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NEW SONG - Akon feat. Michael Jackson "Hold my hand" [updates in post #1]
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smooth_criminal05
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I think one of the reasons that could be allowing for this delay of releasing the single is due to the lawsuit from Prince whoever in Bahrain. I remember reading that Michael actually signed a legal document that states he must record his next 2 albums under 2 Seas Records! If that is true then we won't be seeing anything new from Michael Jackson until this lawsuit is cleared up. I bet Michael wants to release the single with Sony but first he must make sure he can legally lend his voice to Akon's track without a possible breach of a contract. This could also be the reason behind the delay of Michael's own album. Im thinking he wants Sony to release his new album but that is not possible because of the stupid Bahrain contract he signed back in 2006. Until that lawsuit is settled then I think we wont be hearing any new singles or a new album from MJ. Just my opinion.
Big Apple2
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Sounds reasonable, but "maybe" just for MJ's own album.
I mean, I'm thinking that Akon's people would not have gone ahead and recorded anything with MJ unless they were sure that everything was in order for this Akon/MJ project. Although anything is possible, I can't see them "funding" a duet unless they knew in advance that they would be able to use that duet on Akon's upcoming release.
Now MJ's own project may be another story. Also keeping in mind, IF anything happens regarding the Prince's lawsuit, we may never hear about it, especially if it works out in MJ's favor. I recall, reading an article wherein the Prince said that the lawsuit was "business" and that he still considered MJ a very dear friend. With that type of attitude, something could have been worked out already. Who knows.
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This isn't mjs song though, so why would it affect the release of he single
elusive moonwalker
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cause mj sings on it. akons label would have to get permission from mjs label to use him.ie 2 seas if thats still the case.2 seas says no then no single release with mjs vocals on it.or akons label goes ahead and 2 seas sue them aswell as mj cause they claim mj is under contract with them. as norm a good few feck ups to put dampners on things
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smooth_criminal05
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Yeah see thats what I was thinking....Remember how the Prince haulted production of the charity single because Michael wasn't cooperating. That means at that time Michael had no control over whether the single would be released or not. I imagine nothing has legally changed since this time and Michael is still obligated to release material with 2 Seas. Who's to say that Akon's label didnt already ask 2 Seas permission and they said "We will allow this only if Michael agrees to release this album with us"...Michael could have said no he wont...hence the "legal issues" Akon talked about. That makes the most sense as to why this single is being delayed. If nothing can be worked out then Akon obviously wont wait forever and he will have to release his new album without Hold My Hand. I just would feel better if we had confirmation that 2 Seas plays no role in Michael's future musical releases however I have the feeling they still do.
elusive moonwalker
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is akons single actually offically delayed though?
Big Apple2
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I don't know, that sounds like a giant leap to me.
I can't see MJ going for something like that, i.e. we will allow you to sing with Akon, IF you release your album with us. I mean, that hardly seems like a balanced offer.
And what about his work on the Thriller 25 project, would 2Seas have to give permission for that project as well?
elusive moonwalker
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it was a re release so no cause its old material.its not as if mj recorded a new song for the album
not saying that iagree but mj would have no choice. if he is under contractwith 2 seas he cant release anything unless its with them unless they come to some sort of agreement.
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Big Apple2
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Of course he has a choice, i.e. NO. LOL!
I can't see him going for that type of deal, just so he can make a "guest" appearance on somebody's record.
If he was executive producer on the Thriller 25 project, 2Seas would have no claim on that?
elusive moonwalker
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not sure what u mean. as we know it at this stage mj is contracted to 2seas. he cant sing on someone elses record unless 2 seas give him permission. he cant release any material unless its on 2 seas. he can say no to releasing anything on 2seas like he already has.thats why hes been sued but until the laswuit is sorted if it already hasnt then there will be no new music from mj unless he either gives 2 seas an album or they give him permission to be on akons track. but mj could just go on akons track and have it released and ignore 2 seas cause in his eyes hes not contracted to them anyway. but this could cause more lawsuits
re ex producer i guess it comes under mj singing as an artist interms of the 2 seas contract its his voice more than anything else
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Big Apple2
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Good information elusive, thanks!
