Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Analogy of HIStory...Past...Present...Future~~~

"Will You Be There" is a song by Michael Jackson which was released as a single in 1993. The song was introduced in the 1991 album Dangerous and also appeared on the soundtrack to the film Free Willy, of which it is the main theme.













"Someone Put Your Hand Out" is a Pepsi-supported cassette single released in Europe to promote the Dangerous World Tour."
















Released by Epic Records on October 30, 2001. The Invincible Album was the first release of new Jackson material since Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix in 1997 and the first studio album in six years since HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I. Jackson, Rodney Jerkins, R. Kelly and Teddy Riley received producing and writing credits among others.

Similar to Jackson's previous material, the themes in Invincible are mainly based on Jackson's personal experiences with fame and media, romance, and social issues.







´In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. Keep hope alive. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. In a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.´Michael Jackson(2001, Oxford speech)

"Allot of people "misunderstand ME" That's because "THEY" REALLY don't "KNOW" ME At ALL...Wash away ALL the fame, fortune, prestige~~~"THOSE" things are "just "THINGS...!"

Mr.Michael Jackson 2009









"Always keep lookin' outside the box..!" Michael Jackson 2009

THIS truly is WHO and WHAT "I" (Mr.Michael Jackson), WE have "ALWAYS" been and WILL "ALWAYS" be about~~~

Mr.Michael Jackson 2009



In Essence~~~:wub:






As Always

:angel:
Thank you so much for that video....I loved it.....I miss Michael..:mello:
 
I love the voice of this man! :wub:
Me too! :wub:



And.....


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English version:

You

I give you my waist
And anytime my lips to kiss
I give my madness
And the few neurons that are already


My shoes arrested
The newspaper in which I write
I give up my sighs
But do not go over


Because you are my sunshine
The faith with which I live
The power of my voice
The feet that way
You, love, my desire to laugh
The I can not say goodbye
Because I can never live without you


If someday you decide
Again to zoom out of here
Close every door
For that you could never leave


I give you my silence
I give you my nose
I give up my bones
But stay here


Because you are my sunshine
The faith with which I live
The power of my voice
The feet that way
You, love, my desire to laugh
The I can not say goodbye
Because I can never live without you

I love this song. :wub:


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Thank you so much for that video....I loved it.....I miss Michael..:mello:

Your very welcome...

Although, Mr.Michael Jackson felt he could not always rhythmically accomplish every desired result...

AND....

Whether many in society realize/realized this or not...HE shared on MANY occasion; HIS thoughts, feelings, trials, and tribulations throughout HIS music, reflections, and poems...

Essentially, he felt it was not that hard to figure out who and what he was all about...

Michael Jackson (c) 2009
Paraphrased by Susie

As Always

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Hey, I was moving my stuff and I found this beautiful pic by David Nordahl and I thought that it represented very well this thread. Michael on his castle for away, mounted on his white horse and his girl LITD *big sigh* (This reminded me Glory of Love, 'Peter Cetera.)

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:wub: Cutest thing, no?

Ok, I know CAMELOT represents Michael and Lisa and maybe Michael doesn't has good things to remember this relationship, well I don't know but let's look at this pic with romantic eyes, let's forget that was to be Lisa. Here isn't Lisa, is his girl LITD ok?. :)

PS: I'm sorry if someone has posted before and I didn't see. I just really like so much and wanted to share it with you.
 
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Absolutely Breathtaking..! How so "VERY TRUE" this composition truly IS..~~~











God Bless Always

L.O.V.E~~~

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let's look at this pic with romantic eyes, let's forget that was to be Lisa. Here isn't Lisa, is his girl LITD ok?. :)
It's sooooooooooo beautiful. :wub: :heart:

I loved your idea. :wild: Well then I'll look at this picture and imagine that I am and Michael together. -_- :shifty: :naughty:

Hey, it costs dream, even if the dream is soooooooo distant and impossible. :blush:

Oh Michael..... *big sigh*




Absolutely Breathtaking..! How so "VERY TRUE" this composition truly IS..~~~



God Bless Always

L.O.V.E~~~

:angel:
This performance is soooooooooo beautiful :wub: and always breaks my heart. :cry:
 
