Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Hey guys please pardon this post. I wanted to send it to someone but was unable so maybe if they come to this board they will read it.

Thanks!

Yes, I know that song. Somebod'ys knocking should I let him in.

Did the guy you were warned about hurt you or did you run away from the possibility of being hurt?

I understand if you feel the Lord is pulling you away but maybe it's the devil playing with your past hurts so you wont be able to help those here know God more and His will for them.

Your words are very powerful and when I said before that you speak like an angel I wasn't being guile I was pointing out the obvious kind, insightful godly part of you. I am sure you would agree that there are people here who read this thread that are almost oblivious to God- or should I say was? I think you managed to minister to some of these people. Your words and Mysterious Phoenix has helped me. Remember the scripture that says where two or three gather together in my name I am there in the midst? You did that. God was here.

Did you notice how crazy things got after we spoke so highly of God? They even changed the name of where the thread was located! I don't think whoever did it meant wrong but do you get what I am saying? God was moving! You quoted scripture that was amazingly relevent. Not everyone could or would do that. There is strength in numbers and you're walking away. I wont judge you because only you know what God has placed on your heart or what fears you are running from. What I can say again is I hope our paths will cross again.
I may add that I also hope to see you continue to post in the thread
if it is God's will and that is what I will pray for. I avoided the selfish prayers I claimed I would likely make:)

Whatever it is you choose to do remember that you made an awesome impact on peoples lives right here.

God bless you!

Dear Favoritetune;
Since the birth of this thread on MJJC...has been a favorite...I/WE will always be here, there, and everywhere. The reflection of thoughts are most intriguing, and very thought provoking.

So Ladies & Gents, please keep them coming.

With regards to lurking and not commenting/sharing/posting/responding in this thread, I/WE have been "very busy" helping to Heal The World~~~

So please forgive...

Therefore, here is a gift from US to each and everyone of you...





Keep Helping To Heal The World...Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~

(c) 2009

L.O.V.E. Always

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Thanks for the video Sdeidjs, Love the fireworks in that video!

Has anyone interpreted the lyrics from will you be there?
 
Has anyone interpreted the lyrics from will you be there?


I think michael was asking the ppl in his life to be there for him, he needed to know he could count on someone to hold him up when things werent right

Like he says in the song

"Everyone is taking control of me
im so confused will u show to me u'll be there for me
 
Do you ladies think it was about his life then or that it was possibly prophetic or both?

Do you think any of his songs were prophetic and if so which ones and why?
 
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Do you ladies think it was about his life then or that it was possibly
prophetic or both
?

Do you think any of his songs were prophetic and if so which ones and why?

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L.O.V.E Always

Thanks for the video Sdeidjs,
Love the fireworks in that video!

Has anyone interpreted the lyrics from will you be there?

:)

L.O.V.E. Always

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Mmm! I think I made a boo boo and was supposed to combine "both" responses...with the Multi-Quote Function...Not really sure how to fix that..?

Loraine can you help a sister out?

Please forgive me...totally was not intentional..!

Thank You

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This composition/film is Breathtakingly Beautiful~~~





When You Can Live Forever...What do you live for..?


Keep Helping To Heal The World...Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~

(c) 2009

As Always

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Hahaha Lorraine that looks like a brick wall you're banging your head against. Is that the opposite of living off the wall?
 
What just came to my mind... FT, you asked what advice we would have given MJ and his LITD girl if the story behind this wonderful thread is real and not just an ongoing interactive love novel. But what we are leaving out of the picture here is (unless you guys talked about this before and I haven't read it because I haven't read the whole thread) how the situation may have ended if not with a happy ending - they never met, he died, and she is left behind. Of course that is a very sad ending if indeed true, but what advice could we give to the LITD girl then? If he had been talking to her through his songs and other messages for so many years while they were still being kept apart for some reason and never got to actually meet or only met briefly, or at least not had become an item, how must that make her feel now? To always have to live with that "what could have been but never will be" in mind. And what if they even had been reconnecting right before June last year and finally wanted to make some changes in the way they communicated (or maybe even more), then all of a sudden were torn apart again but this time once and for all with no way back. And what if the girl was actually the one who kept a distance to MJ in all these years because of fear or anything else and now has to live with the knowledge she can never make up to that again, like it was her fault they never spent more time together and shared their lives? What if MJ was the one keeping a distance to her and made her wait for such a long time, giving her hopes by showing her he was still thinking of her, but in the end for "nothing"? Wouldn't she feel furious in some way now over the situation and then feel bad about the way she feels because he isn't here anymore and she should forgive him - especially if the reason had been fear, something I guess we all can understand?

