[ Pretrial Discussion Closed ] AEG files summary judgment motion to dismiss Katherine's lawsuit

[Petrarose]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Prometheus77 good for you & peace & out.

Ivy any news about that question I asked you?

 

[MsMo]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

No. I don't. As I don't see black or white. I see greys. I don't condemn the Jacksons for this lawsuit. I don't particularly agree with it, but I can see why they are doing it. And whatever people may think about the sum they're asking. At least there is a trial. There might be some more answers to what has happened beyond Murray.

And I don't know what glasses you wear to see what you see, but I see that people view this thing totally black or white. To them there is no middle ground and the Jacksons are devils and only after money.

:yes:

 

[AliCat]

Rules set in lawsuit over Michael Jackson's death
Mar 22, 2013, 7:18am MDT

but the judge said she would allow testimony about how the singer became despondent and reliant on drugs because of the allegations.

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/morning_call/2013/03/rules-set-in-lawsuit-over-michael.html



Paula Zahn: Raymone Bain Blasts Uri Gellar, Maureen Orth (June 3 2005)
« on: June 04, 2005, 03:04:28 am »
PAULA ZAHN NOW

Koran Abuse Report; James Earl Jones Interview; Michael Jackson\'s Moment of Truth; James Earl Jones Returns to Broadway

Aired June 3, 2005 - 20:00 ET


As Jackson, his family and friends wait for the verdict, I\'m joined tonight by Jackson\'s friend and spokeswoman Raymone Bain.

Always good to see you. Welcome back.

First of all, your reaction to some of what Maureen Orth is reporting, that Michael Jackson is a man who is dependent upon drugs. Even Tom Mesereau has admitted that he has a prescription drug problem. And then there is an alcohol dependency charged in this piece.

(CROSSTALK)

RAYMONE BAIN, JACKSON FAMILY SPOKESPERSON: Well, first of all, Paula, thanks for having me on.

Let me deal with Uri Geller. It is my understanding, I just heard Uri Geller say that Michael Jackson didn\'t listen to anybody. It was Uri Geller who introduced Michael Jackson to Martin Bashir and who encouraged Michael Jackson to do a seven-month interview with Martin Bashir. So, I really think Mr. Geller should go somewhere and sit down and be quiet.

(CROSSTALK)

ZAHN: You\'re not suggesting he was setting up Michael Jackson, are you?

BAIN: I\'m not suggesting that. But this man just said on your show that Michael Jackson doesn\'t listen to anybody. Well, he listened to him. He\'s the one who said, I think you should conduct this interview with Martin Bashir for seven or eight months. My goodness. What kind of -- who would suggest that to a friend, seven or eight months to let some journalist follow you around?

And he\'s now saying, Michael doesn\'t listen. Well, he listened to him and it was to his detriment. So, we would like to respectfully request that maybe Mr. Geller should be quiet for a little while and just sit back and be quiet.

(CROSSTALK)

ZAHN: Let\'s come back to the broader issue of how Michael Jackson lives, because there are a lot of people who feel, because of his celebrity and because of some of the reclusiveness that he has endured over the last couple of years, that he does live in a cocoon.

BAIN: Well, let me just deal with Ms. Orth.

Tom Mesereau did not say Michael Jackson was hooked on prescription drugs. Tom Mesereau has said publicly in court that Michael Jackson drinks socially, that is something that he has done, and that he had put in cans, so that kids would not see him. He has never said publicly that Michael Jackson is addicted to prescription drugs. She should be ashamed of herself.

I have read \"CSI: Neverland.\" And I\'m going to tell you, Paula, I am appalled at that, too. This is the same lady who, like, three or four years ago, said that Michael Jackson spent $100,000 to bathe in cow\'s blood to kill two or three people. And Michael Jackson can\'t stand the sight of blood, nevertheless bathe in it.

It would behoove all of them to just sit back. I don\'t understand why people are trying to make so much money and so much fame and fortune off of Michael Jackson. They claim they detest him. They claim that he\'s this weird individual whom they can\'t stand. But, yet, all of this is about money. It is about Maureen\'s article, Maureen\'s book, Uri Geller getting out here 15 minutes of fame. Everybody is trashing Michael Jackson.

(CROSSTALK)

ZAHN: The alleged web goes further than that, because there have been accounts that Michael Jackson actually admitted to his former ranch manager that he had a prescription drug problem.

BAIN: That\'s not true.

