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Autumn II
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I think the bottom line is that Michael's privacy should be RESPECTED. I have no idea if the conversations recounted here are real, or not real, but that is not the POINT. The point is, if they are not real, then that is a terrible problem, and I am SO sorry. If they are REAL, then I can think of no excuse or reason for posting them for the public. IF real, they should be treasured, but kept absolutely private. I really can think of NO reason why that would not be the ethical thing to do.
The thread is beautiful, and deep, and SPECULATIVE. There is no harm in that. No one in the thread is BETTER than anyone else. Everyone is searching, right? So I do hope this "trend" will end, now? (I've been reading here for awhile now, and the "trend" is getting NO better.)
The thread is beautiful, and deep, and SPECULATIVE. There is no harm in that. No one in the thread is BETTER than anyone else. Everyone is searching, right? So I do hope this "trend" will end, now? (I've been reading here for awhile now, and the "trend" is getting NO better.)
I deeply apologize for taking your post as being negative. If we put ourselves in the others shoes...how would we feel..? Think about what has been said the last two days or so....do ones really think I out of all people in the world would ever hurt in any way shape or form Mr. Michael Jackson, his family, friends, admirers, and fans..?
kindofdisco
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Nobody is talking about you hurting others, Susie. It's just a matter of keeping treasured memories private. Some people might feel that you are lording over them the fact that you talked to Michael, by posting these conversations. Others, such as myself, fear that this wasn't Michael at all and you may have been scammed.
Lisha
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I'm sorry you experienced that, kindofdisco. I feel too many have in the MJ community. So many find it a game to dupe others in such a way. Not one or two, a lot, and not just here, but on YouTube and IMing, and Skype, PMs, emails...it is so pathetic and warped. And so many fans have yearned for so long to just talk with MJ. We all would love that, right? Then we are all susceptible. It doesn't matter our age, or how long we've been a fan, or how smart we are, or how sincere. Sadly, it's coming into contact with the wrong (and extremely devious) individual.
I came into the MJ scene a few years ago, completely removed from the world and very sheltered. Being here has been a true eye opener. What did MJ sing in the song, Carousel..."I'm from a world of disappointment and confusion." Yeah, he really was if I go by the things I have seen and experienced within the fan community... due mostly to the sharks and the ugly hearted that infilterate his world, both fan-related and business related. And not just that, but people being people with all our imperfections. Doesn't always make for such a happy environment.
I so grieve over fans being deceived by game players. You have no idea how much it bothers me.
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kindofdisco
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Its horrible, it really is. And the smartest ones out there never admit or say straight out that they're "Michael Jackson", its just all about the similarities and them letting you come to your own conclusion so that in the end, they have no "proof" that they ever pretended to be Michael. It's sick and its wrong, and unfortunately its happened as recently as last year on this very board.
Lisha
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If I am understanding Susie correctly she is saying her reason
is that she had permission from Michael to post the things she is posting...or it is to fulfill a promise she made to him. But that is why I posted what I did to ask her exactly what he gave her permission to do in order to clarify.
Sdeidjs said:
I accept your apology.
And I think if you are hurting anyone (or anything) it is simply this thread. That is why I am trying to establish if your stance is that Michael asked you to post these things in this thread at this time. Do you see why I am asking? Because otherwise it is not making sense.
Yes! Exactly! I hate it! (I know the Lord says we are not to hate, with the exception of hating evil. But to me, this is a form of evil!)kindofdisco said:
Goodness Gracious Ladies & Gents,
Do I really have to spell it out for all of YOU..???
He stayed up one evening until 6:00 am reading, the raw Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE Part 1 (c) 1993, 1995, 2005 that was scanned some time ago to www.myspace.com Sdeidjs located in photos.
If many of you may or may not recall, I have been talking about what I/WE hold in my possession since 1993~
I/WE were working on and I was given permission to share a select/certain "public" subjects of interest excerts AND was told to finish writing H.I.S.t.o.r.y.
As far as the public being privy to the depths of what we spoke about prior to but not limited to 2009...I "PROMISED" THEE TRUST, HONOR, AND INTEGRITY SHALL "NEVER" "EVER" be broken..!
On THAT Note: "NO one can "EVER" change the past...Original Documents ARE what they ARE...AND one day without ANY doubt in my mind...the "TRUTH OF JUSTICE" will change "H.I.S.t.o.r.y" forever..!~"
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds of which will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "ELDERLY"..!~) (c) 1993 -2011
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Do I really have to spell it out for all of YOU..???
