Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

[Ape]

Thank you Ashtanga. I don't live in a film metropolis. Not even close, so it's difficult to get to be in anything other than community theatre. I am thinking of starting a film group though. Nothing wonderful but it would be something to satisfy the creative craving.

 

[Ingelief]

nice thread allformj! But i read your first post and i found it lovely and in the same time i dont agree with some of it. you are my life i still believe is about his children, and some songs your describing as that he is in love in 2002 are written much earlyer i thought so although its amazing how you see and describe things i dont feel that i agree
But you wrote it in 2008. Is now after his death things differently? I have to say i did not read all the 753 pages.
Is there more info on who he dated then?

i hope he found love in his life in the last years, because he was so lonely and i read somewhere he wanted so badly a good relationship and that finding love for him was so difficult because of his fame.. i felt so sad reading that.. Everyone in life wants a life partner is more easyer to get trough life when you can share it

I found the new songs more strongly then a love song. But hold my hand is amazing and is a perfect song for michael i believe.. it reminded me of the video of cry with all the people holding hands

Alot of songs can be about love or about his fans.. its difficult for most of us as outsiders to know the whole truth, we can mostly only analyse.

i read some post from MS fairy, but i dont understand it (page 743). very vaque and not anwering anything only sugesting
who are you to michael and why say stuff like cant tell you but hint anyway??

If michael dated in 2002 did the relationship surfived the trial?? i dont remember reading of a woman in his live after the trail?

 

[Ingelief]

[/QUOTE]

Wow amazing photos!

 

[Ingelief]

I heard Michael enjoyed reading this thread.

where did you hear that??????

 

[kindofdisco]

IM (50 msgs):May 30,2009 1:13 pm;The Journal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (c) 1993 - 2011

(Proceeds will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities...All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "Elderly") (c) 1995 -2011

Please Note: Since the internet identity and or subjected to but not limited to the recipient author of this journal entry is no longer with us; it is a moot point to disregard...

IM (50 msgs) Sat, May 30, 2009 1:13 pm.
sdeidjs: Hi
sdeidjs: hows that
f4evasongbird: there u are
sdeidjs: Smiles
f4evasongbird: just a second...
sdeidjs: ok
f4evasongbird: ok here I am
sdeidjs: How is everything going
f4evasongbird: good, taking a little BREAK
sdeidjs: Working huh
sdeidjs: I thought all that stuff
sdeidjs: I was telling you
sdeidjs: was freaking you out
sdeidjs: Lot to take
f4evasongbird: no not freaking me out
sdeidjs: No
sdeidjs: Surprised that I saved all that
sdeidjs: I think
sdeidjs: that many had a hard on for you
f4evasongbird: surprised? Knowing you? Nah
sdeidjs: Why is that?
sdeidjs: Mmmm
sdeidjs: You been
sdeidjs: watching me for a while then
f4evasongbird: I'm not so sure I'm surprised at anything you do.
sdeidjs: Awwe
sdeidjs: that’s sweet
f4evasongbird: I read through ALL those emails you sent over the past few days
sdeidjs: Yes
f4evasongbird: and to be honest there are a lot of details I don't really remember all that well.
sdeidjs: I can understand that
sdeidjs: all that you went through
f4evasongbird: I hoped you would understand
sdeidjs: About what?
sdeidjs: What you went through
f4evasongbird: about not remembering details
sdeidjs: I refused to EVER believe what people said about you
sdeidjs: My goodness gracious
sdeidjs: We almost lost you
sdeidjs: I had to try and STOP
sdeidjs: it
sdeidjs: I just HAD to help
sdeidjs: I didn't care about anything they said
f4evasongbird: you have a beautiful heart
sdeidjs: Remember
sdeidjs: I felt all your pain and heartache
sdeidjs: your cry for help
sdeidjs: heard your prayers

Please Note: Since the internet identity and or subjected to but not limited to the recipient author of this journal entry is no longer with us; it is a “moot” point to disregard...(c) 1993 - 2011

Peace, Love, Happiness

God Bless :angel:

:rollingpeace: :rollingpeace:

Susie, these posts disturb me. There are a few people online - both before and after MJ's death - that were impersonating him and starting friendships with various females fans. Unless you actually knew MJ face to face, I really don't think this was him. I know because I was taken in by a similar person, who typed exactly like this "Michael" you were speaking with. Just please be careful, and know that not everybody out there is who they say they are.