I just wonder what her situation would be today if she indeed is real. Not the happiest topic I know, but I have a down moment. lol
 
What just came to my mind... FT, you asked what advice we would have given MJ and his LITD girl if the story behind this wonderful thread is real and not just an ongoing interactive love novel. But what we are leaving out of the picture here is (unless you guys talked about this before and I haven't read it because I haven't read the whole thread) how the situation may have ended if not with a happy ending - they never met, he died, and she is left behind. Of course that is a very sad ending if indeed true, but what advice could we give to the LITD girl then? If he had been talking to her through his songs and other messages for so many years while they were still being kept apart for some reason and never got to actually meet or only met briefly, or at least not had become an item, how must that make her feel now? To always have to live with that "what could have been but never will be" in mind. And what if they even had been reconnecting right before June last year and finally wanted to make some changes in the way they communicated (or maybe even more), then all of a sudden were torn apart again but this time once and for all with no way back. And what if the girl was actually the one who kept a distance to MJ in all these years because of fear or anything else and now has to live with the knowledge she can never make up to that again, like it was her fault they never spent more time together and shared their lives? What if MJ was the one keeping a distance to her and made her wait for such a long time, giving her hopes by showing her he was still thinking of her, but in the end for "nothing"? Wouldn't she feel furious in some way now over the situation and then feel bad about the way she feels because he isn't here anymore and she should forgive him - especially if the reason had been fear, something I guess we all can understand?

I just wonder what her situation would be today if she indeed is real. Not the happiest topic I know, but I have a down moment. lol

In my/"our" humble opinion...I do not think Mr.Michael Jackson or his Angel would have any regrets..!

If, ANYTHING she/"they" would feel "Very Blessed"~~~ (c) 2009 :wub:

God Bless

As Always

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In my/"our" humble opinion...I do not think Mr.Michael Jackson or his Angel would have any regrets..!

If, ANYTHING she/"they" would feel "Very Blessed"~~~ (c) 2009 :wub:

I'm sure in any case they/she would feel very blessed, but they aren't/she isn't perfect as no one is and feelings like regret are very human. When things don't turn out the way we would like them to we feel hurt and in addition with that experience other feelings we might not like and aren't proud of. But we do feel them even if we don't want to acknowledge their existence. I see nothing wrong with that, afterall we are all human. I think your outlook on the situation is very idealistic, at least in the way I understand it. What makes you think they/she wouldn't feel any of that at all?
 
AllOverAgain, good questions I think and you're making me think. What if?

If she does exist she would probably be dealing with all sorts of emotions but I'm willing to bet if such a remarkable love affair did exist then that same love would erase all regrets. As Sdeidjs said she would likely feel blessed in thinking of that love. If she was spiritual then she would trust that God's hand is always at work in everyones life and that too would remove any regrets I think.

Now what if there were lots of women thinking they were his "litdg?" How would all this make them feel? That is another question I don't guess has been talked about and everyone has valid emotions.

Before your questions could be answered though I guess you would need to decide if they ever met or did they never meet? Love is a powerfully emotion and MJ had all the ladies falling head over heels in love with him but who was special in his heart? Was it one lady or many? I imagine if he ignored his "litdg" for some other woman then she would have regrets because he would have made a choice and it wasn't her. I imagine she would feel hurt and betrayed.

If his "litdg" was with another man then she would still have regrets and likely blame herself for them never being together.

If his "litdg" was faithful, loving and he knew this and remained the same then I don't imagine she would have any regrets whatsoever for any time lost between them. If he were gone never to return she would likely trust that she would find a way to him. She would live a life to it's fullest and honor his memory until she too reached heaven if he was forever gone.

