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Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Don't forget it's probable the Estate has access to outtakes of these sessions - there might be even more awesome photos we're yet to see :D
 
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The colored vogue photos are fan photo shops. None was released in color.
 
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qbee said:
The colored vogue photos are fan photo shops. None was released in color.
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thank you for clearing this up dear, there could be 16mm photo's from outtakes in color? possibly?
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Is there a confirmed track list?

I've seen posted an alledged one on fb including Hollywood Tonight original version.
 
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Zakk said:
thank you for clearing this up dear, there could be 16mm photo's from outtakes in color? possibly?
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These are Bruce Weber photos. He tends to work in black and white.

I think the photos are great as they are. I don't think the album cover has to feature necessarily color photos.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

I made a few more album covers:
Feel free to tell me which one you like the most so far (and why) :)


ENJOY!!!

blue gangsta: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mjblueeyebluesagn49jmv2.jpg
STTR: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mjsttrcover7qt25wifn8.jpg
the future: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mjthefuturegold9oj2tg03m5.jpg
color of my soul: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/colorofmysoulco28pc1yzxfr.jpg

and something sweet and funny for everyone enjoying the "wonderful world" ;-) : http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mjwonderfwoccoval0w764g18.jpg
 
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^^ Well, I don't like the photos on "blue gangsta", "wonderful world" and "color of my soul" - those photos by that French artist are so over-photoshopped Michael is barely recognizable on them. The others are great. Especially STTR. That's the best one. I could even see that as the album cover. Such a great pic.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

i personally don't think they'll call it slave 2 the rhythm, that was the illegal version that should be forgotten about.
 
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^^ Thanks for your comments. The photos by Arno Bani are obviously not to everyone's taste. I think the "blue eye" + "silver hand" one are the only photos from this shooting which would be useable for any project and are not unflattering towards MJ like for example the "gold" one.
Less photoshop wouldn't hurt though.

IMO if the album is called "slave", the chance they call it "2 the rhythm" is 50%. I would if I want the title to appear "cool" (see also "2 Bad" from History)
 
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Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Xscape2041 said:
^^ Thanks for your comments. The photos by Arno Bani are obviously not to everyone's taste. I think the "blue eye" + "silver hand" one are the only photos from this shooting which would be useable for any project and are not unflattering towards MJ like for example the "gold" one.
Less photoshop wouldn't hurt though.

IMO if the album is called "slave", the chance they call it "2 the rhythm" is 50%. I would if I want the title to appear "cool" (see also "2 Bad" from History)
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Michael doesn't need anything to make him cool, he is a genius. his voice is stronger than anything like a title of the album, i'd buy it regardless of the title. would be nice if they gave it attention though.
 
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Actually He said for the title to appear cool not to make Michael cool.
 
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Regardless of the title the Estate choose, I'll be happy with 3 things:

*Original versions as Michael left them the last time he worked on the tracks.
*A gorgeous booklet with recent pictures and with the correct lyrics. I want to buy the physical album, not iTunes.
*A stronger promotion for the album. It doesn't matter if it's not no. 1, Michael and BAD25 promotions were so poor.
 
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Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Regardless of the title the Estate choose, I'll be happy with 3 things:

*Original versions as Michael left them the last time he worked on the tracks.
*A gorgeous booklet with recent pictures and with the correct lyrics. I want to buy the physical album, not iTunes.
*A stronger promotion for the album. It doesn't matter if it's not no. 1, Michael and BAD25 promotions were so poor.
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i completely agree with what you're saying, these are definitely the most important aspects of this project for sure.


& @qbee i know what he meant, i was just saying that 'slave 2 the rhythm' would not be appropriate. for obvious reasons...
 
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Xscape2041 said:
IMO if the album is called "slave", the chance they call it "2 the rhythm" is 50%. I would if I want the title to appear "cool" (see also "2 Bad" from History)
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Replacing "to" with "2" does not make it any cooler at all haha (maybe it did in the 90s, but certainly not now). I really hope the Estate don't do that :p
 
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HIStoric said:
Replacing "to" with "2" does not make it any cooler at all haha (maybe it did in the 90s, but certainly not now). I really hope the Estate don't do that :p
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Couldn't agree more!!!

MJ is too cool for 2!! It should be Slave TO the rhytm!
 
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I would be ok with both versions (TO/2).
At least it gives us soemething to talk about while we're waiting :)

For the cover: They also could go a bit "over the top" with a cover featuring this: http://blogs.laweekly.com/stylecouncil/MJ3.jpg
Or an artwork featuring drawings michael did (ornaments, doors, keys,...)
 