If you did in fact know MJ in real life, completely disregard this. Just looking out for the safety of fellow female fans.

 

[Ashtanga]

Thank you Ashtanga.

I don't live in a film metropolis. Not even close, so it's difficult to get to be in anything other than community theatre. I am thinking of starting a film group though. Nothing wonderful but it would be something to satisfy the creative craving.

Great! Film group is cool, but maybe appear for you some new opportunity for the theater or maybe a new movie. Life is full of surprises! :wild: I wish good luck to you!

I heard Michael enjoyed reading this thread.

where did you hear that??????

:shifty:

 

[Ingelief]

at Sdeidjs


what is this????
What are you saying the posts are you with michael chatting????!!

 

[kindofdisco]

^ I think that's what is going on, from what I can gather from the last few pages. I'm just concerned that somebody might have been duping her online, its happened before on various forums, people impersonating MJ. But if she did actually know MJ face to face, then it's a privacy concern then. I don't think it's okay to share personal things like that.

 

[Sdeidjs]

With all do respect, thank so much for ALL your kindness, and concern. However, I have been a great admirer/advocate of Mr.Michael Jackson, Family, Admirers, Fans since I was 7 years old, and it just so happens I turned 49 on May 12, 2011.

To make a very long story short, should you feel the need to review my credentials check out profile (www.facebook.com Susie Deeds )

I find it intriguing that some in society think that Mr.Michael Jackson did not ever go to his business MJJ Productions, utilize the computer, internet, visit Fan websites, eat, sleep, go to the bathroom or to be truly a "normal human being" for that matter ect. ect..

One (s) would think that after "ALL" this time, One would have experienced many of the wisdoms, and ugliness of the world..!

Therefore, I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my good standing, good name, integrity, trust, and honor..!~

The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon Charities. All the "CHILDREN" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The Elderly) (c) 1993 -2011

Happiness, Peace, L.O.V.E

God Bless Always :angel:

:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:

 

[Ashtanga]

:girl_whistle:

​

 

[8701girl]

Hi everyone. This thread hasn't seemed to have much life lately. And I'm not going to be a bundle of sunshine either.

My husband had a stroke last weekend and is still in the hospital. He is not able to walk probably, for his right side was affected by the stroke and he falls over to the his right side. Even with a walker he falls over to the right after a few steps. So once he's home, maybe tomorrow, he will need to continue with physical therapy for some time. He was in ICU for several days for his blood sugars were scary high as well as his blood pressure, and there has been worry that he will have a blood clot...and obviously...another stroke. So he has been getting strong blood thinners and insulin intraveniously. Fun. And his finger is pricked ever four hours. Constant interruptions when in the hospital...very little true rest.

This is all happening during my son's finals week, and he had a ten page research paper due, and the stress is just high. Also the other morning our water heater began to prefusely leak and I had to take care of that on my own, for I didn't want to calll my husband and ask him for help in case it caused him to feel stress...which he obviously doesn't need. I did make the necessary decisons on my own...purchased a new water heater through good ol' home Depot, and we did get water in the house once again. This is why I admire single moms so...they deal with these things all on their own time after time. They so have my respect. But all is good now...I've been leaning on the Lord and He has been my help, of course.

Can't wait to hear more of the Gibb/MJ song and to evaluate those lyrics! We can probably find a way to make that song work in here, right girls?

Take care all!

Im so sorry to hear your husband is not well we all will be praying for him

 

[Ashtanga]

we all will be praying for him

Sure! :angel:

 

[kindofdisco]

With all do respect, thank so much for ALL your kindness, and concern. However, I have been a great admirer/advocate of Mr.Michael Jackson, Family, Admirers, Fans since I was 7 years old, and it just so happens I turned 49 on May 12, 2011.

To make a very long story short, should you feel the need to review my credentials check out profile (www.facebook.com Susie Deeds )

I find it intriguing that some in society think that Mr.Michael Jackson did not ever go to his business MJJ Productions, utilize the computer, internet, visit Fan websites, eat, sleep, go to the bathroom or to be truly a "normal human being" for that matter ect. ect..

One (s) would think that after "ALL" this time, One would have experienced many of the wisdoms, and ugliness of the world..!

