Randall Sullivan's book "Untouchable"

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I hate that it all happened to Michael. I don't understand how people can get away hurting him like that. Like Michael is the one that has to be punished all the time and they all walk away carefree. This book needs to be buried like the trash it is and hopefully in the future more truthful books will come out and be supported.
 
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And after all of that Michael goes and befriends the crazy @ss Arvizo's and allows them access to him and his house. One would've thought 1993 was hell enough. I lived 1993 that's why I was so shocked that MJ was still that trusting of strangers. After the 1993 fiasco another child should have never stepped foot in his house period let alone without their guardians

MJ didn't befriend the arvizos like he did with other families - he had a phone relationship with gavin whilst he was in hospital with cancer. during gavin's recovery mj allowed the family to visit neverland on a few occasions. I think mj was around for 1 or 2 of their visits, the other times he wasn't there - in fact one time he told the family he wasn't there but gavin spied him in the distance - his heart broke apparently. After gavin recovered, mj distanced himself, the arvizos bombarded mj with cards and phonecalls but mj never replied and changed his number. Unfortunately when bashir came acalling looking for a segment for his doc showing mj and a child mj helped through serious illness, mj chose dave dave and gavin, remembering that gavin was anxious for a tv career. This was the first contact mj had with the arvizos in over a year. The rest you know.

I have no idea, but it's odd isn't it? I guess it was sold him by Schaffel, but I'm only guessing.

Yes, i'm pretty sure sullivan says mann got the 'what more can i give' video from shaeffel - schaeffel held the rights to it. Mann has also bought from some neverland employee audio tapes of mj talking in the late 80s.
 
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"According to the book Mann told Sullivan that those alleged "salacious materials" "had been packed by Marc Schaffel and delivered to Michael Jackson back in 2002" - the gay porn because he was curious and wanted to see the films Schaffel used to work on, the sex toys to "make him laugh". Which Schaffel then confirmed to Sullivan. If Sullivan wouldn't be as dumb as he is this is the point where he should have suspected it's a lie. Because that Vaccaro stuff went into Vaccaro's possession in 1999! So why would Schaffel put things there for Michael in 2002?"

Unless Schaffel was planting stuff against MJ. Paul Barresi claimed Schaffel wanted to blackmail MJ with child pornography.
 
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I completely respect tmez and i would hate it if the fan community was overly critical of him because he endorsed this book. He's gone way beyond anyone else in mj's life to defend mj of the allegations in the media and is such an eloquent advocate for mj. Who else have we got that the media listens to? - mrs j who just parrots this fake jordan confession? I love the fact he is prepared to talk to everyone who is coming out with mj documentaries and books - i can only imagine how much worse sullivan's book would have been without tmez's imput and that is entirely down to tmez taking the time and effort because he cares about mj's legacy.

I've only just finished sullivan's book and am now going through the 200pages of sources. Sullivan is most definitely not a fan, there is no real 'sympathy' for mj in the book that you would expect from a biographer. He dismisses mj's music after thriller and says it's like his plastic surgery - 'lacking authenticity and goes instead for flawless artifice'. Apart from going though newspaper and internet sources, he almost exclusively interviews the sad array of mj's 'business advisors' - i can't recall one reference to a musical collaborator in the whole book apart from kenny ortega. He seemed real surprised to learn that mj was a devoted father and an extremely well-read person - and i think we can see that sullivan was only familiar with the tabloid version of mj up until he began his research.

With regards to the allegations, i would love to know what sullivan thought about them before he began his book. I know what sullivan has said in tv interviews about mj's guilt/innocence and it's pretty equivocal. But in the book when asked by mrs j to tell the world mj isn't a pedo he writes 'i can only say I didn't believe mj was a child molestor'. The fact he can say that i'm sure is down to tmez. He is good on the trial and does make out the arvizos allegations were hugely suspect, jason francia is kinda dismissed and with jordan, the runthrough of the timeline of what happened does infer extortion. He does interview ray chandler, he's writing a neutral biography, he's bound to want to talk to someone connected to the accusations but he quotes geraldine hughes and quotes the schwarz-evan phone call. He does not speculate that there are loads of boys round the world who have been 'paid off' by mj, he talks of boys experiences with mj that were affectionate and positive. At the end, he writes,

Those who arrested and prosecuted mj have yet to explain how it was that outof hundreds of boys who spent the night with him at neverland, only 2 (or 3 if jason francia is counted) ever accused him of sexual molestation and that in each case the circumstances of those charges was at least as suspicious as anything mj ever did or said.