He stayed up one evening until 6:00 am reading, the raw Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE Part 1 (c) 1993, 1995, 2005 that was scanned some time ago to www.myspace.com Sdeidjs located in photos.
If many of you may or may not recall, I have been talking about what I/WE hold in my possession since 1993~
I/WE were working on and I was given permission to share a select/certain "public" subjects of interest excerts AND was told to finish writing H.I.S.t.o.r.y.
As far as the public being privy to the depths of what we spoke about prior to but not limited to 2009...I "PROMISED" THEE TRUST, HONOR, AND INTEGRITY SHALL "NEVER" "EVER" be broken..!
On THAT Note: "NO one can "EVER" change the past...Original Documents ARE what they ARE...AND one day without ANY doubt in my mind...the "TRUTH OF JUSTICE" will change "H.I.S.t.o.r.y" forever..!~"
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds of which will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "ELDERLY"..!~) (c) 1993 -2011
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
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kindofdisco
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Susie, please don't get defensive. Of course people are going to be curious if you've 1) never posted any solid evidence to what you're claiming and 2) well, get this defensive over our curiosity. We were just concerned for your safety.
Lisha
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Okay. Thank you so much, Susie, for spelling it out for us. Maybe that makes you view us as being dense, but everything surrounding this is quite confusing.
Please spell some more out for us.
Why would Michael Jackson want us to read these particular parts of the selected convos you've posted? I can make no sense of why he would. Who does it benefit?
Please spell some more out for us.
Why would Michael Jackson want us to read these particular parts of the selected convos you've posted? I can make no sense of why he would. Who does it benefit?
Everything I loath...Lording..? Self Absorbtion..? Self promoting..? Being Duped..? ect...ect..!
Wholeheartedly, disappointed that out of all the people throughout the world...
Some not all of Mr.Michael Jackson's fans doubt the intelligence, trust, integrity, honor, dedication, loyalty, and more importantly purity of the heart..!~
Unlike soo very many others, I care about "helping others", no matter what color, creed, status, and or nationality one (s) derive from...I am the taught, I am the teacher, I am the sought, I am the messenger...I talk the talk and walk the walk..!
Therefore, as promised; Susie is "just" being Susie like she has and shall always and forever be..!~ (c) 2009
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds of which will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "ELDERLY"..!~) (c) 1993 -2011
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
GOD Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Wholeheartedly, disappointed that out of all the people throughout the world...
Some not all of Mr.Michael Jackson's fans doubt the intelligence, trust, integrity, honor, dedication, loyalty, and more importantly purity of the heart..!~
Unlike soo very many others, I care about "helping others", no matter what color, creed, status, and or nationality one (s) derive from...I am the taught, I am the teacher, I am the sought, I am the messenger...I talk the talk and walk the walk..!
Therefore, as promised; Susie is "just" being Susie like she has and shall always and forever be..!~ (c) 2009
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds of which will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "ELDERLY"..!~) (c) 1993 -2011
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
GOD Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
It's about the "TRUTH OF JUSTICE"...restoring Him and His Honor, Integrity, and Legacy to where it should have always stayed..! (c) 1993 -2009
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Lisha
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But Susie, listen to how you worded this here:
"Unlike soo very many others, I care about 'helping others'"
See how you just placed yourself "above" others? Where is the humility? You are seeming to be patting yourself on the back for having such a helpful heart when so many others do not.
There is a scripture I like a lot which says something like this, "But when you do merciful deeds, don't let your left hand know what your right hand does (Matt 6:3).
Michael Jackson tried to live by this. He didn't talk about what he did to help others in secret or boast about his caring, giving ways which he quietly carried out. Hopefully he knew enough not to feel above those who were not as helpful and givng as he...for it is by the grace of God that we serve Him in any way. God doesn't need any one of us, but He gives us the privilege of serving Him and letting us join in with His heart purposes.
Why? Because He knows it will also bless us as we bless others. But we should not think we are better than others because of it. And we should not be doing it just because Michael Jackson did or he would maybe think better of us because we are. It should be something kept between us and God.
I wonder how many of us could do something to help others in some way that we knew would be something Michael would probably do, and then have a chance to talk with or/and know Michael and NOT even share it with him....because we did it for God, not for Michael Jackson.
"Unlike soo very many others, I care about 'helping others'"
See how you just placed yourself "above" others? Where is the humility? You are seeming to be patting yourself on the back for having such a helpful heart when so many others do not.
There is a scripture I like a lot which says something like this, "But when you do merciful deeds, don't let your left hand know what your right hand does (Matt 6:3).
