:clapping:Lindaaaaaaaaaaa congratulations for your comment!!!!! You were wonderful! You said it all. :yes:
but this "hit" can also happen in real life! it was like that with my boyfriend and I back when we first met. it was just for a movie.. running around in denial for ½ a year and then suddenly fall deeply in love right on the spot
but now its like.. totally different! :lol: its work work work. and love ofcourse
I love him very much :heart:
but no fairytale anymore!
and thats what I meen is to idealistic about our expactations. because many people leave eachother as soon as that "in-love" feeling ends. At thats really a shame!
opcorn::winking2::wub::wub::wub:I'm wondering how any of you ladies would feel if you were the one he was passionately in love with and he told you "I love you"? Would it feel different to you than it would coming from someone else or would you question the words to mean anything less because of the fact that he says "I love you" to everyone?
Also, I think it takes a very secure woman to listen to other females talk about the man she loves. Especially when those other females emotions are based on non-realistic or fantasy-like thoughts about a man that they have no mind, body and soul connection with whatsoever. It's purely based on the persona of Michael Jackson superstar they see onstage or in videos and on records and not just Michael the very deep passionate intellectual man. Do I think he could fall in love with a fan, sure. Just about everyone on this planet is a fan of MJ or the Jackson 5. But I think the woman would have to have something much more, independence, passion for life and learning, a certain spark about her, etc..I believe for a man that's seen it all over these years, something has to be incredibly special about her. Someday he'll find his forever love, if he hasn't yet already found her.
Ok my thoughts for today LOL.....back to lurking.
I read this quote recently that reminded me of the current topic being discussed about friendship and love.
"Love at first sight is easy to understand; it's when two people have been looking at each other for a lifetime that it becomes a miracle". - Sam Levenson
opcorn:I'm wondering how any of you ladies would feel if you were the one he was passionately in love with and he told you "I love you"? Would it feel different to you than it would coming from someone else or would you question the words to mean anything less because of the fact that he says "I love you" to everyone?
Also, I think it takes a very secure woman to listen to other females talk about the man she loves. Especially when those other females emotions are based on non-realistic or fantasy-like thoughts about a man that they have no mind, body and soul connection with whatsoever. It's purely based on the persona of Michael Jackson superstar they see onstage or in videos and on records and not just Michael the very deep passionate intellectual man. Do I think he could fall in love with a fan, sure. Just about everyone on this planet is a fan of MJ or the Jackson 5. But I think the woman would have to have something much more, independence, passion for life and learning, a certain spark about her, etc..I believe for a man that's seen it all over these years, something has to be incredibly special about her. Someday he'll find his forever love, if he hasn't yet already found her.
Ok my thoughts for today LOL.....back to lurking.
I read this quote recently that reminded me of the current topic being discussed about friendship and love.
"Love at first sight is easy to understand; it's when two people have been looking at each other for a lifetime that it becomes a miracle". - Sam Levenson
:scratch: :doh::lol: :lol: (Talking about killing the romance! :doh: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao And after that question he'd probably be like "Uhm...never mind!". *guy walks away* :lol: :lol: 
so cute ) because the song that started this topic is from that movie right?
On another note, if "she" is going through H.E. Hockysticks as queen_g says, I wonder if it could interfere with his pure concentration on his "here/now", as possibly with "hers" when he was going through his most major challenge.
I'm thinking of the movie E.T. when Elliot drank the beer and E.T. got drunk (
In fact, if that is the kind of 'connection' he has to "her" (his songs do say he can 'feel' her) I'd imagine the goal would be to be together if for no other reason than to diffuse the mystery that might would be adding to any 'distractedness' that could come from these kinds of energies intertwining without physically interacting. Being in the same space at the same time even for a minute could heal any adverse things that all the mystery could create for either one.
Also though, (hitch-hiking on MP's comment about growth, although it was another word used) perhaps it is taking time also because of God growing "her" through any challenges "she" may be facing, and MJ allowing for that with good reason, especially if she is to become strong enough to handle all that I'd imagine must go along with being in his life.
Nevermind being strong enough to listen to females oooing and awwing ... I would imagine that is nothing (maybe even fun for her) as compared to whatever 'struggles' may be behind the scenes of his complex yet simple life which she'd better be ready for as much as anyone can prepare for an unknown of such impact as Michael's life.