Therefore, I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my good standing, good name, integrity, trust, and honor..!~

The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon Charities. All the "CHILDREN" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The Elderly) (c) 1993 -2011

Happiness, Peace, L.O.V.E

God Bless Always :angel:

:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:

Susie I'm sure you're a good person, but you didn't actually answer anything, you kind of skipped over the point and blamed me for thinking that MJ apparently wasn't "normal" and did "normal" things. That's not really the way to go about it, I was asking out of curiosity - and your own safety - whether you knew MJ in real life, and if not then are you positive this was him "online"? Like I said, there are many people out there who find no harm in impersonating MJ on the internet and taking female fans for a wild spin, leaving them hurt in the end. I've been on the receiving end of that before, and it's not pretty. I'm asking out of your own safety, Susie. So I'd really like if you could answer the question and not beat around the bush.

 

[Sdeidjs]

Again, Thank You for "ALL" your kindness and concern.

With all do respect, I have answered your question (s). If that does not satify your curiosity, concern (s) than one (s) will have to wait and see what the future "truly" holds..!~

I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my good standing, good name, integrity, trust, and honor..!~

"The Journal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All the "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "Elderly" (c) 1993 -2011

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E

God Bless Always :angel:

:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:

 

[Sdeidjs]

^ I think that's what is going on, from what I can gather from the last few pages.

I'm just concerned that somebody might have been duping her online, its happened before on various forums, people impersonating MJ. But if she did actually know MJ face to face, then it's a privacy concern then. I don't think it's okay to share personal things like that

.

I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my "GOOD STANDING", "GOOD NAME", "INTEGRITY", "TRUST", and "HONOR"..!~

"The Journal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All the "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "Elderly" (c) 1993 -2011

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E

God Bless Always :angel:

:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:

 

[kindofdisco]

No....you didn't answer anything. This is not an answer:

I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my "GOOD STANDING", "GOOD NAME", "INTEGRITY", "TRUST", and "HONOR"..!~

That's using your "good name", your "integrity" and your "good standing" to dodge a question. It's becoming pretty obvious to me that you only knew this "Michael" online, and I don't think it was actually him. I think you were taken for a bit of a ride, and you have my deepest sympathies, because I know what its like to be tricked. But you need to stop posting these conversations.

 

[Lisha]

But you need to stop posting these conversations.

And this is so the deception will not spread. Which is a concern.

Also, I can think of no defense for someone to post in this thread any conversations they've had with Michael anyway, real or not. Can anyone?


But I am not sure Susie is at a place where she will be willing to stop. Do not be frustrated or feel despair if she does not heed your advice. I think the situation might be deeper than we can understand by what is presented here.


:flowers: Thank you to many of you who have offered up prayers on our family's behalf. The prayer coverage has made a difference. He has finally been transferred from the hospital to a special program at another hospital, where he can be closely monitored while he is receiving physical therapy to learn to walk again, and do other things that I suppose we all take for granted, like putting on our clothes.

They are still concerned about his blood clotting and they are having trouble managing his blood sugar and his blood pressure. So little by little. They think maybe by Thursday of next week he might be ready to be an outpatient. That's pretty good, considering.

Thanks again so much for caring. :hug:

 

[Ashtanga]

:fear:​

Well.......

:flowers: Thank you to many of you who have offered up prayers on our family's behalf. The prayer coverage has made a difference. He has finally been transferred from the hospital to a special program at another hospital, where he can be closely monitored while he is receiving physical therapy to learn to walk again, and do other things that I suppose we all take for granted, like putting on our clothes.

They are still concerned about his blood clotting and they are having trouble managing his blood sugar and his blood pressure. So little by little. They think maybe by Thursday of next week he might be ready to be an outpatient. That's pretty good, considering.

Thanks again so much for caring. :hug:

:hug:



Do not worry, God is caring/looking of her husband/family. I hope your husband recovers quickly. Prayers for him :angel: and YOU... be strong.

 

[Sdeidjs]

"Do not judge a man/woman until "YOU" have walked two moons in THEIR moccasins..!"

Michael Jackson

The Journal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds will be donate to two "prearrange" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All the "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "Elderly" (c) 1993 -2011


Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E

God Bless Always :angel:

:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:

 

[Autumn II]

I haven't been able to be online much, but I do read here, when I can, and this is one of my favorite threads. The mystery and story-telling have been amazing. So, thanks.

Susie, I share the concerns of others about you. I do hope you are ok? You are clearly trying to convey "something," but it's not "something" that advances this thread, and it is troubling, and causes concern. You are a member of this board, and are respected as such. However, the posts that you make are so highly personal, that they cause concern. IF you actually knew Michael, and IF those are his words, then I do concur that you should not be posting them here, or anywhere. I do hope that you understand the concern? It's a matter of respect for him, ok? And if they are not? I hope that you achieve peace with that. I really do.

