Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Great post MP. :)

I agree, the LOVE and ROMANCE feels lost, perhaps it is now just a story.....:)
 
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Maybe you all have just placed too much to digest at once on my still very broken heart, or maybe I'm just not as "enlightened" as the rest of you. I really, really wish I could be though. It all sounds so very noble. Maybe one day I too will join in your crusade, but for now, I think this is my healing time and not to mention, a time to be still and seek the Lord for answers - something there do not seem to be a whole lot of these days. There are plenty of mysteries, plenty of theories and a whole lot of excitement over nothin', and yet no one has yet to really answer anything as far as I'm concerned, but that isn't anyone's fault.

Hey, my dear, you are very very very enlightened!!!! I fell your light in every word that you write and this light always make me fell better!

I apologize for going on with this rant. To tell you the truth, this was something that was going on inside of me for a while now and was definitely not meant for others to read, but since we're all such a close- knit family I thought it would be o.k. I feel a little better letting it out now for whatever it's worth. I hope none of you take it personally. I'm just a battle-worn warrior, but, hey, us warriors know how to bounce back.
Love You All.

Yeah! And warriors never gives up the fight! ;)

We all love you too! :yes:
 
Wow! Those Michael pictures are great, and thanks.

I'm extremely tired tonight, but will try to condense what I really feel. There is what seems like "real life," and it IS real, but there is also the life of the mind and the spirit, and it knows no boundaries, and that is also "real." Justus said, about the Book of Revelation, "Big fight. God wins." That is, of course, too simple, but I know what she means. God wins, but the suffering is REAL, during that time, for many. How big that victory is, and who is victorious, and how many have to suffer, has so much to do with free-will? I don't know if folks here believe or do not believe in the Book of Revelation? Or in 2012? Might not matter, because facts reveal the trend, and it is obvious. The "date" might not matter, but that a crisis is coming, should be obvious? Do you REALLY understand how important Michael was/is? Really? DO YOU? How could one, small, flawed, and vulnerable, person, generate so much love in others, in a time in history when love is really needed?

Evil exists. Evil is REAL. Some people think that all things come from God, but that would include evil. I can't imagine that God generates evil, so this must have been a force, the counterpoint to light, that always has been. Michael is/was love, and evil's adversary. Right? He was/is as big as that. Uhm, there has only been ONE other person like him, historically? Think about it? Just for a second? Justus? Susie? Anyone? Just think about it?

I have a dream that recurs. In this dream, it is summer. . .again. Michael is in a field or meadow, and there is an adversary. The adversary is a WOMAN. . smallish, youngish, and very thin, with dark hair and eyes, and she is very strong, at the moment. She is stronger than he is, at the moment, and they are doing combat. I dream this, over and over. Is she evil? In part, maybe? Does she have a conscience? I hope so. Does she have a choice? Does she REALLY want to hurt him? I hope not. In the dream, he is weakened, by her. In this dream, I can only watch, like watching a movie. I want to help, but I cannot. She hurts him and captures him. She weakens him, and he is confused, and in pain. This is a nightmare. I am not THERE, in the dream, but only watching. Michael must help himself! I am so afraid for him, because he is not winning. But yet, in my heart, I know love must prevail. Is this woman the personification of EVIL? She might be. Does she have free-will, to choose the darkness, or the light? I hope so . . . . I hope so . . . .

Michael wrote in "Dangerous," about the evil woman, "She comes at me in sections." I've never fully understood that cryptic phase, except that "sections" means unintegrated parts? Chaos, which is the opposite of order, and is the condition of the universe before "order" began. Is chaos evil? It might be.

I'm free-associating here, so bear with me? In some (most) African cultures (I did my Ph.D. research in Africa, ok?) the worst evil, the most serious danger, was portrayed in masks, and in the dance, as a beautiful woman, as some sort of trick. Michael KNEW that ("Dangerous.") One can't TELL by looking if a person is evil, or is not. I believe (cannot prove) that at the beginning of everything, at Genesis, there was L.O.V.E as a force, and there was darkness (evil). These continue to do combat.

I believe that the soul/spirit goes on. Michael still needs our help. Let's choose L.O.V.E., ok?

Justus reminded us of what is possible. I only hope that, in this battle, the necessary sacrifices can be made, and that love can win.

Personally, I'm incredibly psychic, and there is much I cannot say. . . Really. . .

Just, pray, and pray hard, for the good, to win? And I continue to believe in magick, and in miracles?

Vic


When someone prays and asks for God strength to overcome, the Lord him prepares for the victory and sends him exercises that will enable him for combat.
In I Samuel, 17 - David, was just a boy. No one recognized like arms the objects he was carrying in his hands. However, he threw down alone, a giant that a whole army dared not face.