The bible says fear God only so if she or MJ were dealing with fear that is something they would need to just get over and go on with life.

Regrets are for those who never try.
 
Do you ladies think it was about his life then or that it was possibly prophetic or both?

Do you think any of his songs were prophetic and if so which ones and why?


I think for michael songwriting was like therapy for him, it helped with releasing all the hurt, anger & sadness out of him. It also helped with sharing the joys in his life too.
 
If his "litdg" was faithful, loving and he knew this and remained the same then I don't imagine she would have any regrets whatsoever for any time lost between them. If he were gone never to return she would likely trust that she would find a way to him. She would live a life to it's fullest and honor his memory until she too reached heaven if he was forever gone.

Regrets are for those who never try.

Let's say they never met and therefore never really tried to be together since I don't see talking through mysterious messages really as trying but actually as the "cowardly" (harsh word, don't know any better right now) way of loving someone. I think regrets that they never did try hard enough would be legitimate then and that's the kind of regrets I'm talking about here. Not that they had regrets about the time they did have together and that they would feel as if it would have been better if their ways had never crossed in the first place since it didn't work out anyway.
With time we see things differently and notice what we could have done differently and wonder what had happened if we had done this or that instead. I think that may have happened to her after his passing and though it's an unhealthy way of thinking we all thend to do this every now and then, especially after someone's death.

I imagine if he ignored his "litdg" for some other woman then she would have regrets because he would have made a choice and it wasn't her. I imagine she would feel hurt and betrayed.

I don't think she would have regrets here. I'm sure she would be very hurt and sad about his decision to be with someone else than her and that she would be wondering why he had been sending her messages for such a long time just to choose someone else in the end and therefore, yes, probably also feel betrayed. But I could imagine that she would be rational enough to know that she didn't own MJ and that it wasn't some sort of betrayal of her as long as they weren't an item.
Maybe it was even easier for her to accept and let go because at least he made a decision and though it was against her she knew there was nothing she could/should do about his decision. I think it would be a hard but also in way easier situation for her, at least she knew where she was standing with him and make a decision for herself based on that and not make a decision though he was there somewhere talking to her in some way, not knowing in what kind of direction they were really going and if there were moving and one day getting closer at all. Would she had been willing to wait and take the risk that in the end it would never work out between them or would she feel that since time is something we all don't get back that she should rather spend it with someone she could actually be with? Could she even make a decision herself, wouldn't her heart make a decision for her even though her mind was telling her differently?
But now I think that maybe I am wrong in the above and it wouldn't make her decision that much easier if he was with someone else since her heart would probably still tell her to wait and have faith no matter what. And what can you really do if your heart doesn't let you move on?

If his "litdg" was with another man then she would still have regrets and likely blame herself for them never being together.

Yes, probably she would blame herself. But then I would give her the advice to think about her reasons why she was with that other man instead of MJ and what makes her think she should have been with him now and not when she had the possibility. There must be a good reason on which she based her decision back then.

Now what if there were lots of women thinking they were his "litdg?" How would all this make them feel? That is another question I don't guess has been talked about and everyone has valid emotions.

If they all had good reasons to believe they may have been the one and all knew of another I think they would either have a big catfight or sit down and talk :lol: I could imagine that talking would help them a lot, I'm sure they would share a lot of the same amotions since they would all be in the very same situation. Maybe it would also help them to know that they maybe even never were the LITD girl and therefore a lot of sadness that it didn't work out between them could be removed. The chances it was them would be much less anyway with so many girls.
 
AllOverAgain you said:

"Let's say they never met and therefore never really tried to be together"

And:

"Not that they had regrets about the time they did have together and that they would feel as if it would have been better if their ways had never crossed in the first place since it didn't work out anyway."

