God, its awful now. I loved this thread before. Is KO still twittering then? Dont know why I ask really cause it just wont be the same hearing from him working on the movie when Im not even sure how I feel about the movie.
i know we cant discuss specifics of Karens facebook here.. but Kenny clearly knew MJ was gravely unwell.. and sat and watched, hoping for the best
I'm shaking for being so angry
KennyOrtegaBlogTHIS IS IT my peeps. Dedicated to all the believers. MJ, Singing and Dancing on the Big Screen! All for you, the fans! October 09! Peace
12:05 AM Aug 12th from web
October 9???
i know we cant discuss specifics of Karens facebook here.. but Kenny clearly knew MJ was gravely unwell.. and sat and watched, hoping for the best
I'm shaking for being so angry
Can anyone PM me what Karen's been saying on her facebook? I know it's none of my business but I wanna know! As far as I'm aware, Kenny has been a loyal friend of MJ's for years. He seems like a nice guy, and he was the one who was responsible for pushing back that opening date because he didn't want Michael to start the tour without being ready. He seemed to have MJ's best interests at heart. I could of sworn it was him who said he was cutting up MJ's chicken trying to encourage him to eat.
I do think people behind the scenes were worried about Mike - Randy Philips looked very uncomfortable during the video he released with Kenny explaining why the dates were moved - but I'm not sure how much they tried to help him. He was very stubborn anyway and may not have listened to them even if they tried.
As you said, I think people like Kenny may be talking up Mike's health status to protect his legacy. They are fans like us in a way. In the end though, the inevitable release of the police report and autopsy leak will tell us what his real situation was. Also, when the TII rehearsals are released we will be able to see for ourselves if he was ok. If he really was struggling the editors would have to perform a miracle to make it look any other way. I'm dreading seeing that show, but at the same time I won't be able to stay away.
It's success though will be very hit and miss. I'm not certain it will sustain any level of success after the first couple of weeks. If the reviews and trailers are bad, it may not even perform well in the first week. I hope they market it right.
True to a certain extent. Even Karen says MJ last two rehearsals were great and we've had many people say the same thing, so again I don't think Kenny is lying but not maybe telling the whole truth.
And who's to say he couldn't have beat the problem and get better.
Its seems like he really was trying to get it together so I don't necessarily believe he was drugged up/falling apart every single day and the tox reports won't tell that.............
Okay I'm looking over what Karen's was saying on her facebook. So if Kenny was lying all this time about Michael health, then so was Travis Payne and Michael Bearden and all the dancers and musicians. Many of the people working on TII worked with Michael for years. Even Michael Bush was saying how amazing Michael was during rehearsals. The photographer was saying the same thing. What does Frank Dileo have against Michael? Why is it some people believe that he would rather have Michael die, then have him cancel a few shows because he didn't feel up to it? Frank has known Michael for what? 25 years? Surely he couldn't be that careless to let Michael do something he knew he wasn't capable of doing. It just seems strange that Karen was the only one worried about Michael, and all these people who have been "friends" for years could sit there and watch the poor man deteriorate. There are just so many conflicting stories... everybody just seems to be pointing the finger at everybody else.
karens the only one openly saying she was worried... but i'm sure kenny was worried too.. he didnt care enough to actually take action.. but i'm not calling him a murderer
kennys hardly gonna tweet .."o dear MJs losing more weight and I had to cut up his food today" .. or "been rehearsing since april and only had 2 good rehearsals" is he?
all the dancers etc are all being paid by AEG and have to be careful
if people dont want to take Karens word.. i fully understand that.. cos so many people are lying.. but take those fans word. they saw him on 20 June looking SKELETOL and they instantly feared for his life.. and they have the emails they sent on 21 June to Karen as proof
these fans risked being cut off by MJ.. lets not forget they were being allowed around mj quite a bit.. they risked all that cos they were SO WORRIED and noone else was doing anything
karens the only one openly saying she was worried... but i'm sure kenny was worried too.. he didnt care enough to actually take action.. but i'm not calling him a murderer
kennys hardly gonna tweet .."o dear MJs losing more weight and I had to cut up his food today" .. or "been rehearsing since april and only had 2 good rehearsals" is he?
all the dancers etc are all being paid by AEG and have to be careful
if people dont want to take Karens word.. i fully understand that.. cos so many people are lying.. but take those fans word. they saw him on 20 June looking SKELETOL and they instantly feared for his life.. and they have the emails they sent on 21 June to Karen as proof
these fans risked being cut off by MJ.. lets not forget they were being allowed around mj quite a bit.. they risked all that cos they were SO WORRIED and noone else was doing anything
Didn't AEG or Kenny say that they had to literally HIRE someone to remind him to eat? I really think they were worried too and were trying to help him, but Karen makes it sound like they weren't doing a thing.
On the 'This Is It' clip that was being shown on our TV screens he looked ILL imo
On the 'This Is It' clip that was being shown on our TV screens he looked ILL imo