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I know.... :cheeky:
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We will wait anxiously..... :shifty:
Today, I am with this song in mind:
[youtube]iLi_osYNsOU&feature=player[/youtube] :heart:
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We will wait anxiously..... :shifty:
Today, I am with this song in mind:
[youtube]iLi_osYNsOU&feature=player[/youtube] :heart:
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We will wait anxiously..... :shifty:
Haha! I LOVE this! This picture really gives me an ego boost 'cause it looks like "Thriller" MJ popped himself a big ol' bucket of popcorn and is EAGERLY anticipating what I've got to say! lol!
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This is it... my friend!!! :lol: Waiting for the words of MP.... :timer: .....
With a lot of popcorn!!! >>>
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Legal reference librarians that work at the Law Library and you may have found yourself asking “what is a legal reference librarian?” and “how does someone become one of those?”
There are no strict requirements for the path a law librarian should take. There is no certification or licensing procedure, but we do have ethical principles we follow. Some law librarians have law degrees as well as a Masters in Library and Information Science. Some law librarians have one or the other. One of our legal reference librarians has worked here 14 years after stints in both academia and other federal libraries. One of our legal reference librarians has law degrees from Bangladesh and Howard University. One legal reference librarian was a paralegal for 14 years, a cataloger for 6, and the directed the Coast Guard law library before coming here. Above all, we are all required to have excellent research skills, as well as patience and the ability to adapt to the situation.
All of us provide research assistance and reference services for Congress, the Supreme Court, government agencies, and the public. We answer questions at the reference desk in the Reading Room, as well as over the phone and through the Library’s “Ask A Librarian” service. We also teach and write publications, including articles and resource guides.
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Expounding ...
This line also reminds me a little of "You Rock My World" and the line:
"My life will never be the same
'Cause girl you came and changed
The Way I walk, the way I talk ..."
Yes, Ash, you must BELIEVE in the LITD! She only appears to those who truly believe! lol!
Yes, I was implying a sort of IJCSLY/YANA kinda thing going on.
And about the seeing "your unborn children in her eyes" and him possibly seeing the three he had by other women in her eyes, I meant that perhaps he never got a chance to have a child/children with his LITD, if they were kept apart somehow. But, since they had such a close and powerful spiritual connection, maybe she still had a part when it came to his children by someone else, since that would be the closest she would get to the two of them having children of their own - which perhaps they couldn't since they may had been kept apart so long or whatever other circumstances could have prevented it.
Perhaps God allowed her some privileges in this area like being able to well ... I dunno how to put it, but maybe helping Him "design" them, so-to-speak, pray for them, etc. Maybe this was His way of helping her feel connected to them as well as to Michael.
Perhaps she was even a kind of MITD (Mother in the Dark, lol!) to them, so-to-speak, because ... if she was connected to Michael spiritually, maybe God allowed her a spiritual connection with them as well where maybe she could love on them affectionately like a mother (hugs, watching over them, praying with/for them, etc., maybe they could even hear her whisper to them too, who knows).
This line also reminds me a little of "You Rock My World" and the line:
"My life will never be the same
'Cause girl you came and changed
The Way I walk, the way I talk ..."
And I bet you could do it, too, Ash...but FIRST, you'd have to believe in the LITD girl like believin' in fairies. What if "she" loses her strength everytime someone doesn't believe in her like Tinkerbell?!
Yes, Ash, you must BELIEVE in the LITD! She only appears to those who truly believe! lol!
Yes, I was implying a sort of IJCSLY/YANA kinda thing going on.
And about the seeing "your unborn children in her eyes" and him possibly seeing the three he had by other women in her eyes, I meant that perhaps he never got a chance to have a child/children with his LITD, if they were kept apart somehow. But, since they had such a close and powerful spiritual connection, maybe she still had a part when it came to his children by someone else, since that would be the closest she would get to the two of them having children of their own - which perhaps they couldn't since they may had been kept apart so long or whatever other circumstances could have prevented it.
Perhaps God allowed her some privileges in this area like being able to well ... I dunno how to put it, but maybe helping Him "design" them, so-to-speak, pray for them, etc. Maybe this was His way of helping her feel connected to them as well as to Michael.
