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i'm giving her the side eye with her rulings.....
 
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OK so 2 days to see what she decides.
 
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I'll say it once more we do not want any more MJ trials, we all have become layers all those years. I believe this one will be an awful ordeal for all :(
 
This post is for informational and discussion purposes only to keep fans informed of what is being reported by those covering the trial, whether we agree with them or not. MJJC does not agree with or support DD or her views.


Inside the Latest Michael Jackson Trial—The One With $40 Billion on the Line
Apr 1, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

The King of Pop is dead. His doctor is in jail. Is there anyone else to blame? Diane Dimond on why Jackson's mother is back in court—and the intimate new details exposed in the process.


When prospective jurors step into Los Angeles Superior Court after the Easter recess on Tuesday, 12 of them will suddenly find themselves key players in the latest sensational twist of the Michael Jackson saga: a wrongful death suit that promises to dredge up the late singer’s darkest moments, including his 2005 molestation trial; feature testimony from at least one of his sheltered children; and put on trial the very nature of the star’s personal legacy. And all of it with $40 billion on the table.



That’s the amount that Katherine Jackson, the 82-year-old matriarch of the Jackson family, is seeking from AEG Live, the concert promoters who worked with her son on his ill-fated “This is It” comeback tour shortly before his death. It’s the money she believes Michael could have earned over the years had he not suddenly died on June 25, 2009 at the age of 50.

The price tag is over the top in true Jackson style, according to most experts. “It’s a money grab,” L.A.-based attorney and trial strategist Marshall Hennington told The Daily Beast. “Forty billion? Come on, he never made that in his lifetime and we know the debt he was in when he died. This is what lawyers do. They throw up those kinds of numbers to see what they can really get.”

Several of Katherine Jackson’s claims against AEG Live and its parent company, Anschutz Entertainment Group, have already been dismissed by Judge Yvonne Palazuelos. What’s left is the single complaint of “negligent hiring,” a charge succinctly summarized in the court documents (PDF): “At the time of his death, Michael Jackson was under the immediate care of a doctor selected by, hired by, and controlled by AEG. Indeed, AEG demanded and required that Michael Jackson be treated by this particular doctor to ensure that [Jackson] would attend all rehearsals and shows on the tour. Due to AEG’s actions and inactions, three loving children lost their father.”

Conrad Murray, the doctor referred to in the complaint, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to four years in prison in 2011 for giving Jackson massive doses of the hospital anesthetic Propofol, which contributed to the singer’s death.

Essentially, Mrs. Jackson’s lawyers maintain by working with Dr. Murray AEG put its desire for profits over the health and safety of Michael Jackson and that he died as a result, robbing his children of future earnings. In response, AEG maintains it consistently acted in Jackson’s best interests, but that the entertainer simply couldn’t be saved from himself. Judge Palazuelos has allowed the company to raise Jackson’s molestation trial as part of their defense, since it could be relevant to his history of alleged drug abuse and depression. (Jackson was acquitted on all 10 charges in that trial.)

The late star's two oldest children—Prince, who recently turned 16, and Paris, who will celebrate her 15th birthday the day after jury selection begins—have given depositions in the case, and it's expected that one or both will testify at trial. Jackson's last son, affectionately called Blanket, is 10.

On AEG’s side: no clear evidence has surfaced that proves the concert promoters knew what Murray was doing. Perhaps more importantly, there never was a signed contract between Dr. Murray and AEG. The cash-strapped Murray had jumped at the offer to earn a reported $150,000 a month caring for Jackson, but the fact remains that he never saw a dime of it. Neither Jackson nor AEG ever paid him. It will certainly come up in trial as well that it was Michael Jackson himself who brought Dr. Murray into his inner circle. The two men met years ago in Las Vegas, where the Jackson children had fallen ill with colds and flu. Their father asked friends (specifically, Dr. Tohme Tohme, who is on AEG’s witness list) for a physician referral and in entered Murray. AEG executives are expected to testify that since the comeback concerts were scheduled to take place at the O2 Arena in London, they had wanted a London-based physician care for Jackson. Ultimately, they will have to admit, they acquiesced to Jackson’s choice.