 

[Lisha]

Talk about posting a post that is going to end up absolutely pointless. lol. But here I go...

I believe there is a difference between judging in a critical manner and evaluating someone's actions and words objectively.

But for me, if someone wants to accuse me of judging I say, "fine," go right ahead, because I know I am joining every other human being who has ever walked on this earth, and if one sees themselves as never being one to judge another, then I will be amused and shake my head at them.

In fact, those that amuse me the most are the ones who love telling another person that they are judging (and I see this all the time)...for that, in itself, is judging another individual, and putting themselves above them. (They are judging someone for judging)

We all judge. In most cases we shouldn't. And we should strive not to judge another in a critical way...because it is true, we so often do not know their whole story.

But we do evaluate. And some do discern. And many question when something does not feel right.

kindofdisco's posts have been very reasonable. You've communicated well. You tried.

EDIT: (oh, just read Autumn's post...your post as well!)

 

[Sdeidjs]

With KNOWLEDGE comes WISDOM, with WISDOM comes TRUST and with TRUST comes JUSTICE which certainly "does not" come without doubt and controversy..!

Even if Mr. Michael Jackson was still alive..I am fulfilling a promise that was "prearranged" and "mutually agreed" upon..!

H.I.S.t.o.r.y IS what it IS..! (c) 1993 - 2011

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E

GOD BLESS ALWAYS

 

[Lisha]

Oh good, we can dialogue a little now, Susie. He asked you to promise that you would post in this thread in the spring/summer of 2011 conversations you had with him via IM during the month of April 2009 ?

 

[Autumn II]

Talk about posting a post that is going to end up absolutely pointless. lol. But here I go...

I believe there is a difference between judging in a critical manner and evaluating someone's actions and words objectively.

But for me, if someone wants to accuse me of judging I say, "fine," go right ahead, because I know I am joining every other human being who has ever walked on this earth, and if one sees themselves as never being one to judge another, then I will be amused and shake my head at them.

In fact, those that amuse me the most are the ones who love telling another person that they are judging (and I see this all the time)...for that, in itself, is judging another individual, and putting themselves above them. (They are judging someone for judging)

We all judge. In most cases we shouldn't. And we should strive not to judge another in a critical way...because it is true, we so often do not know their whole story.

But we do evaluate. And some do discern. And many question when something does not feel right.

kindofdisco's posts have been very reasonable. You've communicated well. You tried.

EDIT: (oh, just read Autumn's post...your post as well!)

Thank you. In many ways, this is the most beautiful thread on the board, and the most sincere. All opinions are of value, and many have been thinking deeply in this thread, and sharing highly personal emotions. Michael's death affected us ALL, ok? Yes, kingofdisco's posts have been reasonable. I see that this thread is now "stickied," and that's a good thing. But, anyone who posts and/or reads here, should be cognizant of the PURPOSE of the thread, which is mysterious, fanciful, and speculative. I'll just say that there is also a trend that's been going on for quite long enough, and that has raised serious concerns. I do believe there is cause for concern, and I say this with the utmost respect. Whether real or not, those types of posts should STOP. Michael was a very private man, and I highly doubt that he'd want his private words made public. . . IF that was him? That's not really so hard to understand, is it? And if a hoax? I do hope that Susie, and all of us, can move forward in life?

My point is, IF Susie had a personal communication with Michael, it should remain PRIVATE. I'm quite sure that is what he would want, and that should be respected. And if she did not, then some balance must be achieved.

 

[Lisha]

But, anyone who posts and/or reads here, should be cognizant of the PURPOSE of the thread, which is mysterious, fanciful, and speculative.

That is very well put. And a good reminder.

My point is, IF Susie had a personal communication with Michael, it should remain PRIVATE. I'm quite sure that is what he would want, and that should be respected. And if she did not, then some balance must be achieved.

I think most would agree. This has been going on for too long and makes this thread feel uncomfortable. And that's a shame, for many come here to be blessed, to laugh, at times feel some depth, and to have a little escapism. It can be a lovely diversion.

 

[Autumn II]

That is very well put. And a good reminder.

I think most would agree. This has been going on for too long and makes this thread feel uncomfortable. And that's a shame, for many come here to be blessed, to laugh, at times feel some depth, and to have a little escapism. It can be a lovely diversion.