So now I am confused and unable to even try to give an answer:)
 
Sorry for any confusion. Though I'm not sure what exactly you are confused about since you didn't point that out, I have an idea what the problem may be:

AllOverAgain you said:

"Let's say they never met and therefore never really tried to be together"

Well, we had a bunch of reasons listed in this thread why they may have never met in the phyiscal. You said to give an answer I should decide if they or if they didn't meet, that's what I did for my elaboration. But I am not the kind of person who believes in curses or anything likewise so I based my thoughts on more rational reasons, like fear as Shabuya also elaborated in their post. Therefore I would see the repsonsibility of them not having met in this case on either one or even both of them, therefore saying they didn't try hard enough to overcome everything that stood in their way. The "never" may sound quite off but I am of the opinion that if they had really wanted to meet they would have succeeded. Is that the point you were talking about?

"Not that they had regrets about the time they did have together and that they would feel as if it would have been better if their ways had never crossed in the first place since it didn't work out anyway."

Ok, here I worded things really stupid and didn't notice it :lol: When I wrote "the time they did have together" I actually meant the time they spent talking in mysterious ways together. I just don't think that they would ever regret that their ways crossed even if they may never got to be together in the physical or even talk one on one as opposed to through lyrics and the spiritual.

I hope it's gotten more clear now? If not, ask away! Sorry, I'm not a native speaker and these kind of things will probably happen again :p


Yikes, now I got it! Your point was my contradiction :lol: Sometimes I'm really slow, nevermind LOL
 
You gusy are amazing! I almost left but here I am again lol I have to catch up now :) I just wanted to put some of my thoughts here regarding this quote below because I did find it really funny :lol:

If they all had good reasons to believe they may have been the one and all knew of another I think they would either have a big catfight or sit down and talk :lol: I could imagine that talking would help them a lot, I'm sure they would share a lot of the same amotions since they would all be in the very same situation. Maybe it would also help them to know that they maybe even never were the LITD girl and therefore a lot of sadness that it didn't work out between them could be removed. The chances it was them would be much less anyway with so many girls.

I think Michael had "catfight" and all sort of related "craziness" around him constantly when he was alive. I assume that LITD (if she exists) had to be pretty much aware of this kind of situation and I do not think she would want to be a part of it. lol It just does not fit his lyrics concept. That's all I can to say :)
 
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Okay folks, those of you who know me long and well enough know that i don't really play by the rules of the game and whenever i post something in here there ain't much of a connection to what's being talked @ the moment and, amazingly enough, i get away wit it, well almost...with small, but significant exceptions when i'm called out on it. Well, i ain't about to change my colors. Sure hope nobody expects some truly relevant and “current” comments from my shaggy Shabby behind lol.

Y'all betta pay attention though cause i'm about to get brilliant and that don't happen very often, only every two minutes or so lol. Didn't i mention already that i'm not only smokin' hot, so much so that steam comes out of my every pore even in freezing temperatures, but i also have a mind sharper than a razor? And as if that wasn't enough i also have a most wicked sense of humor. I'm soo funny that i laugh at my own jokes, alongside others, of course. Thing is, not only do i make folks laugh, but i can also make them cry, everyone from little boys to grown men, either cause of sheer delight or cause they can't live without my bad self. And on top of it aaall, my modesty and humility are my best assets.

Putting jokes aside and lame attempts at demonstrating that sense of humor which would be the only thing close to reality from all of the above lies, i got a pretty long post comin' up (how surprising, right? looool). Thing is, this time around i'll try to keep my ramblin' to a minimum (whatever dat means in my terms); there ain't gonna be no pictures and no videos either. Some might wonder – what is there left then? How bout some paintings? Not only one or a couple of them, but many, reaaally many.

By pure and simple chance i discovered the work of an amazing artist of Russian origin called Vladimir Kush who now lives in Hawaii. All copyright belongs to him. The pictures i am about to post are taken from www.paragonfineart.com I instantly feel in love with his paintings which belong, according to him, to the metaphorical realism style; i think that is very good definition for his work.

Looking thru them it got me thinkin' of this thread and the possible story behind it, IF of course there is such a creature as the litdg. Goes without sayin' that all that i'm bout to put in here is mere speculation on my part (kinda like them movie disclaimers – any and all resemblance to any real person is sheer coincidence) since i've never met either of the “characters” of this plot, i'm just speculatin' my imagination away. In any case, let's all make this an exercise in imagination and enjoy some beautiful art. I'll be using italics for the name of the paitings, or slight variations of them. Here goes the story i 'saw'.....