ZAHN: Or Tom Mesereau mentioned that.

BAIN: And I would like -- no, he did not.

I would like to see that script, because Tom Mesereau did not say that. I would like to see that transcript from court, because he did not say that. He said publicly that Michael Jackson drinks socially. But Michael Jackson is doing fine, Paula. He has a great faith in God. He has a great faith in the justice system. He\'s at Neverland with his family. He\'s going to be waiting out the jury\'s decision.

He feels, as I\'ve said, that his -- throughout the last several months, that his defense team is doing an excellent job and have done an excellent job. Tom Mesereau\'s closing arguments were fabulous. And Michael is there with his family at Neverland. He\'s feeling fine. And he\'s just waiting now for the jury to come back with a decision.

ZAHN: And we are waiting right along with him and members of both of the prosecution team and the defense team.

Raymone Bain, thank you so much for your time tonight. We appreciate it.

BAIN: And thank you for having me.

ZAHN: Our pleasure.
http://community.mjeol.com/index.php?topic=4185.0

Raymone Bain has always stated that Michael Jackson did not take drugs. Perhaps AEG should have her testify to that fact since Raymone Bain worked for Michael Jackson during the trail and thereafter!

 

[Bubs]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Big Apple I think you have something there--that Prince was giving answers that would help AEG's side. I can't think of a better reason, since we know AEG provided the tapes which will show what happened. But how foolish the family side could be to make such statements when they knew the depositions are recorded & taped? Simple unscrupulous people.

Jackson's side is trying to fight this trial in tabloids. They are trying to influence on potential jury members by releasing emails, feeding Alan D that big bad AEG is putting the blame of the email leak on poor Blanket, and now they are trying to say that AEG was hard on Prince during his deposition. Seemingly AEG feels that they have strong case as they are not replying on Jackson's side accusations vie tabloids.

"It is further my understanding that Prince J deposition was conducted properly.
A true and correct copy of Prince J deposition transcript is hereto as Exhibit Q.
In addition, a true and correct copy of video of Prince J deposition is attached hereto as Exhibit R"

 

[bad25]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Katherine is close to 80 already? how many more years does she still have on this earth? why dont she just get herself out of the drama and just live normally and enjoy the serenity of life? ppl are just greedy want $$$ and more $$$ and what's the point of it when you can't enjoy it or already have more than enough of it?

 

[bad25]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Even if MJ died because of AEG's purposely ignoring his health problem or whateever problem he had. He is now dead and nothing will bring him back.

 

[Bubs]

Finally finished reading 138 pages of AEG's motion to set date for Paris's deposition and
Katherine's opposition to the above motion:bugeyed

From Paris' deposition 2010:
While MJ was practicing for the TII tour, Responding Party (Paris) would wait outside of MJ’s room until he got home so she could say goodnight to him. Paris recalls having one on one time with MJ, as well as her and her siblings all piling into his room and hanging out together.

Paris loves her daddy very much:wub:


I read email’s between Boyle and Stebbins, and I have to say, Boyle comes across as pompous arrogant and bully! He tells to Stebbins to take a holiday, put her feet up and have a herbal tea to calm her nerves? Then he goes on to say” Based on your strange intensity with regard to deposing these children, I’m wondering if we are going to need a representative of the court present to make sure the questioning doesn’t become abusive and harassing. Please el me know if you think that will be necessary.”

Is he stupid or what, of course they want to hear from kids as after all they are plaintiffs?
I think he got Jacksonised after spending too much time with them, and he is expecting them to just hand out the money.
All in all, after reading the email chain between Boyle and Stebbins, she conducted herself very well and professionally, but I cannot say the same about Boyle.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Katherine is close to 80 already? how many more years does she still have on this earth? why dont she just get herself out of the drama and just live normally and enjoy the serenity of life? ppl are just greedy want $$$ and more $$$ and what's the point of it when you can't enjoy it or already have more than enough of it?

She cannot enjoy her life as her useless and lazy cubs are pushing Katherine to proceed with this mockery trial and she needs money from AEG so she can support those good for nothing cubs rest of their lives. What she gets now from estate is not enough to support the whole clan, and after her passing, Katherine cannot will her share to anyone, thus the trial.

 

[Rhilo]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

^^ Hi Bubs, where did you read that...can you pls share the link?

