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Thriller 40th Anniversary

Dorian said:
I doubt this is happening lol.

We got no more copyrighted songs, right? So it might be a new one.

I think it's sad Michael destroyed relationships with people during his lifetime (Paul McCartney, Quincy Jones, Sony, etc). If they were on better terms, I think it would be easier to get stuff released.
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Michael??? He was an angel lol? What are you talking about? He was the kindest person in the world! Just remember what Teddy Riley was saying about him. And other well-know musicians
 
Dorian said:
I doubt this is happening lol.

We got no more copyrighted songs, right? So it might be a new one.

I think it's sad Michael destroyed relationships with people during his lifetime (Paul McCartney, Quincy Jones, Sony, etc). If they were on better terms, I think it would be easier to get stuff released.
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Michael did not destroy his relationship with quincy. He always spoke highly of him. It is quincy who started talking shit on Michael after his departure.
 
kai said:
I am very well aware that the vinyl doesn't include bonus tracks..
but with the estate releasing stuff on the second CD which have nothing to do with thriller i feel like i don't want to support that anymore.. so i sent a refund because of that.

Putting CGOOTR and Sunset Driver on it? come on... CGOOTR would even be weird on an Off the Wall release..
they are simply trying to fool us with this.. i am not gonna support this..
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Fact is the estate fools us we know what unheard songs are
 
thiron said:
And thats super exciting! Any guesses?
Thriller, BJ, Beat it obviously.
What else? Making of Thriller would be cool. Motown25 could be nice.
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Yeah idk about 5 but 3 makes sense. Motown wasnt shot on film. Unless they remastered making of (which they should) or they skipped to ghosts lol
 
i have a question, i've been reading some comments around here and i saw that billie jean was recorded in 16mm, and with that, if everything goes well and the original masters are recovered and restored, we would have billie jean with the maximum possible quality 2k, if that proceeds, as billie jean could be one of the clips to be shown in germany in 4k? was the estate using artificial intelligence in the remaster? (upscale), I don't understand much, but it seems worrying if it is, because we already have several "remasters" made by fans on youtube.
 
wichaeljackson said:
i have a question, i've been reading some comments around here and i saw that billie jean was recorded in 16mm, and with that, if everything goes well and the original masters are recovered and restored, we would have billie jean with the maximum possible quality 2k, if that proceeds, as billie jean could be one of the clips to be shown in germany in 4k? was the estate using artificial intelligence in the remaster? (upscale), I don't understand much, but it seems worrying if it is, because we already have several "remasters" made by fans on youtube.
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Just because 16mm corresponds to 1080p doesn't mean it can't be scanned in 4K. It will only be much sharper than a 1080p scan would.
 
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Super excited to see the videos in HQ. Do we think they will make them available physically? Would be such a waste for them not to tbh, if it's only on streaming the compression will eat a lot of the detail.
 
so, the videos will be only shown on that event?? many people can't go..
 
Maxym said:
There may be something I not notice yet when I posted: https://mofi.com/pages/michael-jackson-thriller
(As MJb2 also juste mentionned).

But, only LP and SACD ? And I guess the SACD won't have bonus tracks ?
+ some SACDs releases of Thriller use the 2008 mastering, making them no better than any 2001/2008 CD...

Now regarding MoFi ... yeah I know that should be good work. Though, the only SACD I own and have heard other than Thriller is Bob Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks" MoFi SACD and ... I enjoy the mastering of some random CD of that album better than this MoFi SACD, not sure why... So, good signs, but I'll have to wait until I hear stuff.


PS: Yet another correction to what I just wrote, the posts mention that the MoFi will be master from original analog master tapes. So yeah, sounds like some good attention is being paid to audio quality there. We'll see.
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MOFI had the original tape but because they committed to 40,000 onestep Audiophile vinyl albums, they had to make a DSD 256 copy of the Master Tape. So that they could make enough stampers to meet demand. If the Master and EQ properly it should still be a great sounding Vinyl, although not an AAA album. It should make a fir a good CD and SACD if that's your bag. Me I've ordered the onstep Vinyl copy.
 
Dorian said:
I got you.