On the other hand, AEG may have a hard time explaining a raft of inter-office e-mails the Jackson team collected during discovery which were mysteriously leaked to the Los Angeles Times in September. The emails make it apparent that top executives at AEG Live were aware of Michael Jackson’s fragile physical and emotional state.

The day of the news conference to announce the “This is It” tour in March 2009, AEG President Randy Phillips was with Jackson in his hotel suite in London. He wrote a frantic e-mail to his boss, AEG president Tim Leiweke, back in Los Angeles. “MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent. I am trying to sober him up. He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it is show time.” Jackson appeared at the news conference more than 90 minutes late, wearing dark glasses and speaking in a slow, slurred voice. “I just want to say that these will be my final show performances in London. This will be it and when I say this is it, I really mean this will be it!” And he began to giggle.

At that point in his career, Jackson hadn’t had a hit song in more than a decade and had a reputation for substance-abuse problems. Nonetheless, AEG entered into a contract agreement with Jackson that gave him a considerable amount of money upfront and an expensive mansion in which to live. In return, Jackson agreed that if he failed to perform AEG could legally seize his assets, including his portion of the Sony/ATV song catalogue with its lucrative future residuals from songs by The Beatles, Aretha Franklin, and the Jackson family, among others. He was some $400 million in debt. The pressure was on.

So that spring, when L.A. director and choreographer Kenny Ortega reported to the company that Jackson had failed to show up for rehearsals, AEG executives seemed to panic. They had a face-to-face confrontation at Jackson’s home with both the star and Dr. Murray. The pair promised better attendance. But the problems continued, and it looked as though the sold-out concert tour might have to be postponed—for a second time.

During this period, an e-mail from AEG co-CEO Paul Gongaware to Phillips read in part: “We are holding all the risk.” Gongaware had past dealings with Jackson, though, and he had a plan to handle their uncooperative star. “We let Mikey know just what this will cost him in terms of him making money…We cannot be forced into stopping this, which MJ will try to do because he is lazy and constantly changes his mind to fit his immediate wants.” This and other e-mails could be central to Katherine Jackson’s charge that the company knew of her son’s defenselessness and pressured him to the point where he had to resort to Propofol to deal with his chronic insomnia.

But the Jackson likely team believes that their smoking gun is in another email, this one sent 11 days before Jackson died, in which Gongaware wrote to Ortega: “We want to remind Murray that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him.” Calls to AEG’s legal team regarding this article were not returned, but lead lawyer Marvin Putnam told the Los Angeles Times in September, “Michael Jackson was an adult … and it is supercilious to say he was unable to take care of his own affairs.” Putnam also stated that the emails leaked to the Times were incomplete in a way that purposefully showed the company in a negative light.


The Daily Beast has learned that AEG’s legal team has been concentrating on documenting Michael Jackson’s past bad behaviors to show that his own family was not able to stop his self-destructive acts. In October, Putnam and his associate Adam Hunt travelled to Pennsylvania to interview author Stacy Brown. Brown, a former Jackson family friend, worked with Michael’s brother Jermaine on a tell-all book circulated in New York publishing houses in 2001 and 2002 but never published. Titled Legacy: Surviving the Best and the Worst, it was a shockingly candid look at what the family thought of their most famous member and his troubles with young boys and various substances.

Brown says the AEG lawyers zeroed in on this passage, written in Jermaine’s voice: “Michael’s drug use, I’m afraid is going to be a part of his legacy and there’s nothing we can do any longer to hide it. The Demerol, the vicodin, the percocet, codeine, the cocaine, the Jack Daniels, the wine. Does he really know what he does with these kids? …t is something that has concerned this family for more than two decades.” (Jermaine Jackson did not respond to requests for comment.)

The AEG lawyers asked repeated questions, according to Brown, about whether the family ever tried to force Michael to deal with his problems. “I told them that to my knowledge there were at least three interventions,” Brown said. The lawyers seemed particularly interested in the one that took place in New York in December 2001. “Katherine and Jermaine told me that MJ’s words were, ‘Leave me alone. I’ll be dead in a year.’ And right there he ordered his security team to never allow his family near him again or they’d be looking for other jobs.” Brown told the AEG team he did not want to testify at the trial. “I just don’t want to be in the same room with those people again,” he said. AEG’s lawyers could subpoena him.

Might Katherine Jackson, facing yet another slog of a trial dragging her family through very public mud, including details from her son's salacious child molestation trial, seek to shield her grandchildren from the unpleasantness and agree to settle out of court? After all, the children are already guaranteed an estate of about a billion dollars due to a post-mortem spike in Jackson music, film, and book sales.

“Settle? I doubt it,” said attorney Hennington. “AEG will likely never give in. They’re planning to show they did everything humanely possible to save Michael Jackson from himself. MJ was MJ’s own worst enemy.”
 
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We need to be informed and aware of what is being broadcast to the general public by the likes of Demon. So we can stay informed and come against anything and rebuttal her if necessary. There is so much BS above and misstating of facts it isn't even funny.
 
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we do understand your concern. But This is a specific forum created to discuss ALL thing that pertain to this trial. Diane demon is going to be covering this in the media and on CNN. She is a major part of the coverage now whether we like it or not. The Sr staff here will post whatever they feel necessary to keep our members informed. We are well aware of how the tabloid press works. but we feel in this case it is more important to stay informed here of what is being reported to the masses. In This specific forum . So please bare with us.
 
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With respect, if you don't know what is being said how can it be defended? Knowledge is power and forewarned is forearmed.
 
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I'd prefer seeing it posted here, rather than having any MJ fans going to that site and REPEATEDLY CLICKING on the article. Because whether we like it or not, there will be fans on this very site, who are interested in reading what Diamond has to say. Not because they like Diamond or anything, but because there are some fans who are interested in reading EVERYTHING associated with the name Michael Jackson.

I don't know, but "maybe" we can just post her articles without posting the link.
 
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Knowledge isn't always the truth, you have to know what an enemy says in order to disprove it. The only benefit to read it is to be aware of what is being put around, and certainly no MJ fan can learn anything from DD.
 
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Perhaps if her name is in red at the top of anything of hers that is posted, then each member can chose whether to read or not.
 
DD is hitting all the points she wants to make with her adjectives: "the late singer's DARKEST moments"; "his SHELTERED children"; "her son's SALACIOUS child molestation trial."

This part really makes MJ look good--NOT:
"Jackson appeared at the news conference more than 90 minutes late, wearing dark glasses and speaking in a slow, slurred voice. “I just want to say that these will be my final show performances in London. This will be it and when I say this is it, I really mean this will be it!” And he began to giggle."

And this:

"At that point in his career, Jackson hadn’t had a hit song in more than a decade and had a reputation for substance-abuse problems. Nonetheless, AEG entered into a contract agreement with Jackson that gave him a considerable amount of money upfront and an expensive mansion in which to live. In return, Jackson agreed that if he failed to perform AEG could legally seize his assets, including his portion of the Sony/ATV song catalogue with its lucrative future residuals from songs by The Beatles, Aretha Franklin, and the Jackson family, among others. He was some $400 million in debt. The pressure was on."

Is this accurate that SONY/ATV was part of the AEG contract? I thought it was not.

Why doesn't the family sue DD--she is more to blame than anyone else for MJ's death, except for Conrad of course. She is a blood sucker.
 
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With respect, if you don't know what is being said how can it be defended? Knowledge is power and forewarned is forearmed.
In this case Exactly .. she is a danger in times like this and has caused much damage already so we need to be on top of her like a fly on stink .. but fans need to post a REAL defense/rebuttal to the points in her articles and not foolish rants and silly name calling for attention etc etc .. Do it right so people who read her will take our rebuttals serious and not disregard us as rabid fans for attacking her.