Michael Jackson tried to live by this. He didn't talk about what he did to help others in secret or boast about his caring, giving ways which he quietly carried out. Hopefully he knew enough not to feel above those who were not as helpful and givng as he...for it is by the grace of God that we serve Him in any way. God doesn't need any one of us, but He gives us the privilege of serving Him and letting us join in with His heart purposes.
Why? Because He knows it will also bless us as we bless others. But we should not think we are better than others because of it. And we should not be doing it just because Michael Jackson did or he would maybe think better of us because we are. It should be something kept between us and God.
I wonder how many of us could do something to help others in some way that we knew would be something Michael would probably do, and then have a chance to talk with or/and know Michael and NOT even share it with him....because we did it for God, not for Michael Jackson.
Of course I/WE did/do;
Aside from The Jourrnal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE Part 2 of 2 selective excerpts being posted these last few weeks...
H.I.S.t.o.r.y has always been right in front of each and everyone of our eyes..!
"We have the tools to achieve there rules..!"~
Susie Deeds (Author)
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE Part 1 (c) 1993
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
GOD Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Aside from The Jourrnal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE Part 2 of 2 selective excerpts being posted these last few weeks...
H.I.S.t.o.r.y has always been right in front of each and everyone of our eyes..!
"We have the tools to achieve there rules..!"~
Susie Deeds (Author)
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE Part 1 (c) 1993
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
GOD Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
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Lisha
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I need to go to bed now. I am up too late for me. But Susie, this is actually the best we've done in conversing back and forth. I feel some progress was made tonight and I am leaving smiling with a contented heart. Thank you for your part in this. It is so important, and considerate really, to be clear as possible with others. And if a reasonable question is asked, for one to do their best to give a full and clear answer.
Good night.
Good night.
Let me refrase, clarrify that statement...
Unlike so many other of Mr.Michael Jackson "so called" trusted confidences, they lied, deserted, used and abused him...and for what? Money, prestige, and fame..! THAT is what I was refering to...
NOT for what I have helped with, for if THAT was my intentions I would not have asked/continue to desire to gift the proceeds to the two "mutually agreed "prearranged" charities..!~
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds of which will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "ELDERLY"..!~) (c) 1993 -2011
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
GOD Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Unlike so many other of Mr.Michael Jackson "so called" trusted confidences, they lied, deserted, used and abused him...and for what? Money, prestige, and fame..! THAT is what I was refering to...
NOT for what I have helped with, for if THAT was my intentions I would not have asked/continue to desire to gift the proceeds to the two "mutually agreed "prearranged" charities..!~
The Journal Of Reflections & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds of which will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually" agreed upon charities. All The "Children" Of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "ELDERLY"..!~) (c) 1993 -2011
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
GOD Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
God Bless, Be Safe, and More Importantly "Our "Children" Are The Future...Our "Elderly" Are The Inspiration..KEEP Helping To Heal The World...Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key..!~ (c) 1993 -2011
Peace Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Peace Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
:rollingpeace::rollingpeace:
Ashtanga
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summer
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Just checking in here quick to say...
Aaaawww....Shila....Thank you so much for the very very sweet message you left at that "other website"!! Just read it now and first was like "What thread...?" and then was like "OOOOOOH...!!!!" :doh: :lol: :lol: :lol: Totally didn't expect to have some leave ME a message there, but it was very very sweet of you nevertheless! :wub: Made me smile, and really touched my heart! So thank you sooooooooooooooooo much once again for it and for all your kind words! :wub: Love you too!! *HUUUGGGSSSS* God bless!!!
I'll try to catch up with this thread tomorrow...been away for a while, so have lots of catching up to do, I think!
I hope all of you have been well!! Have a great weekend and GOD BLESS!!! Talk to ya all soon!
Aaaawww....Shila....Thank you so much for the very very sweet message you left at that "other website"!! Just read it now and first was like "What thread...?" and then was like "OOOOOOH...!!!!" :doh: :lol: :lol: :lol: Totally didn't expect to have some leave ME a message there, but it was very very sweet of you nevertheless! :wub: Made me smile, and really touched my heart! So thank you sooooooooooooooooo much once again for it and for all your kind words! :wub: Love you too!! *HUUUGGGSSSS* God bless!!!
I'll try to catch up with this thread tomorrow...been away for a while, so have lots of catching up to do, I think!
I hope all of you have been well!! Have a great weekend and GOD BLESS!!! Talk to ya all soon!
Ashtanga
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Summer > :ciao: :hug:
:angel:
Good to see you again here. :wild: I hope you come back :yes: and not disappear ... as others have done.
I'll try to catch up with this thread tomorrow...been away for a while, so have lots of catching up to do, I think!