 

[passy001]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Big Apple I think you have something there--that Prince was giving answers that would help AEG's side. I can't think of a better reason, since we know AEG provided the tapes which will show what happened. But how foolish the family side could be to make such statements when they knew the depositions are recorded & taped? Simple unscrupulous people.

I hope AEG understands the seriousness of their situation now. If they run with this druggie defense now, they are going to lose, because mother & her experts are going to state that Michael was a druggie & AEG knew, so if stupid AEG keeps hammering on that Michael was a druggie & they could not save him & he could not make too much money, the family will say, "oh so you knew that all along & saw his behavior after the doctor treated him & did nothing?" They better resist the great urge to continue trashing Michael, & start showing Michael was this kind soul who was taken advantage of by a greedy unethical doctor, & they knew they would make millions with Michael, thus they had no desire to have him ill-treated by any doc, which is why they told him to wait for one in London. They need to show that Muarry represented himself as an ethical & licensed doc & they are not licensed to supervise doctors who are their clients private staff.

It seems to me that AEG is fighting this case as though the case is against Michael vs AEG, because all their weapons seem to be directed against Michael, rather than showing why they did not hire Muarry.

The drug issue is to show that MJ had a dependency on drugs that got worse as a result of the 2005 that AEG could not have known. though MJ admitted to addiction to painkiller in 1993, he was rehabilitated and got clean. it follows that no one after that period would suspect MJ of being a dependent on drugs onwards. I mean MJ released albums and launched a history tours. So that was proof that MJ was clean. and in case MJ was using drugs AEG could not have even imagined this based on that fact.
I honestly don't believe that AEG would have taken such a risk if they actually knew that MJ was ACTIVELY dependent on drugs after the 2005 trial. the risks far outweigh the benefits.

 

[gerryevans]

No. I don't. As I don't see black or white. I see greys. I don't condemn the Jacksons for this lawsuit. I don't particularly agree with it, but I can see why they are doing it. And whatever people may think about the sum they're asking. At least there is a trial. There might be some more answers to what has happened beyond Murray.

And I don't know what glasses you wear to see what you see, but I see that people view this thing totally black or white. To them there is no middle ground and the Jacksons are devils and only after money.

What other answers do you think you'll get out of this trial as to what happened to MJ?

This trial is now all about the technical issue of who hired Murray and what AEG should have foreseen because of his financial situation and MJ's supposed predilections.

The trial will assess contract law and the characters of Murray, AEG, and Michael.

Since MJ’s death, his family have put their character in the spotlight and one would have to be totally blind not to see one attempt after another to capitalize off him, going so far as to exploit his children to do so.

I know Katherine is angry at AEG and sincerely grieving her son. I’m feeling the same emotions, and I’m just an outsider, a fan. AEG did not regard or respect MJ, the human being, as they should have. But this trial and the insane amount being requested shows motivations are at play that are far removed from grief.

I can see all shades of grey, black and white, but admittedly, the main one I’m seeing motivating this lawsuit is green.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

aeg talk about 93 more then anything especially in the appeal in docs .saying how could we be expected to think murray was doing what he was doing because of mjs issues with painkillers back in 93 theres no evidence putting aside the jacksons.b.s about any real issues from 05 onwards.

The drug issue is to show that MJ had a dependency on drugs that got worse as a result of the 2005 that AEG could not have known. though MJ admitted to addiction to painkiller in 1993, he was rehabilitated and got clean. it follows that no one after that period would suspect MJ of being a dependent on drugs onwards. I mean MJ released albums and launched a history tours. So that was proof that MJ was clean. and in case MJ was using drugs AEG could not have even imagined this based on that fact.
I honestly don't believe that AEG would have taken such a risk if they actually knew that MJ was ACTIVELY dependent on drugs after the 2005 trial. the risks far outweigh the benefits.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Imo kj's angry at aeg cause theey stopped her son doing texas reunion shows.and ino she stopped grieving in sept 09 when she started doing buisness with mann and selling the kids to oprah etc. she moved right along to thinking of the money she needed for her kids.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

^^ Hi Bubs, where did you read that...can you pls share the link?

Thank yous to Ivy

Ivy has those up in Full case history thread,

Documents for above summaries/ updates:

AEG's motion to set date for Paris's deposition

http://www.scribd.com/doc/131734184/...date-for-Paris

Katherine's opposition to the above motion

http://www.scribd.com/doc/131734687/...son-deposition

 

[Bubs]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Imo kj's angry at aeg cause theey stopped her son doing texas reunion shows.and ino she stopped grieving in sept 09 when she started doing buisness with mann and selling the kids to oprah etc. she moved right along to thinking of the money she needed for her kids.