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Xscape2041 said:
I would be ok with both versions (TO/2).
At least it gives us soemething to talk about while we're waiting :)

For the cover: They also could go a bit "over the top" with a cover featuring this: http://blogs.laweekly.com/stylecouncil/MJ3.jpg
Or an artwork featuring drawings michael did (ornaments, doors, keys,...)
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1988 BAD World Tour themed, wonderful statue. do you know where i can buy this? it looks fantastic!! they could use a candid photo from 2007, maybe this one? :eek: note: i haven't done anything to this photo, nor has anyone else i don't think. i forgot about this one. haha

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7900/clfh.jpg
 
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Zakk said:
1988 BAD World Tour themed, wonderful statue. do you know where i can buy this? it looks fantastic!! they could use a candid photo from 2007, maybe this one? :eek: note: i haven't done anything to this photo, nor has anyone else i don't think. i forgot about this one. haha

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7900/clfh.jpg
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Wish the face would be clearer on this picture. Something like this would be nice though (the title is just wishful thinking on my part :) ):
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mjphoenixversicrpy9b2105.jpg
 
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HIStoric said:
Replacing "to" with "2" does not make it any cooler at all haha (maybe it did in the 90s, but certainly not now). I really hope the Estate don't do that :p
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Its also very Prince... He uses "2" as much as he can on his song titles!
 
http://www.damienshields.com/exclus...k-in-progress-michael-jackson-album-revealed/

It’s no secret that Epic Records, spearheaded by its CEO, LA Reid, is putting together a new album of unreleased Michael Jackson material. Timbaland spoke about it. Fred Jerkins spoke about it. It’s happening.

One thing that has not been made clear is exactly when the album is scheduled for release. Despite a host of producers, musicians and DJs speaking publicly about their contributions, Epic Records and The Michael Jackson Estate have remained quiet about the whole thing, leaving Jackson enthusiasts to wonder about the finer details – until now!

Dr. Freeze, the man responsible for writing and producing “Break Of Dawn”, a song from Jackson’s ‘Invincible’ album, was kind enough to give me some fascinating insight into the direction of the upcoming work-in-progress project.

“It seems to be coming out in the Spring of 2014,” Freeze told me exclusively.

Many fans had speculated that the new album, like 2010′s controversial ‘Michael’ album, would be rushed out to capitalise on holiday season sales during the 2013 Christmas period.

However, timing doesn’t appear to be the focus with this project. Instead, the focus is on delivering a quality product that all sectors of the Michael Jackson fan community can enjoy and appreciate in one way or another.

The label recognises that delivering a product which will satisfy the appetite and taste buds of Jackson’s entire fan base is likely an impossible task. So, in an effort to at least partially please most of the fans, they’re taking a much different approach; an approach most fans would have liked to have seen taken back in 2010 with the ‘Michael’ album.

The new album, at this stage, will go with a “then and now” / “past and present” type theme, featuring both new remixes and original versions of unreleased Michael Jackson recordings.

“I’m not on the album; just my songs,” explained Freeze, whose unreleased tracks “A Place With No Name” and “Blue Gangsta”, originally recorded by the King of Pop in 1998, will be freshly remixed by new producers for the album.

“Both old and new versions of both songs are on the album to satisfy both sides of the fans,” Freeze revealed.

“Which producers are remixing your songs for the album?” I asked.

“Not sure yet. It’s still up in the air right now,” he responded.

Super-producer Timbaland, most famous for his work with Missy Elliot and Justin Timberlake, believes he’ll wrap up his part of production by the end of the year; and he’s already predicted (prematurely, perhaps) that the lead single will be a song he remixed, called “Chicago”.

“I can tell you the first single is gonna be the song ‘Chicago’ … I think it should be, because ‘Chicago’ sounds like today,” said the producer.

“So last night I heard some of the new tracks Timbaland is doing for the King of Pop… WOW!” tweeted DJ Freestyle Steve, Timbaland’s official DJ, after a private listening session.

“To all the Timbaland & Michael Jackson fans; just know Tim did an amazing job with Mike’s vocals. The world will love it,” he added.

With songs like “Slave To The Rhythm” and “Do You Know Where Your Children Are” being remixed and considered to feature alongside the previously mentioned Freeze tracks “A Place With No Name” and “Blue Gangsta” fans should be in for a treat.

The recently leaked “I Am A Loser“, written by Brad Buxer and Jackson in 2003 (or “I Was The Loser” as its 2008 version is called), could come into consideration, as could tracks such as “Escape”, “She Was Lovin’ Me” and “Can’t Get Your Weight Off Of Me” from the 1999-2001 ‘Invincible’ sessions.

But like Dr. Freeze said; “It’s still up in the air right now.”

Songs you can count on not being included; the infamous ‘Cascio tracks’ – three of which have already been released and nine of which remain unreleased.

The Estate have communicated to fans that no more Cascio tracks will be included on any future Michael Jackson releases following the uproar they caused in 2010 when questions over the authenticity and origins of their dubious vocals were raised by Jackson’s family and fans around the world.