I hope all of you have been well!! Have a great weekend and GOD BLESS!!! Talk to ya all soon!
:angel:
Good to see you again here. :wild: I hope you come back :yes: and not disappear
... as others have done. 8701girl
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Just checking in here quick to say...
Aaaawww....Shila....Thank you so much for the very very sweet message you left at that "other website"!! Just read it now and first was like "What thread...?" and then was like "OOOOOOH...!!!!" :doh: :lol: :lol: :lol: Totally didn't expect to have some leave ME a message there, but it was very very sweet of you nevertheless! :wub: Made me smile, and really touched my heart! So thank you sooooooooooooooooo much once again for it and for all your kind words! :wub: Love you too!! *HUUUGGGSSSS* God bless!!!
I'll try to catch up with this thread tomorrow...been away for a while, so have lots of catching up to do, I think!
I hope all of you have been well!! Have a great weekend and GOD BLESS!!! Talk to ya all soon!
SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
where have u been missy!? we have been missing u. Hope are well
Lisha
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Just checking in here quick to say...
Aaaawww....Shila....Thank you so much for the very very sweet message you left at that "other website"!! Just read it now and first was like "What thread...?" and then was like "OOOOOOH...!!!!" :doh: :lol: :lol: :lol: Totally didn't expect to have some leave ME a message there, but it was very very sweet of you nevertheless! :wub: Made me smile, and really touched my heart! So thank you sooooooooooooooooo much once again for it and for all your kind words! :wub: Love you too!! *HUUUGGGSSSS* God bless!!!
I'll try to catch up with this thread tomorrow...been away for a while, so have lots of catching up to do, I think!
I hope all of you have been well!! Have a great weekend and GOD BLESS!!! Talk to ya all soon!
summer, you are SO welcome; I meant every word! And afterwards I visited your twitter, and I hope when you post next here you will fill us in a little more about what exactly is going on with your one arm. I know you, yourself, are even waiting (I haven't been back to your twitter, actually, so maybe I've missed an update) to hear the doctors' findings... but for an arm to suddenly not work right due to unexplanable sudden weakness seems quite odd. I have been praying and as we learn more here we can all pray even more specifically. You know, God uses you in a special way with children. It's a special calling. Just like Lorraine, you both are positioned to bless little ones (newborns, for Lorraine
) in many sweet and special, loving ways (just sometimes maybe by a gentle, caring touch; a soft spoken word; a smile, etc). So we want ya to get that arm working again so you are good to go, and you can do your job so well as you always have, as a pediatric nurse (I am so impressed with you, you smart blond you! You passed all those difficult exams to become a nurse!). So please let us know!
<TABLE id=itemcontentlist><TBODY><TR><TD style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.4em; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">“I haven’t been betrayed or deceived by children,” he said. “Adults have let me down.” Michael Jackson
Six Years Ago: Michael Jackson Acquitted of ALL Charges
Posted: 13 Jun 2011 04:22 AM PDT
(AP) – A jury acquitted Michael Jackson on Monday of molesting a 13-year-old cancer survivor at his Neverland ranch – exonerating the pop star who insisted he was the victim of mother-and-son con artists and a prosecutor with a vendetta.
Jurors also acquitted Jackson of getting the boy drunk and of conspiring to imprison his accuser and the boy’s family at the estate – a total legal victory. Jackson had faced nearly 20 years in prison.
Jackson looked straight ahead as the verdicts were read and showed no visible reaction as he was found not guilty of all counts.
“Jackson looked absolutely leveled” by the reading of the not guilty counts. “He seemed like he was crying a little bit,” reports Jackson biographer and CBS Consultant J. Randy Taraborelli.
Jackson’s attorneys “seemed a little dazed,” too, Taraborelli says.
One of his lawyers burst into tears as the first verdicts were announced, and Jackson later stood and was embraced by his chief lawyer, Thomas Mesereau Jr. Some of the women in the jury also wept and passed around a box of tissues.
As he left court, Jackson, looking drawn, held his hand to his heart and blew kisses to the screaming crowd. He was escorted by his aides into a black SUV, and made no immediate public statement. Jackson later arrived at Neverland, where he was greeted by more fans.
Hours after the verdict, Mesereau posted a statement on the star’s Web site, saying “Justice is done. The man’s innocent. He always was.”
“I would never have married a pedophile. And the system works,” Jackson’s ex-wife Debbie Rowe said in a statement given to “Entertainment Tonight.”
Screams of joy rang out among a throng of fans outside the courthouse. Fans jumped up and down, hugged each other and threw confetti in celebration of the news. A woman in the crowed released one white dove as each acquittal was announced.
Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon sat with his head in his hands.
“Obviously, we’re disappointed in the verdict … but we believe in the system of justice,” Sneddon told reporters. He said he had not yet spoken to the accuser’s family about the outcome.
After the verdicts were announced, the judge read a statement from the jury: “We the jury feel the weight of the world’s eyes upon us.” They asked to be allowed to return to “our private lives as anonymously as we came.”
The jurors remained guarded about details of their 30 hours of deliberations over seven days but offered some insight during a news conference, saying they were irritated by the testimony of the accuser’s mother, who at one point snapped her fingers at them.
“I disliked it intensely when she snapped her fingers at us,” said one juror, a woman. She said she thought to herself, “Don’t snap your fingers at me, lady.” The jurors were not identified.
During the trial, defense lawyers described Jackson as a humanitarian who wanted to protect kids and give them the life he never had while growing up as a child star. The boy had asked to meet the star when he thought he was dying of cancer.
The defense said the family exploited the boy’s illness to shake down celebrities, then concocted the charges after realizing Jackson was cutting them off from a jet-set lifestyle that included limo rides and stays at luxurious resorts.
Prosecutors who had been pursuing Jackson for years branded him a deviant who used his playland as the ultimate pervert’s lair, plying boys with booze and porn before molesting them.
The acquittals marked a stinging defeat for Sneddon, who displayed open hostility for Jackson and eagerly tried him — an opportunity denied him in 1993 when the star settled another threatened molestation case with a boy for $15 million to $20 million.
Later, Jackson derided Sneddon in song as “a cold man.”
Jackson was cleared of 10 charges in all, including four counts that he molested the boy in early 2003. Jackson also was charged with providing the boy with wine — “Jesus juice,” the pop star allegedly called it — and conspiring with members of his inner circle to hold the accuser and his family captive to get them to rebut a damaging documentary.
Although Jackson did not take the stand, the defense used a powerful tape of him shot by his own video cameraman. The jury saw nearly three hours of introspection during which the star talked about his troubled childhood.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E
God Bless Always :angel:
The Journal Of Reflection & Thoughts TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (Proceeds will be donated to two "prearranged" "mutually agreed" upon charities. All The "Children" of The World Charities AND The Dailey Jackson Foundation For The "Elderly"..!~ (c) 1993 - 2011
Six Years Ago: Michael Jackson Acquitted of ALL Charges
Posted: 13 Jun 2011 04:22 AM PDT
(AP) – A jury acquitted Michael Jackson on Monday of molesting a 13-year-old cancer survivor at his Neverland ranch – exonerating the pop star who insisted he was the victim of mother-and-son con artists and a prosecutor with a vendetta.
Jurors also acquitted Jackson of getting the boy drunk and of conspiring to imprison his accuser and the boy’s family at the estate – a total legal victory. Jackson had faced nearly 20 years in prison.
Jackson looked straight ahead as the verdicts were read and showed no visible reaction as he was found not guilty of all counts.
“Jackson looked absolutely leveled” by the reading of the not guilty counts. “He seemed like he was crying a little bit,” reports Jackson biographer and CBS Consultant J. Randy Taraborelli.
Jackson’s attorneys “seemed a little dazed,” too, Taraborelli says.
One of his lawyers burst into tears as the first verdicts were announced, and Jackson later stood and was embraced by his chief lawyer, Thomas Mesereau Jr. Some of the women in the jury also wept and passed around a box of tissues.
As he left court, Jackson, looking drawn, held his hand to his heart and blew kisses to the screaming crowd. He was escorted by his aides into a black SUV, and made no immediate public statement. Jackson later arrived at Neverland, where he was greeted by more fans.
Hours after the verdict, Mesereau posted a statement on the star’s Web site, saying “Justice is done. The man’s innocent. He always was.”
“I would never have married a pedophile. And the system works,” Jackson’s ex-wife Debbie Rowe said in a statement given to “Entertainment Tonight.”
Screams of joy rang out among a throng of fans outside the courthouse. Fans jumped up and down, hugged each other and threw confetti in celebration of the news. A woman in the crowed released one white dove as each acquittal was announced.
Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon sat with his head in his hands.
“Obviously, we’re disappointed in the verdict … but we believe in the system of justice,” Sneddon told reporters. He said he had not yet spoken to the accuser’s family about the outcome.
After the verdicts were announced, the judge read a statement from the jury: “We the jury feel the weight of the world’s eyes upon us.” They asked to be allowed to return to “our private lives as anonymously as we came.”