It's sooooooooooo beautiful. :wub: :heart:

I loved your idea. :wild: Well then I'll look at this picture and imagine that I am and Michael together. -_- :shifty: :naughty:

Hey, it costs dream, even if the dream is soooooooo distant and impossible. :blush:

Oh Michael..... *big sigh*

Aw Ash *lol* I love the way you express yourself. You're not afraid of what the other people will think about you and I love it. :D

You know, I'd thought exactly like that :ph34r: :lol:
And you're right, "it costs dream". :lol:
 
Aw Ash *lol* I love the way you express yourself. You're not afraid of what the other people will think about you and I love it. :D
Thanks! :D I learned that not should be afraid of anything in life (never!!!) and I do not really care about what people say or think about me. -_- :coffee:

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:wild:

:D




You know, I'd thought exactly like that :ph34r: :lol:
:wild:

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My oh my, how many wonderful posts and contributions this Chugginton thread has been havin' lately, far too many to acknowledge properly - queen, MP, everybody. It is lovely to see it prosper like this though. :D

Suz, thanks so much for all your vids, especially the Michael W. Smith songs. I just found out today that i am going to see him in concert in a few months' time. It's a dream come true, one i didn't even know i had, but now that it's becoming a reality i am overjoyed at the thought. I am sure his performance is going to be wonderful. He is an amazing artist. Y'all know me – i'm the resident Jesus freak and i totally love it when artists use their craft in such marvelous ways to get their praise on.

Thanks! :D I learned that not should be afraid of anything in life (never!!!) and I do not really care about what people say or think about me. -_- :coffee:

Ash – you keep it up, home girl. I told ya, dontcha EVER change. That's the right attitude right there. :clapping: Obrigado once more for everything.

Lainy – that's a beautiful name btw, cause i've noticed you changed it from Lully – thanks so much for sharing that picture. It is very beautiful and very romantic indeed. It has all the right colors – red, yellow, some silver. I guess the only one missin' to make it complete is the blue. I do got one question though – if that was a Camelot story , who do you guys think Michael saw himself as – King Arthur or Sir Lancelot? Honestly, i wouldn't know in whose shoes it would have been better to walk. Maybe he was Prince Valiant after all, to circumvent all that nuisance of a story between those three lol. Doesn't he seem a bit passive and dominating though looking from up high on that horse of his? Is that all he could do – hand out a rose? Wasn't there a song from Lisa's father that went something like - “a little less conversation, a little more action”? You would have pictured him carrying her on the horse or at least bother coming down from it and do something to her standing on the same level, cause she was his equal after all. He might have been the King of Pop on stage, but at home they were equal partners in an adventure called marriage.

Quite frankly, i don't have much of a contribution to make to the very essence of this thread cause i royally suck at song interpreation (among many other things) and that makes me pretty much useless in the context of the thread, but i would like to venture a couple of ideas nonetheless. I'm sure it's gonna take a lot of space though. Mrs. irrelevant ramble is my middle name, in case yall didn't know it :cheeky:

I wouldn't have any clue of course, cause i am clueless by nature and design and i couldn't possibly know since i've never met the man, but it got me thinking – could it be that Michael felt the need to be needed? I know so many tried to rescue/save/protect him and in the vision of some intellectually challenged people, to be politically correct, he needed rescuing from himself. How come so many saw Michael as this frail, ultra sensitive creature who needed nurturing and protection? He had a mother and they don't make them better than Mrs. Jackson.

Perhaps, maybe just maybe, he needed someone he could take care of? I don't mean in terms of material comfort cause we all know how truly irrelevant that is in the big scheme of things, but simply having a soul similar to his in terms of goals and desires he could comfort and protect? We all have this desire to feel needed. It is felt the most by those who leave the work force and so-called active life. It is well researched and proven that one of the biggest fears and emotions of seniors is the sense of futily, post-modern society leaving them behind and no longer finding use for their experience and wisdom, although there are some improvements being made with professional training programmes targeting them and extending their capacity to be involved. There are of course also the cultural traditions, mainly in Africa and Asia which cherish the elderly and hold them in the heighest of regards. I betta stop this though before I do a complete detour from the topic at hand and come back to the point that I was tryin' to make about one paragraph ago...lol