I will remove the link to her article ..
 
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I would just like to take the time to thank everybody who has contributed to this portion of the board.

I have such a knot in my stomach, anxious as to what will come next. I'm just thankful that we have a place like this to come to in order to share our feelings and seek some comfort, if necessary.

We have a long road ahead of us, and I for one, will be needing EVERYBODY'S suport in order to get through this horrible ordeal.

That being said: Let The "Games" Begin!
 
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Brown says the AEG lawyers zeroed in on this passage, written in Jermaine’s voice: “Michael’s drug use, I’m afraid is going to be a part of his legacy and there’s nothing we can do any longer to hide it. The Demerol, the vicodin, the percocet, codeine, the cocaine, the Jack Daniels, the wine. Does he really know what he does with these kids? …t is something that has concerned this family for more than two decades.” (Jermaine Jackson did not respond to requests for comment.)


Jermaine isn't 'lying' in this supposed quote saying he saw stuff like latoya. He's saying that as his brother and as a family they believed that there was a possiblity that mj was a drug addled pedophile. HOw on earth are fans going to counter that charge to the general public, from his own family. Jermaine has been the only sibling that has really done anything to defend mj against the allegations and you want evidence to be shown that in 2001/2 he actually admits to having doubts and says the rest of the family did too?? This is exactly what haters like ddimond and stacy brown would want the public to think, that even his own family didn't presume mj to be innocent. And i'm certainly not going to believe the lies of ddimond and stacy brown - what proof does she offer? - a passage 'written in jermaine's voice' - that is exactly the line stacy brown fed about the bob jones book and was exposed as a liar by tmez in the trial.
 
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So Stacey claims he talked to AEG but he doesn't want to testify? that right there sounds like hogwash. Why doesn't he want to testify under oath to it? and why hasn't Stacey ever released those voice recordings with Jermaine's alleged interview? Jermaine has always denied ever saying that. Diane is scum.. I can't wait until she rots in hell
 
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I'm also on board the case must be televised to know the truth faster. None of us trust in the stupid biased media who will whatever their bosses order to say.

Can't that hag Demon leave Michael alone! What the f**k has the allegations to do with this civil lawsuit!?
 
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With respect, if you don't know what is being said how can it be defended? Knowledge is power and forewarned is forearmed.

This. Knowledge is power. Without knowing what is being said and hating blindly, fans would look like a bunch of crazy people.

Information is posted here. The necessary warnings are given (her name is bold and red). Don't read it if you don't want to read it.
 
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Our position is simple
- we know and understand issues with Diane Dimond - hence why her name is in red and bold. People can choose to read it or not.
- the article included new information about Jermaine's unreleased book. It prompted posting the article. Everyone can make their own mind to believe it or not.
- we can only debunk misinformation if we are aware of what is being said. hence such articles quite commonly get posted - at least at controversy section. We choose this section because we are trying to put everything about the KJ- AEG trial here for easy reference and finding.

This will be final time I'm addressing this issue.
 
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Was the Sony/ATV catalogue part of the assets AEG could take if MJ didn't fulfill the contract (as DD claimed)? Could someone answer please? Thanks.
 
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Stacy's already admitted the book proposal was originally positive, and then claims MJ sabotaged it anyway, and then claims that Jermaine's mistress Lawanda or something edited it in, then claims it was Nathaniel and who knows what else. It's obvious it was not written in 2003 and that no sane publisher would have resisted a book promising all that BS back then.