He then says, 'ultimately no one could be certain of the truth'. It's obviously not the 100% vindication that we all want and i'm as disappointed as anyone but i'm damn sure there would have been even less vindication if tmez hadn't taken the time to talk to sullivan. It is the massive problem with child sex abuse cases - they might be hard to prove but they are even harder to disprove, as evan no doubt knew.
 
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Unless Schaffel was planting stuff against MJ. Paul Barresi claimed Schaffel wanted to blackmail MJ with child pornography.

You know it wouldnt surprise me if schaffel was using it to blackmail michael he just seems like that type of person
 
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Unless Schaffel was planting stuff against MJ. Paul Barresi claimed Schaffel wanted to blackmail MJ with child pornography.

Yes, I remember that. I think it was one of Schaffel's porn business associates that told it to Barresi and I wouldn't be surprised.
Schaffel's modus operandi was to plant negative stories in the media about Michael and then offer himself for damage control. That's the way he seemed to want to tie Michael to himself (and he also did the same during their trial to blackmail Michael into a settlement) and now he and Mann seem to do the same to Katherine.
 
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I completely respect tmez and i would hate it if the fan community was overly critical of him because he endorsed this book. He's gone way beyond anyone else in mj's life to defend mj of the allegations in the media and is such an eloquent advocate for mj. Who else have we got that the media listens to? - mrs j who just parrots this fake jordan confession? I love the fact he is prepared to talk to everyone who is coming out with mj documentaries and books - i can only imagine how much worse sullivan's book would have been without tmez's imput and that is entirely down to tmez taking the time and effort because he cares about mj's legacy.

I've only just finished sullivan's book and am now going through the 200pages of sources. Sullivan is most definitely not a fan, there is no real 'sympathy' for mj in the book that you would expect from a biographer. He dismisses mj's music after thriller and says it's like his plastic surgery - 'lacking authenticity and goes instead for flawless artifice'. Apart from going though newspaper and internet sources, he almost exclusively interviews the sad array of mj's 'business advisors' - i can't recall one reference to a musical collaborator in the whole book apart from kenny ortega. He seemed real surprised to learn that mj was a devoted father and an extremely well-read person - and i think we can see that sullivan was only familiar with the tabloid version of mj up until he began his research.

With regards to the allegations, i would love to know what sullivan thought about them before he began his book. I know what sullivan has said in tv interviews about mj's guilt/innocence and it's pretty equivocal. But in the book when asked by mrs j to tell the world mj isn't a pedo he writes 'i can only say I didn't believe mj was a child molestor'. The fact he can say that i'm sure is down to tmez. He is good on the trial and does make out the arvizos allegations were hugely suspect, jason francia is kinda dismissed and with jordan, the runthrough of the timeline of what happened does infer extortion. He does interview ray chandler, he's writing a neutral biography, he's bound to want to talk to someone connected to the accusations but he quotes geraldine hughes and quotes the schwarz-evan phone call. He does not speculate that there are loads of boys round the world who have been 'paid off' by mj, he talks of boys experiences with mj that were affectionate and positive. At the end, he writes,



He then says, 'ultimately no one could be certain of the truth'. It's obviously not the 100% vindication that we all want and i'm as disappointed as anyone but i'm damn sure there would have been even less vindication if tmez hadn't taken the time to talk to sullivan. It is the massive problem with child sex abuse cases - they might be hard to prove but they are even harder to disprove, as evan no doubt knew.

I agree about TM and how much he's done to defend Michael, but I don't see the need for misunderstanding where the objections to Sullivan's book are coming from or that the basis for the objections are not a failure to confront negative assertions but that there are indeed problems with this book and author. Only time will tell if this book does convince the nonfans of Michael's innocence and humanity. I doubt it myself, but maybe I am wrong. But when Sullivan says in interviews that Michael might have been a child molester, and in the book, as you say, to come up with 'no one could be certain of the truth'--this is not helping, and there's a good chance more people saw the TV interviews than will read the book. I don't see how TM can be satisfied with someone saying 'I don't think he was a child molester' b/c this is just opinion and who is this guy that his opinion will be so persuasive? esp. when he then says 'who knows?'

Sullivan's TV interviews were a huge turnoff for me. Ironically Maureen Orth made a big deal about Michael having prosthesis for his nose in her April 2003 VF article, so she should be happy that RS is supporting her, even though TM seems to think Sullivan is refuting the Orths, Sneddons, and Dimonds.