Thanks. I really don't post much, at ALL. But this is the one thread I read, consistently. I'd hate to see the thread derailed, and I know that we are all tolerant, but this really has been going on for too long, with no cogent responses, at all. And yes, it is "uncomfortable." Sorry, but it IS.

DID some people "know" Michael, in various ways? Sure, that is possible, but that is not what the thread is about. It's about deciphering song-lyrics and signs, and speculating, and ranging far afield about Michael's personal ideas. I hope this "trend" that threatens to derail the thread, can END?

I repeat, Michael was a very private man. I do think speculating about song-lyrics is wonderful. But, anything personal about him, should not be repeated, anywhere. We've seen quite enough of that with all the "cling-ons" who are writing books, haven't we?

It's to the point where I'd like to get back to reading the wonderful stories and ideas? That shouldn't be so hard to understand?

 

[Sdeidjs]

Oh good, we can dialogue a little now, Susie. He asked you to promise that you would post in this thread in the spring/summer of 2011 conversations you had with him via IM during the month of April 2009 ?

Ahh! a tone of sarcasm, doubt, and controversy..! Golly Gee Wilickers...folks..."when there is the TRUTH, PROOF, and GOD by our side...there truly is NO STOPPING US..! (c) 1993 - 2011

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E

GOD BLESS ALWAYS

 

[Ashtanga]

Wow!



:fear:​

I haven't been able to be online much, but I do read here, when I can, and this is one of my favorite threads. The mystery and story-telling have been amazing. So, thanks.

:girl_sigh: :heart:

Talk about posting a post that is going to end up absolutely pointless. lol. But here I go...

LOL


:fear:

Michael was a very private man, and I highly doubt that he'd want his private words made public.

I repeat, Michael was a very private man. I do think speculating about song-lyrics is wonderful. But, anything personal about him, should not be repeated, anywhere. We've seen quite enough of that with all the "cling-ons" who are writing books, haven't we?

I'm completely agree with you. -_-

 

[Lisha]

DID some people "know" Michael, in various ways? Sure, that is possible, but that is not what the thread is about. It's about deciphering song-lyrics and signs, and speculating, and ranging far afield about Michael's personal ideas.

Very, very true. It doesn't matter to me whoever knew or talked to MJ at some point in their lives. It's not pertinent to this thread. It shouldn't even make anyone more liked, or impressive, or special, or anything. It's not that big of a deal...at least to me. Is it a big deal to others in this thread? If I knew or talked with Michael that would be a big deal to me, but not if someone else did. It's none of my business, and doesn't belong in this thread like you said, Autumn. Good point.

Oh good, we can dialogue a little now, Susie. He asked you to promise that you would post in this thread in the spring/summer of 2011 conversations you had with him via IM during the month of April 2009 ?

Ahh! a tone of sarcasm, doubt, and controversy..! Golly Gee Wilickers...folks..."when there is the TRUTH, PROOF, and GOD by our side...there truly is NO STOPPING US..! (c) 1993 - 2011

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E

GOD BLESS ALWAYS

Oh my gosh, no, it was not sarcasm but trying to follow what you are saying. I was not meaing to be rude. I was not attacking you. If you could have seen my expression on my face when I posted I had a fun glint in my eye because I thought maybe we could have a conversation that would get somewhere.

But once again, you respond like this. You make it very difficult. But it is okay, Susie. There really does seem to be no talking with you or reasoning with you. I'm a little sad, but it is okay. I've expected as much.

(maaan, I was trying to edit in my post after double posting while trying to help my son with his cooking and wow...too much at once! lol)
​

 

[kindofdisco]

I do not believe in judging either, nor do I make any of my posts out of jealousy. If Susie did in fact know Michael, then I'm honestly more than happy for her having that unique chance in life to know an amazing man! But as others said, if these are his conversations with Susie, I don't think its fair in his memory to post them on a public board. I think (if they are real) that you should treasure those memories. Sometimes the best memories we have aren't the ones that need to be shared with others. We can keep them for our own, private joy.

Just looking at those very small photos you posted Susie, and this rings way too many alarm bells. I knew a girl on another board who had similar things signed by "Michael" and sent to her over the internet/the post, and the writing is very similar to the one here. That's not Michael's typical hand writing at all. I really hope you haven't been fooled here, but I have a feeling you have. And it may take some time for you to come to realise that, and it'll be a long and hurtful process to go through when you've been decieved. Again, I speak from experience here.