Stacy is a pathological liar, he encouraged Bob Jones to lie in 2005, he lied when he made internet posts about all of this in 2005, he lied about the juror's book and how he'd found them uncredible when in reality they sued to get out of the deal after he plagarised Maureen Orth's BS, he lied about the Jacksons various grocery store jobs in 2008, he lied about how MJ was addicted to heroin in 2009, he lied about how Katherine had to destroy some evidence of MJ's pedophilia in 2009. He even tries to claim now that the only reason he testified in 2005 was because otherwise Nathaniel Brown was going to testify, so he took his place to save Rebbie's marriage, the idiot thinks we don't know that he was only there to impeach Bob Jones.

He's a fantasist and a desperate one at that.

Do I believe Jermaine has said negative things about his brother? Yes. But no way in hell do I believe that he wrote all that crap circulated by Stacy. The cocaine thing is blatantly from what he'd heard about the evidence in 2005 too.

Stacy is a liar, and is too afraid to back his lies up in court.
 
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I wrote "Everyone can make their own mind to believe it or not. ". All I know is that quite a lot of people are interested in the unreleased book. This article has information about it. Every single person can choose to believe the information presented or not. At no times I claimed it to be true or credible. At no times I claimed to believe it but I wouldn't go around trying to belittle people who choose to believe it as well. This is a free world. Information is knowledge, knowledge is power. Here you are given an information, what you do with it is your own choice. As la_cienega did you can even debunk the so called information.
 
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^ I wasn't meaning to 'belittle' but to say that i was bemused by posters saying they thought it was a good idea to post ddimond articles so they could debunk them line by line, and then make it clear that they agreed with one of the damaging allegations made in it.
 
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AEG Live to put Michael Jackson on trial in own death
By Alan Duke
updated 7:25 PM EDT, Mon April 1, 2013

Katherine Jackson: Michael's mother, 82, was deposed for nine hours over three days by AEG Live lawyers. As the guardian of her son's three children, she is a plaintiff in the wrongful death lawsuit against the company that promoted Michael Jackson's comeback concerts.

Michael Jackson's mom and kids claim AEG Live is liable in his death
The suit accuses AEG Live of the negligent hiring of Dr. Conrad Murray
Murray was Jackson's employee, not AEG Live's, promoter's lawyer says
Jury selection begins Tuesday in a Los Angeles court

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's last concert promoter will defend itself in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by the pop icon's family by arguing that Jackson was responsible for his own demise.

Child molestation accusations against Jackson, for which he was acquitted after a trial, and evidence of his drug addiction will likely be presented by AEG Live's lawyers as they argue that the company had no liability in his death.

Jackson died two weeks before his "This Is It" comeback concerts, organized by AEG Live, were to have debuted in London in the summer of 2009.

"I don't know how you can't look to Mr. Jackson's responsibility there," AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam said. "He was a grown man." Putnam was interviewed for "Michael Jackson: The Final Days," a CNN documentary that will premiere at 10 p.m. Friday.

"Mr. Jackson is a person who was known to doctor shop," Putnam said. "He was known to be someone who would tell one doctor one thing and another doctor something else."

The child molestation trial is relevant because it "resulted in an incredible increase in his drug intake," Putnam said.

Jackson's eccentricities are fair game, AEG Live says
"We're talking about Michael Jackson," Putnam said. "This is a man who would show up in pajamas. This is a man who would stop traffic and get out and dance on top of his car. This is a man who would go to public events with a monkey named Bubbles. This is a man who said he slept in an oxygen chamber."

Lawyers for Jackson's mother, Katherine, and children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, argue that AEG Live is liable because the company hired and supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, who used a surgical anesthetic in a fatal effort to treat the singer's insomnia as he prepared for the comeback concerts. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and is serving a prison sentence.

Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos ruled in February that Jackson lawyers have shown enough evidence to warrant a jury trial on the negligent hiring case. She also ruled there was evidence to support the Jacksons' claim that AEG Live executives could have foreseen that Murray would use dangerous drugs in treating the singer.

The lawsuit seeks a judgment against AEG Live equal to the money Jackson would have earned over the course of his remaining lifetime if he had not died in 2009. If AEG Live is found liable, it could cost the company several billion dollars, according to estimates of Jackson's income potential. AEG Live is a subsidiary of AEG, a global entertainment company that was for sale recently with an $8 billion asking price.