Perhaps she was even a kind of MITD (Mother in the Dark, lol!) to them, so-to-speak, because ... if she was connected to Michael spiritually, maybe God allowed her a spiritual connection with them as well where maybe she could love on them affectionately like a mother (hugs, watching over them, praying with/for them, etc., maybe they could even hear her whisper to them too, who knows).
Oh, I get it, I get it, queen g. You don't need to feel you gotta post a "disclaimer" before all of your posts. We all assume that we are all assuming, lol! We just be havin' some fun!:cheeky:By the way, I want to clarify, because I know in the past in this thread it has been felt that some come off presumptious and "know it all-ish," and I believe that in part is because of the wording and we omit words of disclaimers everytime we post (because that can clutter up the text and make the reading more cumbersome).
But, let me just say, that my post above and any of my posts it's just me doing guesswork, for I can't do more than that... for I have never met MJ nor had a single conversation with him. I cannot presume to "know" him. And I can therefore only for enjoyment purposes for this thread, use speculation and a little creative writing and make some guesses, ya know what I mean?
Maybe some who view the thread or even have posted before actually knew MJ and then for them it's a different story, but for most, me included, we don't know him and never have known him, (even if we met him briefly) and we are just having fun in here with our theories. Hopefully it's all for the enjoyment of everyone...for all the romantics out there, and those who enjoy MJ's lyrics and love discussing things about Michael, because it's fun and we care about him. Yes? :wub:
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You know what I think about it. -_-
Now, I just get observing.... >>>
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:thinking:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I think it was for me. lol! :shifty: Well, I'll start believing.... :yes: Thanks for this song. :cheeky:
This song is beautiful. The voice of Mariah and Whitney together.... WONDERFUL! :wild:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I think it was for me. lol! :shifty: Well, I'll start believing.... :yes: Thanks for this song. :cheeky:
This song is beautiful. The voice of Mariah and Whitney together.... WONDERFUL! :wild:
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I think this too. When I hear ''Will You Be There'' I thinked that it was perfect for the trials times.
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Yes, I thought of that, too. YRMW does refer to her changing his world when she came into it. Good one, MP.
But this:
The Way I walk, the way I talk ...
She changed his walk?
In what way? OMGosh, don't tell me he started to walk with major hip action ba-boom, ba-boom, ba-boom and a dangerous-wild one-arm swing ta-boot! But whyyyyyyyyyyy? Why change somethin', Mike, that ain't broke?Let me rest my case:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3LnEnHzso (
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Yes, I thought of that, too. YRMW does refer to her changing his world when she came into it. Good one, MP.
But this:
The Way I walk, the way I talk ...
She changed his walk?
Let me rest my case:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3LnEnHzso (
Ashtanga
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Aww. I'm not sure I for one would really want you, Ash, to start believing in her now...your side of the argument makes things fun. And I really do think you have some things to support it. I was just teasing you. And I wouldn't think the LITD girl would hold it against you. Actually when you think about it, if one knows very well that they exist, yet someone out there doesn't believe they do, they should get a kick out of it. I'd be amused anyway. As long as all along her Michael believed in her, that is what should really matter. If he were to lose "faith" in her, then that would be sad.
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Nice post, 8.7.0.1.g.i.r.l! Good input.
Well hey mj's idol was peter pan and peter pan is a hero
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If mj did have a secret girlfriend/wife maybe they made some arrangment in secret. Who knows, its a possibilty i guess.
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Hi there, Roxa. You've been perusing deep within the thread I see.
This line of thinking does make me wonder about the theory of "her" only being a muse or a fantasy girl. If she was only that, then can we invision him making it through the trial without that support we have discussed her bringing to him... through her being "back in his life" in some compacity during that time? Did MJ truly need a woman in the picture to get him through? Or could his mother's strong faith and support, along with all the prayers from his fans, and his own leaning on God, have be adequate? I know we've touched on this before. It probably comes down to if you believe there was a real live LITD girl, or not, in the way you would look at this. Or maybe there was a real live LITD girl who hadn't had a chance yet to show him she was there for him in the way Will You Be There and You Are MY Life talks about.