Once upon a time, in an atlas of wonder

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the book of books had set aside a story unlike no other between a man and a woman. Theirs was no ordinary love.

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She was a waiting rose

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and he was Icarus who had burnt his wings flying in too close a promixity to the sun of fame and infatuation far too many times.

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When they found real love in each other they felt as though the flower ship had finally arrived in the ports of their lives

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and they had found the keys to each other's heart.

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She was his hibiscus dancer

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his cinderella princess

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and the candle that kept him warm

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and in the music of the woods the love they had was hot like fire

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and they shared the fiery dance cause theirs was a groovy kind of love.

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In the anticipation of night's shelter

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while he was moonwatching keeping her safe wrapped up in his thoughts

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she was sleeping peacefully on her pillow book.

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And after an invite for lunch

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as the tide of time was pushing through the sea of life

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they left the wardrobe, the lion and the witch behind

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cause they got in the way of the morning blossom

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and because they wanted to do things properly in the pursue of lust

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their shells became one and it felt right, just as it should have.

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They thought they had reached the garden of eden

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and its walnut.

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They had reached such a surreal kind of happiness they felt as though they were flying without wings and even though she could fly, she needed his wings and even though she shined in the darkness, she craved the light he brought. There was so much love between them they thought they had sailed away on the winged ship and nobody could come betweent them

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only to discover in the fauna of la Mancha their dreams shattered

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by the green apple of confusion, pride, fear and envy. There wasn't any witch around to be blamed, but they were left wondering – was it ever real, was it an illusion, wasn't it all just in their heads?

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Still...worlds apart, they were hoping for a time when they would once again toast to their time together

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and even though the spiral of time kept them apart for what seemed like an eternity

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they fought to the full top because they knew their love was worth all the pain and heartache.

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And in the safehaven of a place known only to them

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defying the laws of physics they managed to make time stand still for a moment

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a moment long enough to confess to each other their mistakes and the undying love for one another. And although he was the first to stand on his knees, she followed him shortly to the ground in a loving embrace sharing tears of happiness at their renewed joy and blessing.

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But.....the merciless arrow of time came in, shot him in the heart

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and the last time she saw him he was walking though the doors of the neverending night.

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Her heart was broken, almost beyond repair but she knew she had to go on because at the end of the metamorphosis of life on earth

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they would always be together


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in heaven.

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A beautiful story, right? Sad at times, but always enchanting proving that love is not only the greatest show on earth, but also the most powerful force in the universe. And when we are talking about the blessed connection between a man and a woman then it has a power so great that nothing can defeat it - human frailties, less than favorable circumstances, the enemy's deceit or even death.

Vladimir Kush truly is amazing, isn't he? Here's a very illustrative quote from him “Due to political and geographic restraints, i was forced to travel with my mind as a child, and it is this most of all that has shaped my artistic perception and voice, but I would likely never have painted the colors or clouds seen in my paintings if it hadn’t been for the sights of my tropical, second home.” You can read more about his life story and see other works of his at http://www.paragonfineart.com/artists/vladimir-kush.html I bet Asedora will enjoy it ;) nice to see ya back btw.

Y'all excuse the interruption, chao chiao. :cheeky: See you all soon, perhaps a lot sooner than expected or desired. :p
 
Thank you Shabaya, I am already enjoyning it ;) His paintings are so beautiful. I really like them and your story is amazing. I guess it contains a lot of truth.
Thank you for shearing :flowers:
 
I'm sure in any case they/she would feel very blessed, but they aren't/she isn't perfect as no one is and feelings like regret are very human. When things don't turn out the way we would like them to we feel hurt and in addition with that experience other feelings we might not like and aren't proud of. But we do feel them even if we don't want to acknowledge their existence. I see nothing wrong with that, afterall
we are all human
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I think your outlook on the situation is very idealistic
, at least in the way I understand it.
What makes you think they/she wouldn't feel any of that at all
?

With all do respect, Idealistic? To say at the very least...quite the contrary.

All the answer (s) to the question (s) we all seek have always been right in front of us..!

With that being said; "NO ONE" can "EVER" change the past..Reality IS What It Is...And Shall "Forever" be a very big part of H.I.S.tory..!"