The judge will hear arguments for television cameras in the Los Angeles courtroom just before jury selection starts Tuesday morning. While the Jackson lawyers are expected to support CNN's request to televise the trial, AEG lawyers say they are worried it could create a fan "frenzy" outside the courthouse.

The wrongful death trial, which could last several months, is expected to include testimony from Jackson's mother and his two oldest children, Prince and Paris.

Putnam questioned why their lawyers would call them to testify, suggesting it was "for the emotional response."

"I can't understand why bringing them to the stand has anything to do with whether or not Dr. Conrad Murray was hired by AEG or hired negligently. But perhaps they're bringing them to the stand for different reasons."

He bristled at the allegation, made by the Jackson lawyers in a court filing last month, that he was "behaving aggressively and erratically" in his questioning of Prince Jackson.

"We went out of our way to ensure we did precisely not that," Putnam said. "They may want to try to make the world believe that AEG Live is doing something inappropriate as to these children, but I'd ask the world to pause for a moment and look at what's actually happening here. They're the ones who are bringing this lawsuit and they're the ones who are saying they're going to put these children on the stand, something that I'm relatively certain their father would never, ever want to occur."

Jackson lawyers, he said, "are trying to sensationalize things that never happened" with their allegations about the way Prince was treated, he said. "I think in that scenario they're going to try to whip things up into a frenzy in the hopes that justice will not be served."

The only way AEG Live can lose the case, he said, "would be on an emotional basis outside of the facts."

Murray worked for Michael Jackson, not AEG, lawyer says

The key to AEG Live's defense is its contention that Murray was never an AEG employee but rather was chosen and paid by Michael Jackson for nearly four years until Jackson died.

While Murray has indicated he would invoke his Fifth Amendment right to avoid answering questions, Putnam pointed to the interview the doctor gave to police two days after Jackson's June 25, 2009, death. Murray told detectives it was his understanding that he was Jackson's employee, not AEG Live's, even though the concert promoter would be the party cutting his paychecks.

Conrad Murray says he won't testify in Jackson trial

"He was chosen by Michael Jackson," Putnam said. "He was brought to Los Angeles by Michael Jackson. He had been Michael Jackson's long-time physician and continued in that capacity and was directed by him and could only be fired at will by him."
AEG Live became involved with Murray only after Jackson had persuaded him to join his "tour party" for the "This Is It" concerts, Putnam said. "Then what happens is AEG starts to go back and forth with him and his attorney, Dr. Conrad Murray, with drafts of contracts."

Although Murray began treating Jackson six days a week in May, it was only the night before Jackson's death that Murray signed a contract. AEG executives and Jackson never signed it, Putnam said. The Jackson lawyers will argue the signed contract was not necessary to establish employment.

The unsigned contract and the oral understanding with Murray called for the doctor to be paid $150,000 a month while he served as Jackson's personal physician while he performed 50 shows at London's O2 Arena in the second half of 2009 and into 2010.
AEG's role was like MasterCard, lawyer says

AEG Live's role with Murray was only to "forward" money owed to him by Jackson, just as a patient would use their "MasterCard," Putnam said. "If you go to your doctor and you pay with a credit card, obviously MasterCard in that instance, depending on your credit card, is providing the money to that doctor for services until you pay it back. Now, are you telling them MasterCard in some measure in that instance, did MasterCard hire the doctor or did you? Well, clearly you did. I think the analogy works in this instance."
In fact, Putnam said, he learned during the discovery process that Michael Jackson was paying Murray during the last two months of his life. "He was paying for him during his entire time in Los Angeles and during the time we're talking about, Dr. Conrad Murray was being paid by Michael Jackson," he said. "We know this. We know this because the plaintiffs have said so."