The Lord is preparing his warriors. It's necessary that they being trained in small struggles, so that they do not wilt in the great fighting. So, when the Lord, that prepare them in secret, manifest them to the world, this is offended by not to know their weapons, not to understand how they fight and not to know where they were all this time. Warriors of God are humble like the tears they poured often. If he humble himself and patiently endure the adversities that involve him, God will exalt him and will make him an extraordinary man. Known for the victories in their struggles. His value will be recognized. Then the warrior will see that any struggle, however small it being, was not fought in vain.

Yeah, the suffering is REAL, but the suffering overcome in love, it's fountain of transformation and life, because the love has the power transform the most difficult things in light and easy things. Nothing weigh it, nothing cost it. It not excuse itself with the impossibility, because it believe that everything is possible and allowed for it. Love has the power to transform all the things and unlock all the doors. Just it does shine our talents and who really we are.

If I love, I need you... and it makes me better. If I love, I pass to like more of your voice than mine... Then I shut up for you to talk, and at listen to you I'll be loving. Love makes indispensable people. And the warriors, victorious.


PS:MysteriousPhoenix you are a very, very special person. Enlightened and loved. kiss for you

PS2:Tha I'm glad you're back my friend.

PS3: Sorry, the huge post. I hope that has not been tiring. And thanks for reading! God bless you all.
 
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Yeah! And warriors never gives up the fight! ;)

We all love you too! :yes:
Yes! Our King is a great example. :yes: :wild: Michael always fought hard in every way to get their achievements, goals and successes. And always managed successfully!


Lully, you're very inspired today. Thanks for your beautiful post. :wub:
 
Wow, interesting convos going on. Keep it up everyone. I had a feeling you would all enjoy them images *giggles* I haven't done anything really, the credit goes to the amazing artists who came up with them brilliant ideas.

Btw of whom, Mrs. Music - congrats for your graphic and your charity project.

MP - you have every right to express your feelings, we are one family in here, so of course u need to share your feelings, but please, also remember to keep the faith :)

queen g, simply gorgeous and breath taking video there. Thank you ever so much.

Lully, superb and wise words. Don't even think that post was long, it really wasn't + you had great things to share, so keep it up.


And coming back to the reason for it all - love, here is a video from last year i think, Bob Sinclair's Love generation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-W9inpl6s


P.S. Wow, i see i've turned purple. Don't know how or why, but I don't care, I like it. Just last night I was watching Prince's Purple rain; looks like some of them drops landed over here lol.
 
*Archangel Micha-el. Leader of the heavenly Army. Angel of faith, protection and deliverance from evil. He provides invaluable services to humanity, keeping indefatigably illuminated the Faith Force.
:cheeky:
EDIT: Mrs. Music How beautiful!
I love how Michael is so comparable to the arch angel Michael, it's truly fascinating.
Thankyou for the compliment!

Impressive...Thank You~~~

:angel:Our Children Are The Future...Heal The World...WE Are The World...Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~
Thank you as well!

Wow, interesting convos going on. Keep it up everyone. I had a feeling you would all enjoy them images *giggles* I haven't done anything really, the credit goes to the amazing artists who came up with them brilliant ideas.
Btw of whom, Mrs. Music - congrats for your graphic and your charity project.
Thank you very much!

Yeah, the suffering is REAL, but the suffering overcome in love, it's fountain of transformation and life, because the love has the power transform the most difficult things in light and easy things. Nothing weigh it, nothing cost it. It not excuse itself with the impossibility, because it believe that everything is possible and allowed for it. Love has the power to transform all the things and unlock all the doors. Just it does shine our talents and who really we are.

If I love, I need you... and it makes me better. If I love, I pass to like more of your voice than mine... Then I shut up for you to talk, and at listen to you I'll be loving. Love makes indispensable people. And the warriors, victorious.
Amazing words, Lully....I'm stunned here, really. Thank you.
 
You're so right, tha!

MysteriousPhoenix, I have a song to share with you that I always think of when I am battle worn...(which is a lot!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRNFf3ykQvM

~ Wow, I just saw that a MJ fan made a video with this song but with Michael pics...maybe you guys would enjoy this more. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbLPW0kgTyw&feature=related

In 1984, when Twilia Paris wrote this song and I heard it for the first time on the radio, I was only listening at the time to worship and Christian music. This is why I was not ever aware of the songs MJ was putting out over the years. And so I have had to learn them recently to know what you guys are talkin' about. :) And he writes great songs!

Thanks, honey!
I loved the video! Thanks for sharing! ;)

When someone prays and asks for God strength to overcome, the Lord him prepares for the victory and sends him exercises that will enable him for combat.
In I Samuel, 17 - David, was just a boy. No one recognized like arms the objects he was carrying in his hands. However, he threw down alone, a giant that a whole army dared not face.