Therefore:

As Mr.Michael Jackson so eloquently "lived by" this reflections of thought from many many moons ago...

You probably can't read the words in the note next to the accompanying photo of Michael Jackson, http://www.redroom.com/image/michae...-all-concert-around-1995-photographer-unknown but they were handwritten by the singer himself during the mid 1990s when he was constantly on tour and just as constantly a subject of much public ridicule and condemnation. This note was composed on hotel stationery and, complete with original spellings, grammar, and format, reads as follows:

"like the old Indian proverb says do not judge a man until you've walked 2 moons in his moccasins.

Most people don't know me, that is why they write such things in wich most is not true

I cry very very often because it hurts and I worry about the children all my children all over the world, I live for them.

If a man could say nothing against a character but what he can prove, history could not be written.

Animals strike, not from malice, but because they want to live, it is the same with those who criticize, they desire our blood, not our pain. But still I must achieve I must seek truth in all things. I must endure for the power I was sent forth, for the world for the children.

But have mercy, for I've been bleeding a long time now."

M.J. (circa 1995)


Source:http://www.redroom.com/image/michae...-all-concert-around-1995-photographer-unknown

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Part 1 of 2 of an Undiscovered Michaelangelo: The Journal Of Reflection Of Thought TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE (originally copywritten in 1995)

"Proceeds of which will be donated to two mutually agreed upon prearranged charities"

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(c) 2009

P.e.a.c.e & L.o.v.e

God Bless

As Always

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Wow, Shabuya, beautiful story and stunning pictures. Thank you so much for taking the time to share both! :flowers:


Sdeidjs, I'm sorry but I just don't understand you :no: Why are you posting exactly that quote of MJ? As I understand it it's about getting judged and hurting because of that, but I don't understand the connection here?

And yes, we can't change the past but just because you know in your head that regrets aren't helpful doesn't mean you don't feel any of them in your heart. And I think to act like you don't feel what you feel makes things just worse. Some time ago I tried to do exactly that with another person, to ignore my real feelings and instead wanting to act "right" and feel what was "right" to feel, and with that tried to make myself and that someone perfect. Needless to say that in the end that wasn't very helpful at all as I was just lying to myself and raising the bar too high for myself and that other person. So yes, I still see it as being very idealistic if you think none of them would possibly feel any regrets and didn't wish that some things would have gone differently, just because it's the rational thing (the "right" thing) to do. I'm not saying they definitely would have regrets, but I am open for the possibility. It depends very much on what their situation really would have been, what we all don't know as we don't even know if that girl really exists.
 
I'm sure in any case they/she would feel very blessed, but they aren't/she isn't perfect as no one is and feelings like regret are very human. When things don't turn out the way we would like them to we feel hurt and in addition with that experience other feelings we might not like and aren't proud of. But we do feel them even if we don't want to acknowledge their existence. I see nothing wrong with that, afterall we are all human. I think your outlook on the situation is very idealistic, at least in the way I understand it. What makes you think they/she wouldn't feel any of that at all?

Wow, Shabuya, beautiful story and stunning pictures. Thank you so much for taking the time to share both! :flowers:


Sdeidjs, I'm sorry but I just don't understand you :no: Why are you posting exactly that quote of MJ? As I understand it it's about getting judged and hurting because of that, but I don't understand the connection here?

And yes, we can't change the past but just because you know in your head that regrets aren't helpful doesn't mean you don't feel any of them in your heart. And I think to act like you don't feel what you feel makes things just worse. Some time ago I tried to do exactly that with another person, to ignore my real feelings and instead wanting to act "right" and feel what was "right" to feel, and with that tried to make myself and that someone perfect. Needless to say that in the end that wasn't very helpful at all as I was just lying to myself and raising the bar too high for myself and that other person. So yes, I still see it as being very idealistic if you think none of them would possibly feel any regrets and didn't wish that some things would have gone differently, just because it's the rational thing (the "right" thing) to do. I'm not saying they definitely would have regrets, but I am open for the possibility. It depends very much on what their situation really would have been, what we all don't know as we don't even know if that girl really exists.



