LastTear;3840637 said:
And yes, I feel strongly that Michael would not accept someone slapping him in bad way.
Or, another option : Michael was aware of the slap, but understood it was not meant to harm him. If he was that drunk/out of it, it would have shown at the press conference I think.
I never had the feeling he was drunk or under the influence of something that day, I just thought he was nervous, and I didn't think much of it at the time. It seemed normal to me that he was nervous, it was a big day for him.
jamba;3840734 said:
Re the rehearsals--which I think is important to know who was behind the insistence that MJ rehearse and why--was it RP? PG said he didn't even expect it and he wasn't concerned. Was it KO. Re KO's position--as I understaood it from the CM trial and from KO's testimony--he and MJ were Co-Directors of TII. They spent a lot of time together planning the whole concept of the tour. They also agreed that there would be a 'making of' movie of TII as part of the revenue-producing stream, and that's why they had the cameras there, and also were able to produce TII after MJ died. So--was there an agreement (verbal) re the 'making of' that MJ would show up for rehearsals, be back-stage, etc, so as to see him involved in the production, and if he stopped attending rehearsals, that project couldn't happen?? Thus, maybe KO was one of the people, in addition to RP, who was insisting that MJ rehearse.
Rehearsals were KO's job, as per Alif Sankey's testimony, and I think PG said that too, it also shows in the emails.
KO was responsible for the schedule, and that schedule would have to suit Michael as well.
KO / RP said at CM trial that during the june 20th meeting Michael and KO talked about a schedule or an organisation that would suit them both. It sounded like there was a misunderstanding between them about that.
So far it sounds like it was KO who raised concerns about Michael not showing up for rehearsals. I'm not sure he was "insisting", so far I would say he was concerned.
PG said he didn'think Michael not showing up was a problem, Phillips said it was a problem for him.
It seems there was a meeting mid june (intervention, tough love) and KO & RP were there, not PG, according to Karen.
From Karen's transcripts :
Karen mentions that once Michael was late for rehearsal and Ortega and Phillips went to Michael’s house to talk to him. After that meeting Karen says she was instructed to not to listen to Michael and listen and take directions from Phillips. Karen says she was told to get Michael on stage and put the ear piece in his ear even though he did not want that. Karen testifies she felt torn about whom to listen to.
Karen says Michael was again late for a rehearsal around June 16-18 and Ortega and Phillips again went to talk to Michael. Karen says she thinks Michael and Murray was at this meeting. Karen says she talked to Ortega after this meeting but the some of questioning ends due to hearsay. She says she was told not to listen to what Michael was telling her and show Michael tough love.
Karen says on June 18 Michael came to rehearsal late and he looked stoic. Karen says Michael and she did not talk much and Michael looked frightened.
Karen testifies that on June 23rd and June 24th Michael was doing better and she felt a little bit relief. She says Michael was still cold and thin and repeating stuff on june 23rd. Karen says she learned Randy Phillips put a person in Michael’s dressing room. She says she doesn’t know why Phillips put that person there and she testifies that Michael was bothered and unhappy by it
Karen says at one point she was told to communicate her concerns directly to Frank Dileo. Karen says it was her understanding that Dileo was working for AEG. Karen says Dileo was the person she was supposed to go and she believed Dileo was going to report these concerns to Phillips
Reading her transcripts again, she's saying that at first she would take instructions from Phillips, Dileo, Ortega and Michael. Then , around mid june, she was told not to listen to Michael, only to Phillips and Dileo. So, maybe not to Ortega either (she doesn't specifically say that).
Then, later we have this (june 23rd)
Email on 6/23/09 from Timm Wooley to Bob Taylor (insurance broker): Kenny Ortega has responsibility only for the show content and structure Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray are responsible for MJ rehearsal and attendance schedule. Looks like there might have been an issue in KO either not being demanding enough.
So there was an evolution in Kenny's role.
Karen also says that Michael showing up late or not showing up at rehearsals started when he was supposed to be on stage, she thought it was psychological at first.
She did say that Phillips told her Michael was drunk at TII press conference.
From the news thread :
Faye said she raised her concerns once in June with AEG CEO Randy Phillips. He told her, "Yeah, this is bad. It's not so good. I had to scrape Michael off the floor in London at the announcement because he was so drunk," she said.(CNN)
I can't find the part of her testimony where she said Michael was afraid of DiLeo ? Did we dream it ? I thought she said he was afraid of Dileo and Phillips.
Petrarose;3840793 said:
About the bruises, how could people see bruises on Michael's arm when Michael wore long sleeves that day? I feel that after people hear bits and pieces form Randy about Michael being drunk, they let their imagination run wild.
It was his
hand, not his arms. His left hand.
And not their imagination either, unless the photos were photoshopped. But that doesn't tell us how Michael had this bruises. It could have been a few days before, not specifically that day.
There are other clearer pictures of the bruises, but they are on hoax websites, so i'd rather quote this one, from CNN :
Petrarose;3840793 said:
I am thinking that AEG owner hired Randy partly due to his personality & feeling he is the type of nasty guy who can pull something together if a problem arises. I am trying to look at this from a multi-million dollar perspective.
I agree with this. But being a bully is not the recipe for a great boss IMO. Especially if artists and vendors don't like him.