The Lord is preparing his warriors. It's necessary that they being trained in small struggles, so that they do not wilt in the great fighting. So, when the Lord, that prepare them in secret, manifest them to the world, this is offended by not to know their weapons, not to understand how they fight and not to know where they were all this time. Warriors of God are humble like the tears they poured often. If he humble himself and patiently endure the adversities that involve him, God will exalt him and will make him an extraordinary man. Known for the victories in their struggles. His value will be recognized. Then the warrior will see that any struggle, however small it being, was not fought in vain.

Yeah, the suffering is REAL, but the suffering overcome in love, it's fountain of transformation and life, because the love has the power transform the most difficult things in light and easy things. Nothing weigh it, nothing cost it. It not excuse itself with the impossibility, because it believe that everything is possible and allowed for it. Love has the power to transform all the things and unlock all the doors. Just it does shine our talents and who really we are.

If I love, I need you... and it makes me better. If I love, I pass to like more of your voice than mine... Then I shut up for you to talk, and at listen to you I'll be loving. Love makes indispensable people. And the warriors, victorious.


PS:MysteriousPhoenix you are a very, very special person. Enlightened and loved. kiss for you

PS2:Tha I'm glad you're back my friend.

PS3: Sorry, the huge post. I hope that has not been tiring. And thanks for reading! God bless you all.

My adorable friend!!! What amazing words! :clapping: Thanks for sharing this with us!
 
Although we all miss Michael very, very much, it is still very important to celebrate the beauty of the life that he lived and not become overwhelmed by his death just because the media attached the word tragic to it. The way that Evan Chandler left the earth was tragic. He saw his end coming and it occurred with the use of his very own hand. Michael did not know he was about to leave. He went to sleep and did not wake up. He thought he was going to work the very next day, but it turned out that the day before contained his last song sung.

Some members of the media spent numerous days for years on end trying to break Michael's spirit as he lived and now they are trying to break his spirit in death. Why they are trying to act like God will not one day say their time is up, is beyond me, but I know one thing... The chances of them going to live in God's house along with Michael will most likely not happen and because of this, Michael has won. He is free of them and all that they have chosen to do to him. He is partying like never before and will continue to do so as his talents are connected to his soul and goes wherever he goes.

Will those that chose to badger him enjoy their moments after life on earth has come to a close? Who wants to bet the answer is no.

Will they be able to come to where Michael is and continue the badgering? I truly doubt that God would allow such a thing to occur. Not in His house.

Therefore, they have not hurt Michael as much as they would have liked to. They have only hurt themselves. Satan is waiting for them to come to where he is and they are not going to like it there. Their false party or what they have been viewing as fun at the expense of Michael's pain will be officially over. When will that day come? Who knows. But, their individual clocks are counting down because no one lives forever.

So, I'm going to pass on to you all...and the Jackson family if it will be of any consolation...something that I received when I went to my Stepfather's wake that took place after he died on June 22, 2009...three days before Michael passed away. It is a poem by E. Brenneman and it is called "His Journey's Just Begun."

Don't think of him as going away--
his journey's just begun,
life holds so many facets--
this earth is only one...
Just think of him as resting
from the sorrows and the tears
in a place of warmth and comfort
where there are no days and years.
Think how he must be wishing
that we could know today
how nothing but our sadness
can really pass away.
And think of him as living
in the hearts of those he touched...
For nothing loved is ever lost---
and he was loved so much.


In addition to saying goodbye to Michael and my Stepfather this year, my family also had to say goodbye to one of my favorite Uncles. We said goodbye him this past September and it was after being at his death bed for close to two weeks. He was tired of trying to hold on to this life after having multiple strokes, diabetes, being blind and also partially paralyzed. I've heard they go in 3's. I guess it's true. But you know what? These were three very strong loving men. I've learned a lot from them and appreciate the time that they spent here being the beautiful men that they chose to be.

Am I going to spend every waking moment mourning their death? Why would I do that? They died one day. They lived many. The many carry more memories than the one. Plus, I know that I will see them again at a later time as long as I am trying to please God with my life.

So, the celebration continues...

After all, Michael Jackson is STILL the bomb and everything that he worked on is still all around us to remind us.

:yes: :flowers:
 
Sometimes it can bring a smile to our face when we think of things about Michael that we loved about him. How about his laugh? Whenever you hear his laugh does it make you light-hearted?

Well, let me tell you...

:lol:

It took me THREE times of seeing This Is It before I caught this. As I've said many times in this thread, maaaaaaan I'm slow!

But the last time I was in that theater watching the film, I, of course, like each time before, decided to stay to the VERY end. And I was just getting ready to watch that last bit before gettin' myself up out of my seat...

and the last part is when you see the "dancin' feet" (see exhibit A below) lol.

michaeljacksonmoonwalkf.jpg


But THIS time, while that is going on I DISTINCTLY hear Michael's giggle! That's right, it is plainly there, and it was as if he was sitting right next to me in the theater doin' it, too. It probably felt that way because you didn't see his face anywhere on the screen doin' it...you just could hear his very fun giggle while watching those dancing feet. :D

There was no way I could possibly leave the theater after that feeling down or depressed. No way. Someone, somewhere, somehow, decided that every person who waited till the end of the credits would leave with the last thing they heard from Michael being...his happy giggle!

How cool is that?

If ya missed it, do look forward to that when you get the DVD. It's guarenteed to put a smile on your face!

Michael, you rock! :hug:
The very first time I went to see "This Is It" I got up and left when I thought the movie was over and then I ended up missing this. But when I went to see it the second time...after someone here mentioned how nice the ending was...I got a chance to hear this sweet little surprise and then I was mad at myself for leaving too soon the first time! LOL

Michael has the most beautiful laugh!
:wub:

I'm really looking forward to getting the DVD. I am going to wear that DVD out!! I just know it!! Guess I better start off with two copies off the bat!
:lol:
 
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So, what exactly is the bottom line with all the L.O.V.E. stuff? Does each letter stand for something, 'cause usually when there are dots between each letter, it means each letter stands for something. Does anyone understand the thing?

I think it's because Michael spelled it out, as in, "It's all for love." And then he spelled it, "L.O.V.E."
 
No, MP...I think you were truly ON TO SOMETHING!!!

They are actually the initials of his LITD girl,


Lucinda Olivia Violet Everson!

Ta-da!

:clapping:


:lol:

Yeah, I thought it was either her or Loquicia Oppenheimer Vernique Evans!

Edit: But what I'm really upset about is that I'm not considered a "Legacy Member" on this board. I guess they don't think I was one of the ones who "did it all for L.O.V.E." If I didn't do it all for love, then what did I do it all for? Gingersnaps?

BTW, I always hated Gingersnaps and I would always get bought those! Why? I also hated when my dear, sweet grandmother would buy cookies. She always bought those cookies that were on sale 100 cookies for a dollar and they were always so dry and tasteless! They were so dry they would like fall completely apart with one bite. And forget about dunking them in milk, 'cause they would like completely dissolve because they were so dry they would just soak up they milk and get so soggy you couldn't hold onto them anymore and they would fall to the bottom of the glass and you would have to figure out how you were gonna retrieve it. Ah, memories! Nothing but the best growing up!
 
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When someone prays and asks for God strength to overcome, the Lord him prepares for the victory and sends him exercises that will enable him for combat.
In I Samuel, 17 - David, was just a boy. No one recognized like arms the objects he was carrying in his hands. However, he threw down alone, a giant that a whole army dared not face.

The Lord is preparing his warriors. It's necessary that they being trained in small struggles, so that they do not wilt in the great fighting. So, when the Lord, that prepare them in secret, manifest them to the world, this is offended by not to know their weapons, not to understand how they fight and not to know where they were all this time. Warriors of God are humble like the tears they poured often. If he humble himself and patiently endure the adversities that involve him, God will exalt him and will make him an extraordinary man. Known for the victories in their struggles. His value will be recognized. Then the warrior will see that any struggle, however small it being, was not fought in vain.

Yeah, the suffering is REAL, but the suffering overcome in love, it's fountain of transformation and life, because the love has the power transform the most difficult things in light and easy things. Nothing weigh it, nothing cost it. It not excuse itself with the impossibility, because it believe that everything is possible and allowed for it. Love has the power to transform all the things and unlock all the doors. Just it does shine our talents and who really we are.

If I love, I need you... and it makes me better. If I love, I pass to like more of your voice than mine... Then I shut up for you to talk, and at listen to you I'll be loving. Love makes indispensable people. And the warriors, victorious.


PS:MysteriousPhoenix you are a very, very special person. Enlightened and loved. kiss for you

PS2:Tha I'm glad you're back my friend.

PS3: Sorry, the huge post. I hope that has not been tiring. And thanks for reading! God bless you all.

Lully, this was a wonderful post, and sooooo true!
 
Here is a quote i made on one of Ape's threads:

QUOTE:
Well this is a good thread. And prophets through the ages have never been accepted in their own land. So it is with Michael.

The message in the music is clear...and the good thing is that many are taking notice and taking ACTION. Can you imagine the smile on Michael's face? There are people who are getting past the "death" and keeping who he is ALIVE. The ESSENCE matters. The MESSAGE matters.

Change starts within ourselves and spreads like fire. The love and the change can radiate out from our very being, and make things happen the world over! You think you are just one little person who can't make an impact? think again! If everyone thought they couldn't make an impact, and waited on someone else to do it, nothing would ever get done. But, conversely, if EVERYONE thought they could do SOMETHING, SO MUCH could get done! This world is dark, because we allow it to be that way. Be the light, and spread it around. MAKE THAT CHANGE! TODAY!!!!!
END QUOTE

The subject of of love isn't just the subject of romance. It is all-encompassing. it is the subject of light, too. I know this particular thread has to do with the romance kind of love, but I am going to continue on this tangent for just a bit longer. :)

See in order for there to be love, of any form, there must be light, somewhere. Most people in this world, by the world's standards, would be in general, considered "good" people. There is of course a Biblical definition of the way people are - "we are all as filthy rags" and "no one is good, no not one", due to our sin nature. Compared to God and His righteousness, sure that's true. But that's not where I am headed with this. :p So back to Light.