Not to mention her contract with VPM and Mann, see ref:
The contract also says Katherine has the legal right to "forever bind" Michael's kids, Prince, Paris and Blanket. According to sources connected familiar with the MJ Estate, Katherine does not have the power to contractually bind Michael's kids.

Katherine is already raking in $26,000-a-month from the MJ Estate, but she's complaining she wants more. Looks like she found it.
Howard Mann tells TMZ, "This is one of several agreements with Mrs. Jackson. This was a starting point in our relationship."

She hasn't changed a bit since she "forever binded(sp)" Michael when he was young. Now that MJ is gone, she had to start using someone else to make money, who is better than Michael's kids.

I know that she cannot legally bind MJ's kids, which she may have known it or may not, but the fact she signed such a contract speaks volumes and shows how little those kids means to her. She can pimp her own kids all she likes, starting with Randy and Jermaine, but she needs to stop using PPB for benefit of Jackson clan.

 

[passy001]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

aeg talk about 93 more then anything especially in the appeal in docs .saying how could we be expected to think murray was doing what he was doing because of mjs issues with painkillers back in 93 theres no evidence putting aside the jacksons.b.s about any real issues from 05 onwards.

They are correct. How could they have imaged that MJ would die in the hand of murray due to his issues in 93. there is no connection between MJ issues of 93 and Murray in 2009. and that's the whole point.
Murray had no disciplinary records. none or whatsoever. plus MJ issues of 93 are so far remote. like I said, he got clean. he got rehabilitated and thanks to that he was able to release music, tour and perform in many venues including 95 MTV awards. then as a promoter how could you guess that 1) MJ has issues and 2) that Murray his preferred doctor was going to kill MJ in the end. Only GOD could predict something like this.

 

[AliCat]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Leonard Rowe met with AEG on May 15, 2009, along with Joe and Katherine Jackson.

Then shortly after Michael dies, Leonard Rowe and Joe Jackson go on "Larry King Live," to level accusations against AEG Live.

Leonard Rowe knew Michael was an addict in the last day's before he died. Why?

based on Michael's physical appearance; weight; mental capacity.

Leonard Rowe knew Michael for 30 years and he knows when Michael is in good health and when he isn't.

Joe Jackson stated 'we tried to get to him like we should and that it wasn't only drugs, there was a lot of suspicious activity in Michael's final day's.

Michael was being controlled and manipulated.

Michael Jackson was not allowed to make his own decisions, he was not allowed to hire who could work for Michael.

Michael Jackson was being told what to do.

People was controlling Michael Jackson.

Some people who was controlling Michael Jackson financially, the people that was taking care of Michael Jackson, that was paying his bills, those are the people who was controlling Michael Jackson.

The Promoter's not the Corporation of Neverland.

AEG was controlling Michael Jackson's life, Michael was not allowed to make decisions of his own.

Larry King said that that it isn't foul play.

Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe continued with 'people was brought in to run Michael Jackson's life that he had dismissed in the past. AEG brought people in that Michael had dismissed in the past.'

Leonard Rowe claims Michael Jackson personally hired him.

The doctor was put in the house and he was paid a large sum of money.

How can a healthy person need someone to take care of them. I (Leonard Rowe) don't have a doctor living with me.

Leonard Rowe continues - Michael Jackson was addicted, it is no secret, we all know that.

Joe Jackson says he never got a chance to talk to Michael about drug use.

Joe could never get to Michael about his drug use. "I was barred away from him because of Security. "They" cut Joe off.

Although, Joe had no answer as to why Michael didn't want to see him.

The doctor ran away, it took 3 day's to find him - that's foul play, according to Joe Jackson.

Michael fired those people involved with the Will.

What does he contest? The trustee of the Will. Michael had dismissed these people from his life earlier.

Joe Jackson would not admit that Michael said Joe was abusive.

And how 'beatings' came from slave master's.

The suspicious nature of Michael's death, asking Congress to look into Michael's death. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNmWXPUMVQ0

So now instead of an act of Congress, we've got Katherine Jackson suing AEG Live in a Civil Suit!