Btw of King Arthur and the need to be needed – a few weeks ago i saw this cute little movie with one of Michael's best and funniest friends, Liza Minelli. In it she played a 'nobody' from Bronx with whom a soon to be millionaire heir called Arthur falls in love and is ready to give up his inheritance for her sake. One very sweet scene takes place while he drives a car at night and they stop at a red light and he tells her something like – you know, all my life i have had people taking care of me, but if something were to happen to you, i would take care of you. I thought that was one of the sweetest movie lines ever and it made me think of Michael and his girl, if indeed she was a nobody, not that it would matter. I actually have this funny feeling that Michael, in spite of being quite the liberal when it came to social and political issues, he was far more traditionalist and conservative in his outlook on family values than most suspected or cared to admit, depends on how you view this matters. And, from that perspective, it would have been all the more natural for him to seek to protect his woman, in whatever ways possible.

She could have been someone so frail he could break if he hugged too tight, but at the same time she should have been a pretty tough cookie if she was gonna be by his side cause she would have had to deal with a lot of crap from fans and media (part of the job description i guess lol) and yes, even some from him cause contrary to certain beliefs the man wasn't perfect. He must have had his faults and flaws of character, right?

At the same token, wouldn't it be nice if, for once, she would have been the one doing the entertaining? All his life Michael sang and danced, mesmerized the masses with his art, but as it was suggested here in the thread wouldn't it be great to think that she might have sung and maybe even danced for him? Perhaps she was an industry gal, cause we know what they say about people sharing the same job understanding each other so well, maybe she was a complete amateur, in any case i thought that was a lovely thought – if, at least with her, he could put down the mic and the dancing shoes and just enjoy the show for once.

And since i mentioned Asian traditions earlier, here goes a most beautiful music video from the early 90s – Always from Erasure. I remember being totally fascinated by it. I was reminded of it earlier this morn when they played it on tele before the daily dose of Michael vids. I bet some of yall went and 'put' Michael in that role rescuing the damsel in distress lol



The video itself reminded me of Hokusai (a painter from back in the day when Tokyo was named Edo, which would be a few centuries ago lol) and put me in a Japanese mood. I have this weird habit of travelin without movin from time to time and i “visit” all kinds of countries and cultures. Today the destination was Japan, can't tell right now where i'll go next :p





To keep up with my ever random self - before I go, I would have one request from everyone: if you could, please pray for all the people involved in the horrible events which unfolded 17 years ago and which caused immesurable pain to Michael, his family and everyone who loved him.

May his good name be fully and completely restored once people grow a spine and other body pieces that might have went missing or weren't there to begin with.

No matter what - never forget to KEEP THE FAITH cause the POWER that LOVE has makes it right.

God bless you everyone, God bless you. I really mean that, from the heart. Love and peace.
 
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I haven't been feeling very well or up to posting lately (I've been taking it easy), but I wanted to respond a little to your post, Shabuya, for I really liked it. :)

I just found out today that i am going to see him in concert in a few months' time. It's a dream come true, one i didn't even know i had, but now that it's becoming a reality i am overjoyed at the thought. I am sure his performance is going to be wonderful. He is an amazing artist. Y'all know me – i'm the resident Jesus freak and i totally love it when artists use their craft in such marvelous ways to get their praise on.
I am so happy for you that you get to attend this concert of Michael W. Smith! He is not someone that I have personally ever been into, nor do I have any of his albums, but I know he is very popular with those who listen to mainstream Christian artists (I'm just not one who listens to Christian radio, although I had done that briefly waaay in my past). You have a great time! Enjoy yourself!

Shabuya said:
Lainy – that's a beautiful name
that IS a beautiful name. A beautiful name for a girl with a beautiful spirit about her! :)

I do got one question though – if that was a Camelot story , who do you guys think Michael saw himself as – King Arthur or Sir Lancelot?
That's right, this painting is named "Camelot," right? It was so strange, but for a few months following June 25, 2009, there was a song that kept playing over and over again in my head. Actually, just one line really...and I couldn't at first place the song. Then one time when I found myself singing it, Robert Goulet's name plopped into my head and I thought..wait...wasn't Robert Goulet in the play/musical "Camelot?" Is this song from that? Then I had enough info to look the complete song up. The lyric I was hearing so frequently was:

If ever I would leave you...
It wouldn't be in summer...