Light/Love spreads, as does Darkness/Evil. BUT, fortunately, Light has the power to overcome. There can be no darkness where light floods every nook and cranny of a room. No shadows. The heart can be like that, when we allow it. It can glow, and we can glow right along with it (i.e. "Be God's glow!"). And when Light makes one room glow, thoroughly, it illuminates another, and another, and another. When the heart is absolutely FULL of Light, and Love, there is NO room for hate, no room for evil, no room for bitterness to fester (especially over circumstances over which we have no control). When injustes occur, there is every right to be angry (even Jesus got angry at times), but that passes. When someone dies, especially all of a sudden, we grieve at the loss of the person in our lives, but then realize hey, there is cause to celebrate this person's life! God has perfect timing, even when we don't realize it, even when we cannot explain it. For some people who have passed on, they were soooo full of Light, soooo full of Love, that even after the body has gone, the spirit/soul continues to be active, and the mission continues - only this time, with more freedom. The body gives a lot of limitations to the what the soul can really do. With Michael, this is very much true, and many of you can attest to this. With many other people, the soul rests for the rest of eternity. This is the general and standard way things are done, and how they are talked about.

I told you, some time ago, that Michael found love and light, right here on this board (mjjc as a whole). In more ways than one. So MANY of you here, have such a desire to keep his true legacy alive. This has occured both pre-June 25 and post. Those are the things that truly brought smiles to his face on here. SO much love. Michael is not God, is not Jesus, nor did he ever claim to be. In fact he denied that outright. He knew that people on this earth compare him to Jesus, and he felt that was a category that most certainly did not belong to him. His purpose, as it SHOULD be, has been to IMITATE Jesus, as much as possible. THAT's what draws people to him (and by the same token, makes others despise him), because not only is his heart just naturally full of Light, he USES it and makes it spread everywhere. For some people that takes a huge effot, for others it is a gift from God to have an ease to do that. When it is NOT used, tho, darkness can set in and make it useless. Just as with any gift of the Spirit.

What exactly is my point? I guess it would be that yes there are struggles on this earth, yes there is pain, but ultimately, Light overcomes everything. lol Love Overcomes Virtually Everything. I think it was ashtanga or someone that came up with that phrase. :) And it's true. And if you actually live by that, you can make yourself accomplish things that you never thought possible! Michael sure has! He overcame the odds (and they were many in his life). You know what though, his celebrity both helped AND hindered his mission. It helped in that he was well-known and had money/resources to get a lot done in mass quantity/quality. It hindered in that he was TOO well known and was a prisoner of his own identity almost his whole life. Not being able to go places w/o being mobbed, etc. SO much has a hinderance. There was/is MUCH more he's wanted/needed to accomplish, that it can only be done spiritually in some form.

So, be extensions, of not only Michael's Light and Love, but ultimately, the SOURCE of it, which is God. It matters not if you have no money - you can still make an impact in many people's lives. You have to trust that you can, do what you can, be Light and Love, spread Light and Love, Keep the Faith, etc. We're all connected. Don't wait until the last minute. Time IS running out.

BE the LOVE.
 
Here is a quote i made on one of Ape's threads:

QUOTE:
Well this is a good thread. And prophets through the ages have never been accepted in their own land. So it is with Michael.

The message in the music is clear...and the good thing is that many are taking notice and taking ACTION. Can you imagine the smile on Michael's face? There are people who are getting past the "death" and keeping who he is ALIVE. The ESSENCE matters. The MESSAGE matters.

Change starts within ourselves and spreads like fire. The love and the change can radiate out from our very being, and make things happen the world over! You think you are just one little person who can't make an impact? think again! If everyone thought they couldn't make an impact, and waited on someone else to do it, nothing would ever get done. But, conversely, if EVERYONE thought they could do SOMETHING, SO MUCH could get done! This world is dark, because we allow it to be that way. Be the light, and spread it around. MAKE THAT CHANGE! TODAY!!!!!
END QUOTE

The subject of of love isn't just the subject of romance. It is all-encompassing. it is the subject of light, too. I know this particular thread has to do with the romance kind of love, but I am going to continue on this tangent for just a bit longer. :)

See in order for there to be love, of any form, there must be light, somewhere. Most people in this world, by the world's standards, would be in general, considered "good" people. There is of course a Biblical definition of the way people are - "we are all as filthy rags" and "no one is good, no not one", due to our sin nature. Compared to God and His righteousness, sure that's true. But that's not where I am headed with this. :p So back to Light.