Here's Maureen's comment: "Up close, Jackson's appearance is amazing. He wears a black pageboy wig, and his face is caked with white makeup, which conceals a prosthesis that serves as the tip of his nose. One person who has seen him without the device says he resembles a mummy with two nostril holes." From 'Losing His Grip, VF April, 03
 
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Non fans have better luck in reading Jones book if they want the truth about the 03 allegations/05 trial. She got T-Mez approval too if that is what matters to some fans so much and T-Mez!? She actually attended the trial as well. So why do anyone need Sullivan's book for that? In his book you have to skip or ignore the tabloid mess in order to come out with just a maybe MJ didn't do it and a who knows the truth answer. SMH I say NO THANK YOU! 3 yrs of alleged research and that's all he can come up with? Pff That's is what some call helping to change people minds!? He can't even convince himself, cause he has doubts. Or rather say he does to keep that MJ is a Pedo B.S in the headlines. I don't trust him he just like the rest.
 
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I'm not sure if I should post this here, or maybe it's already known but it was posted yesterday on a fb page Reflection On The Dance , and it'S TMez's response to a fan's email



"Please understand that I do not expect everyone who reads Sullivan’s book to like everything he reports. Nevertheless, I do think that much of the information he presents is important and new. Even if I don’t like the source (I can assure you, he interviews people whom I do not like), I still want to know what they have to say.

This book has been very informative for me. I am glad that I can process a lot of information about Michael that I didn’t have previously.

I think it is an important addition to the history of the life of Michael Jackson.

Something else is very disturbing to me. Someone who dislikes the book has launched a sophisticated “smear campaign” to discourage sales and readership.

People who have not read the book are flooding Amazon and Barnes & Noble websites with “fake” book reviews. They are doing this to discourage sales and readership. I find this to be utterly despicable. It is a sophisticated form of censorship.

Additionally, fake complaints about defective shipments are being made to Amazon and Barnes & Noble. This is designed to discourage sales because Amazon has a procedure where they immediately stop normal sales to investigate the problem. Obviously, this is part of the “smear campaign”. I fear that Michael Jackson fan clubs have been manipulated into being part of this process.

This reminds me of the media campaign to smear Michael Jackson as a child molester. Similar tactics were used to destroy him. I will have no part in such a campaign.

Just because readers don’t get everything they want from Mr. Sullivan is no reason to reject the book. For example, he appears to believe that the Chandler case against Michael was stronger than the Arvizo case. Nevertheless, he rejects both cases. He wasn’t present when any of these alleged events took place. I think he is giving his honest opinion. After interviewing members of the Chandler family and combing through the evidence, he concludes that the evidence is stronger that Mr. Jackson was innocent. He concludes that Michael was not a pedophile.

Mr. Sullivan doesn’t actually call Michael’s accusers liars. Nevertheless, if he concludes that Michael Jackson was not a pedophile (as he does), isn’t he saying the same thing?

Again, he did not approach this book as a fan or as someone biased towards Michael Jackson. As I said previously, this makes his conclusions particularly powerful to a skeptical audience.

I believe that you will be surprised at some of the information contained in the text and notes. Maybe, you will not like some of this. Maybe, you will reject much of this. But aren’t you better off knowing what many of these individuals claim happened? Like it or not, they were close to Michael Jackson.

As far as the verdict in his criminal trial is concerned, one never knows what a jury will do. You are not in their shoes and people are complex. Of course, I was always worried about what a Santa Maria, California jury might do. The charges were horrific and the conviction rate in that court house was extremely high. Also, we all know that the media did everything they could to convict him. I was cautiously optimistic but unwilling to let my guard down.

I am astonished at some of the comments in your letter. Did these people actually read the book? For example, one person doesn’t understand why Mr. Sullivan allegedly said that Michael did not have vitiligo. This is ridiculous. Mr. Sullivan does say that Michael Jackson had vitiligo and explains this issue in detail. I have to assume that this information is a result of the “smear campaign” referred to above.

One should not criticize a lengthy, detailed book like this if they haven’t read it.

Yes, Mr. Sullivan refers to Michael Jackson’s artistry but doesn’t appear to dwell on it. Isn’t this his choice? Again, one doesn’t have to like everything about the book to acknowledge its contributions to the history of Michael Jackson. I didn’t purchase the book because I expected a lot of information on Michael Jackson’s creative accomplishments. Frankly, I was more interested in what people were doing “to and around” Michael after he was acquitted. I always had grave and sad feelings that the people around Michael Jackson would drive him to his grave.