 

[Petrarose]

Katherine is close to 80 already? how many more years does she still have on this earth? why dont she just get herself out of the drama and just live normally and enjoy the serenity of life? ppl are just greedy want $$$ and more $$$ and what's the point of it when you can't enjoy it or already have more than enough of it?

Because she is not doing this for herself. If she was she would have sat down & enjoyed her luxurious life, the way Michael wanted her to do. It is those cubs that are keeping her fighting for money. Sadly, she would present Michael in any negative light as possible to get money for them.

If she loses this case I am taking a whole day off work to celebrate, after giving thanks to God.

Strangely enough, with the muarry case I had no doubts that he would lose, but with this case there is a biased judge & there is no one for Michael's side here. This is more a case where 2 sides are beating on Michael to see who should keep money or who should take it. If there was a Michael side, you could bring in evidence showing that his organs show no longtime drug abuse & show the healthy condition of the body overall.

Bubs your post: From Paris' deposition 2010:
While MJ was practicing for the TII tour, Responding Party (Paris) would wait outside of MJ’s room until he got home so she could say goodnight to him. Paris recalls having one on one time with MJ, as well as her and her siblings all piling into his room and hanging out together.
Didn't that muarry say the children were not allowed in his room. That comment from Paris shows another Muarry lie in motion.

 

[marebear]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Fans are not as naive as some would like to think. We can see beyond black and white and see that grey. When Michael died I wanted the kids with Katherine like Michael wanted. I thought they would protect those kids and protect Michael. I have tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but actions speak louder than words. In the last 4 years I have seen nothing but crazy behavior and lack of respect for Michael or his wishes. Things I never would have imagined.

Despite that I have to believe that Katherine loves Michael. She is his mom. But she can't put him first and has put this expectation that he has to take care of the whole family. She is going to throw him under the bus and she already has for the rest of the family. It's just sad. AEG were jerks to Michael. But they didn't know what Murray was doing. Nobody knew but Michael and Murray. Who ever heard of giving propofol in your house so you could sleep? Most doctors have said they never heard of doing that. If there was something that said AEG told Murray to do that then I would say to the Jacksons bring them down but there is nothing like that. I blame Murray for what happened to Michael.

 

[shelly_webster]

Because she is not doing this for herself. If she was she would have sat down & enjoyed her luxurious life, the way Michael wanted her to do. It is those cubs that are keeping her fighting for money. Sadly, she would present Michael in any negative light as possible to get money for them.

If she loses this case I am taking a whole day off work to celebrate, after giving thanks to God.

Strangely enough, with the muarry case I had no doubts that he would lose, but with this case there is a biased judge & there is no one for Michael's side here. This is more a case where 2 sides are beating on Michael to see who should keep money or who should take it. If there was a Michael side, you could bring in evidence showing that his organs show no longtime drug abuse & show the healthy condition of the body overall.

Bubs your post: From Paris' deposition 2010:
While MJ was practicing for the TII tour, Responding Party (Paris) would wait outside of MJ’s room until he got home so she could say goodnight to him. Paris recalls having one on one time with MJ, as well as her and her siblings all piling into his room and hanging out together.
Didn't that muarry say the children were not allowed in his room. That comment from Paris shows another Muarry lie in motion.

I am not sure but Murray talked about a room where the kids were not allowed, not the entire bedroom.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

I am not sure but Murray talked about a room where the kids were not allowed, not the entire bedroom.

Shelly did you see the mocumentary? Check that & see if he said bedroom. Michael room was a master's suite with dressing room, bathroom, sleeping area, I think a sitting room area but not sure. The room Muarry used for the doctoring would be off limits, but I don't think Muarry was talking about that.

Marebear your comment: Fans are not as naive as some would like to think. We can see beyond black and white and see that grey. Of course you are right, but sometimes we agree with a person who interjects discord in order to keep the thread running smoothly, or to avoid someone pushing a specific negative agenda.

On another note, are we going to close this thread, since the motion to discuss the case was squashed & we now have new threads?

 

[jamba]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

For me, the granny napping is key to understanding KJ. She had no problem being unavailable to the children whose guardian she is, the children who lost their dad so tragically. She had no problem playing cards and acting like everything was just great and 'it's very stupid for people to think like that," "my children would never do that," etc. That was not a problem for her. What was a problem was when she lost the guardianship (i.e. the $$$), and that's when she got off her butt and went back to be with PPB. Until that point she was a willing pawn. IMO that showed she had no clue that leaving the kids with no ability to contact her was in violation of the guardianship requirements. To me, that said it all. She is not a responsible adult who knows what children need and how to care for them.

