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justnat said:
Actually Ivy this is really very good example. Did you ever research this case?
Just from Wiki: "Liebeck was wearing cotton sweatpants; they absorbed the coffee and held it against her skin, scalding her thighs, buttocks, and groin.[12] Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[13] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting."

Excuse we when I side with the woman on this one.
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Again it's all about the merits. Read wiki for the rest of the information and see how this has become a frivolous claim and how in the future the courts rejected the similar cases. Similarly even in this case the extraordinary damage request was reduced by the judge. From a legal perspective it is an example of a frivolous lawsuit and can be solved with "caution hot" warning. In other words this person could have deserved the medical expenses but not the almost $3 Million dollars just because McDonalds happens to be a big company.
 
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ivy said:
In other words this person could have deserved the medical expenses but not the almost $3 Million dollars just because McDonalds happens to be a big company.
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Totally agree with this part.
 
Related to this case:

Manhattan Dr. David Slavit is facing a court challenge related to a Feb. 2009 examination he did of Michael Jackson; an enterntainment firm being sued by the Jackson family says the doc has ignored a subpoena for records
The firm being sued by the Jackson family, AEG Live, used Slavit's exam to get insurance for Jackson's ill-fated comeback tour

BY BARBARA ROSS / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

A Park Avenue doctor who examined Michael Jackson months before his death is facing a court challenge from an entertainment firm that wants details about the checkup.
Lawyers for AEG Live — the firm that was producing Jackson’s ill-fated comeback tour — have asked a Manhattan Supreme Court judge to order Dr. David Slavit to comply with a subpoena issued in California.
AEG was hit with a wrongful death suit from the Gloved One’s family, who say the promoters should have known he was too sick for the stage.
AEG’s lawyers say Slavit’s February 2009 examination of Jackson is essential to their defense because it enabled the firm to get insurance for the concert series, which was supposed to start in London in July 2009. Jackson died of an overdose in June 2009.


AEG’s lawyers contend they have been trying for a year to get Slavit to sit for a deposition and share medical records from the exam. They say he canceled the first time they set a date for a deposition, court papers say, and that Slavit and his father, Leonard Slavit, a negligence attorney, have since put up a series of obstacles to establishing a new date.
“Despite repeated and tireless efforts to resolve the matter without court intervention, AEG has no choice” but to ask the courts to order Slavit to cooperate, the AEG lawyers argued in court papers.
Neither Slavit nor his father could be reached for comment.
Jackson’s personal doctor, Conrad Murray, who provided the medication on which he overdosed, was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011. He is currently serving a four-year prison sentence.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-related-suit-article-1.1269490#ixzz2LWjqaxBe
 
Re: AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine Jackson lawsuit

I have a question for legal eagle.

As we know J$ is going around doing interviews in which they claim that Michael was going to do 100 shows, see the interview here:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ksons-exclusive-interview-2013-about-MJ-death

Wouldn't that pose a risk to Katherine's case in a way that AEG can claim that brothers were pushing Michael too, and AEG wasn't aware of those extra 50 dates (which I'm sure exists only in brothers head)?
 
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Bubs said:
I have a question for legal eagle.

As we know J$ is going around doing interviews in which they claim that Michael was going to do 100 shows, see the interview here:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ksons-exclusive-interview-2013-about-MJ-death

Wouldn't that pose a risk to Katherine's case in a way that AEG can claim that brothers were pushing Michael too, and AEG wasn't aware of those extra 50 dates (which I'm sure exists only in brothers head)?
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Very good question Bubs. The very same thought crossed my mind last night and I'd really like to know the answer to that question also.

Like somebody mentioned earlier, I would THINK that they Jacksons would have been advised by Mother's attorneys to tick-a-lock. Especially since the Jacksons have always suffered from "foot in mouth" disease.

I wonder if they think that just because they are not sharing that particular information in America that their words will not get back to America. Namely, the AEG attorneys in America.
 
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^^ I know, Jermaine particularly suffers from terrible case of "foot in mouth" case, and he is the one who keeps repeating that Murray was just a hand, there was bigger hand behind Murray, and we just wait and see what comes out in trial. But he doesn't understand that his words might be the reason judge sees no reason to go on trial with AEG, as if AEG only wanted MJ to do 50 concerts, and brothers says MJ was committed to do another 50 with them.
If Michael was going on tour with brothers, wouldn't he still be in need for Murray and propofol, which most likely would have ended the same way as it did. Would Katherine had sued brothers for hiring Murray, not looking after Michael and his medication etc?