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Wow so much compression! killed all the nuances and dynamic range. I sure hope tyhe Double A MOFI mastering doesn't do this
 
Fuzball said:
Mastered from the Original Analog Master Tapes for Superior Sound and Limited to 40,000 Numbered Copies
Putting into perspective the incalculable impact and pioneering significance of the best-selling album of all time – Michael Jackson's Thriller – has never been easy. Though Thriller lays claim to mind-boggling statistics that serve as reminders of how pervasive and indispensable it remains to music snobs and casual listeners alike, its essence always traces back to the greatness, power, and scope of the music. Now, as it celebrates its 40th anniversary, the record that reimagined pop; united audiences; made strides towards achieving racial equality; established the video as an artistic and commercial format; and taught the world how to dance sounds even more invigorating than it did during the advent of the Walkman.
  1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
  2. Baby Be Mine
  3. The Girl Is Mine
  4. Thriller
  5. Beat It
  6. Billie Jean
  7. Human Nature
  8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
  9. The Lady in My Life

Mastered from the original analog master tapes, pressed at RTI, and limited to 40,000 numbered copies, Mobile Fidelity's UltraDisc One-Step 180g 33RPM LP set does for Thriller what Jackson's unforgettable appearance on the "Motown 25" TV special in 1983 did for his career: It makes the music personal, human, desirable, relatable, imaginative – the definition of cool. This extraordinary reissue does so by presenting the songs in lifelike fashion, zeroing in on the fundamentals with laser focus, and magnifying the brilliance of the production, arrangements, and vocals in ways that let everyone experience Thriller as if hearing the album for the first time.

Surpassing the sonics of earlier reissues and pressings, Mobile Fidelity's 180g LP set strips away prior limitations and provides a clear, dynamic view of a landmark that crashed through every conceivable barrier and permanently transformed music, culture, and society. The expanse and depth of the soundstage, range of detail, percussive textures, air around the vocals, and natural decay of notes come through with demonstration-grade realism.

The gorgeous packaging of the Thriller UD1S pressing befits the album's select status. Housed in an open-ended slipcase, the set features a special foil-stamped jacket and faithful-to-the-original graphics that illuminate the splendor of the recording. Aurally and visually, this reissue exists as a curatorial artifact meant to be preserved and examined. It is made for discerning listeners that prize sound quality and production, and who desire to fully immerse themselves in everything involved with the album.

Given that no album released during the past four decades even approaches the magnitude of Thriller, everything about it remains important. Numbers – even the "40" tied to its anniversary – don't even tell half the story. The 1982 blockbuster has sold more than 34 million copies in the U.S.; globally, it has moved upwards of 70 million units. Thriller dominated the 1984 Grammy Awards, winning a record-breaking eight trophies and sweeping every major category. It repeated the feat at the American Music Awards. Seven of its nine songs were released as singles; each charted in the Top 10. Perhaps most astonishingly, Thriller topped the Top 200 Albums chart for 37 weeks during a 59-week stretch. Fast forward 24 years, and the album was the biggest-selling catalog title of 2008.

The record's unimpeachable accolades and archival standing help provide another frame of reference. Acclaimed upon arrival, Thriller topped The Village Voice's comprehensive Pazz & Jop poll in 1983. Included in both the Library of Congress' National Recording Registry and the Grammy Hall of Fame, Thriller was ranked by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at No. 3 on its Definitive 200 Albums of All Time. Rolling Stone named it the 12th Greatest Album of All Time. TIME deemed it "the greatest pop album of all time." The Independent called it "the most inspiring album of all time."

Thriller proved as influential as it did inspiring. Its unparalleled success, dazzling style, and sleek architecture changed every facet of culture and entertainment. The reverberations echoed throughout society. Thriller crossed over to mainstream channels and white audiences with a degree that no Black musician managed in decades (if ever); prompted MTV to give Black artists a widespread platform; elevated choreography and dance to higher-level artforms; shattered long-standing racial boundaries; and reconceptualized music via a genre- and color-blind blend of fleet pop, funk, disco, soul, and rock sent up with cinematic panache, oversized ambition, and dynamic energy.

Its effect on multitudes of subsequent artists cannot be overstated. Thriller opened up a new galaxy in which Prince soon strolled. It's the same universe that Usher, Maxwell, and Jamiroquai joined in the ‘90s and that contemporary headliners like Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, and Bruno Mars orbit today. Their style-blurring identities, R&B-rooted foundations, and interdisciplinary approaches directly link to those on Thriller. Notably, the album's first single – "The Girl Is Mine," a duet and co-write with Beatles legend Paul McCartney – captured the record's unwillingness to cater to a specific race, generation, class, or style. Eddie Van Halen – at the time, the world's premier rock guitarist – performed a similar bridge role by supplying the electrifying solo on "Beat It."