It couldn't be something to take lightly or to go into expecting it to be all "roses" and no "thorns" although I would hope her attitude toward life would determine what to view as a "thorn", meaning "choosing her battles" with proper skill because there's no telling what wouldn't be thrown "at" her day to day, moment to moment, year to year.
Oh well. This has been yet another book! :doh:. Oh well, I may as well express one last thought. I'm really struck by the ideas coming up about 'doubts' and 'fears'. I feel the aspect of 'mystery' would account a lot for any feelings of doubts or fears which may exist on either's part just by the self-defining nature of the word "mystery" itself eg., something that baffles understanding and cannot be explained,
so just about any more dimension they can add to this thing would help that aspect immensely it seems to me.
When the day comes that the mystery is completely erased, the understanding that results, even from a simple embrace, will replace any fears or doubts that could naturally exist for him or "her" interacting energetically in spirit without anything in the physical dimension to balance it.
It seems that what is keeping any certainty alive at this point is that which comes from Spirit which is being expressed through cryptic words and music. It has a maddening element as well as romantic it seems, for everyone here lol.
I guess that gets back to the topic of is it his job to make the first move or "hers". I guess the concensus is, its God's job. Perhaps to move either or both of them to perhaps do something which neither of them could or would naturally be able or willing to do, of their own volition. That's my take on allowing God's Will anyway, or at least one take.
I guess I'll end by bringing this back to how the topic all got started ... two songs about true friendship that have been brought out in previous posts ...
"...one sweet night I knew I would see a stranger who'd be my friend ..." ...
... ... "with a friend to call my own I'll never be alone and you my friend will see you've got a friend in me"
and Keep the Faith
Again, that seems to be what this is somehow all about.
( sorry for those who hate "books" and thanks for letting me share) It'll be a while before another one, I promise. :flowers:
opcorn:
I've enjoyed the new ideas in here. Thank you Renata for explaining, and it really does make sense I THINK, what you said. It sounds like it makes sense. I wonder though if the two of them feel sparks despite their close friendship, is that how it would ideally be? No idea really. I like the bringing reality into this thread too. It's nice to see that. (Now I gotta read SOS's posts cause I wrote this before those were posted and didn't post right away)caring enough to stay and fight says a lot about commitment too, to anothers' well-being I mean. :yes: wanting for the person what they want for themselves and more sometimes, because someone close to you can see what is in your way a lot of times, clearer than you can due to being too close to the situation from within, with only your old "story" to draw from as you see yourself through the same eyes that have seen everything else associated with you. Wonder if that made sense
I agree with you too Ashtanga, I especially like what you said here:
caring enough to stay and fight says a lot about commitment too, to anothers' well-being I mean. :yes: wanting for the person what they want for themselves and more sometimes, because someone close to you can see what is in your way a lot of times, clearer than you can due to being too close to the situation from within, with only your old "story" to draw from as you see yourself through the same eyes that have seen everything else associated with you. Wonder if that made sense
Speaking of wanting something for someone else - - I've noticed one theme that seems to recur in a lot of MJ's songs is he sings about "setting" "someone" "free" and taking "her" to all kinds of places she may have never thought she'd ever be going.
Whenever I hear that it always strikes me as very sweet :wub:
Thanks! Oh, yes it takes care of love every day to not let him die, so your name is always alive and accesses. And understand that you are left a little part, people have a life racing and forget to care for the love of your relationship and it is then that the problems begin to arise. No need to do great things, if there is true love, simple and small things can make a big difference as a simple "I love you" every day and any time by out what you feel, say how you love the other person and why it is so important and fundamental in his life, an unexpected invitation to a dinner, a gift, a surprise, a flower, a letter or card with a poem or simple words of love written by you (drop the poet that is within us), a simple phone call during the day and so many other things that may seem silly and stupid to some people, but they make a big difference and has always accesses the flame of love. It is essential you always say what you feel to another, always express your love and your feelings for that question never arises between two or for one of the two, we show how we love.
About the songs of Michael, we have still much discussion, is an endless discussion, when we have something to discuss them with so many messages that they are in, then I think this is the intention of Michael: cause for reflection and discussion about them. :yes:
What is the next song or what the next theme to be discussed?? lol! :scratch:
I am anxious for the next thread...
I think that a big problem can also be if these little things that you do out of love becomes something that you take for granted. Thats something that you can never let happen!
Never take the other one for granted!
:give_heart:
dont you just love psycology! I love to be able to spot through certain things and to know the exact psycological explanation behind a certain behavior. It's very exiting!
this thread has sort of a psycological twist to it dont you think?