Kind Regards,

Tom Mesereau"
 
Another email from Mesereau

"In my last email, I did not comment on your statement about my concerns that I could be replaced as Michael Jackson’s lead defense counsel.

I learn
ed very quickly that the world of Michael Jackson was a treacherous one. Unsavory, dishonest individuals always lurked. This included lawyers.

The Michael Jackson criminal case was the biggest in history. Lawyers all over the United States wanted to be involved. Many of them were willing to say anything, no matter how dishonest, to achieve this end.

For example, lawyers were telling Michael that they could get the case dismissed. This was ridiculous! I knew that Tom Sneddon would never dismiss this case. I also believed that Mr. Sneddon wanted a showcase trial.

Michael, like any criminal defendant, was nervous and scared. He wanted the case to go away. For this reason, I was concerned that he was unduly vulnerable to dishonest lawyers willing to say anything to be involved.

My integrity was a strength and a weakness. Lawyers were constantly attempting to replace me. Nevertheless, I refused to simply tell Michael what he might want to hear. I was very honest about how well I thought our defense was succeeding. However, I would never guarantee a result or “count my chickens before they hatched”. I knew that various family members were being constantly lobbied by attorneys in an effort to supplant me. Again, this was the world of Michael Jackson. In the end, much of this dishonesty and continual intrigue hurt this very kind person.


Best Wishes,
Tom Mesereau
 
shelly_webster;3744743 said:
Another email from Mesereau

"In my last email, I did not comment on your statement about my concerns that I could be replaced as Michael Jackson’s lead defense counsel.

I learn
ed very quickly that the world of Michael Jackson was a treacherous one. Unsavory, dishonest individuals always lurked. This included lawyers.

The Michael Jackson criminal case was the biggest in history. Lawyers all over the United States wanted to be involved. Many of them were willing to say anything, no matter how dishonest, to achieve this end.

For example, lawyers were telling Michael that they could get the case dismissed. This was ridiculous! I knew that Tom Sneddon would never dismiss this case. I also believed that Mr. Sneddon wanted a showcase trial.

Michael, like any criminal defendant, was nervous and scared. He wanted the case to go away. For this reason, I was concerned that he was unduly vulnerable to dishonest lawyers willing to say anything to be involved.

My integrity was a strength and a weakness. Lawyers were constantly attempting to replace me. Nevertheless, I refused to simply tell Michael what he might want to hear. I was very honest about how well I thought our defense was succeeding. However, I would never guarantee a result or “count my chickens before they hatched”. I knew that various family members were being constantly lobbied by attorneys in an effort to supplant me. Again, this was the world of Michael Jackson. In the end, much of this dishonesty and continual intrigue hurt this very kind person.


Best Wishes,
Tom Mesereau

I agree with T-Mez here.
 
shelly_webster;3744743 said:
Another email from Mesereau

"In my last email, I did not comment on your statement about my concerns that I could be replaced as Michael Jackson’s lead defense counsel.

I learn
ed very quickly that the world of Michael Jackson was a treacherous one. Unsavory, dishonest individuals always lurked. This included lawyers.

The Michael Jackson criminal case was the biggest in history. Lawyers all over the United States wanted to be involved. Many of them were willing to say anything, no matter how dishonest, to achieve this end.

For example, lawyers were telling Michael that they could get the case dismissed. This was ridiculous! I knew that Tom Sneddon would never dismiss this case. I also believed that Mr. Sneddon wanted a showcase trial.

Michael, like any criminal defendant, was nervous and scared. He wanted the case to go away. For this reason, I was concerned that he was unduly vulnerable to dishonest lawyers willing to say anything to be involved.

My integrity was a strength and a weakness. Lawyers were constantly attempting to replace me. Nevertheless, I refused to simply tell Michael what he might want to hear. I was very honest about how well I thought our defense was succeeding. However, I would never guarantee a result or “count my chickens before they hatched”. I knew that various family members were being constantly lobbied by attorneys in an effort to supplant me. Again, this was the world of Michael Jackson. In the end, much of this dishonesty and continual intrigue hurt this very kind person.


Best Wishes,
Tom Mesereau

He should have written book himself, or Sullivan should have written book about all the crooks that were around Michael and how they affected to MJ life. That would have been a book I would have been interested in reading.