Jackson, Quincy Jones, and company do the rest. Drop the needle on any track on Thriller and the insatiable desire to move takes hold. So do sensations of familiarity, pleasure, fun, and soulfulness. Be it the breathless, bass-laden swagger of the Moonwalking "Billie Jean"; horn-accented, post-disco slide of the gossip critique "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"; rousing tempo of the lush, sequin-adorned "P. Y. T. (Pretty Young Thing)"; gentle balladry and liquid vocal phrasing of "Human Nature"; vivid hybrid of funk-disco and horror-film drama of the title track; or streetwise strut and rhythmic fantasia of "Beat It," Thriller never lets up.

"It's close to midnight..."

More About Mobile Fidelity UltraDisc One-Step and Why It Is Superior
Instead of utilizing the industry-standard three-step lacquer process, Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab's new UltraDisc One-Step (UD1S) uses only one step, bypassing two processes of generational loss. While three-step processing is designed for optimum yield and efficiency, UD1S is created for the ultimate in sound quality. Just as Mobile Fidelity pioneered the UHQR (Ultra High-Quality Record) with JVC in the 1980s, UD1S again represents another state-of-the-art advance in the record-manufacturing process. MFSL engineers begin with the original master tapes and meticulously cut a set of lacquers. These lacquers are used to create a very fragile, pristine UD1S stamper called a "convert." Delicate "converts" are then formed into the actual record stampers, producing a final product that literally and figuratively brings you closer to the music. By skipping the additional steps of pulling another positive and an additional negative, as done in the three-step process used in standard pressings, UD1S produces a final LP with the lowest noise floor possible today. The removal of the additional two steps of generational loss in the plating process reveals tremendous amounts of extra musical detail and dynamics, which are otherwise lost due to the standard copying process. The exclusive nature of these very limited pressings guarantees that every UD1S pressing serves as an immaculate replica of the lacquer sourced directly from the original master tape. Every conceivable aspect of vinyl production is optimized to produce the most perfect record album available today.
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It should sound great but they should have been honest about all analogue mastering, it is not and could never be AAA . Sony would never allow 40,000 onestep as it would likely degrade the tape catastrophically MOFI took a DSD-256 copy of the Master and that's what they will use to make the vinyl onsteps, SACD and CD. That's OK if the Master and EQ with as little compression as possible but triple A it is not and they should have been clear with us, that's all I'm pissed about. I preordered the onstep vinyl and won't cancel as its Iconic and I hope will sound great despite the digital conversion.
 
nubia8 said:
It should sound great but they should have been honest about all analogue mastering, it is not and could never be AAA . Sony would never allow 40,000 onestep as it would likely degrade the tape catastrophically MOFI took a DSD-256 copy of the Master and that's what they will use to make the vinyl onsteps, SACD and CD. That's OK if the Master and EQ with as little compression as possible but triple A it is not and they should have been clear with us, that's all I'm pissed about. I preordered the onstep vinyl and won't cancel as its Iconic and I hope will sound great despite the digital conversion.
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According to MoFi themselves, the DSD is made as a 1:1 copy of the original analog master and kept untouched for the vinyl and CD.
 
nubia8 said:
It should sound great but they should have been honest about all analogue mastering, it is not and could never be AAA . Sony would never allow 40,000 onestep as it would likely degrade the tape catastrophically MOFI took a DSD-256 copy of the Master and that's what they will use to make the vinyl onsteps, SACD and CD. That's OK if the Master and EQ with as little compression as possible but triple A it is not and they should have been clear with us, that's all I'm pissed about. I preordered the onstep vinyl and won't cancel as its Iconic and I hope will sound great despite the digital conversion.
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I get being annoyed about the lies but I don't see how it being digital makes it not triple A? Lots of people liked to pretend for years that they could hear the difference between analogue and digital pressings when they clearly couldn't as they've been doing this for years. Being digital does not negatively affect it in any way.
 
I think we have heard the best of MJ and there isn't much really left I the vault other than some maalchi cover tracks.
 
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