The jurors remained guarded about details of their 30 hours of deliberations over seven days but offered some insight during a news conference, saying they were irritated by the testimony of the accuser’s mother, who at one point snapped her fingers at them.
“I disliked it intensely when she snapped her fingers at us,” said one juror, a woman. She said she thought to herself, “Don’t snap your fingers at me, lady.” The jurors were not identified.
During the trial, defense lawyers described Jackson as a humanitarian who wanted to protect kids and give them the life he never had while growing up as a child star. The boy had asked to meet the star when he thought he was dying of cancer.
The defense said the family exploited the boy’s illness to shake down celebrities, then concocted the charges after realizing Jackson was cutting them off from a jet-set lifestyle that included limo rides and stays at luxurious resorts.
Prosecutors who had been pursuing Jackson for years branded him a deviant who used his playland as the ultimate pervert’s lair, plying boys with booze and porn before molesting them.
The acquittals marked a stinging defeat for Sneddon, who displayed open hostility for Jackson and eagerly tried him — an opportunity denied him in 1993 when the star settled another threatened molestation case with a boy for $15 million to $20 million.
Later, Jackson derided Sneddon in song as “a cold man.”
Jackson was cleared of 10 charges in all, including four counts that he molested the boy in early 2003. Jackson also was charged with providing the boy with wine — “Jesus juice,” the pop star allegedly called it — and conspiring with members of his inner circle to hold the accuser and his family captive to get them to rebut a damaging documentary.
Although Jackson did not take the stand, the defense used a powerful tape of him shot by his own video cameraman. The jury saw nearly three hours of introspection during which the star talked about his troubled childhood.
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MysteriousPhoenix
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For Shila, hubby and son ... they have always been good friends to us ...
He Holds Everything
You're waitin' for that other shoe to drop
And you swear this world's gonna come to a stop
Drowning on dry land and you can't come up for air
Your knees are so weak and you look at that mountain
Say there's no way over and no way around it
And you feel like you're so far from home, even God's not there
Oh, but every single sparrow flying
And every broken soul that's crying
He can see, yeah, you're in His reach
If He can hold an ocean back with one little shore
Then what's all this worry and doubting for?
Oh, I believe He holds everything
When it's late at night and you're staring at the stack of bills
And it don't add up, you don't know how it will
Clinging to your mother's faith with a half-hearted prayer
But you still don't know
When the anchor man breaks in on your TV
And says these times they won't be easy
And fear sets in and you wanna give in
Just let it go, oh let it go
'Cause every single sparrow flying
And every broken soul that's crying
He can see, yeah, you're in His reach
If he can hold an ocean back with one little shore
Then what's all this worry and doubting for?
Oh, I believe He holds everything
He holds everything
Oh, every single sparrow flying
And every broken soul that's crying
He can see, yeah, you're in His reach
If He can hold an ocean back with one little shore
Then what's all this worry and doubting for?
Oh, I believe, yeah, I believe He holds everything
He holds everything ...
He Holds Everything
You're waitin' for that other shoe to drop
And you swear this world's gonna come to a stop
Drowning on dry land and you can't come up for air
Your knees are so weak and you look at that mountain
Say there's no way over and no way around it
And you feel like you're so far from home, even God's not there
Oh, but every single sparrow flying
And every broken soul that's crying
He can see, yeah, you're in His reach
If He can hold an ocean back with one little shore
Then what's all this worry and doubting for?
Oh, I believe He holds everything
When it's late at night and you're staring at the stack of bills
And it don't add up, you don't know how it will
Clinging to your mother's faith with a half-hearted prayer
But you still don't know
When the anchor man breaks in on your TV
And says these times they won't be easy
And fear sets in and you wanna give in
Just let it go, oh let it go
'Cause every single sparrow flying
And every broken soul that's crying
He can see, yeah, you're in His reach
If he can hold an ocean back with one little shore
Then what's all this worry and doubting for?
Oh, I believe He holds everything
He holds everything
Oh, every single sparrow flying
And every broken soul that's crying
He can see, yeah, you're in His reach
If He can hold an ocean back with one little shore
Then what's all this worry and doubting for?
Oh, I believe, yeah, I believe He holds everything
He holds everything ...
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MysteriousPhoenix
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Sorry about the double post ... some sorta technical issue.
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Summer > :ciao: :hug:
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Good to see you again here. :wild: I hope you come back :yes: and not disappear
Thanks!
It's nice to see this thread still alive....How could I ever really leave...my favorite thread on MJJC! :wub: SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey!