Then again, Sullivan took easy route with his book (all already written in tabloids, nothing new there), MJ cannot sue him, but if had he written book about crooks surrounding MJ, he could have gotten sued by them, so why not take the same easy route as other Hedda Hoppers before him.


I'm still not going to buy the book, no matter how many statements TMezz releases/day:)
Anyway, why is he so hell bent with this book (I don't want to write here what I think of his motives)?:bugeyed
 
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So much time defending a book that is already doomed, I say write ur own book T-Mez. U clearly have a lot to say and u are a better person to get it across.
 
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Sullivan's book will be at dollar tree next month.. No one is paying attention to this book.. let it go
 
claudiadoina;3744736 said:
Just because readers don’t get everything they want from Mr. Sullivan is no reason to reject the book. For example, he appears to believe that the Chandler case against Michael was stronger than the Arvizo case. Nevertheless, he rejects both cases. He wasn’t present when any of these alleged events took place. I think he is giving his honest opinion. After interviewing members of the Chandler family and combing through the evidence, he concludes that the evidence is stronger that Mr. Jackson was innocent. He concludes that Michael was not a pedophile.

For the second time now (on KTLA , first Katie Couric show) Sullivan said only Lisa Marie and Jordie Chandler knows if Michael died a virgin or not. He's clearly hinting Jordie Chandler as a possible sex partner for Michael and that Michael might have lost his virginity to Jordie. If Mesereau thinks mentioning a 13 year old boy as a possible sex partner is concluding Michael was not a pedophile , he has to be smoking something.

Obviously, this is part of the “smear campaign”. I fear that Michael Jackson fan clubs have been manipulated into being part of this process.

aww it's so nice to see that Sullivan was able to manipulate Meserau to think that the evil Estate has influenced MJ Fan clubs to give negative reviews for the book. No sir, we have independently called out this worthless book. It's a shame that you can'r even seem to recognize that and in every further email keep insulting Michael Jackson fans.
 
claudiadoina;3744736 said:
This book has been very informative for me. I am glad that I can process a lot of information about Michael that I didn’t have previously.


And this explains it all. He doesn't see the big picture.

What I do agree with Mr. Mesereau about is that people who haven't read the book but scream LIES! on every corner do not add anything productive to the discussion nor anything helpful to the campaign.
 
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For the second time now (on KTLA , first Katie Couric show) Sullivan said only Lisa Marie and Jordie Chandler knows if Michael died a virgin or not. He's clearly hinting Jordie Chandler as a possible sex partner for Michael and that Michael might have lost his virginity to Jordie. If Mesereau thinks mentioning a 13 year old boy as a possible sex partner is concluding Michael was not a pedophile , he has to be smoking something.

Tmez is defending randall's book not a tv interview i doubt he has seen. What randall says here is not a quote from the book. It's a ridiculous thing for randall to say in relation to jordan as mj was accused just of molestation. Randall also says in that interview that 'there is no compelling evidence of mj's guilt and alot of evidence that he was innocent' - which i think is the best we can expect from him.

This book is definetely not a book for fans despite what the publishers' blurb might suggest by it being 'sympathetic'. Randall portrays mj fans as spending their time writing blood curdling threats against jordan chandler, living in a state of denial after june 25 because they believe mj is still alive and have appalling taste in music as all mj's albums post-thriller are rubbish. Presumably he'll add, spending their time writing negative reviews against his book on amazon. Whatever randall might say about feeling sympathetic now towards mj, i don't buy - i didn't like his coverage of the murray trial for example. Therefore the fact the allegations, 93 and the trial were handled, to me quite fairly, is a huge plus, and that's thanks to tmez and might, just might, because of the author's blatant non-fandom make those out there who think that mj was a prolific abuser who 'got away with it' (and lots think like this) think again, more than the conspiracy book by jones for eg, a mj advocate.

I would be interested to know how others who have read the book feel about it in relation to the allegations and i don't mean just watching these tv interviews. Didn't we have a similar discussion about cascio's book where we were told to judge the whole book not just frank's tv interviews?
 
Did Tmez say: I didn’t purchase the book because I expected a lot of information on Michael Jackson’s creative accomplishments. Frankly, I was more interested in what people were doing “to and around” Michael after he was acquitted. I always had grave and sad feelings that the people around Michael Jackson would drive him to his grave.???

Does this mean that Tmez didn't read the book but he wrote a review for it? I might be misunderstanding what was said.