"Like the old Indian proverb says do not judge a man until you've walked 2 moons in his moccasins"

Michael Jackson


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Peace & Happiness

God Bless

As Always

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Um, ok. :unsure:

Could you please explain to me in your own words what you mean, Sdeidjs, as opposed to quotes where I can guess what you are trying to really tell me with them? Because I still don't understand you though it comes across to me that you think that I am judging you or MJ for something, but I am not sure for what that would be since I am under the impression that I am not judging anyone for anything. I am just exploring things and trying to understand...
 
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Um, ok. :unsure:

Could you please explain
to me in your own words what you mean, Sdeidjs, as opposed to quotes where I can guess what you are trying to really tell me with them? Because I still don't understand you though it comes across to me that you think that I am judging you or MJ for something, but I am not sure for what that would be since I am under the impression that I am not judging anyone for anything. I am just exploring things and trying to understand...

Idealism/Idealistic: is the philosophical theory which maintains that the ultimate nature of reality is based on the mind or ideas.


Reality: is the state of things as they "actually exist", rather than as they may appear or may be thought to be. In its widest definition, reality includes everything that is and has being, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible.

Therefore,

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Hence: In my/"our" humble opinion...I do not think Mr.Michael Jackson or his Angel would have any regrets..!

If, ANYTHING she/"they" would feel "Very Blessed"~~~ (c) 2009





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Peace, Happiness and L.O.V.E

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Wow Shabuya, very nice picture! Thanks for sharing with us. Also, very nice story line but now you'll have to do a sequel:D

AllOverAgain, I am so glad you got what I was saying because at first when I started reading your post I was baffled that you didn't get me.

When people say regrets I think it gets confused with sorrow. In my mind sorrow is different than regret. Regret hurts for wanting to change things and sorrow in my opinion simply exists until it is placed aside.

If she exists I am sure both of them likely felt sorrow for not spending more time together but I don't think they would change the past if they could because I think they both would believe God would work things out for them and maybe everything was all part of His divine plan.
 
Sdeidjs, thanks for trying again but I will give up on trying to understand your point. Your posts get only more complicated and confusing for me.

If she exists I am sure both of them likely felt sorrow for not spending more time together but I don't think they would change the past if they could because I think they both would believe God would work things out for them and maybe everything was all part of His divine plan.

Lol! That's what I've been trying to say all along, just that I was struggling to explain it in one passage while you could perfectly write it down in just one sentence. Well done! :)


Maybe this just isn't the right place for me to discuss with other people. I notice I have a too hard time to get someone's post as I have to explain my own points. I think I will go back to just observing what everyone else comes up with, funny enough that's when I've always gotten everyone's posts without any problems. Who knows what reason is behind that, I have my guess... Much love! :flowers:
 
Um? Okay.

So who was talking about cat fights? Would you ladies really fight her if MJ really had a litdg? Wouldn't that be fighting him asw well?

I wonder how many women think they should be with MJ and how would they know they were "the one" or not "the one."

How many guys are heartbroken wanting to be "the one" for them?

Do you ladies think that a lady who had never met MJ should not have dated any guys since she was waiting for the man himself or should she have lived her life and go out on dates until fate interviened?
 
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Um? Okay.

So who was talking about cat fights? Would you ladies really fight her if MJ really had a litdg? Wouldn't that be fighting him asw well?

I wonder how many women think they should be with MJ and how would they know they were "the one" or not "the one."

How many guys are heartbroken wanting to be "the one" for them?

Do you ladies think that a lady who had never met MJ should not have dated any guys since she was waiting for the man himself or should she have lived her life and go out on dates until fate interviened?



i wouldnt fight her- her relationship with mj would not have been any of my business. If he was happy for her and truly loved & repescted each other i would have totally happy for them.

The reason why i have no repesct for LMP is mainly coz of her backstabbing and lack of repesct for mj.


Well if a lady never met mj i think she should have gone on with her life until fate interviened. Coz the thing is ..what if she never will meet him? If she was the type of woman to wait till lover finds her and if that made her happy -why not.

i guess it all depends on how she felt bout love, life & relationships.
 
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