Of course, we know MJ did leave us all in the summer... the summer month of June.:( But this song from Camelot, If Ever I Would Leave You, somehow I found to be comforting at the time. I think it playing in my head was a little gift to me during that difficult season in trying to accept that he was no longer here with us.

Interestingly, the part Robert Goulet played was Lancelot. He sings this song to Guinevere.

But to answer your question above, Shabuya, as far as MJ and who he saw himself as...wouldn't you think it would be King Arthur?

... but it got me thinking – could it be that Michael felt the need to be needed?
I think that is an interesting thought...I don't think we touched on this yet in here, have we, gals?
Perhaps, maybe just maybe, he needed someone he could take care of? ...We all have this desire to feel needed.
I think it's very possible MJ would have desired that. He was good at taking care of others. He was always there when those he cared about needed him. Even beginning with all his animals at Hayvenhurst. He got up every morning to feed then and check on them...very responsibly. Then it continued like that with his zoo of animals at Neverland. He was there for countless kids he befriended (like Dave Dave), and several adults, letting them know he would be there anytime they needed him. And of course we know how he was there for his own children and his beloved mother. I think, yes, Michael liked being needed and rose to the occasion whenever he was. I believe in one note I came across reading about somewhere he even wrote to someone "let me take care of you." If there was a LITD girl, I would think he would say those words to her. It's part of what a responsible, caring, and giving man would want to do for a woman he loves, because loving her would naturally bring out the "protector" in him.

Btw of King Arthur and the need to be needed – a few weeks ago i saw this cute little movie with one of Michael's best and funniest friends, Liza Minelli. In it she played a 'nobody' from Bronx with whom a soon to be millionaire heir called Arthur falls in love and is ready to give up his inheritance for her sake. One very sweet scene takes place while he drives a car at night and they stop at a red light and he tells her something like – you know, all my life i have had people taking care of me, but if something were to happen to you, i would take care of you. I thought that was one of the sweetest movie lines ever
That IS one of the sweetest lines ever! And a very good example of this.
and it made me think of Michael and his girl, if indeed she was a nobody, not that it would matter. I actually have this funny feeling that Michael, in spite of being quite the liberal when it came to social and political issues, he was far more traditionalist and conservative in his outlook on family values than most suspected or cared to admit
I agree.

And, from that perspective, it would have been all the more natural for him to seek to protect his woman, in whatever ways possible.
Oh...I said basically the same thing above...I guess we concur! Well, you wrote it first, so kudos to you. :D

At the same token, wouldn't it be nice if, for once, she would have been the one doing the entertaining?
I wouldn't be surprised. And there are lots of ways someone can entertain another. Maybe personality alone? or the crazy way she phrases things? or her take on things? She might have amused him in the way she was "just her"...maybe she, without even trying to be funny, could still manage to make him laugh in spite of herself. Ya never know.


Thanks for contributing such a good post today, Shabuya! :flowers:
 
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My oh my, how many wonderful posts and contributions this Chugginton thread has been havin' lately, far too many to acknowledge properly - queen, MP, everybody. It is lovely to see it prosper like this though. :D
You can not imagine how it will be when the new album is released. :wild: >>>>
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I actually have this funny feeling that Michael, in spite of being quite the liberal when it came to social and political issues, he was far more traditionalist and conservative in his outlook on family values than most suspected or cared to admit, depends on how you view this matters. And, from that perspective, it would have been all the more natural for him to seek to protect his woman, in whatever ways possible.
Me too. I always imagined the Michael that way. :wub:


She could have been someone so frail he could break if he hugged too tight, but at the same time she should have been a pretty tough cookie if she was gonna be by his side cause she would have had to deal with a lot of crap from fans and media (part of the job description i guess lol) and yes, even some from him cause contrary to certain beliefs the man wasn't perfect. He must have had his faults and flaws of character, right?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm Frail woman, not the kind of woman for Michael. -_- She would have to be a very strong woman to stand beside him to deal with the world. There are sooooooooooooo many things that I think about it.... :thinking: :blush:



Ash – you keep it up, home girl. I told ya, dontcha EVER change. That's the right attitude right there. :clapping: Obrigado once more for everything.Obrigado once more for everything.
You're sooooooooo sweet. :heart: Thanks! :D And... Portuguese again! :wild:



No matter what - never forget to KEEP THE FAITH cause the POWER that LOVE has makes it right.

