I wouldnt call it heated but rather passionate. Everyone is still being behaved and not attacking each other personally.unk:
How is it failing???????????
No, no. Republicans are saying Obama is doing too much because he is. It's part of their party's principles that the government should be more non-interventionists at least in the economy. And many, many economists agree. It has nothing to do with wanting Obama to fail. If you're truly looking for the fastest solution you will listen to those who say cut taxes, cut spending, then sit around and drink tea and wait it out. Simply look at how this type of crisis has been dealt with in the past and whether interventionism or non-interventionism worked better to recover the economy more quickly.
Obama's not make any sacrifices. A sacrifice that would really pay off in the future would be too freeze spending now, cut taxes, scale back US occupation in the middle east because it's costing too much money. But what he's doing now, spending money he doesn't have, increasing the US empire overseas, that's far from sacrificing. It's future generations who will have to sacrifice for the out-of-control government of the past.
Yes. But I also feel the same way about Kevin Rudd and John Howard, Gordon Brown and Tony Blair. Anyone around the world who increases the size of government, who increase the police state, the control grid, I have a problem with. It's not about being anti-America or anti-anyone, only anti-power.
I never read Corsi's book.
If you believe in person freedom, individual rights and limited government, then it's so easy to see how similar Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rudd, Howard, Brown and Blair are. But if you're someone who's accepted big government and is OK with it, or even wants it to some extent, then the difference between other big-government supporters would seem drastic to you. I don't think I'm painting too broad a brush. If Obama wants to expand the US empire overseas, increase the deficit, spend his way out of trouble, increase or at least leave in place the powers of the presidency, then he's too much like Bush for my liking. That's not a broad brush when you consider the bigger picture. Consider that way down the other end of the spectrum, someone could be withdrawing US troops from overseas, scaling back its "defences" (aggressiveness), cutting back the deficit, cutting taxes, decreasing the size, scope and power of the government. So if you consider that the alternative to what Obama is doing and what Bush did then they are exactly the same.
He labelled himself as "change" when he's not. He's more of the same. He didn't deceive people by promising things that would really be change. But he promised the same things Bush has been doing, that other candidate like Clinton and McCain were promising, but marketed them as really different and unique ideas. Some would call that clever campaigning. I would call it deceit. When you hype yourself up as something different, and people believe you truly will change politics, but really you are more of the same and have no intention of changing any except to continue what's been happening in Washington but on a much larger scale, then that's deception. If you hate the Republicans and vote for the Democrats because you want something different, you've been deceived.
If he keeps 50,000 troops there and withdraws all others by 2011, then he'll be following the exact same withdrawal plan as Bush. But that's change to you?
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$750b :wild:..I have been wondering yet,where that all money went????Well Obama can never be the best President,he has already proved it.And I heard he want Pakistan to support USA againt fight against terrorism just like Bush which really made me laugh soo loud,if Obama really think Pakistan can help him to fight against terrorism then sorry to say but he need some help to use his brain in right way:rofl:
Exactly. "This is the worst recession of our time", "if we don't act now this will ne worse than the great depression". Fear is always used as a tool by the state to push their agenda.
I just wanted to bring this up since a new article was just brought to my attention that highlights yet another Obama deception: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090501...edit_pickle;_ylt=Ap2OW.snGIOBFR7iGyz761QD5gcF
That's a very opinion based article as opposed to what I posted which was simply a report on Obama's change in tax policy.
OK!!! So that's one in many who feel that way... That's nothing new. For every Vince McMahon, there is someone else who will say that Obama is good for business.
About Guantanamo bay, My understanding they have released many of the prisoner and sent them back to there country and obama have orderd guantanamo bay closed that is the reason they are returning the prisoner to there country.
:clapping:You tell them Blueocean... Leave our President alone. He is doing an outstanding job. :yes: