Randall Sullivan's book "Untouchable"

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I don't understand why Tom is talking that bad about the MJ fan community, if we're the first ones to thank him the way he proved the 2005 acusations and the trial was a complete bs and waste of time.

He did an excellent job vadicating Michael from those false acusations but all of us fight for a complete vindication on all the lies told about him. Besides being important for all the people who genuinely love him not considering him a criminal without any argument, neither a freak just for feeding gossip and cashing in. Michael still for millions of us a beautiful human being willing to give his love unconditionally and making people happy and provoking to have genuine smiles on our faces.
 
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So T-Mez wants fans to let Sullivan's book be great EVEN THOUGH there are lie's printed in it?..As far as T-Mez is concerned as long as Sullivan got "SOME" of the fact straight...it is "OK" to let the rest of the trash lies in that book stand "as is". I don't get him at all. If T-mez is so concerned about the parts of the book that Sullivan "got right"..then maybe he should of suggested to him to write a shorter book with ONLY the "facts" in it..instead of adding the rest of the trash that he did. Maybe people would be inclined to take him seriously because he will NEVER get MJ fan support with the crap that he wrote in that book!
 
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Well, I have news for Mr. Mesereau.

Spike Lee just did a great documentary on MJ, humanizing him like few have done before. And the beauty of it is NOT ONCE did he mention VITILIGO. CHILDREN. MOLESTATION.

I lost all respect for him...endorsing a trash like RS's book...that was really a wake up call.

He will go to bat for his buddy to sell his book & fill his pocket at MJ's expense. And the worse part of it all, is he is trying to CONVINCE us this crap is for the greater good for MJ's legacy. IS HE FOR REAL? He must have a very low of opinion of MJ fans...to think we are a bunch of sheep who will jump at his command, and run to amazon to buy this farce of a book.

Hmmmmm no Sir. You can't feed us this crap...

ETA I am really annoyed with him still pushing this mess 2 weeks later and chastising fans like we were children. One has to wonder, why is he so willing to stick his head out for Sullivan? Halperin's book was far more forceful in its defense of MJ's innocence, fans protested & boycotted that book too, yet Mesereau never came out to support it.
 
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I always be grateful how he helped Michael during the trial and how he always stands up for him in that way.

I don't think he understands what as fans we have to hear. Many times people will say to me that they love his music or think he was great then they say BUT and repeat some tabloid craziness that the media put out there. People don't talk about him like he was a human being. They talk about him like he was a cartoon character and that doesn't help Michael.

I can't support a book that just lies and it taken from tabloids and that says Michael didn't even have a nose. Something I don't see how that is even possible. Even if someone says they feel Michael was innocent all the other junk gets the attention. I just don't get the feeling this author wants to help Michael's legacy or help Michael at all. There are people who try to help Michael and leave the tabloid trash out of it and they don't get the attention that this book has gotten.
 
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Look even those do not matter. Randall Sullivan has went on to TV - Katie Couric- saying that only Lisa Marie and Jordie Chandler knows if Michael died a virgin or not. (please correct me if I'm wrong) Sullivan might have said that the Arvizo's are a scam artist but in his book and in his interviews he's saying that the 1993 accusations might be legit. So Meserea is promoting an author that says "Michael didn't molest in 2005 but he could have molested in 1993". If he thinks this is any way helpful in vindicating and showing Michael's innocence then I have nothing to say to him.
 
When T-Mez says this: "Randall Sullivan’s book is already changing people’s perspective on Michael Jackson." I really wonder WHO he's referring to. Who? Because I don't see this book as changing people's opinions of Michael in a positive way.
 
WhatMichael Jackson fans apparently don’t realize is the need to confront certain aspects of Michael Jackson’s life and explain them. If you don’t explain these realities and utilize them to humanize Michael Jackson, you will never persuade others that he was not a pedophile.

My perception of the Michael Jackson fan community is that, for the most part, supporters of Michael Jackson want to avoid addressing issues like his sexuality, interaction with children, plastic surgery, vitiligo, etc. I understand this. However, in my opinion, you will never persuade others about Michael Jackson’s humanity and decency without confronting them.
:bugeyed Is he for real? Holy hell! That is NOT TRUE! I for one and many others I seen on fan boards do NOT shy away from these subjects to explain MJs life, so that others can understand. There are even websites and youtube video's online from fans going into depth about all these things so that others can understand MJ better. So what rock has T-Mez been under?

I repeat, the Dimonds, Orths, Chandlers and Sneddons are ecstatic that Michael Jackson fans are trying to bury this book. To me, these fans are doing a great disservice to the legacy of Michael Jackson. Michael was no pedophile or criminal. He was one of the kindest, nicest people I ever encountered. He was also the greatest, artistic genius of my time.
Just NO! These people actually love that their lies are being told again in Sullivans book. Especially Ray Chandler who was interviewed about 93 for this book.

So I don't see how this book is a good thing for MJ at all. It's Sullivan who doesn't address the aspects of MJ life right. He has doubts about MJ in 93 which makes his belief in MJs innocence in 03 complete B.S! As well as saying MJ died a Virgin but, only Jordan Chandler and Lisa Marie can prove that. Huh? First off it is disgusting for him to say that Jordan would know that and second how many times has Lisa said her and MJ had sex? Plenty of times! So again Sullivan doesn't do crap to help MJ with the allegations! And what about Sullivan saying MJ was bleaching his skin in the 70's... I believe he also said MJ had Vitiligo but may have caused it himself? Ridiculous! So again all he provides is doubt to people who will read his book that's all. No truth! And the whole no nose thing is just the most redundant lame ass thing anyone can say about MJ. it's too old and just pathetic that anyone would still even go there.

Plain and simple the book is worth ish. And I'm glad it's doin bad!


 
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It's sad that Tom Mesereau is supporting this. He is clearly not getting something about the whole situation (or is it us not getting something?) Having read the book, I understand where he is coming from. Sullivan does make you feel sympathetic for his character quite a lot. The problem is, THIS CHARACTER IS NOT MICHAEL. He basically created some artificial "cartoon character" (as it is called above) based on some truths, some fiction and some speculation, and he tries to sell it to you by making you feel sorry for it. Even if you do, and even if you believe that this character was not a child molester, all of this does not do any good for Michael. Because, what Michael needs and what he always wanted, he voiced: "I just hope that one day they will be fair and portray me the way I really am."

As to the "defense" from allegations, Sullivan's book is very similar to Halperin's. Sullivan claims MJ wasn't a pedophile because he was presexual; Halperin said it was because he was homosexual. Both end their "defense" with lengthy retelling of the Chandler version of the story. Maybe Mr. Mesereau hasn't read Halperin's book. Maybe he hasn't read a whole lot of books on Michael at all, and doesn't know better. Me, having read a few dozens of them, I can confidently say this one's among the worst.
 
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I can't believe T-Mez. I'm very disappointed in him.
 
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"My perception of the Michael Jackson fan community is that, for the most part, supporters of Michael Jackson want to avoid addressing issues like his sexuality, interaction with children, plastic surgery, vitiligo, etc. I understand this. However, in my opinion, you will never persuade others about Michael Jackson’s humanity and decency without confronting them."

Confronting them with lies, that is TMezz solution?
I have no problem confronting those issues if they are true but Sullivan did not write the truth, full stop.
Does he really think people would change their mind MJ not being p*do, because there is so much more crap about him in the book? Those things laid the foundation to the p*edo claims. It was easier for people to believe MJ being p*do because:
black man wanting to be white
massive amount of plastic surgery
drug addict
asexual/presexual/gay etc
There were so much crap talk about MJ at the time on tabloids etc that people found it easy to believe he was p*do too.
Does TMezz think that saying in one book MJ wasn't, is going to change people's mind? I don't think so.
I even doubt that if Jordan comes out and says nothing happened or it was all Evan's plan to get easy money, people are not going to change their minds.

More information is needed to get out there regarding the issues why Michael was targeted the way he was in the media, and in my opinion the information Sullivan offers isn't the right one.


"Following the trial, I spoke to the jury foreperson. He said that Michael Jackson might not have been acquitted of all counts if I had not called these witnesses and explained Michael’s behavior."

TMezz doesn't understand that the jury was given 2 possible scenarios, his and prosecutor's. He explained the situation and brought in credible witnesses so jury could understand and accept his side, thus acquittal.

We are now in the same position as the jury were at that time, except we are given 1 possible scenario, unreliable witnesses, lots of innuendo, myths and Sullivan's own beliefs which we are supposed to take as truth. Sorry, this jury member votes guilty for writing crap book.



"In the trial, I was not addressing a jury of Michael Jackson fans. I assumed that these twelve jurors were pro-prosecution and prepared to convict. Fortunately, they were persuaded otherwise."

Sullivan should have taken the same route as TMezz did. Try to convince/persuade us that his book is worth of reading but he failed.

"Again, you will never convince numerous segments of the general public that Michael Jackson was not a pedophile unless you confront, explain and humanize certain aspects of Michael’s life that these people find troubling or unusual. In my opinion, Randall Sullivan’s book does this very effectively."

His solution to solve dilemma of whether MJ was/wasn't p*edo is to dehumanise him even further? Right:doh:


"I repeat, the Dimonds, Orths, Chandlers and Sneddons are ecstatic that Michael Jackson fans are trying to bury this book. To me, these fans are doing a great disservice to the legacy of Michael Jackson. Michael was no pedophile or criminal. He was one of the kindest, nicest people I ever encountered. He was also the greatest, artistic genius of my time."

No, they are happy that there are other crappy writers than themselves. It's hard to be scum of the earth alone, but I'm sure it makes it easier to find out that there are others like them.




So sad that TMezz is supporting Sullivan but no matter what he says, it won't change my mind of his book=crap.
 
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I'm disappointed with the fact that Mez seems to be so short-sighted. He accuses fans of being short-sighted, but IMO it's him who is short-sighted in this. And I'm saying it as someone who agrees with him on the fact that the most important thing is to show the world Michael was innocent. If the only crap in the book would be the stuff about his nose and skin, but otherwise it would be a brilliant defense against the allegations then I'd say Mez has a point. But thing is, it's not good defense against the allegations either!

Maybe Mez is so short-sighted that not only he is only interested in the allegations, but he is only interested in the 2005 allegations. What about 1993? What about Sullivan's insinuations that the Chandler allegations could be true? How is that defending Michael? I am someone who doesn't only think (well, know) that Michael was innocent in the Arvizo case, but I also think (know) that he was innocent in the Chandler case too. And I do not appreciate insinuations otherwise, just because Sullivan was too lazy/dumb to do a proper research on that.
 
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^^^ I agree, I think TMez only focusses on 2005, when actually at the end of the day, he did his job and Michael was found not guilty, we, as fans, do not need to defend the trial so much because that is a done deal, however 1993, vitiligo etc - we do!

Very disappointed, I thought TMez knew us better than that.
 
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Mez did wonders for MJ.. If MJ wanted 1993 defended he should've defended himself. He knew the innuendo was still lingering. I believe MJ was innocent in 1993 and in 2003 but we have to be honest with the fact that MJ didn't defend himself in either case. I still think Mike should have sued both of them for defamation of character and filing false charges. Mike put himself into a terrible situation by trusting terrible people. When 1993 happened, there is no way 2003 should have happened especially if MJ was protecting himself with his surrogate families. There isn't anything we can do now. Mike is resting in peace and I hope and pray that Jordan Chandler gets what's coming to him.
 
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I still think Mike should have sued both of them for defamation of character and filing false charges.


Michael did sue Evan for extortion in 1993. Only authorities never investigated it seriously. What should he have done? The prosecution was biased against him from day one.
 
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As to the "defense" from allegations, Sullivan's book is very similar to Halperin's. Sullivan claims MJ wasn't a pedophile because he was presexual; Halperin said it was because he was homosexual.

Actually Halperin wrote he started thinking MJ was guilty but found out that he wasn't through his research. Sullivan on the other hand lists 93 as a possibility and ends with "who knows". So Halperin had a more definitive defense position than Sullivan.

I'm disappointed with the fact that Mez seems to be so short-sighted. He accuses fans of being short-sighted, but IMO it's him who is short-sighted in this.

Maybe Mez is so short-sighted that not only he is only interested in the allegations, but he is only interested in the 2005 allegations. What about 1993?

That's the conclusion I came as well. T Mez was the lawyer in the 2005 trial and it seems that's what he's interested in. I also have a feeling that he didn't read the full book and /or isn't aware of the media interviews. In my opinion he's failing to realize that Sullivan giving credibility to 93 Chandler allegations is not defending Michael and it will at the end cause people to believe that Michael was guilty.
 
It´s like T Mez know something but he is not telling it. If he did read the whole book he should have addressed many things don´t you think? And if he´s read the whole book and still don´t address a few things, does this mean he agree with them too?

I don´t even know what I just wrote.. sorry. It just seem so strange.
 
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Michael did sue Evan for extortion in 1993. Only authorities never investigated it seriously. What should he have done? The prosecution was biased against him from day one.

He should've fought harder.. call in the FBI.. Extortion is a federal crime. Of course the prosecution was biased but he should've fought harder, show outrage, yell and scream call Evan and Jordan liars to their faces. And again being accused in 1993 still didn't stop MJ from hanging around families and kids. There is no way Gavin should've been able to accuse MJ of anything. Mike didn't sue Evan. The police investigated and found the extortion charges not valid. Mike should have sued Jordan, his father and the therapist. Mike did not fight hard enough in 1993 at all. Be on the offense, show outrage and anger of being called a cm.
 
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And if people thought Schaffel turned good after MJ's death this book is the evidence to the contrary. He's one of Sullivan's main sources throughout the book, making all kinds of innuendo and insinuations, while on the surface pretending to be a "friend" of Michael - but still dropping shades and making up lies which are totally easy to detect. Only Sullivan is too dumb to see through them. Reading the book I actually think Schaffel and Mann worked together in scaring and blackmailing Katherine with false claims about Michael into signing with Mann. Absolutely disgusting!
 
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And if people thought Schaffel turned good after MJ's death this book is the evidence to the contrary. He's one of Sullivan's main sources throughout the book, making all kinds of innuendo and insinuations, while on the surface pretending to be a "friend" of Michael - but still dropping shades and making up lies which are totally easy to detect. Only Sullivan is too dumb to see through them. Reading the book I actually think Schaffel and Mann worked together in scaring and blackmailing Katherine with false claims about Michael into signing with Mann. Absolutely disgusting!


I think she was blackmailed too.. Remember she said Mann took 'something' out of storage that would've embarrassed MJ. Come to find out the original owner of the storage bin said there was nothing incriminating against MJ in there. Mann lied to her.

Mike should've never been around Schaffel anyway. He is obviously a crook. I love MJ but he never investigated the folks he allowed in and he was far too trusting
 
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I think she was blackmailed too.. Remember she said Mann took 'something' out of storage that would've embarrassed MJ. Come to find out the original owner of the storage bin said there was nothing incriminating against MJ in there. Mann lied to her.

Mike should've never been around Schaffel anyway. He is obviously a crook. I love MJ but he never investigated the folks he allowed in and he was far too trusting

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. The story is told from the POV of Mann and Schaffel in this book and they totally tell on themselves on what they did when you know the facts (Sullivan obviously doesn't because he just took their word for it).

