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^Why is this relevant in a civil trial about money?

the details are irrelevant. They just want to mention molestation charges as a factor affecting Michael's popularity and to rebut that he could have earned $40 billion.
 
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I'm going to make an update about Paris's responses to interrogatories / written questions

Paris states Michael was happy about the ticket presales for TII tour & excited about the tour & he wanted concert footage to be 3D

Paris also states that Michael told her schedule for TII was "too much" for him and "Phillips and them were out to get me"

Paris says she saw Michael drinking red wine (making him sleepy), taking Tylenol & Advil, medicine before he flies, IV fluids& herbal shakes

Paris says she believed IV fluids for nutrition and she's only familiar with Internet rumors about Michael's alleged "drug addiction"

Paris says Michael told her not to take drugs because it would keep them from being healthy and productive.

Paris says one week before his death Michael was complaining about his body temperature would fluctuate from hot to cold.

Paris says within 2 days before his death Michael said to her Tohme was back on board because he had helped Michael with a house in Las Vegas.

Paris says Michael told her he wanted to do movies (write, direct, act) , combine his music catalog with movies and move to LV after tour.

Paris says she applied a white cream to Michael's back and shoulders. She tells how the hang out together in LA & Las Vegas.

Paris says Michael encouraged them to read. If they wanted a toy, they needed to read books to get it. Once Paris read 3 books over a weekend and Michael bought her a cat.

Paris says Michael told her "you need to be tough or people will take advantage of you".

Paris says Michael said he trusted Dr. Murray and he liked Dr. Klein as a friend. Michael also said he liked Dr. Sabe, a holistic healer
 
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^^Three months--so this is going to be longer than the case where no one got money, i.e., the Murray trial. Paris said Michael said Thome is back on board 2 days before his death. What is this going to do to the Thome case now.
 
Judge sets rules for lawsuit by Michael Jackson’s mother over doctor’s hiring

Matt Sayles, File/Associated Press - FILE - In this April 27, 2011 file photo, Katherine Jackson poses for a portrait in Calabasas, Calif. A Los Angeles judge set the stage Thursday, March 21, 2013, for trial of a civil suit by Michael Jackson’s mother against concert giant AEG Live. Katherine Jackson claims the company negligently hired the doctor later convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the singer’s death.
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By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, March 21, 9:09 PM

LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles judge set the stage Thursday for trial of a civil suit by Michael Jackson’s mother against concert giant AEG Live.

Katherine Jackson claims the company negligently hired the doctor later convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the singer’s death and failed to oversee him. She and the singer’s two eldest children are expected to testify about the singer’s last days.


Legal rulings by Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos anticipated a three-month trial that will revisit events preceding the singer’s death from an anesthetic overdose in 2009.

Dr. Conrad Murray, who was convicted of manslaughter for administering the drug propofol, is not named in the lawsuit. But the judge agreed to allow him to be brought to court from jail to testify outside the jury’s presence. He has said he would invoke his Fifth Amendment right not to testify. But lawyers said he could possibly talk about non-criminal issues.

The judge said jury selection would begin April 2 and attorneys estimated the search for a panel could be long and difficult because of the notoriety of the parties and the estimated length of the trial.

The judge granted several plaintiff’s motions and rejected a few.

She refused to bar AEG from raising the subject of child molestation charges against Jackson from years ago. Lawyers for his mother claim it’s irrelevant because he was acquitted.

Katherine Jackson’s attorney, Kevin Boyle, argued that “There is nothing more prejudicial than dropping that bomb in court, mentioning child molestation.”

But Palazuelos said she would allow testimony that Jackson became despondent and reliant on drugs because of the charges.

She refused to approve inquiry into the finances of Jackson’s siblings and barred any testimony about a claim that Katherine Jackson was kidnapped by family members and taken to Arizona last year.

She wouldn’t permit AEG lawyers to ask questions about possible discord in the marriage of Katherine and Joe Jackson and she barred any inquiry into the identity of the biological parents of Jackson’s three children.

Katherine Jackson’s suit seeks hundreds of millions of dollars from AEG including $200 million in non-economic damages, including emotional distress.