Is it possible or probable that Tmez has ulterior motives for advocating this book? If so, what could they be?

I find it very "fishy" that Tmez even is responding to emails (two times) to justify himself. Tmez doesn't seem to be making a lot of sense (common sense) when it comes to this book. I think anyone who has read it (I am only half way through reading it) would come away either believing lies and hearsay about MJ or realizing that the majority of the book is tabloid trash and just shred or throw away the book. I believe Tmez is wrong if he thinks that people will read the book and come away with a conviction of MJs innocence. To me, it would be silly to even think that. I can't think of any reason why Tmez would endorse this book.
 
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well I haven't seen any of his interviews or read any of his book. If you said that he said this on Katie Couric " Randall also says in that interview that 'there is no compelling evidence of mj's guilt and alot of evidence that he was innocent".. that's good enough for me especially with folks like him.
 
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^ I suppose that's my argument - this book, i mean just the title, the author being a rolling stone editor, was a hatchet job in the making. Roger friedman of all people, told fans to watch out for this book by a 'muckraker' a year or 2 back, and i'm sure mj haters were anticipating it, fans certainly weren't. The fact that mj emerged relatively undamaged in any 'new explosive allegations' category is a plus as far as i'm concerned - who did we want sullivan talking to, zonen?

@joyce I think tmez is meaning he didn't buy it to find out about mj's artistry, not that he didn't buy it full stop.

I can't believe that tmez has ulterior motives, unlike everyone else in mj's life he has integrity. Maybe he felt he gave up such a lot of his time to sullivan on the guilt/innocence of mj and felt he was able to push sullivan towards the innocence side of the argument that he feels invested in the project. I'm only speculating, but judging by sullivan's fascination with tabloid sources, salacious materials and frankly really poor judgement which is depressingly evident in alot of the rest of his book, his views on the allegations pre-tmez could only have been dire.
 
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Let's not be so naive shall we? His interviews on the 93 allegations about how he thinks MJ and Jordan could have had something is how he truly feels. Who and Why would anyone support his book knowing this?!
 
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Mesereau bought that book. On Amazon, next to his review you can read certified purchase which means he bought it on Amazon.
 
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Let's not be so naive shall we? His interviews on the 93 allegations about how he thinks MJ and Jordan could have had something is how he truly feels. Who and Why would anyone support his book knowing this?!

Hold on u mean T-mez thinks this?
 
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Hold on u mean T-mez thinks this?

No she means Sullivan. As mentioned before Sullivan goes around interviews saying only Lisa Marie and Jordie Chandler knows whether Michael died a virgin or not. This clearly insinuates Jordie as a potential sex partner. After hearing that you must be either really naive or totally clueless to think that Sullivan thinks Michael is innocent. If he believed Michael is innocent he wouldn't be going around saying that.
 
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No she means Sullivan. As mentioned before Sullivan goes around interviews saying only Lisa Marie and Jordie Chandler knows whether Michael died a virgin or not. This clearly insinuates Jordie as a potential sex partner. After hearing that you must be either really naive or totally clueless to think that Sullivan thinks Michael is innocent. If he believed Michael is innocent he wouldn't be going around saying that.


Oh ok i thought she meant T-mez

but i do agree with you bout sullivan
 
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Hold on u mean T-Mez thinks this?
No, I was talking about Sullivan and his thoughts on the 93 allegations. Which proves how he truly feels about MJ. The word innocent isn't what he believes, judging by the interviews he gave promoting his crap book. :angry: So I have no idea why some are trying to say this can help MJ, cause it sure doesn't. I think he thought he can trick people into buyin his book havin T-Mez apart of it and being fair when it came to the 03 allegations and trial. But, then Sullivan showed his true colors in his TV Interviews. He doomed his own book! Funny sh*t! :rollin:
 
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A very, very, very good source about who Michael Jackson truly is, is when Elizabeth Taylor speaks, and I think she would call this book rubbish!

Here a few opinions by Dame Elizabeth Taylor describing Michael and her friendship that she had with him. Dame Elizabeth Taylor would not have ruined her reputation if Michael Jackson was inappropriate with children. I'm so sure she was sick of the innuendo and crap told about Michael or as Michael would say, "stop maliciously attacking my Integrity. I need my Privacy..."!


Elizabeth Taylor Honors Michael Jackson (1988)


Elizabeth Taylor speaks about Michael Jackson's health (1993)


Elizabeth Taylor talks about Michael Jackson on Larry King (2006)
 
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