Mann claimed that the stuff he bought from Vaccaro in the fall of 2009 contained "salacious materials" which tabloids were after and offered him 7-digit figures. But Mann is a man of integrity (LOL) so instead of cashing-in on it he offered the material to Katherine out of pure goodness of heart. For which Katherine was so grateful that she immediately signed with him...

According to Sullivan's book now the "salacious material" were sex toys and gay porn films. That the Vaccaro stuff included sex toys is true (but they did not belong to Michael - remember that stuff had the possession of all Jacksons, including Janet's who is not shy in interviews about the fact that she likes sex toys). That the Vaccaro stuff included gay porn is not true. It was investigated by Sneddon, it was investigated by Diane Dimond both before the 2005 trial and in 2007. Not one of them ever mentioned any gay porn. There is also no mention of any gay porn in Vaccaro's motion to Sneddon during the trial.

According to the book Mann told Sullivan that those alleged "salacious materials" "had been packed by Marc Schaffel and delivered to Michael Jackson back in 2002" - the gay porn because he was curious and wanted to see the films Schaffel used to work on, the sex toys to "make him laugh". Which Schaffel then confirmed to Sullivan. If Sullivan wouldn't be as dumb as he is this is the point where he should have suspected it's a lie. Because that Vaccaro stuff went into Vaccaro's possession in 1999! So why would Schaffel put things there for Michael in 2002?

These guys forget that Michael's premises were thoroughly searched in 2003. So it's easy to disprove their lies. No gay porn movies were found in Michael's possession - not from Schaffel, not from anyone else. And there wasn't any gay porn in the Vaccaro stuff either - well, until Mann didn't take over in 2009... And he and Schaffel were dumb enough to lie that they were sent by Schaffel to Michael in 2002. When that stuff has long been in Vaccaro's possession in 2002...
 
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I still cannot believe that TMezz goes defending the Jackson on telly about kidnapping and money scam telling that he knows the family well and they don't do such a thing, which Sullivan covered in his book and not nice way towards family.
Then he goes to defend this crappy book and say how accurate it is?

All that makes me wonder why TMezz is behind of this book?

This is the link to youtube where he defends the family


It just doesn't make any sense to me that in telly he defends the family, Sullivan writes about it in his book but TMezz doesn't say anything about family saga things in the book? Are they supposed to be true too?
 
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well he doesn't know them well because Jermaine, Janet, Rebbie and Randy kidnapped their mother and lied to MJ's kids
 
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Man, I don't know what to say. I'm "guessing" that T-Mez means well, but he really needs to know what the particular project will entail before he adds his up-close-and-personal input.

This sort of reminds me of that documentary that was done several years ago, I believe it was called something like "What Really Happened" (or words to that effect).

Anyway the documentary maker interviewed T-Mez and we were all excited about what T-Mez had to say, only to find out that the documentary maker didn't really use any of T-Mez' interview. All he ended up doing was discussing how T-Mez' ring was huge and distracting. Which again left us all saying "what the heck?" (Anybody remember that?)

"T-Mez, most of us love you, BUT you need to know what an MJ project is REALLY all about before you add your 2-cent."
 
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He should've fought harder.. call in the FBI.. Extortion is a federal crime. Of course the prosecution was biased but he should've fought harder, show outrage, yell and scream call Evan and Jordan liars to their faces. And again being accused in 1993 still didn't stop MJ from hanging around families and kids. There is no way Gavin should've been able to accuse MJ of anything. Mike didn't sue Evan. The police investigated and found the extortion charges not valid. Mike should have sued Jordan, his father and the therapist. Mike did not fight hard enough in 1993 at all. Be on the offense, show outrage and anger of being called a cm.

He did file extortion charges against Evan. Maybe he should have fought harder, but it's a fact that the authorities were completely biased against him and even without any evidence they decided he was guilty and treated him as such. The extortion charges filed by Michael were never taken seriously by them. No wonder, when you know that the Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney, Lauren Weis was a good friend of Richard Hirsch, the attorney who represented Evan Chandler against the extortion charges...

And the reason why Michael settled was because all four motions that he filed to get the civil proceedings behind the criminal were dismissed by the judge. This potentially could have violated his constitutional rights at a trial.

Also Michael was someone who wasn't very good at confrontations, he rather just withdraw all his life when there was a conflict. I think this is another reason he did not fight, not to mention the toll it took on his health. So it's easy to say what he should have done, but we weren't in his shoes.

And if you really think the extortion charges were not valid, let me quote from Ray Chandler's book for you:

"Fields and Pellicano already knew Evan was willing to negotiate. Why not pay him off and nip the nightmare in the bud while you've got the opportunity? Especially when you know your man is guilty of sleeping with little boys, at least. Not only do you avoid a civil suit, but also, more important, you buy your way around authorities by removing their star witness. Ten, twenty, thirty million? Money's no object. The deal could be a fait accompli within hours. And if it doesn't work, you can always come out swingin' anyway."

or

“Had Michael paid the twenty million dollars demanded of him in August, rather than the following January, he might have spent the next ten years as the world's most famous entertainer, instead of the world's most infamous child molester.”

If that is not an extortion then I don't know what is. It's simply shameful how the police handled it at the time.
 
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That's the conclusion I came as well. T Mez was the lawyer in the 2005 trial and it seems that's what he's interested in. I also have a feeling that he didn't read the full book and /or isn't aware of the media interviews. In my opinion he's failing to realize that Sullivan giving credibility to 93 Chandler allegations is not defending Michael and it will at the end cause people to believe that Michael was guilty.

Not to mention the fact that Sullivan just cannot get his facts right on anything. For example, he quotes an unnamed source on how the two brothers of Jordan, Nikki and Emmanuelle allegedly get furious at only the mention of MJ's name. Except that although he is mentioned as male in Sulliven's book in reality Emmanuelle is female, not male... So if his source talked to him about two boys, then it kind of makes the credibility of yet another source of his dubious.
 
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Yes, that's exactly what I mean. The story is told from the POV of Mann and Schaffel in this book and they totally tell on themselves on what they did when you know the facts (Sullivan obviously doesn't because he just took their word for it).

Mann claimed that the stuff he bought from Vaccaro in the fall of 2009 contained "salacious materials" which tabloids were after and offered him 7-digit figures. But Mann is a man of integrity (LOL) so instead of cashing-in on it he offered the material to Katherine out of pure goodness of heart. For which Katherine was so grateful that she immediately signed with him...

According to Sullivan's book now the "salacious material" were sex toys and gay porn films. That the Vaccaro stuff included sex toys is true (but they did not belong to Michael - remember that stuff had the possession of all Jacksons, including Janet's who is not shy in interviews about the fact that she likes sex toys). That the Vaccaro stuff included gay porn is not true. It was investigated by Sneddon, it was investigated by Diane Dimond both before the 2005 trial and in 2007. Not one of them ever mentioned any gay porn. There is also no mention of any gay porn in Vaccaro's motion to Sneddon during the trial.

According to the book Mann told Sullivan that those alleged "salacious materials" "had been packed by Marc Schaffel and delivered to Michael Jackson back in 2002" - the gay porn because he was curious and wanted to see the films Schaffel used to work on, the sex toys to "make him laugh". Which Schaffel then confirmed to Sullivan. If Sullivan wouldn't be as dumb as he is this is the point where he should have suspected it's a lie. Because that Vaccaro stuff went into Vaccaro's possession in 1999! So why would Schaffel put things there for Michael in 2002?