 

[AliCat]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

To buy "Neverland" back and the Beatles Catalog from Sony, Katherine had better find a quick cash flow or else her Cub's ain't gonna live a lifestyle they have long enjoyed.

With as much as Katherine is asking for in her Civil Suit against AEG Live, this would allow Katherine to buy all the existing land from the land owners that live in Santa Barbara County. She can then get rid of that pesky tax code involving agriculture and now her Cub's will live in the lap of luxury as "Neverland" is opened up to the public.

Katherine will then buy back Sony's % in the Beatles Catalog and her Cub's will continue to live in the lap of luxury. Did I forget to mention Michael's three children or were they just conveniently forgotten because if it wasn't for Katherine and Joe Jackson there would be no International Superstar by the name of Michael Jackson. For without said parent's, there would have been no Jackson 5.

Michael owes them big time!

 

[passy001]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

To buy "Neverland" back and the Beatles Catalog from Sony, Katherine had better find a quick cash flow or else her Cub's ain't gonna live a lifestyle they have long enjoyed.

With as much as Katherine is asking for in her Civil Suit against AEG Live, this would allow Katherine to buy all the existing land from the land owners that live in Santa Barbara County. She can then get rid of that pesky tax code involving agriculture and now her Cub's will live in the lap of luxury as "Neverland" is opened up to the public.

Katherine will then buy back Sony's % in the Beatles Catalog and her Cub's will continue to live in the lap of luxury. Did I forget to mention Michael's three children or were they just conveniently forgotten because if it wasn't for Katherine and Joe Jackson there would be no International Superstar by the name of Michael Jackson. For without said parent's, there would have been no Jackson 5.

Michael owes them big time!

That will NEVER happen.

 

[Tygger]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Marebear your comment: Fans are not as naive as some would like to think. We can see beyond black and white and see that grey. Of course you are right, but sometimes we agree with a person who interjects discord in order to keep the thread running smoothly, or to avoid someone pushing a specific negative agenda.

"Honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress."
- Mahatma Ghandi

 

[8701girl]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

To buy "Neverland" back and the Beatles Catalog from Sony, Katherine had better find a quick cash flow or else her Cub's ain't gonna live a lifestyle they have long enjoyed.

With as much as Katherine is asking for in her Civil Suit against AEG Live, this would allow Katherine to buy all the existing land from the land owners that live in Santa Barbara County. She can then get rid of that pesky tax code involving agriculture and now her Cub's will live in the lap of luxury as "Neverland" is opened up to the public.

Katherine will then buy back Sony's % in the Beatles Catalog and her Cub's will continue to live in the lap of luxury. Did I forget to mention Michael's three children or were they just conveniently forgotten because if it wasn't for Katherine and Joe Jackson there would be no International Superstar by the name of Michael Jackson. For without said parent's, there would have been no Jackson 5.

Michael owes them big time!

HELLLL NAWWWWWW!!!!!! michael MADE neverland so really he is the original owner of it so truly it belonged to him.

Also michael was the reason why that band made it so big and do u really reckon had jermaine been lead vocal they would've had that much success they had .. i dont think so! Michael was the star of that group its plain & simple imo

 

[soulmum]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

I had been hoping the judge would dismiss the whole thing but sadly we now have to go forward and most likely see Michael's name being dragged through the mud again. All for the sake of the mighty dollar, doesn't matter that his children will suffer more than any of us. Terribly sad.

 

[willbe]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

The kids can easily stop this whole case, only if they understand what is going on. They will really need to read up on their dad cus there is a whole alot about their dad that I believe they don't know. For a fact they know him as a father but about his whole life I don't think think they do.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

"Honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress."
- Mahatma Ghandi

The problem is that that quote ^^ does not apply to the discord we are talking about where some fans are labeled negatively by one person, and notice the word "honest disagreement" there. We are not talking about disagreement ^^above either, but efforts to cause bad feelings & infighting among others.

Willbe wouldn't that be something if the kids state they are pulling out of the deal. That would cause such a fight in LA that grandma might pack up her clothes and walk out.

 

[Tygger]

Re: [General Discussion] AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine's lawsu

Petrarose, I honestly disagree with your post and I felt the Ghandi quote was an appropriate response as to why. Prometheus77 explained their point of view and I agreed with the explanation.