I would really like to hear someones opinion for this who know legal things. (Ivy, wake up)
 
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I would think aeg could certainly use that evidence. aeg got depos off the family were it seemed to be about all the pressure the family had put on mj over the years. getting him to do another fifty shows yet in the next complaining that mj didnt want to do fifty shows yet aeg pushed him and brought in murray is a total
contridiction. personally i think the family are saying this to bump up any possible compensation cause they can say look at all the money we the bros would have made aswell. i put nothing past them interms of faking agreements or swearing underoath mj agreed. im sure aeg will use anything
to help their case and will no doubt help. it another example of the families lies inorder to make the family look close

cause they can cay look at all the
money WE
 
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They would still have to show proof though. Mind you Jackie was saying there was originally 100 SOLD out shows half of which were cancelled and they were joining MJ for the second half, so I don't know if he means the so called 50 cancelled shows. Lol

Yeah Jermaine, this bigger hand, he was saying again about another person entering the house that night, soooo by that reasoning CM could be innocent, so is it justice they want or money? What is more important? (It's ok, I already know the answer)
 
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^^ Yeah, Jermaine said it the first interview that someone else entered in the house, and mentioned the security tapes again:smilerolleyes:
There were other people living in the house, not just MJ and Murray (at least PPB, nanny +security). I would think they would have said something in Murray trial if they saw someone coming through the locked door (unless "they" had their own key), or maybe it was ghost of Jermaine who went there and killed Michael. More believable than any of his theories.



elusive moonwalker said:
I would think aeg could certainly use that evidence. aeg got depos off the family were it seemed to be about all the pressure the family had put on mj over the years. getting him to do another fifty shows yet in the next complaining that mj didnt want to do fifty shows yet aeg pushed him and brought in murray is a total
contridiction.
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Yes, Tito was crying abou inappropriate question they asked during his deposition, like who paid his kids schooling etc.
I would pay big money if I get to read siblings depositions. I bet there is some eye-popping answers:)
 
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LastTear said:
They would still have to show proof though. Mind you Jackie was saying there was originally 100 SOLD out shows half of which were cancelled and they were joining MJ for the second half, so I don't know if he means the so called 50 cancelled shows. Lol
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Agreed about the proof.

Especially when we have Jermaine being interviewed talking about doing 50 shows with Michael, and those additional 50 shows were ALREADY PLANNED.

Already planned by whom?

Jermaine is making it sound as if the 50 additonal shows, with Michael and the brothers, was a done deal.

I guess in Jermaine's delusional mind, Michael sold out 50 solo shows, and the brothers with Michael were able to sell out 50 shows also. I mean, he could have just said "we were going to tour with Michael after his O2 committment was complete." But no, Jermaine The Delusional One had to be specific and shout out they were going to do 50 dates with Michael also.

Foot-In-Mouth Disease strikes again!
 
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Oh I would love to see those depo's

When Jermaine was first talking about the bigger hand I just though he meant AEG controlling CM, but here we are again with him saying another entered the house, so he thinks it was premeditated murder??
 
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Jackie claimed what!?? eh? they were gonna do 100 but cancelled 50 of them? u know i thought out of all of them he seemed half decent. but i guesd the lure of $ had made him act la la. Personally i csnt comprehend someone being so immoral and blantently lieing like that. its so sad and shameful.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Jackie claimed what!?? eh? they were gonna do 100 but cancelled 50 of them? u know i thought out of all of them he seemed half decent. but i guesd the lure of $ had made him act la la. Personally i csnt comprehend someone being so immoral and blantently lieing like that. its so sad and shameful.
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And the thing about them is the fact that their lies are never consistent. I mean, pick ONE story and stick to it.

It's like they don't realize that everytime they open their mouths, a different version of their previous story is told.

Jackie talking about 100 shows, cut down to 52. Then you have Jermaine talking about them doing 50 shows with Michael. LOL! Where the heck did that come from. Just making up stuff as they go along, apparently.
 
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Big Apple2 said:
Agreed about the proof.