These guys forget that Michael's premises were thoroughly searched in 2003. So it's easy to disprove their lies. No gay porn movies were found in Michael's possession - not from Schaffel, not from anyone else. And there wasn't any gay porn in the Vaccaro stuff either - well, until Mann didn't take over in 2009... And he and Schaffel were dumb enough to lie that they were sent by Schaffel to Michael in 2002. When that stuff has long been in Vaccaro's possession in 2002...

Respect, do you know why, according to Sullivan, Mann has the 'What More Can I Give' masters? Why doesn't the Estate have them? And when is that going to be released--both the English and Spanish versions?? Would appreciate any info on this. I love that song.
 
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He did file extortion charges against Evan. Maybe he should have fought harder, but it's a fact that the authorities were completely biased against him and even without any evidence they decided he was guilty and treated him as such. The extortion charges filed by Michael were never taken seriously by them. No wonder, when you know that the Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney, Lauren Weis was a good friend of Richard Hirsch, the attorney who represented Evan Chandler against the extortion charges...



And the reason why Michael settled was because all four motions that he filed to get the civil proceedings behind the criminal were dismissed by the judge. This potentially could have violated his constitutional rights at a trial.

Also Michael was someone who wasn't very good at confrontations, he rather just withdraw all his life when there was a conflict. I think this is another reason he did not fight, not to mention the toll it took on his health. So it's easy to say what he should have done, but we weren't in his shoes.

And if you really think the extortion charges were not valid, let me quote from Ray Chandler's book for you:



or



If that is not an extortion then I don't know what is. It's simply shameful how the police handled it at the time.


I know it was... This was all Ray Chandler not Evan talking.. Again Mike put himself in that situation and he should've been prepared to defend himself. That's all I will say on the matter. What's done is done. RIP Michael!! and Evan is rotting in hell where he belongs. If someone accuses you of raping their child you fight with every being in you and you put those people on trial.
 
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Mez did wonders for MJ.. If MJ wanted 1993 defended he should've defended himself. He knew the innuendo was still lingering. I believe MJ was innocent in 1993 and in 2003 but we have to be honest with the fact that MJ didn't defend himself in either case. I still think Mike should have sued both of them for defamation of character and filing false charges. Mike put himself into a terrible situation by trusting terrible people. When 1993 happened, there is no way 2003 should have happened especially if MJ was protecting himself with his surrogate families. There isn't anything we can do now. Mike is resting in peace and I hope and pray that Jordan Chandler gets what's coming to him.

There was a conflict among the lawyers Michael hired. Bert Fields and his investigator Anthony Pellicano wanted to go to trial but then Johnnie Cochran was hired and he wanted to settle. Cochran and Fields had a falling out and Fields and Pellicano quit, leaving Michael with Cochran. The other point is that while most of this was going on, Michael was out of the country on tour, trying to perform and function in the midst of all this chaos of media, law suits, etc. He was not there is take charge and he was busy on tour. They struck him ar a terrible time when his focus was not able to be just on the allegations. He ended up a mess and went to rehab. There are accounts of the bodyguards in London that when he arrived, he was in such bad shape he had to be carried off the plane to go to rehab. Then when he came back he was strip-searched. It was such a nightmare for him. The police did not do any real investigation of the extortion charges that Michael filed. Both Evan and Rothman (lawyer) refused to be interviewed by the police! Yet the police did not set up a grand jury, or get a search warrant to search their houses. yet the minute the child abuse charges were filed, they searched Michael's homes and set up 2 grand juries.
 
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And after all of that Michael goes and befriends the crazy @ss Arvizo's and allows them access to him and his house. One would've thought 1993 was hell enough. I lived 1993 that's why I was so shocked that MJ was still that trusting of strangers. After the 1993 fiasco another child should have never stepped foot in his house period let alone without their guardians
 
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Respect, do you know why, according to Sullivan, Mann has the 'What More Can I Give' masters?

I have no idea, but it's odd isn't it? I guess it was sold him by Schaffel, but I'm only guessing.
 
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