Although “Slave To The Rhythm” is one of the tracks being considered for release, it’s unlikely to appear in the form of a duet with Justin Bieber. An incomplete mix of the posthumous duet, produced by Max Methods as requested by Tricky Stewart (who is currently the president of A&R at Epic Records – under LA Reid) was leaked online in August to the displeasure of many MJ fans.

To clear things up The Michael Jackson Estate, via their mouthpiece ‘The MJ Online Team’, issued the following statement:

“For those who have been asking about the recently posted recording of ‘Slave 2 The Rhythm’ by Michael and Justin Bieber, this recording was not authorized and has been taken down,” later adding, “It is unauthorized and therefore there is no intention to release it.”

There are still major doubts as to whether Jackson’s fans will ever hear the unreleased music that originates from some of his later collaborative ventures, including a three-year period in which he worked sporadically with Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am.

Jackson is said to have recorded just a few songs during his time in the studio with will.i.am, including titles “I’m Dreamin”, “The Future” and “I Will Miss You” as previously cited by the producer.

However, will.i.am has been very vocal about putting out and/or finishing Jackson’s incomplete work. He deems it disrespectful, calling The Estate “parasites” and accusing them of not honoring the King of Pop back when the first posthumous album was being put together.

As a fan, I would personally love Epic Records to release the original, untouched demo of “Hollywood Tonight” – perhaps as a bonus track or iTunes exclusive on the upcoming album. Although a remix of the track features on the 2010 ‘Michael’ album, I feel that the demo version - written and produced by Jackson and Brad Buxer - is so good that fans need to hear it.

Based on the above-mentioned titles alone there is enough material available for Epic Records to release an extremely strong album featuring several hit singles.

Just for fun, I’ve listed my fantasy track list below. The album would be two discs, each with the same songs. Disc one would have the new versions and disc two would consist of the original versions. “Hollywood Tonight” (Original) is a ‘Bonus track’ and would feature on disc two. The “Then, Now” portion of the title is a literal interpretation of the album’s content. “Forever” represents how Jackson wanted to be remembered. As one of music’s few immortals.

Michael Jackson: Then, Now, Forever

1. Escape (New version / Original)
2. She Was Lovin’ Me (New version / Original)
3. Do You Know Where Your Children Are (New version / Original)
4. Slave To The Rhythm (New version / Original)
5. A Place With No Name (New version / Original)
6. Blue Gangsta (New version / Original)
7. I Was The Loser (New version / Original)
8. Can’t Get Your Weight Off Of Me (New version / Original)
9. Chicago (New version / Original)

BONUS TRACK: Hollywood Tonight (Original)

“I always want to do music that inspires or influences another generation. You want what you create to live, be it sculpture or painting or music. Like Michelangelo, he said, ‘I know the creator will go, but his work survives. That is why to escape death, I attempt to bind my soul to my work.’ And that’s how I feel. I give my all to my work. I want it to just live.” – Michael Jackson
 
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you are kind of late on that
 
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Its a good thing we are getting some AMAZING leaks (Dangerous Buenos Aires, Victory Toronto) because it looks as it we are getting absolutely nothing from the estate this year.
 
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rsggamer123 said:
Its a good thing we are getting some AMAZING leaks (Dangerous Buenos Aires, Victory Toronto) because it looks as it we are getting absolutely nothing from the estate this year.
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Technically we got an extended edition of Bad 25 ;)
 
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rsggamer123 said:
Its a good thing we are getting some AMAZING leaks (Dangerous Buenos Aires, Victory Toronto) because it looks as it we are getting absolutely nothing from the estate this year.
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At least we can always rely on the yearly calendar!
 
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rsggamer123 said:
Its a good thing we are getting some AMAZING leaks (Dangerous Buenos Aires, Victory Toronto) because it looks as it we are getting absolutely nothing from the estate this year.
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Relying on fans leaking MJ material, very sad that it has to be like this to be honest.
 
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Pentum said:
Relying on fans leaking MJ material, very sad that it has to be like this to be honest.
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i completely agree with you. btw, is space dance a real track? i've heard it mentioned around some places before, and it was recorded during the invincible sessions?
 
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I don't know what speed we expect releases to be, if we got release at the rate we "want" everything would be dried out by 2016.. If we care to continue having releases for as long as possible.. I would like to keep getting material 10-20 years from now..

This year we got the BAD 25 DVD & MJ ONE.. Yes I want more an faster, but considering there is no REAL new material to work with - we have to be a bit more understanding to slower releases.

Tupac has had only 7 albums released after his death, now this is a guy that recorded non stop. He would record several tracks a day at times, and had sooo much music recorded. Pac has been gone for 17 years, that is averaging an album every 2.4 years..
 
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