Light/Love spreads, as does Darkness/Evil. BUT, fortunately, Light has the power to overcome. There can be no darkness where light floods every nook and cranny of a room. No shadows. The heart can be like that, when we allow it. It can glow, and we can glow right along with it (i.e. "Be God's glow!"). And when Light makes one room glow, thoroughly, it illuminates another, and another, and another. When the heart is absolutely FULL of Light, and Love, there is NO room for hate, no room for evil, no room for bitterness to fester (especially over circumstances over which we have no control). When injustes occur, there is every right to be angry (even Jesus got angry at times), but that passes. When someone dies, especially all of a sudden, we grieve at the loss of the person in our lives, but then realize hey, there is cause to celebrate this person's life! God has perfect timing, even when we don't realize it, even when we cannot explain it. For some people who have passed on, they were soooo full of Light, soooo full of Love, that even after the body has gone, the spirit/soul continues to be active, and the mission continues - only this time, with more freedom. The body gives a lot of limitations to the what the soul can really do. With Michael, this is very much true, and many of you can attest to this. With many other people, the soul rests for the rest of eternity. This is the general and standard way things are done, and how they are talked about.

I told you, some time ago, that Michael found love and light, right here on this board (mjjc as a whole). In more ways than one. So MANY of you here, have such a desire to keep his true legacy alive. This has occured both pre-June 25 and post. Those are the things that truly brought smiles to his face on here. SO much love. Michael is not God, is not Jesus, nor did he ever claim to be. In fact he denied that outright. He knew that people on this earth compare him to Jesus, and he felt that was a category that most certainly did not belong to him. His purpose, as it SHOULD be, has been to IMITATE Jesus, as much as possible. THAT's what draws people to him (and by the same token, makes others despise him), because not only is his heart just naturally full of Light, he USES it and makes it spread everywhere. For some people that takes a huge effot, for others it is a gift from God to have an ease to do that. When it is NOT used, tho, darkness can set in and make it useless. Just as with any gift of the Spirit.

What exactly is my point? I guess it would be that yes there are struggles on this earth, yes there is pain, but ultimately, Light overcomes everything. lol Love Overcomes Virtually Everything. I think it was ashtanga or someone that came up with that phrase. :) And it's true. And if you actually live by that, you can make yourself accomplish things that you never thought possible! Michael sure has! He overcame the odds (and they were many in his life). You know what though, his celebrity both helped AND hindered his mission. It helped in that he was well-known and had money/resources to get a lot done in mass quantity/quality. It hindered in that he was TOO well known and was a prisoner of his own identity almost his whole life. Not being able to go places w/o being mobbed, etc. SO much has a hinderance. There was/is MUCH more he's wanted/needed to accomplish, that it can only be done spiritually in some form.

So, be extensions, of not only Michael's Light and Love, but ultimately, the SOURCE of it, which is God. It matters not if you have no money - you can still make an impact in many people's lives. You have to trust that you can, do what you can, be Light and Love, spread Light and Love, Keep the Faith, etc. We're all connected. Don't wait until the last minute. Time IS running out.

BE the LOVE.
Amen.
:clapping:
 
Here is a quote i made on one of Ape's threads:

QUOTE:
Well this is a good thread. And prophets through the ages have never been accepted in their own land. So it is with Michael.

The message in the music is clear...and the good thing is that many are taking notice and taking ACTION. Can you imagine the smile on Michael's face? There are people who are getting past the "death" and keeping who he is ALIVE. The ESSENCE matters. The MESSAGE matters.

Change starts within ourselves and spreads like fire. The love and the change can radiate out from our very being, and make things happen the world over! You think you are just one little person who can't make an impact? think again! If everyone thought they couldn't make an impact, and waited on someone else to do it, nothing would ever get done. But, conversely, if EVERYONE thought they could do SOMETHING, SO MUCH could get done! This world is dark, because we allow it to be that way. Be the light, and spread it around. MAKE THAT CHANGE! TODAY!!!!!
END QUOTE

The subject of of love isn't just the subject of romance. It is all-encompassing. it is the subject of light, too. I know this particular thread has to do with the romance kind of love, but I am going to continue on this tangent for just a bit longer. :)

See in order for there to be love, of any form, there must be light, somewhere. Most people in this world, by the world's standards, would be in general, considered "good" people. There is of course a Biblical definition of the way people are - "we are all as filthy rags" and "no one is good, no not one", due to our sin nature. Compared to God and His righteousness, sure that's true. But that's not where I am headed with this. :p So back to Light.