But if the latter is the case, then AllForMJ's thinking that these songs are of a prophetic nature.. could still apply. Maybe she was there for him in a way he "knew" post the trial?
However I think this two music is prophetic because talked about the all pain that he passed on the trials and others problems.
I don't feel that he talk about of a woman on Will You Be There, maybe it's possible too. But I always feel that he talked about the people, a lover, the fans and family generally.
In You are My Life he makes the things so strong that I think was real. Because he left the trials and others problems so sad and was possible that he was without hope, force and he couldn't see good things more:
You gave me strength
When I wasn’t strong
You gave me hope when all hope is lost
You opened my eyes when I couldn't see
And so he find her and she brings all this back again to him. Or still, he find her before the problems come in, he walked away from her during and reunited her after! So he says: ''Love was always here waiting for me''. He knew that she will be there for him after all that would happen. He believed in her love for him and trust on her. I think this last one is more pobrabily now in the case of she to be real
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MP, I love your blue text here and how sometimes you use red. Fun. And so you're supplying the PIZZA!
izza: WooHoo! Parteh time in the LITD thread! *napkin please*Secret marriage? Sure it could have been possible. Michael loved his privacy and he respected others desire for privacy as well. Remember in his first book, Moonwalk, he explains that he has had other relationships (friend and otherwise) that the public doesn't know about and would not mention names because he wanted to protect their privacy and understood their wanting to keep that privacy. If MJ and his LITD girl jointly wanted to keep their "marriage' a secret...well, if anyone could pull that off, I think MJ could. If Janet, his sister, could, he could. But keep in mind, with Janet, it was known that she and her husband were friends, and maybe that they were dating...an item, right? I wasn't paying attention to the news or celebrities then so I am going by what I have gathered since.
Ash makes a good point that nothing like this, meaning keeping celebrity relationships a secret, can last indefinitely. What degree Janet's relationship with her husband was actually, was hidden from others, but he was seen around her right? We, in the last few years of MJ's life, or several years, hadn't seen any one girl hanging around him, true? I think this is partly maybe what Ash is meaning...how could we not get a drift of something all this time? The media would be all over it just like everthing MJ related. *sigh*
The other argument, is MJ seems like he would be bursting with happiness after waiting so, so long, for this one girl (if that is the case and the LITD girl exists) and he would be proud and want others to know he had finally found her and she's his. I think there are lyrics to support that he would want it known. Butterflies again with the Eve rap, for one example:
Wanna give her whatever you got
In front of millions make it known whatever the plot
The last thought on this, well, a couple things, is that 1.) he wanted to "make things right". Moddie, I think, had a great post once speaking of how men like to have everything in order first before tying the knot with someone. MJ may still have been in operation "making things right" before June 25, 2009, and 2.) he had too many things in the end there that he felt uncomfortable with and maybe saw others hanging around with evil intent and he no way wanted to pull her in to THAT, but would naturally wish to protect her.
Just some varied ways to look at this.
*is counting to herself, one two three...*
Ash!!! I think you are missing three dots here!
I'm concerned if you don't add them in after your "thinking smiley", you'll stop your thinking right before having a breakthrough and a major brain storm!
*is so worried for you*
Aren't those nice lyrics to really get us in the mood for :heart:luv?!:heart: I think it is so interesting when a man can't get a girl out of his mind. Guys seem so busy focusing on so many things and yet, a girl can still "get in there." Cute, huh, how that works?Ashtanga said:
Hey, yes, indeedy.Well hey mj's idol was peter pan and peter pan is a hero
And I LOVE Peter Pan! I just re-watched Return to Neverland the other day. Man, I want to fly!! I was sitting in my back yard today and I have a very, very tall Eucalyptus tree and I was looking up at it and spying this one branch, and I can't tell you how I hungered to be able to fly up to it and just sit there. Then all the birds in my yard rub it in by flying around overhead and perching on any ol' branch they want. Pffft.However I think this two music is prophetic because talked about the all pain that he passed on the trials and others problems.