God bless you everyone, God bless you. I really mean that, from the heart. Love and peace.
:angel:



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I was listening this song now.... :wub:


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*big sigh*
 
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I loved your idea. :wild: Well then I'll look at this picture and imagine that I am and Michael together. -_- :shifty: :naughty:

Hey, it costs dream, even if the dream is soooooooo distant and impossible. :blush:

Oh Michael..... *big sigh*


Its ok to dream bout being with michael in that way....hey dont we all! :naughty: :lol:
 
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... well I don't know but let's look at this pic with romantic eyes, let's forget that was to be Lisa. Here isn't Lisa, is his girl LITD ok?. :)

Okie Dokie!:) BTW, Lainy (formerly known as Lully! lol!), there's another painting floating around, by another artist, that just may have depicted his LITD. I would post it, but it's a little "indecent."


Thanks Sdeidjs! This, along with Ash's PM, really uplifted my spirits today.

I loved your idea. :wild: Well then I'll look at this picture and imagine that I am and Michael together. -_- :shifty: :naughty:

What!??? You and I will have to take out our swords and have ourselves a duel! To the death! Just kidding! I'll compromise with you. You can be in that pic and I'll be the angel in WYBT.

My oh my, how many wonderful posts and contributions this Chugginton thread has been havin' lately, far too many to acknowledge properly - queen, MP, everybody. It is lovely to see it prosper like this though. :D

Thanks for all of your deep and thoughtful contributions!

That's right, this painting is named "Camelot," right? It was so strange, but for a few months following June 25, 2009, there was a song that kept playing over and over again in my head. Actually, just one line really...and I couldn't at first place the song. Then one time when I found myself singing it, Robert Goulet's name plopped into my head and I thought..wait...wasn't Robert Goulet in the play/musical "Camelot?" Is this song from that? Then I had enough info to look the complete song up. The lyric I was hearing so frequently was:

If ever I would leave you...
It wouldn't be in summer...

queen g, the lyrics to this song are BEAUTIFUL! ...

If ever I would leave you
It wouldn't be in summer.
Seeing you in summer I never would go.
Your hair streaked with sun-light,
Your lips red as flame,
Your face witha lustre
that puts gold to shame!

But if I'd ever leave you,
It couldn't be in autumn.
How I'd leave in autumn I never will know.
I've seen how you sparkle
When fall nips the air.
I know you in autumn
And I must be there.

And could I leave you
running merrily through the snow?
Or on a wintry evening
when you catch the fire's glow?

If ever I would leave you,
How could it be in spring-time?
Knowing how in spring I'm bewitched by you so?
Oh, no! not in spring-time!
Summer, winter or fall!
No, never could I leave you at all!


I wouldn't be surprised. And there are lots of ways someone can entertain another. Maybe personality alone? or the crazy way she phrases things? or her take on things? She might have amused him in the way she was "just her"...maybe she, without even trying to be funny, could still manage to make him laugh in spite of herself. Ya never know.

She'd probably say what my little cousin who just turned 4 would say. He has this little routine he does that he got from his grandma who got it from some movie or something and he does this little haphazard tap dance and then says: "Never had a lesson!" :D

P.S.:angel:ing that you will get better sooooooon!


You can not imagine how it will be when the new album is released. :wild: >>>>
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MP will probably look a little like this ...

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Hey, I was moving my stuff and I found this beautiful pic by David Nordahl and I thought that it represented very well this thread. Michael on his castle for away, mounted on his white horse and his girl LITD *big sigh* (This reminded me Glory of Love, 'Peter Cetera.)

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:wub: Cutest thing, no?