Especially when we have Jermaine being interviewed talking about doing 50 shows with Michael, and those additional 50 shows were ALREADY PLANNED.

Already planned by whom?

Jermaine is making it sound as if the 50 additonal shows, with Michael and the brothers, was a done deal.

I guess in Jermaine's delusional mind, Michael sold out 50 solo shows, and the brothers with Michael were able to sell out 50 shows also. I mean, he could have just said "we were going to tour with Michael after his O2 committment was complete." But no, Jermaine The Delusional One had to be specific and shout out they were going to do 50 dates with Michael also.

Foot-In-Mouth Disease strikes again!
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I know, I agree.

Maybe I need to re-watch but I am sure Jackie said 100 SOLD OUT SHOWS, and 50 of those were cancelled. So the imaginary extra 50 shows were brought by imaginary punters followed by an imaginary cancellation announcement. Maybe that's the problem, the Jacksons suffer with excessive imagination issues.

EDIT: Yes I double checked. 100 SOLD OUT, Michael didn't want to do them so dropped to 52
 
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I one sense jerm is stuck doing the one thing he didnt want. the only way hes getting attention and getting on stage is by singing mj songs and wearing his clothes . hes become an mj tribute act when all he wanted was to be a star in his own right.

we can laugh at there blatent lies but not only does it anger me it upsets me. because by lieing so blatently it shows the total lack of respect and distain they have for mj. they have no problem making such outrageous comments inorder to make themselves (in their eyes) look good.and they are doing it cause mj isnt here to call them out like in 08. they have so lityle respect for their dead brother that they want to re write history to make themselves look good and imo that is sickening and upseting as it shows they dont give a dam about mj.
 
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Hands up who bought a ticket for those "sold out" shows. i must have been asleep or washing my hair that day!
 
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Elusive, I was thinking about that if they think they add 50 ghost concerts in order to get more money out of AEG.
I don't know whether it is possible as didn't the estate, during Murray trial come up with 100 million restitution, which Michael would have made out of those 50 concerts/ merchandise?
If MJ was planning to do other 50 with brothers, they would have added those to the total, but they didn't. Branca or DiLeo said nothing about other 50 concerts, so I called them ghost concerts.
I think they say that in order to make them look like they are top of the game, and were supposed to be good enough for Michael.
 
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Bubs said:
Elusive, I was thinking about that if they think they add 50 ghost concerts in order to get more money out of AEG.
I don't know whether it is possible as didn't the estate, during Murray trial come up with 100 million restitution, which Michael would have made out of those 50 concerts/ merchandise?
If MJ was planning to do other 50 with brothers, they would have added those to the total, but they didn't. Branca or DiLeo said nothing about other 50 concerts, so I called them ghost concerts.
I think they say that in order to make them look like they are top of the game, and were supposed to be good enough for Michael.
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Yeah I see where you are going. But for the purpose of this trial wouldn't they still have to show some proof, it couldn't all be they all said he said, that wouldn't be enough. So I don't know if it is more like a popularity thing, trying to convince Michael's fans to come to their concerts because Michael would have been there on stage with them if he could.
 
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Yeah come and see the show mj was gonna do
 
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Bubs said:
I have a question for legal eagle.

As we know J$ is going around doing interviews in which they claim that Michael was going to do 100 shows, see the interview here:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ksons-exclusive-interview-2013-about-MJ-death