The revelation that Jackson paid Murray during that period has not been reported. Jackson lawyers declined to comment, citing ethical limitations to their ability to talk to the media about the case.

E-mails reveal AEG's involvement, Jacksons say

A cornerstone of the Jacksons' case is an e-mail AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote 11 days before Jackson's death. The e-mail to show director Kenny Ortega addressed concerns that Murray had kept Jackson from a rehearsal the day before: "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."
Jackson lawyers argue the e-mail is evidence that AEG Live used Murray's fear of losing his lucrative job as Jackson's personal physician to pressure him to have Jackson ready for rehearsals despite his fragile health.

The AEG Live lawyers say the Jackson lawyers have "taken it completely out of context." Gongaware and the others were only concerned with making sure Murray had all the help he needed, such as perhaps a physical therapist or a nutritionist for his patient, Putnam said.

Alleged 'smoking gun' e-mail revealed

"Not only was there no such pressure, there couldn't be in a professional relationship," Putnam said in his CNN interview. "To say that that was the case would say that a doctor in some measure was not abiding by his Hippocratic Oath. If there's a professional who's providing a service for you, others outside of that professional relationship may go to that person, as you might any doctor and say, 'Are you doing all the things necessary for Mr. Jackson?' That doesn't apply pressure or control."

Ortega, who had worked closely with Jackson on previous tours, sounded a loud warning about his health after Jackson showed up for a rehearsal shivering just over a week before his death. He wrote in an e-mail to AEG Live President Randy Phillips: "It is like there are two people there. One (deep inside) trying to hold on to what he was and still can be and not wanting us to quit him, the other in this weakened and troubled state. I believe we need professional guidance in this matter."

In the e-mail, which was disclosed during Ortega's testimony at Murray's criminal trial, the show director also said he was worried about "real emotional stuff" Jackson appeared to be dealing with. "Everything in me says he should be psychologically evaluated," he wrote. Ortega said Jackson had "strong signs of paranoia, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior" and suggested they hire a "top psychiatrist in to evaluate him ASAP."

AEG Live worried about the flu, not drugs, lawyer says

The Ortega e-mail was not sounding an alarm about Jackson's health but just telling Phillips that Jackson was suffering "flu-like symptoms," Putnam said.

"Mr. Jackson was not in a position to get up on the stage and do the rehearsal because he had flu-like symptoms," Putnam said. "He was cold, he was shaky and as a result he didn't perform that evening."

"People were worried about that flu," so AEG Live executives called a meeting with Jackson and Murray the next day at Jackson's home to discuss it, he said.

"So Mr. Phillips went to that meeting at Mr. Jackson's home, that would be on the 20th of June, that's five days before Mr. Jackson passed," Putnam said. "And they got there, and Mr. Jackson was emphatic about the idea that he was great. 'You guys are all worrying about nothing. Look at me. I am fine.'"

Phillips sent Ortega a glowing endorsement of Murray: "This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he is totally unbiased and ethical."

The flu scare was one of only "a couple of occasions" that AEG Live's president had to be concerned about Jackson's health, Putnam said.

Other than "little instances like that," there "was nothing that ultimately gave rise any time before Mr. Jackson's death that there was any problem with Mr. Jackson," he said.

AEG Live would not have rushed Jackson, lawyer says

If there had been a health problem with Jackson, AEG Live would have had no problem postponing the start of the tour, he said.
"AEG Live had already moved the concerts because they weren't going to be ready in time for early July because of the number of set pieces Mr. Jackson wanted," he said. "There would be no rush for AEG Live to have to get to the stage by, I think at that point, by July 13th. If there was a problem here AEG wanted to know there was a problem because they could simply move the concerts."

The 50 shows were to be spread out over a year in the O2 Arena, which AEG owned and controlled, he said. "AEG had no interest in rushing to get to July 13th. On the contrary, if there was an issue they would have wanted to know."

What did Randy Phillips know?