I don't feel that he talk about of a woman on Will You Be There, maybe it's possible too. But I always feel that he talked about the people, a lover, the fans and family generally.
In You are My Life he makes the things so strong that I think was real. Because he left the trials and others problems so sad and was possible that he was without hope, force and he couldn't see good things more:
You gave me strength
When I wasn’t strong
You gave me hope when all hope is lost
You opened my eyes when I couldn't see
And so he find her and she brings all this back again to him. Or still, he find her before the problems come in, he walked away from her during and reunited her after! So he says: ''Love was always here waiting for me''. He knew that she will be there for him after all that would happen. He believed in her love for him and trust on her. I think this last one is more pobrabily now in the case of she to be real
Great post, and you remain objective throughout! I think it is very possible Will You Be There is more of a general "cry out" than just a message to one person...but we have often times said in here that something about MJ makes us think he is more than capable of doing two things at once...meaning the song is not about a "her" and is about a "her" all at the same time. If ya know what I mean. I suppose it could be viewed in both ways.
Some think, and I have always been one of them, that You Are My Life was written with his own children in mind; but, I might have been influenced by the situation of when I first heard that song, and that was during the last part of his Private Home Movies. As we know, he chose that song to be playing while he let the world see in some personal video footage, his two little children (at the time), Prince and Paris.
Had I heard that song first on, maybe, the Invincible album... and read along with the lyrics...I probably would have assumed he was referring to a woman; however, right or wrong, the association to his children with that song was firmly planted in my mind because of PHM.
But I think what you have to say about the song is very good. And I think this that you said in particular reaches the heart:
Sweet and lovely. :wub:
MysteriousPhoenix
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I believe this also. I think someone somewhere would have seen and even said something by now if they had had a phycisal relationship. You know how hard it is for people to keep a secret - especially one like that. This is in addition to what I said earlier about my belief that they would've wasted no time "tying the knot" after the trial if they had been together physically during the time the trial was taking place. But, then again, he apparently did have some relationships that no one ever said anything about - like you had said earlier.
I also like what you said about MJ being "proud" of finding love. He said this in IJCSLY also and it shows in the way he just couldn't keep quiet about it (by writing, singing and releasing songs about it).
Another reason I don't think they were together (physically) during the trial, is the song, "Hold My Hand" which was leaked in '08, three years after the trial, in which he sings:
"This life don't last forever, so tell me what we're waitin' for. We're better off bein' together than miserable alone."
And ...
"I can tell that you're tired of bein' lonely ..."
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Secret marriage? Sure it could have been possible. Michael loved his privacy and he respected others desire for privacy as well. Remember in his first book, Moonwalk, he explains that he has had other relationships (friend and otherwise) that the public doesn't know about and would not mention names because he wanted to protect their privacy and understood their wanting to keep that privacy. If MJ and his LITD girl jointly wanted to keep their "marriage' a secret...well, if anyone could pull that off, I think MJ could. If Janet, his sister, could, he could. But keep in mind, with Janet, it was known that she and her husband were friends, and maybe that they were dating...an item, right? I wasn't paying attention to the news or celebrities then so I am going by what I have gathered since.
Ash makes a good point that nothing like this, meaning keeping celebrity relationships a secret, can last indefinitely. What degree Janet's relationship with her husband was actually, was hidden from others, but he was seen around her right? We, in the last few years of MJ's life, or several years, hadn't seen any one girl hanging around him, true? I think this is partly maybe what Ash is meaning...how could we not get a drift of something all this time? The media would be all over it just like everthing MJ related. *sigh*
Hey, yes, indeedy.
Maybe janet gave him tips on how 2 keep the relationship secert
Nah i dont think i wanna fly.....im too scared of heights!
Ashtanga
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Breaking the silence... :shifty:
This is the point. You know, the press has always been very aggressive with Michael and I saw it was getting worse over the years. The press has always pursued the Michael and always took pleasure in dissecting his private life. Privacy is something that Michael loved to keep away from the public eye. To an anonymous person is difficult to blindly trust people to share secrets about the private life, imagine for a public person like MJ? It is true that Michael did not have many reliable people in his life. He had few true friends. I can only think of Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross. Anyone else.