Ok, I know CAMELOT represents Michael and Lisa and maybe Michael doesn't has good things to remember this relationship, well I don't know but let's look at this pic with romantic eyes, let's forget that was to be Lisa. Here isn't Lisa, is his girl LITD ok?. :)

PS: I'm sorry if someone has posted before and I didn't see. I just really like so much and wanted to share it with you.
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Tell me more about that picture! :wild: I never had seen before! What do you know about her?
 
Originally Posted by Shabuya
Lainy – that's a beautiful name
Originally Posted by queen g
that IS a beautiful name. A beautiful name for a girl with a beautiful spirit about her!
Thank so much ladies, you're very kind. :flowers: :blush:
Originally Posted by MysteriousPhoenix
Okie Dokie! BTW, Lainy (formerly known as Lully! lol!), there's another painting floating around, by another artist, that just may have depicted his LITD. I would post it, but it's a little "indecent."

It's ok! we're all of legal age :lol:

Shabuya I love your posts, you always have something good and reflective to add and this undoubtedly was a great post. Thank for it. Well I share the same queen g's thought, I think Michael would be King Arthur, in both the fame of them beauty and wisdom had gone throughout the land..

Originally Posted by Shabuya
I wouldn't have any clue of course, cause i am clueless by nature and design and i couldn't possibly know since i've never met the man, but it got me thinking – could it be that Michael felt the need to be needed? I know so many tried to rescue/save/protect him and in the vision of some intellectually challenged people, to be politically correct, he needed rescuing from himself. How come so many saw Michael as this frail, ultra sensitive creature who needed nurturing and protection? He had a mother and they don't make them better than Mrs. Jackson.
Perhaps, maybe just maybe, he needed someone he could take care of? I don't mean in terms of material comfort cause we all know how truly irrelevant that is in the big scheme of things, but simply having a soul similar to his in terms of goals and desires he could comfort and protect? We all have this desire to feel needed.

I agree. It was really incredible.

Strange because I never saw MJ as a frail man always saw him as a strong man but I think that he needed nurturing and protection. We all need nurturing, we have the need to be useful for someone in special, it wouldn't be different for him.
I'm not saying that having someone in life is all, but is important part, it's our nature. We are not an island, we need to hear from someone special "I love you" even listening it from his mother and his fans sounded different when The Someone says it.

You know, It would be nice if Michael had his girl LITD.

Well, I have no idea what was going on in Michael's head when he requested to Nordahl to paint this canvas selecting Camelot as theme. If his idea was to give an romantic medieval air, sure he got. But what is interesting is how this tale resembled Michael's life, a story magical and tragic. One thing I'm sure, MJ truly had whom he could trust to put the right touch to his gorgeous thoughts on canvas and fits me just to admire.

Thanks for reading my mixed up thoughts. :)

PS: MP now I was curious because I love Art.
 
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‎"From "EVERY" human being there rises a light that reaches straight to heaven. And when two souls that are destined to be together find each other, their streams of light flow together, and a single brighter light goes forth from their united being." Author Unknown

Be "STILL" Our Everlasting Heart And Soul..!






Our "Children Are The Future...WE Are The World...Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~


Ahhh...Unequivocally Breathtaking~~~

God Bless Always

It's ALL For L.O.V.E..!

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Cleveland, Ohio Rocks..!
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All I can say is good thing I like Kermy! Otherwise....man! Overkill in this thread!! That screen-stretching Kermy!!!

Nah, I can't ever get enough of the little guy who sings one of my most favorite songs EVAH! Rainbow Connection!!! :wub:


Okie Dokie!:) BTW, Lainy (formerly known as Lully! lol!), there's another painting floating around, by another artist, that just may have depicted his LITD. I would post it, but it's a little "indecent."
I think I just might know which one you are referring to. And Lisa Marie is not center stage in that one, but off to the side.


queen g, the lyrics to this song are BEAUTIFUL!
If ever I would leave you
It wouldn't be in summer.
Seeing you in summer I never would go.
Your hair streaked with sun-light,
Your lips red as flame,
Your face witha lustre
that puts gold to shame!

But if I'd ever leave you,
It couldn't be in autumn.
How I'd leave in autumn I never will know.
I've seen how you sparkle
When fall nips the air.
I know you in autumn
And I must be there.