Wouldn't that pose a risk to Katherine's case in a way that AEG can claim that brothers were pushing Michael too, and AEG wasn't aware of those extra 50 dates (which I'm sure exists only in brothers head)?
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Not a legal eagle, but am someone who watched the jacksons being interviewed a couple of days ago on loose women chat show on itv player. It def looks like the brothers have been told to zip it by their lawyers back home. One of the women asked if mj had been under pressure before he died and questions about his death and honestly they all looked like deer caught in headlights. Jerms spoke up and completely ignored the question and began talking about what a loving family they were and what a great childhood they all had, and joe was just a big old cuddly teddy bear, etc you know the drill. Nothing about murray being a finger of a hand, people wandering round carolwood, security tapes gone missing, 100s of shows etc etc. Obviously the bros thought they could go 'off piste' in norway, aeg execs don't watch norwegian tv, but in the uk they have to be on their best behaviour.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
Not a legal eagle, but am someone who watched the jacksons being interviewed a couple of days ago on loose women chat show on itv player. It def looks like the brothers have been told to zip it by their lawyers back home. One of the women asked if mj had been under pressure before he died and questions about his death and honestly they all looked like deer caught in headlights. Jerms spoke up and completely ignored the question and began talking about what a loving family they were and what a great childhood they all had, and joe was just a big old cuddly teddy bear, etc you know the drill. Nothing about murray being a finger of a hand, people wandering round carolwood, security tapes gone missing, 100s of shows etc etc. Obviously the bros thought they could go 'off piste' in norway, aeg execs don't watch norwegian tv, but in the uk they have to be on their best behaviour.
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I don't think the Jackson brother knew how to handle four strong menopausal women, they were scared and they did have Denise Welsh sat next to them gushing into her Tena's. :hysterical:
 
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^ I know they are some scary women! Denise is apparently a major mj fan so seemed a little gobsmacked to be sitting next to them. Lol at even jerms looking a little wary of all the female attention.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
aeg execs don't watch norwegian tv
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Knowing the Jackson family's habit of speaking out of turn and/or making things up, I wonder if AEG is watching them regardless to where they may be interviewed.

It would make sense that AEG has a slew of paralegals, who's sole purpose is to collect interview footage starring various members of the Jackson family. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
 
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LastTear said:
Yeah I see where you are going. But for the purpose of this trial wouldn't they still have to show some proof, it couldn't all be they all said he said, that wouldn't be enough. So I don't know if it is more like a popularity thing, trying to convince Michael's fans to come to their concerts because Michael would have been there on stage with them if he could.
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I know judge Pastor was very firm with the estate coming up with their number 100 mil that they can ask from Murray for restitution, which they did. I think civil trial is a bit different? If thats what they are after, I hope they must prove it too.

I was thinking one funny thing. It would be too funny, if Jermaine's big mouth gets judge to rule that this case is not going to trial.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
^ I know they are some scary women! Denise is apparently a major mj fan so seemed a little gobsmacked to be sitting next to them. Lol at even jerms looking a little wary of all the female attention.
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She might be a fan but on the whole they didn't seem very knowledgeable on MJ history, but then again, that keeps changing these days. smh
 
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LastTear said:
She might be a fan but on the whole they didn't seem very knowledgeable on MJ history, but then again, that keeps changing these days. smh
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I cannot keep up with it anymore:D
 
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Bubs said:
I know judge Pastor was very firm with the estate coming up with their number 100 mil that they can ask from Murray for restitution, which they did. I think civil trial is a bit different? If thats what they are after, I hope they must prove it too.

I was thinking one funny thing. It would be too funny, if Jermaine's big mouth gets judge to rule that this case is not going to trial.
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Well they first have to prove that AEG were in some way responsible for what happened, then I guess it goes to damages, which really is an unknown amount, but remember it has nothing to do with the J brothers loss of income over their imaginary tour they were going to do. I think I am right in saying that.
 
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LastTear said:
Well they first have to prove that AEG were in some way responsible for what happened, then I guess it goes to damages, which really is an unknown amount, but remember it has nothing to do with the J brothers loss of income over their imaginary tour they were going to do. I think I am right in saying that.
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I think you are right, they are not part of this lawsuit, so their loss of imaginary income is their personal loss:)
I don't think Katherine can say MJ was going to do tour with brothers, they need to be compensated.
AEG can always give them imaginary $$$$$$
 
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LastTear said:
Well they first have to prove that AEG were in some way responsible for what happened, then I guess it goes to damages, which really is an unknown amount, but remember it has nothing to do with the J brothers loss of income over their imaginary tour they were going to do. I think I am right in saying that.
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As far as the brothers go, I totally agree with you.

I'm no legal eagle, but I would think that if the brothers had such a claim against AEG, they would have to file a seperate lawsuit against AEG. I don't think they can just piggy-back on Mother's claim, since she and the children are beneficiaries and the brothers are not.

On a side note: I wonder who put together that "Original Jackson 5" deal Jermaine speaks of. Was it AEG or was it All Good Entertainment or was it Live Nation. Maybe Jermaine will release that information during his next interview. (Sarcasm complete.)
 
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