Just been really busy with work, and I started studying art history at the uni "for fun" (not planning on quitting my current job...but my brain just needed a "hobby"...:lol. So just been really busy...And yeah...I'm well now. I think. :lol: summer, you are SO welcome; I meant every word! And afterwards I visited your twitter, and I hope when you post next here you will fill us in a little more about what exactly is going on with your one arm. I know you, yourself, are even waiting (I haven't been back to your twitter, actually, so maybe I've missed an update) to hear the doctors' findings... but for an arm to suddenly not work right due to unexplanable sudden weakness seems quite odd. I have been praying and as we learn more here we can all pray even more specifically. You know, God uses you in a special way with children. It's a special calling. Just like Lorraine, you both are positioned to bless little ones (newborns, for Lorraine
So please let us know!
Hi shila!!
And thanks again!!
My arm is finally getting better...thank GOD!! I was already getting REALLY frustrated. I never even knew how DIFFICULT many every day tasks are when you can't use one hand properly. It just suddenly went numb some weeks ago. Numb and weak. And being the way I am, I just thought "How weird..and how ANNOYING!!"...:lol: Didn't even worry about it because I felt fine and nothing else was wrong. But did go to the doctor. So this brilliant doctor I went to first...didn't even LOOK at my arm...nor did she examine me at all..but just gave me a prescription for a muscle relaxant. I was like "Gee..if she prescribes me something without even having examined me...I ain't taking any kind of meds, especially benzodiazepines JUST LIKE THAT...without knowing what the cause is!". So I didn't even go get the meds...stayed at home for a day...and then thought "Pfft...it's nothing..I'm fine..." and went back to work the next day. And work was absolute TORTURE...I had no strength in the arm, I could barely move my fingers, everyone said my left arm was just pretty much hanging on my side...So our doctor immediately sent me to a neurologist, who immediately sent me to an acute brain MRI and they did a couple of other tests right away too. Luckily pretty much everything came back ok. So at least my brain is fine...which is a relief! But when it lasts one week...two weeks...three weeks...and no one can really tell you what is wrong with you..and you know that as long as they don't know what is wrong...they also can't help you. So you know...either the arm gets better by itself...or it won't...and you have no idea when it will get better...so it is VERY frustrating. Thank god my arm chose the first option and got better on its own after three weeks. What it really was...no one really knows. Some doctors said it could have been a TIA (a mini stroke), but I doubt it was...especially since the arm stayed weak for weeks. From what I understand a mini stroke comes and goes and doesn't leave any damage and lasts for 24 hours max. Then again...nothing is 100% in medicine. So who knows. I just am hoping it was not that, because it could mean you're at risk of having a real stroke. Anyways...don't wanna go into too much detail but yeah...that's what's been going on. That...and them finding out a tumor marker is elevated. Which needs to be controlled. But I'm sure I have nothing to worry about. I mean, I just got examined from head to toe and they found nothing, so I'm sure it will be fine. Would still like to know now though...and not in 2 months... Yes..I love love LOVE my job!! That's one of the reasonsg why I was getting so FRUSTRATED, because I didn't have a clue when I'll be able to work again...IF ever!! And not knowing if I'll ever be able to work again was quite depressing to be honest! I was like "What if my arm stays like this? No one knows what it is...what if it WON'T go away by itself? What am I gonna do then? I can't work if it stays like this!"...Scary thought! And yes, I work as a pediatric nurse full time...but I'm also a part time nurse anesthetist. It's a nice and interesting thing to do once in a while...but I wouldn't want to do it full time. I love the interaction with the kids and with their parents and love taking care of the kids and then seeing them get better.
No matter how I am feeling and how stressful work is...thekids always manage to make me smile! They say and do the funniest things and when you're able to comfort them or do all the hospital stuff without them needing to cry...that makes my heart happy. So yes...I love my job! :wub: Anyways...enough about me. Shila....I was shocked to hear about your husband having had a stroke!!!! Having just had a mini MINI scare of that sort myself I can't even imagine how hard it must be for him AND for you, ad for the whole family!!! I was at least able to still move my arm and legs and like I said, I don't really think I had even a mini stroke. But not being able to use my arm properly gave me a glimpse of how DIFFICULT life can be if one arm doesn't function properly...so I can't even imagine how hard it must be when one has just had a real stroke and half of the body refuses to function properly!!!! It must be such a shock! I can't say I cn totally relate..but like I said..I got a glimpse of what it could be like...and I never wanna experience anything like that again! I really hope your husband will get better soon and will fully recover soon!! Please take care and if you ever need someone to talk to..you know where to find me!!! I'll keep you guys in my prayers!!! God bless!!!!!!!!! *big BIIIIIIG hug*
With love,
summer
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Alma
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Just wanted to stop by for the purpose to send you my heartfelt well-wishes for you and your husband, Shila, I've just incidentally found out about this, since I don't visit all threads... Hope your husband will recover, this is so shocking to read.... I've no other way of contacting you anymore, so just wanted to say all this on here... *hugs and prayers* ....