The case centers on whether AEG did an appropriate investigation of Murray and whether they controlled him while he was preparing Jackson for a series of concerts in London.

During arguments, the question arose of why Katherine Jackson did not sue Murray. Attorneys disclosed that Jackson’s son Prince and his daughter, Paris, testified in depositions that they believed Murray was “a good person” and didn’t want him sued. But Katherine Jackson, who had the decision, testified it was financial, they said.

The judge said AEG could have sued Murray as well.

“The same questions can be asked of you,” she told AEG lawyers. “Why didn’t you sue him?”

“Because we’re not required to,” attorney Marvin Putnam said.

The judge called the issue “a side show.”

“He has no money and that’s why they’re not suing him,” Putnam said.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...326338-928d-11e2-9173-7f87cda73b49_story.html
 
Re: AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine Jackson lawsuit

I feel sick. I hate this whole thing.
 
So these rules mean AEG's lawyers can ask about the allowance?

"During arguments, the question arose of why Katherine Jackson did not sue Murray. Attorneys disclosed that Jackson’s son Prince and his daughter, Paris, testified in depositions that they believed Murray was “a good person” and didn’t want him sued. But Katherine Jackson, who had the decision, testified it was financial, they said.

Katherine is saying the reason to sue was money? And I thought it was about justice.
 
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That comment about not suing Murray for money reasons is just heartbreaking. Damn did she even love Michael?
 
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Nothing about this is for justice for Michael. Michael is going to get dragged through the mud again. These kids should not be doing depositions. They should be focusing on school and their activities. The media is just going to have a field day with this. I feel like Michael will be the one on trial here. This is not worth it. I wish Katherine would stop this now.
 
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^^When someone is not telling them what they say, the Jacksons always say exactly what is on their mind, and then you get to see what they are thinking & what their motives are. That is why I would love Katherine to be on the witness stand. She cannot think on her feet & would speak the truth and be the cause of the family losing the case. Notice how LaToya, Jermaine, Katherine always spill the beans. When they read statements is usually when they are telling lies.
 
ivy;3794566 said:
the details are irrelevant. They just want to mention molestation charges as a factor affecting Michael's popularity and to rebut that he could have earned $40 billion.
I Still think that their over doing it with wanting this in. If they believed MJ popularity wasn't good, why want him for the 02 then? Sellin 50 shows kinda proved his popularity was just fine. There are other ways they could show why he wouldn't have made 40 billion.

Katherine Jackson’s attorney, Kevin Boyle, argued that “There is nothing more prejudicial than dropping that bomb in court, mentioning child molestation.”
AGREE!

But Palazuelos said she would allow testimony that Jackson became despondent and reliant on drugs because of the charges.

The Autopsy begs to differ about "drugs." But I guess everyone is gonna ignore that....even in a court room! :doh:
 
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My 10 cents:

I'm torn about this lawsuit. On one hand I HATE that Katherine and especially the children have to go through this, not to mention bringing up hurtful things about Michael.

However, on the other hand, SO many people got away with taking advantage of Michael through the years...I'm glad to see some big-wigs on the receiving end of a lawsuit for a change and have to defend themselves. Just the fact that it wasn't dismissed carries some weight, and they are gonna have to spend their time and money to defend/settle or whatever the case ends up being, just as Michael had to do umpteen times over in life.

We all know that it's not about Murray. They would have pushed and pressured the Doc & Michael regardless of who his doctor was. And, it's clear that the intent was there to hire Murray, the signing of the contract was just a formality in this case, as he was already on the job as they were already giving him orders.

The point is that they put $$$ over Michael's well being, in spite of warnings. It's the principal.

I'll just be glad when it's ALL over.
 
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Paris says within 2 days before his death Michael said to her Tohme was back on board because he had helped Michael with a house in Las Vegas.

:bugeyed
I guess this doesn't harm the estates case against Tohme, because Paris says 2 days before MJ's death, Tohme was BACK, meaning he was fired.


Paris says Michael encouraged them to read. If they wanted a toy, they needed to read books to get it. Once Paris read 3 books over a weekend and Michael bought her a cat.

:wub:

Paris says Michael told her "you need to be tough or people will take advantage of you".

I hope Paris applies that lesson to people close to home, for example Jackson's.

Paris says Michael said he trusted Dr. Murray and he liked Dr. Klein as a friend. Michael also said he liked Dr. Sabe, a holistic healer.

and that trust MJ placed on CM cost his life.


Katherine Jackson's lawyers objected to the appearance of Dr. Conrad Murray as a witness, but the judge said he could testify without the jury present.

Interesting that it is Jackson's that objected CM's testifying.


During arguments, the question arose of why Katherine Jackson did not sue Murray. Attorneys disclosed that Jackson’s son Prince and his daughter, Paris, testified in depositions that they believed Murray was “a good person” and didn’t want him sued. But Katherine Jackson, who had the decision, testified it was financial, they said.

To Jackson's justice equals $$$$$$
 
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During arguments, the question arose of why Katherine Jackson did not sue Murray. Attorneys disclosed that Jackson’s son Prince and his daughter, Paris, testified in depositions that they believed Murray was “a good person” and didn’t want him sued.
:mello:WTF? A good person? That's disappointing to read, they can't possibly believe that?! :blink: Hmm...Maybe that's how they remembered Murray when he was around them in 09 as MJs doc?! But how can they think that of him now after they found out he left MJ to die cause he was to busy on the phone. Murray is a selfish bastard, far from a good person! He lied about his treatment to MJ when EMTs & Doctors were trying to save their father's life. He also refuses to take ANY responsibility. In his documentary he says MJ used him, Murray playing the victim.

Seriously what have the Jacksons been telling these kids?

But Katherine Jackson, who had the decision, testified it was financial, they said.
I Guess this is my answer!? :censored::angry:
 
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the details are irrelevant. They just want to mention molestation charges as a factor affecting Michael's popularity and to rebut that he could have earned $40 billion.

Personally, the fact that they want to bring this up at all makes me sick. I have been a fan of Michael for almost my entire life. But I am not blind to the effect the allegations had on his career. Whether people like Michael or not, they already know that mess played a huge part in his decline in popularity. How many times do people have to be told that Michael was not as liked as before because of that awful drama?
 
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The jacksons claim mj would make 40 bill. aeg have the right to say thats not true. and even
though mathmatically its impossible aeg are using the above as evidence. personally i hardly thinkthe ruling matters aeg will say the alkegations effected money making ability and thats it. its not like they are gonna go into details
 
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My 10 cents:

I'm torn about this lawsuit. On one hand I HATE that Katherine and especially the children have to go through this, not to mention bringing up hurtful things about Michael.

However, on the other hand, SO many people got away with taking advantage of Michael through the years...I'm glad to see some big-wigs on the receiving end of a lawsuit for a change and have to defend themselves. Just the fact that it wasn't dismissed carries some weight, and they are gonna have to spend their time and money to defend/settle or whatever the case ends up being, just as Michael had to do umpteen times over in life.

I wouldn't feel bad on mrs j's behalf - it was entirely her decision to go ahead with it and she would have been warned by the estate that it was a bad idea.

So because so many people have betrayed mj in his life, it's good that we have this lawsuit? A lawsuit where both sides are going to trash mj's reputation? Aeg are just going to defend themselves against being unaware of knowing mj was a self-destructive drug addict battling massive demons while the family will be claiming they should have been aware. MJ went into a contract with aeg for a series of concerts with a manager and a phalanx of lawyers - they were the ones who were meant to be looking out for his best interests. Aeg are just the concert promotors. If i wanted a 'principled' lawsuit against the people who did do untold damage to mj and took advantage of him - i would have a long list of people headed by the chandlers, the arvizos, the media, all those managers who stole and sued mj, and yes, members of the jackson family, long before i got to aeg.

And just because there is one narrow charge of hiring and supervision remaining out of this huge big wrongful death suit, doesn't give this case 'credibililty' if the issues for granting it are so tenuous and frankly ridiculous.
 
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Paris Jackson Deposed In Katherine Jackson’s Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against AEG

UPDATE: 1:43 p.m. PDT: Paris Jackson is about to begin her deposition, and is wearing a blue top, jeans, and brown Ugg boots. TJ Jackson, her co-guardian, is also with her

Michael Jackson‘s daughter, Paris, is being deposed Thursday afternoon in Los Angeles in connection with a wrongful death lawsuit her grandmother, Katherine Jackson, filed against concert promoter, AEG, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Katherine contends that AEG was responsible for her son’s death because they were responsible for hiring Dr. Conrad Murray to be his physician.

“The deposition will take place in a private interview room that is big enough to accomodate lawyers for Katherine, and AEG, beginning at 1:30,” a source tells RadarOnline.com exclusively.

“The deposition could go all day. Even though Paris isn’t expected to testify at the trial, AEG wanted to take her deposition because she is a co-Plaintiff in the case.

Prince Jackson, Michael’s oldest child, “was also deposed last week, and it didn’t go well for him. In fact the proceedings grew so intense for Prince, that a break was called, and it had to resume the next day,” the insider tells us".

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-aeg-exclusive/
 
Re: AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine Jackson lawsuit

So because so many people have betrayed mj in his life, it's good that we have this lawsuit? A lawsuit where both sides are going to trash mj's reputation? Aeg are just going to defend themselves against being unaware of knowing mj was a self-destructive drug addict battling massive demons while the family will be claiming they should have been aware. MJ went into a contract with aeg for a series of concerts with a manager and a phalanx of lawyers - they were the ones who were meant to be looking out for his best interests. Aeg are just the concert promotors. If i wanted a 'principled' lawsuit against the people who did do untold damage to mj and took advantage of him - i would have a long list of people headed by the chandlers, the arvizos, the media, all those managers who stole and sued mj, and yes, members of the jackson family, long before i got to aeg.

Amen! Amen!
 
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This entire thing is making me sick to my stomach!

I keep thinking of Michael and how protective he was of his children. He ALWAYS put them first. Their well-being was his main concern, in my opinion.

Now his family is feeding those children to the lions, in my opinion. I just can't get over it!

They have made those children the face of this lawsuit all because of the mighty dollar. Mother admitted as much. We all knew it, but now she is on record declaring it. (Side note: when the Jacksons speak, they are their own worse enemy. Mother once again proved that point.)
 
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This entire thing is making me sick to my stomach!

I keep thinking of Michael and how protective he was of his children. He ALWAYS put them first. Their well-being was his main concern, in my opinion.

Now his family is feeding those children to the lions, in my opinion. I just can't get over it!

They have made those children the face of this lawsuit all because of the mighty dollar. Mother admitted as much. We all knew it, but now she is on record declaring it. (Side note: when the Jacksons speak, they are their own worse enemy. Mother once again proved that point.)

I agree, and I feel them same way. I also really don't like this judge, calling Murray restitution a 'side-show', asking why AEG didn't sue him. It's not a side-show when it's clear, even from KJ, that the reason they are bringing this suit is MONEY, the very reason they didn't go after CM was that he didn't have any, that to me is very relevant indeed.

I'm just so damn cross today.
 
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I also really don't like this judge, calling Murray restitution a 'side-show', asking why AEG didn't sue him.

For now, I'm just gonna watch Ms. Judge with my "side-eye."

I'm a bit upset that she denied the cubs financial situations to be admitted, BUT she did dismiss 4 of the 5 claims, so I'm gonna give her Big Ups for that.

This entire thing is a nightmare, but the nightmare would have been 100-times worse if ALL of the claims had remained in the lawsuit.

Man, but I really wanted those cubs to be on the hot seat. Not trying to be mean, just keeping it real!
 
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When you look at it you will see the cubs are not the ones suing it is Katherine and the kids so they are the main focus. We feel that the judge is this or that because we want to see the cubs get it for once but what we want is not what the law is
 
But Katherine Jackson, who had the decision, testified it was financial, they said.
it's not like the Jacksons had to sue Murray to get the restitution. The judge already gave them the restitution and asked the DA to provide the number (100 million), Katherine refused in the last minutes after DA's hard working. So Katherine admitted she wanted to get the real $$$$ from the billionaire's pocket, justice of Michael and stopping murray trash and capitalize on Michael's death means nothing to her.