Light/Love spreads, as does Darkness/Evil. BUT, fortunately, Light has the power to overcome. There can be no darkness where light floods every nook and cranny of a room. No shadows. The heart can be like that, when we allow it. It can glow, and we can glow right along with it (i.e. "Be God's glow!"). And when Light makes one room glow, thoroughly, it illuminates another, and another, and another. When the heart is absolutely FULL of Light, and Love, there is NO room for hate, no room for evil, no room for bitterness to fester (especially over circumstances over which we have no control). When injustes occur, there is every right to be angry (even Jesus got angry at times), but that passes. When someone dies, especially all of a sudden, we grieve at the loss of the person in our lives, but then realize hey, there is cause to celebrate this person's life! God has perfect timing, even when we don't realize it, even when we cannot explain it. For some people who have passed on, they were soooo full of Light, soooo full of Love, that even after the body has gone, the spirit/soul continues to be active, and the mission continues - only this time, with more freedom. The body gives a lot of limitations to the what the soul can really do. With Michael, this is very much true, and many of you can attest to this. With many other people, the soul rests for the rest of eternity. This is the general and standard way things are done, and how they are talked about.

I told you, some time ago, that Michael found love and light, right here on this board (mjjc as a whole). In more ways than one. So MANY of you here, have such a desire to keep his true legacy alive. This has occured both pre-June 25 and post. Those are the things that truly brought smiles to his face on here. SO much love. Michael is not God, is not Jesus, nor did he ever claim to be. In fact he denied that outright. He knew that people on this earth compare him to Jesus, and he felt that was a category that most certainly did not belong to him. His purpose, as it SHOULD be, has been to IMITATE Jesus, as much as possible. THAT's what draws people to him (and by the same token, makes others despise him), because not only is his heart just naturally full of Light, he USES it and makes it spread everywhere. For some people that takes a huge effot, for others it is a gift from God to have an ease to do that. When it is NOT used, tho, darkness can set in and make it useless. Just as with any gift of the Spirit.

What exactly is my point? I guess it would be that yes there are struggles on this earth, yes there is pain, but ultimately, Light overcomes everything. lol Love Overcomes Virtually Everything. I think it was ashtanga or someone that came up with that phrase. :) And it's true. And if you actually live by that, you can make yourself accomplish things that you never thought possible! Michael sure has! He overcame the odds (and they were many in his life). You know what though, his celebrity both helped AND hindered his mission. It helped in that he was well-known and had money/resources to get a lot done in mass quantity/quality. It hindered in that he was TOO well known and was a prisoner of his own identity almost his whole life. Not being able to go places w/o being mobbed, etc. SO much has a hinderance. There was/is MUCH more he's wanted/needed to accomplish, that it can only be done spiritually in some form.

So, be extensions, of not only Michael's Light and Love, but ultimately, the SOURCE of it, which is God. It matters not if you have no money - you can still make an impact in many people's lives. You have to trust that you can, do what you can, be Light and Love, spread Light and Love, Keep the Faith, etc. We're all connected. Don't wait until the last minute. Time IS running out.

BE the LOVE.

hi everyone, i am one ,looking this thread many months,but talk less.
to me, michael is the light in the night, he lighted my life, his music show me the way , i had to be strong.
the real life is cool sometimes, i am real too.
but ,why i have come to see this theard so many many times?
cause, i hoped michael could find real love for himself, and i believe, he was happy before he died.and there are many people always believe in love here, from the very begining .
you really did great "job" for michael's love. spreaded to me, and let me believe he really find love unconditional.
though michael passed,
this thread like a light to me, told me going on, thank you all.
though i am atheist,
but hope the god bless you all.
 
Yeah, I thought it was either her or Loquicia Oppenheimer Vernique Evans!

Edit: But what I'm really upset about is that I'm not considered a "Legacy Member" on this board. I guess they don't think I was one of the ones who "did it all for L.O.V.E." If I didn't do it all for love, then what did I do it all for? Gingersnaps?

Yes, you clearly "did it for the ginger-snaps."

Her name was "Lakeisha Oprah Vernelle Englehooter." So now we KNOW. Guess "they" will close the thread, since we finally figured it out? :bugeyed
 
Here is a quote i made on one of Ape's threads:

QUOTE:
Well this is a good thread. And prophets through the ages have never been accepted in their own land. So it is with Michael.

The message in the music is clear...and the good thing is that many are taking notice and taking ACTION. Can you imagine the smile on Michael's face? There are people who are getting past the "death" and keeping who he is ALIVE. The ESSENCE matters. The MESSAGE matters.