Ashtanga
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Thanks!
:yes:
All of us here love this thread. :girl_sigh: :heart: And I hope your arm is fully recovered soon. :angel: :heart:
And Shila I also hope things are ok with you, your husband and son. :angel: :heart:
Hey MysteriousPhoenix >>> :ciao: and :hug:
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My gosh, I feel like lately I'm posting in here every other minute...here I am agaaaiiinnnn! But I wanted to thank so many of you for your prayers and caring.
Aww, Alma, hello and thank you for the hugs and prayers! :hug:
Good for you! I still regret not taking Art History when I was in college and told myself one day I'll take that class if it's the last thing I do!!! haha. I hope you're enjoying it and learning a lot.
That is so sweet of you to offer, thank you! :hug: (you're hug reaaalllly squeezed me, btw! It was sooooo BIIIIIIG! lol)
Thank you, MP, for posting such an encouraging, and faith building, song! :flowers:
We've talked before, MP, on how sometimes we get a song in the morning or whatever and it makes us think...wait a min...is this a song for the LITD thread?! Remember not too long ago you had a song stay with you and you posted it?
Well, I woke up with this one...a few lines were playing in my head...and came back all through the day until just now, so I said, "Enough! I need to find this song on YouTube and look over the lyrics! There's got to be SOME reason why this song won't go away."
And I did manage to figure out which song it is and here it is for all of you. Maybe MJ, before he left us , felt this way about his LITD girl and would have liked to have sung it to her. :heart:....or maybe he did? :wub:
[youtube]Z3LmfQkxIk0[/youtube]
Agree with both of these statements, and how!
:hug:that Sweet Ash said:
Aww, Alma, hello and thank you for the hugs and prayers! :hug:
Hey!
Good for you! I still regret not taking Art History when I was in college and told myself one day I'll take that class if it's the last thing I do!!! haha. I hope you're enjoying it and learning a lot.
That is very good news! :clapping:It was such a strange thing I was a little worried.summer said:
What does "finding out a tumor marker is elevated" mean exactly?summer said:
summer said:
That is so sweet of you to offer, thank you! :hug: (you're hug reaaalllly squeezed me, btw! It was sooooo BIIIIIIG! lol)
Thank you, MP, for posting such an encouraging, and faith building, song! :flowers:
We've talked before, MP, on how sometimes we get a song in the morning or whatever and it makes us think...wait a min...is this a song for the LITD thread?! Remember not too long ago you had a song stay with you and you posted it?
Well, I woke up with this one...a few lines were playing in my head...and came back all through the day until just now, so I said, "Enough! I need to find this song on YouTube and look over the lyrics! There's got to be SOME reason why this song won't go away."
And I did manage to figure out which song it is and here it is for all of you. Maybe MJ, before he left us
, felt this way about his LITD girl and would have liked to have sung it to her. :heart:....or maybe he did? :wub:[youtube]Z3LmfQkxIk0[/youtube]
Ingelief
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sorry is it just me? Susie you sound like your high! your avoiding answers your using words that arent even in this discussion, your being weird not even making any sence at all... I never read that you said you knew michael in real life, and online i dont buy it at all.. why using the same word over and over and not say anything with a real answer???
the way you portray yourself is just.....
sentence like this:
I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my "GOOD STANDING", "GOOD NAME", "INTEGRITY", "TRUST", and "HONOR"..!~
what the .. are you talking about? People just asked you did you knew michael and this is your answer?! That aint nothing of a answer that is just not normal
i read alot of the latest post and im getting really annoyed..
Like kindofdisco said: But you need to stop posting these conversations!
and this susie: advocate of Mr.Michael Jackson
What are you saying your an advocate of michael?????????????????????????
common
the way you portray yourself is just.....
sentence like this:
I have worked way too long, and way too hard, to "EVER" jepordize my "GOOD STANDING", "GOOD NAME", "INTEGRITY", "TRUST", and "HONOR"..!~
what the .. are you talking about? People just asked you did you knew michael and this is your answer?! That aint nothing of a answer that is just not normal
i read alot of the latest post and im getting really annoyed..
Like kindofdisco said: But you need to stop posting these conversations!
and this susie: advocate of Mr.Michael Jackson
What are you saying your an advocate of michael?????????????????????????
common