And..... Remembering something important:
:smilerolleyes:
Confidentiality agreement (very common among celebrities), in my opinion, does not work in practice only on paper. No paper will maintain the loyalty and a closed mouth of a person, is consciousness that should never talk about privacy..... and respect that person has for another.
So if it really existed, of course, the whole world would know. This woman would never be hidden and quiet for so long..... I do not believe it. Well, there's more I think about all these things. I better be quiet. :fear:
How I wish have been a friend of Michael.... *big sigh*
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This is the point. You know, the press has always been very aggressive with Michael and I saw it was getting worse over the years. The press has always pursued the Michael and always took pleasure in dissecting his private life. Privacy is something that Michael loved to keep away from the public eye. To an anonymous person is difficult to blindly trust people to share secrets about the private life, imagine for a public person like MJ? It is true that Michael did not have many reliable people in his life. He had few true friends. I can only think of Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross. Anyone else.
And..... Remembering something important:
Does it really work?
:smilerolleyes:Confidentiality agreement (very common among celebrities), in my opinion, does not work in practice only on paper. No paper will maintain the loyalty and a closed mouth of a person, is consciousness that should never talk about privacy..... and respect that person has for another.
So if it really existed, of course, the whole world would know. This woman would never be hidden and quiet for so long..... I do not believe it. Well, there's more I think about all these things. I better be quiet.
:fear:How I wish have been a friend of Michael....
*big sigh**is counting to herself, one two three...*
Ash!!! I think you are missing three dots here!
I'm concerned if you don't add them in after your "thinking smiley", you'll stop your thinking right before having a breakthrough and a major brain storm!
*is so worried for you*
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MysteriousPhoenix
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That's always nice when someone does that!:shifty:
... So if it really existed, of course, the whole world would know. This woman would never be hidden and quiet for so long.....
Do you think, possibly, she could have been more of an "apparition," so-to-speak, or something of that nature. In that case, probably no one in the rest of the world would have seen her or known about her except MJ (if she only "appeared" to him).
When did these types of things start happening to him (if they indeed did). Do we know the true history of Neverland? Maybe the house or the land it was on had something to do with it?
For example, take what he wrote in the lyrics to P.Y.T. 2008:
"I was upstairs, she came and woke me
I was asleep and tired
She came inside, my primadona
The girl is my heavenly prize ..."
What exactly came upstairs that night (or day)? How long had this been going on? What happened just prior to this event happening?
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Yes, I stayed thinkin about this when I read on the post that Will You Be There is propehtic. MJ was talking in two ways.
Yes, I thinked this way too. The it was to children, but I don't know why I feel that You Are My Life was more to a woman! :fortuneteller:
So lovely! I'd like that always there was someone to love him, all the time, after and before the problems :angel: Love is all we need
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concerning hiding affairs, i just found out that MJ and Debbie used to see each other as friends before 1991:
Apocalyptic scene with portrait of Michael Jackson in armor. Oil on panel, signed and dated 1991.
Interview with Cowan, the painter:10. The woman in the white dress: ‘He told me he was seeing this nurse about something and that something magic was going to happen. What was happening was she (Debbie Rowe) was carrying the babies or they were making the deal to do it, so I painted a nurse that looks like an angel.’
Also seen at the back of his interview with Oprah, Feb 1993
http://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/1995-1999-debbie-rowe/#comment-1764
Apocalyptic scene with portrait of Michael Jackson in armor. Oil on panel, signed and dated 1991.
Interview with Cowan, the painter:10. The woman in the white dress: ‘He told me he was seeing this nurse about something and that something magic was going to happen. What was happening was she (Debbie Rowe) was carrying the babies or they were making the deal to do it, so I painted a nurse that looks like an angel.’
Also seen at the back of his interview with Oprah, Feb 1993
http://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/1995-1999-debbie-rowe/#comment-1764
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:read: ............................