During arguments, the question arose of why Katherine Jackson did not sue Murray. Attorneys disclosed that Jackson’s son Prince and his daughter, Paris, testified in depositions that they believed Murray was “a good person” and didn’t want him sued.
This is so depressing if true. those kids had been brainwashed and misled by the Jacksons. They are clueless of what happened. If this is before their father's death, I don't blame them of thinking positive of conrat Murray but now they still think good of him? it's unbelievable and shameful. Not only him recklessly killed their father, he also trashed him and made the outrageous mockermentary of their father.
 
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When you look at it you will see the cubs are not the ones suing it is Katherine and the kids so they are the main focus. We feel that the judge is this or that because we want to see the cubs get it for once but what we want is not what the law is

The majority of this board is what we want, i.e. "OUR opinions." So what's your point.

I, personally, feel if the family thinks AEG was putting pressure on Michael, what were they doing in their constant quest, or should I say, their constant BEGGING for Michael to join them on stage, or join them in some going nowhere business deal. That in my opinion, was also pressure.

But it's all good, I won't be surprised if AEG is able to get some of that in, either through their opening statements or questioning of the various family members (or other witnesses for that matter), when the time is right.
 
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I wouldn't feel bad on mrs j's behalf - it was entirely her decision to go ahead with it and she would have been warned by the estate that it was a bad idea.

So because so many people have betrayed mj in his life, it's good that we have this lawsuit? A lawsuit where both sides are going to trash mj's reputation? Aeg are just going to defend themselves against being unaware of knowing mj was a self-destructive drug addict battling massive demons while the family will be claiming they should have been aware. MJ went into a contract with aeg for a series of concerts with a manager and a phalanx of lawyers - they were the ones who were meant to be looking out for his best interests. Aeg are just the concert promotors. If i wanted a 'principled' lawsuit against the people who did do untold damage to mj and took advantage of him - i would have a long list of people headed by the chandlers, the arvizos, the media, all those managers who stole and sued mj, and yes, members of the jackson family, long before i got to aeg.

And just because there is one narrow charge of hiring and supervision remaining out of this huge big wrongful death suit, doesn't give this case 'credibililty' if the issues for granting it are so tenuous and frankly ridiculous.

First off, I said I'm TORN about the case.

Second, that means that I do not disagree with most of your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Third, I did not say the case was given "credibility", I said "the fact that it wasn't dismissed carries SOME weight", which means, let a judge & jury decide.

Ultimately, it's not about what you, I, or any of us wants.

Lastly, I understand your frustrations, but don't take it out on me.
 
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the judge won't allow any party to trash or degrade anyone but Michael. Every rule she has made points to this. She kept that baseless charge so the trial could proceed and as a result MJ get trashed , she does think so low of him based on the remarks she always makes.

why AEG did not ask for AllGood fiasco to be admitted into the trial ? It ruins Katherine's argument .
 
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Bubs;3794722 said:
Katherine Jackson's lawyers objected to the appearance of Dr. Conrad Murray as a witness, but the judge said he could testify without the jury present.

Interesting that it is Jackson's that objected CM's testifying.


During arguments, the question arose of why Katherine Jackson did not sue Murray. Attorneys disclosed that Jackson’s son Prince and his daughter, Paris, testified in depositions that they believed Murray was “a good person” and didn’t want him sued. But Katherine Jackson, who had the decision, testified it was financial, they said.

To Jackson's justice equals $$$$$$

I wonder if it's not a mystake from the journalist.
 
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I wonder if it's not a mystake from the journalist.

Personally, I doubt it's an error.

I mean, this is the same woman who said, when questioned about her dealings with Mann, it should not be considered greed. She said "it's not greed, it's need."

In my opinion, for the Jacksons it's ALWAYS about money. So her saying "it was financial" is not a shock. I'm just surprised that she would put it out there like that. You know since they are always claiming that this case is about JUSTICE for Michael. Yeah right!!!
 
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I think Ivy said that article was taken direct from he court papers, so I don't think it's a mistake.
 
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