what Murray will not be able to get away from regardless of what his defense is or what kind of character assassination or judgments anyone wants to put up against MJ. No one, whether they be healthy, sick, addicted, or clean, deserves to have their doctor walk out of the room with propofol dripping into their veins. That's the prosecution's case right there, imo. They can talk about drugs and addictions and CPR and whether Murray was giving in to a demanding patient all they want. The bottom line is that even if he DID succumb to a demand, he THEN turned his back on his patient and abandoned his responsibility.
The prosecution should open with this issue...the issue of abandonment and neglect and they should end with that. THIS should be the focus of their entire case. It's the one thing Murray can't manipulate, run away from or have a solid excuse for. NOTHING he can say would justify him leaving that room with Michael in such a vulnerable position. No medical professional is going to back Murray up on that. EVER!
Now that I think about it, and in keeping with the topic of this thread, what the family or TINI says about MJ's drug use isn't that detrimental, imo. It's fodder for media consumption and whatever, but when it comes down to a court of law, there are standards. For one thing, all witnesses will be grilled about what they actually saw and know for a fact and if they don't have solid answers and factual accounts, their testimony is pretty much useless. The prosecution would be wise to stay away from that whole angle, imo, unless they feel the need to explain WHY propofol is an issue here. But even that can be up for debate since Michael's issues with insomnia date as far back as the 80's...before his scalp was burned and he began taking narcotics. But after casually establishing a possibly WHY, the bulk of their focus should be on what went wrong on June 25th that caused him to die.
My suggestion: Just put one expert up after the other...ask them if they would ever recommend leaving a patient alone while that person is under propofol. They will ALL say "NO". Next question would be WHY it would be unwise to do so and if a patient stopped breathing and no one is around to assist what would happen? We all know what that answer would be. Murray's defense wouldn't be able to do anything except stand there and say, "We have no questions, your honor."
Prosecution: Next expert!
Same questions. After doing this over and over, it becomes clear. There is NO defense against this. And that's regardless of Michael's medical history or past dependencies on drugs, interventions, whether he was overworked or whatever. What happened in his bedroom on June 25th is what's key. And on that day, his doctor walked out of the room, the one person who SHOULD have been able to save him WHEN he stopped breathing.
Sure, but he would have searched further until he found another doctor and that is where MJ is responsible IMHO for his own life. Many of the fans can't understand or don't want to acknowledge that.
Well, perhaps Murray should have done that. And today we would either a) STILL have Michael with us under the watch of a more competent doctor (saying that doesn't mean I condone the use of propofol in this way).... or b) the results would be the same BUT instead of Murray we'd be itching about the other doctor. The point is, WHICHEVER doctor took the risk and screwed up, they would deserve to pay for their irresponsible actions.
Are you SERIOUS with these statements?? :doh: The DOCTOR is the one who is the PROFESSIONAL and is the one who is responsible for the welfare of their patient. They are NOT supposed to dole out drugs to people simply because those people want the drugs! If the drugs are addictive, then that so-called "professional" (PROPER use of quotation marks I might add,) is doing nothing more than creating an addict. Do most doctors closely monitor their patients for addiction? Doubt it.
Here again, it is up to the DOCTOR to act professionally and give the patient what they NEED rather than what they WANT. You're acting like doctors can only react to patients like nervous parents would react to spoiled, screaming children. :smilerolleyes: That is NOT what professional doctors get paid to do!
Thank you....
So your position is that it is OKAY for a doctor to be intimidated into dispensing narcotics like a drug dealer? :smilerolleyes:
Or is it that they figure the patient is going to get the drugs *somewhere*, so it might as well be THEIR office? :doh:
If this is what passes for "professional" ethics these days, then I can see why there are so many addicts out there.
I seriously can't believe a "professional" would defend such actions!
and Thank you! There's really No excuse. No matter how anyone wants to slice this. I have a feeling even the prosecution would LOVE to somehow beat Michael up in some way while going after Murray. Two birds over one case? But again, when one realizes the reason Michael Jackson died was becuz NO ONE was around when he stopped breathing, that's all that may matter...whether he was clean, an addict, a recovering addict, healthy addict...whatever ppl want to call it. Th ONE crucial detail WHY Michael isn't here is becuz a doctor left the room...which is outright neglect and disregard for human life
to me. Murray was supposed to be there. Risky behavior, unethical, irresponsible, or whatever, all he had to do was BE THERE! It would have given Michael at least a starting chance at survival.
All the extraneous issues, I say save it for the civil suits where there's a different standard of proof or for tell-all books where speculation and various opinion can run amok.