You know that artists are very creative and Michael would be unaffected. Just look at everything he did. I write many things and some stories (that are stored at seven keys..... :shifty if other people were read these things I write, they would believe that everything is on paper really happened to me, but in reality did not happen. Everything was the result of my imagination. Things I imagined/invented and/or things I would like that happened to me.
I think that trying to decipher the messages in the songs of Michael and how walking in an endless maze trying to find the exit. lol! :wild: We can try to speculate, discuss, imagine, but we will never know the truth 100% behind these songs. MJ himself is the mystery. lol! :shifty: Everything around him and his life was always a great mystery. Fact. -_- This is exactly why I do not try to decipher these things because I do not know what Michael was thinking, feeling and living in his private world. But that's why I love him sooooooooooooooo much, why I love this mystery! :wild: :girl_in_love: Michael, the mysterious man..... :shifty: :wub:
And the mystery continues.... why the mystery is the essence....... :shifty: :fortuneteller:
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I had never looked closely at these details of the portrait. He is sooooooooo beautiful. :wild: :wub:
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:thinking: .................................................................................Do you think, possibly, she could have been more of an "apparition," so-to-speak, or something of that nature. In that case, probably no one in the rest of the world would have seen her or known about her except MJ (if she only "appeared" to him).
When did these types of things start happening to him (if they indeed did). Do we know the true history of Neverland? Maybe the house or the land it was on had something to do with it?
For example, take what he wrote in the lyrics to P.Y.T. 2008:
"I was upstairs, she came and woke me
I was asleep and tired
She came inside, my primadona
The girl is my heavenly prize ..."
What exactly came upstairs that night (or day)? How long had this been going on? What happened just prior to this event happening?
You know that artists are very creative and Michael would be unaffected. Just look at everything he did. I write many things and some stories (that are stored at seven keys..... :shifty
if other people were read these things I write, they would believe that everything is on paper really happened to me, but in reality did not happen. Everything was the result of my imagination. Things I imagined/invented and/or things I would like that happened to me. I think that trying to decipher the messages in the songs of Michael and how walking in an endless maze trying to find the exit. lol! :wild: We can try to speculate, discuss, imagine, but we will never know the truth 100% behind these songs. MJ himself is the mystery. lol! :shifty: Everything around him and his life was always a great mystery. Fact. -_- This is exactly why I do not try to decipher these things because I do not know what Michael was thinking, feeling and living in his private world. But that's why I love him sooooooooooooooo much, why I love this mystery! :wild: :girl_in_love: Michael, the mysterious man..... :shifty: :wub:
And the mystery continues.... why the mystery is the essence....... :shifty: :fortuneteller:
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Thanks for that!concerning hiding affairs, i just found out that MJ and Debbie used to see each other as friends before 1991:
Apocalyptic scene with portrait of Michael Jackson in armor. Oil on panel, signed and dated 1991.
Interview with Cowan, the painter:10. The woman in the white dress: ‘He told me he was seeing this nurse about something and that something magic was going to happen. What was happening was she (Debbie Rowe) was carrying the babies or they were making the deal to do it, so I painted a nurse that looks like an angel.’
Also seen at the back of his interview with Oprah, Feb 1993
http://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/1995-1999-debbie-rowe/#comment-1764
I had never looked closely at these details of the portrait. He is sooooooooo beautiful. :wild: :wub:
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Well regarding a woman (if there is one) not being able to hold it in and not say things about their relationship (if there was one)... I think it would be stupid of her to talk to media for many reasons so maybe then she would talk to her friends or a stranger. Maybe she could talk of a relationship of someone she loves, but not say the name. Why would she have to say his name? Usually you won't know the person a stranger is in love with anyways. If to friends then there must be a reason they could be trusted or perhaps if things got out that there was a relationship, it wouldn't be believed anyways so it's no big deal. Just imagine someone came here and said they are the mystery girl (it happened in this thread actually) who would believe them? So in that way she is safe. Something like this is unbelievable when it comes down to putting a person in that place we have ..um.. discovered or created here. The place beside him. So there may be a person, and her identity, even if discovered or shared, will always be safe if they weren't together in person for this simple reason of not being believed even if she did "tell all". That's my opinion.