An earlier e-mail leaked to the Los Angeles Times last year suggests that AEG Live's president saw Jackson's problems first-hand the day the pop star was to appear at the O2 Arena to publicly announce the shows. "MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent," Phillips wrote in a March 5, 2009, e-mail to AEG Live's parent company, the paper reported. "I (am) trying to sober him up."
"I screamed at him so loud the walls are shaking," Phillips wrote. "He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it is show time."

Despite this, Putnam insisted that Phillips was "incredibly impressed" and "saw a really engaged, interested, very smart, and savvy Michael Jackson."

Michael Jackson's assistant accuses promoter
The AEG Live chief had only "certain limited encounters" with Jackson in the months leading up to the scheduled shows, but he did get glowing reports, Putnam said. "Mr. Phillips kept hearing from various people in the tour party from rehearsals, and practices and meetings with various promoters, meetings with people who were going to do clothes, makeup, things of that nature," he said. "It was the same, that Mr. Jackson was incredibly engaged, was incredibly interested and seemed great."

AEG Live executives also had "no indication at any point that there was a problem with Conrad Murray," Putnam said. "He was licensed in four states. He had never been reprimanded. There were no indicators or warning signs of a problem. "

"Mr. Phillips had met him once, and he seemed quite happy that this was a fine, outstanding doctor in all appearances and he liked that fact," Putnam said. "And he liked that fact that he didn't appear to be a sycophant."

Trial judge thinks Jackson may have a case

Palazuelos, in her ruling rejecting an AEG Live's request to have the case thrown out, said she agreed that the Jackson lawyers had provided evidence that AEG Live didn't do "a sufficient background check of Dr. Murray, which would have established that Murray was deeply in debt."

Jackson's previous relationship with Murray, who treated him and his children for minor illnesses in Las Vegas, did not relieve AEG Live of liability, "although the fact may be relevant in determining proportional liability and damages," she said.

While the AEG Live lawyers argued the company could not have foreseen that Murray might use dangerous drugs on Jackson in preparation for the tour, Palazuelos said there was evidence that Gongaware had "previous tour experiences" with Jackson in which "tour doctors" gave "large amounts of drugs/controlled substances to him."

Gongaware testified in Murray's trial that he worked as tour manager for Jackson's "Dangerous" and "History" tours before joining AEG Live. The judge cited "Gongaware's general knowledge of the ethical issues surrounding 'tour doctors' and the practice of administering drugs to performing artists."

"There is a triable issue of fact as to whether it was foreseeable that such a physician under strong financial pressure may compromise his Hippocratic Oath and do what was known by AEG Live's executives to be an unfortunate practice in the entertainment industry for financial gain," the judge wrote.

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Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

AEG and the Jacksons are putting Michael on trial nice try Duke
 
Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

When Gongaware testified in murray's trial,that he was MJ manager in Dangerous and History tours, did he testify that MJ was using drugs on D and H tour?
 
Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Alan Duke is such a kiss ass
 
Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

AEG better be careful of putting MJ on trial.. you don't put the dead man on trial
 
Jackson appeared at the news conference more than 90 minutes late, wearing dark glasses and speaking in a slow, slurred voice. “I just want to say that these will be my final show performances in London. This will be it and when I say this is it, I really mean this will be it!” And he began to giggle.

Well, thank God there's a video of the press conference so we know this is a lie. This right here is the reason why I think it might be a good thing if cameras were allowed in the court room. Of course I'd prefer nobody see this awful trial, but unfortunately the fact is that the media will report on it and twist everything. I'd rather see the video for myself than having to rely on the media.
 
Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

What does Michael's assistant said about AEG?

I know AEG has to go full force but, what does Michael going with Bubbles to dinners, etc, has to do with the trial?

Does anyone knows who said Michael was paying Conrad?

I have another question. If I remember correctly during Conrad trial it was HLN & Court TV that showed the trial completly, Did CNN also show it completly? I prefer the trial to be televised, so people don't get what the reporters want them to hear but I wish it is shown in its entirety.
 
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