And could I leave you
running merrily through the snow?
Or on a wintry evening
when you catch the fire's glow?

If ever I would leave you,
How could it be in spring-time?
Knowing how in spring I'm bewitched by you so?
Oh, no! not in spring-time!
Summer, winter or fall!
No, never could I leave you at all!

It really is a lovely song. :yes:


MP said:
queen g said:
And there are lots of ways someone can entertain another

She'd probably say what my little cousin who just turned 4 would say. He has this little routine he does that he got from his grandma who got it from some movie or something and he does this little haphazard tap dance and then says: "Never had a lesson!" :D
This idea of "her" entertaining him reminded me of something I had been thinking about last week when I had watched some Peter Pan related movies. I asked the question, "What was it about Wendy that made her so special to Peter?" Afterall, he must have visited London loads, and spied into many windows with many other little girls playing or sleeping within. So what was it about Wendy?

It was the way she told stories.

It always stood out to me something I read in Joe Jackson's book that he had published in Germany....he was speaking about what drew him to Katherine. And he said it was the way she expressed herself in letters. Her writing.

Maybe MJ and his LITD girl (if she exists) communicated via emails like Joe and Katherine communicated back and forth in letters. Maybe the LITD girl told MJ stories...creative stories, or even stories out of her own life. Maybe her stories "entertained" him.

Hmmm....



Where's Kermy when ya need him? Oh, Kermy??? :D



MP said:
P.S.:angel:ing that you will get better sooooooon!
Thank you. Not sure this will be over soon, but I appreciate the prayers! :hug:
 
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thanks so much for sharing that picture. It is very beautiful and very romantic indeed. It has all the right colors – red, yellow, some silver. I guess the only one missin' to make it complete is the blue. I do got one question though – if that was a Camelot story , who do you guys think Michael saw himself as – King Arthur or Sir Lancelot? Honestly, i wouldn't know in whose shoes it would have been better to walk. Maybe he was Prince Valiant after all, to circumvent all that nuisance of a story between those three lol. Doesn't he seem a bit passive and dominating though looking from up high on that horse of his? Is that all he could do – hand out a rose? Wasn't there a song from Lisa's father that went something like - “a little less conversation, a little more action”? You would have pictured him carrying her on the horse or at least bother coming down from it and do something to her standing on the same level, cause she was his equal after all. He might have been the King of Pop on stage, but at home they were equal partners in an adventure called marriage.


I wouldn't have any clue of course, cause i am clueless by nature and design and i couldn't possibly know since i've never met the man, but it got me thinking – could it be that Michael felt the need to be needed? I know so many tried to rescue/save/protect him and in the vision of some intellectually challenged people, to be politically correct, he needed rescuing from himself. How come so many saw Michael as this frail, ultra sensitive creature who needed nurturing and protection? He had a mother and they don't make them better than Mrs. Jackson.

Btw of King Arthur and the need to be needed – a few weeks ago i saw this cute little movie with one of Michael's best and funniest friends, Liza Minelli. In it she played a 'nobody' from Bronx with whom a soon to be millionaire heir called Arthur falls in love and is ready to give up his inheritance for her sake. One very sweet scene takes place while he drives a car at night and they stop at a red light and he tells her something like – you know, all my life i have had people taking care of me, but if something were to happen to you, i would take care of you. I thought that was one of the sweetest movie lines ever and it made me think of Michael and his girl, if indeed she was a nobody, not that it would matter. I actually have this funny feeling that Michael, in spite of being quite the liberal when it came to social and political issues, he was far more traditionalist and conservative in his outlook on family values than most suspected or cared to admit, depends on how you view this matters. And, from that perspective, it would have been all the more natural for him to seek to protect his woman, in whatever ways possible.

Oh God you thinked like me! I thinked in this way sometimes. I think sometimes that Michael was so traditionalist and conservative. Look at the marriage with Debbie. Looked like he wants just a ''normal family'', not even loving her they got married. I thinked that this came from his education and religion, then he got married and try to have a commom family bu twhen this didn't work he had to admit that he didn't have a nornal family and that's normal. And of course, one of the most traditional and conservative things in the world is the husband take care of wife and children!
 
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