Change starts within ourselves and spreads like fire. The love and the change can radiate out from our very being, and make things happen the world over! You think you are just one little person who can't make an impact? think again! If everyone thought they couldn't make an impact, and waited on someone else to do it, nothing would ever get done. But, conversely, if EVERYONE thought they could do SOMETHING, SO MUCH could get done! This world is dark, because we allow it to be that way. Be the light, and spread it around. MAKE THAT CHANGE! TODAY!!!!!
END QUOTE

The subject of of love isn't just the subject of romance. It is all-encompassing. it is the subject of light, too. I know this particular thread has to do with the romance kind of love, but I am going to continue on this tangent for just a bit longer. :)

See in order for there to be love, of any form, there must be light, somewhere. Most people in this world, by the world's standards, would be in general, considered "good" people. There is of course a Biblical definition of the way people are - "we are all as filthy rags" and "no one is good, no not one", due to our sin nature. Compared to God and His righteousness, sure that's true. But that's not where I am headed with this. :p So back to Light.

Light/Love spreads, as does Darkness/Evil. BUT, fortunately, Light has the power to overcome. There can be no darkness where light floods every nook and cranny of a room. No shadows. The heart can be like that, when we allow it. It can glow, and we can glow right along with it (i.e. "Be God's glow!"). And when Light makes one room glow, thoroughly, it illuminates another, and another, and another. When the heart is absolutely FULL of Light, and Love, there is NO room for hate, no room for evil, no room for bitterness to fester (especially over circumstances over which we have no control). When injustes occur, there is every right to be angry (even Jesus got angry at times), but that passes. When someone dies, especially all of a sudden, we grieve at the loss of the person in our lives, but then realize hey, there is cause to celebrate this person's life! God has perfect timing, even when we don't realize it, even when we cannot explain it. For some people who have passed on, they were soooo full of Light, soooo full of Love, that even after the body has gone, the spirit/soul continues to be active, and the mission continues - only this time, with more freedom. The body gives a lot of limitations to the what the soul can really do. With Michael, this is very much true, and many of you can attest to this. With many other people, the soul rests for the rest of eternity. This is the general and standard way things are done, and how they are talked about.

I told you, some time ago, that Michael found love and light, right here on this board (mjjc as a whole). In more ways than one. So MANY of you here, have such a desire to keep his true legacy alive. This has occured both pre-June 25 and post. Those are the things that truly brought smiles to his face on here. SO much love. Michael is not God, is not Jesus, nor did he ever claim to be. In fact he denied that outright. He knew that people on this earth compare him to Jesus, and he felt that was a category that most certainly did not belong to him. His purpose, as it SHOULD be, has been to IMITATE Jesus, as much as possible. THAT's what draws people to him (and by the same token, makes others despise him), because not only is his heart just naturally full of Light, he USES it and makes it spread everywhere. For some people that takes a huge effot, for others it is a gift from God to have an ease to do that. When it is NOT used, tho, darkness can set in and make it useless. Just as with any gift of the Spirit.

What exactly is my point? I guess it would be that yes there are struggles on this earth, yes there is pain, but ultimately, Light overcomes everything. lol Love Overcomes Virtually Everything. I think it was ashtanga or someone that came up with that phrase. :) And it's true. And if you actually live by that, you can make yourself accomplish things that you never thought possible! Michael sure has! He overcame the odds (and they were many in his life). You know what though, his celebrity both helped AND hindered his mission. It helped in that he was well-known and had money/resources to get a lot done in mass quantity/quality. It hindered in that he was TOO well known and was a prisoner of his own identity almost his whole life. Not being able to go places w/o being mobbed, etc. SO much has a hinderance. There was/is MUCH more he's wanted/needed to accomplish, that it can only be done spiritually in some form.

So, be extensions, of not only Michael's Light and Love, but ultimately, the SOURCE of it, which is God. It matters not if you have no money - you can still make an impact in many people's lives. You have to trust that you can, do what you can, be Light and Love, spread Light and Love, Keep the Faith, etc. We're all connected. Don't wait until the last minute. Time IS running out.

BE the LOVE.


So, so very true. Beautifully said.:clapping: And to quote AllforMJ as well lol AMEN
 
hi everyone, i am one ,looking this thread many months,but talk less.
to me, michael is the light in the night, he lighted my life, his music show me the way , i had to be strong.
the real life is cool sometimes, i am real too.
but ,why i have come to see this theard so many many times?
cause, i hoped michael could find real love for himself, and i believe, he was happy before he died.and there are many people always believe in love here, from the very begining .
you really did great "job" for michael's love. spreaded to me, and let me believe he really find love unconditional.
though michael passed,
this thread like a light to me, told me going on, thank you all.
though i am atheist,
but hope the god bless you all.


turthlili that was such a sweet and nice thing of you to post. Especially the ending. :) I see you got as mood 'lonely', trust that you never really are. Although you don't believe in God (maybe just yet), He believes in you. And in any case, the fact that you are here, in this cosy lil thread, means you really aren't alone, you got all of us. :cheeky:
 
Amazing post, Justus! Would you mind it so much if I asked you a few questions about it in the very near future???

Also, queen g, I meant to thank you for posting the song "The Warrior is a Child." The lyrics really hit home and ministered to me. Thanks so much!
 
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