Although, when I read the above sentence, I had to laugh "out loud," because you pegged it correctly. I can truly see MJ (maybe) ignoring 2Seas and going on his merry way with the Akon single. That was a good one!
elusive moonwalker
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knowing mj so can I unfortunatley lol also if akons label know about the isssue with 2seas or 2 seas have contacted them it could put them off releasing it. akons label wont want to get sued after all if threats are made. i guess time will tell
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elusive moonwalker
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i dont see how it wouldnt effect mj. presuming the lawsuit is still ongoing its all about mj being contracted to 2 seas. u cant be releasing albums/songs on other label when u are contracted to another. you have to get permission from the label you are contracted to. so until that issue is sorted a label wont sign him cause they cant release anything.or if they do they are open to being sued by 2seas
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i think you're presuming too much about the case, especially if the lawsuit is at all to do with a long-term artist contract. they could very well be in dispute about one song or project. for all we know, there is no longer a dispute.
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i think your all really guessing widly now, remember this!!
HIp hop website (sorry carnt remember name) said Michael was on Akons new song, few days later its everywhere, they also said video coming end of month. Song is supposed to be getting released end of month so lets wait and see!!
Think you will find all legal issues are now sorted and its full steam ahead! Hence all talk of projects, plus!! Michael would not be cutting the new songs in final stages if it where not legally possible.
Terry
I dont know, :scratch:just when it seems to be getting good everyone seems to get a downer on! lol
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HIp hop website (sorry carnt remember name) said Michael was on Akons new song, few days later its everywhere, they also said video coming end of month. Song is supposed to be getting released end of month so lets wait and see!!
Think you will find all legal issues are now sorted and its full steam ahead! Hence all talk of projects, plus!! Michael would not be cutting the new songs in final stages if it where not legally possible.
Terry
I dont know, :scratch:just when it seems to be getting good everyone seems to get a downer on! lol
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i think the lawsuit was about one or 2 albums. as was reported. yeah of course the case could have been resloved but until we get some evidence either way its something that is gonna be discussed.even more so when im sat here bored with nothing much else to do lol
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^ i didn't know of reported album contracts - was it official?
- but **** it, bring on the hype.
it's funny how that's said in every situation in life. ever thought that it's you who's noticing inevitable (and minor) negativities then extrapolating to view as though "everyone seems to get a downer on"? if anything, this thread's too positiveI dont know, :scratch:just when it seems to be getting good everyone seems to get a downer on! lol
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Big Apple2
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I dont know, :scratch:just when it seems to be getting good everyone seems to get a downer on! lol
Nah, it's all good. Nobody's being a downer, Elusive and I were just kicking around some "basic" questions and answers.
"Hold My Hand," still has me reaching for the moon! All of these days later, I'm still in love with that song.
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OR Michael shops the album around and whoever wants it has to buy out his contract with 2seas? I can't remember how much 2seas is suing for but that amount will probably be the starting price...unless it can be "settled" down to a lower price. That's IF any of this is the case. Michael may already have a deal ready to go and just hasn't announced it. Who knows what the status is on the 2seas situation is at this point. It's possibly resolved or is getting resolved but folks who only love negative news have chosen not to mention it. We know how "they" are. :ermm:
elusive moonwalker
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yeah thats very possible aswell. tbh i dont think we will get to hear news about the lawsuit unless it comes to court as it was filed in the UK and its not all public record.
StarTrader
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Would he have had to have had permission from 2SEAS for singing on WBSS 08 and FAT?
mello1
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We already knew that MJ was on that record -- Akon had said that some time ago before that gossip report on AllHipHop.com. We had even heard a leak of the very same song with just Akon's vocals on it. Also MJ can record up to the waazoo.i think your all really guessing widly now, remember this!!
HIp hop website (sorry carnt remember name) said Michael was on Akons new song, few days later its everywhere, they also said video coming end of month. Song is supposed to be getting released end of month so lets wait and see!!
Think you will find all legal issues are now sorted and its full steam ahead! Hence all talk of projects, plus!! Michael would not be cutting the new songs in final stages if it where not legally possible.
Terry
I dont know, :scratch:just when it seems to be getting good everyone seems to get a downer on! lol
Getting the recordings cleared for release is another matter. It's not really a downer to discuss it. Hopefully all legal channels have been cleared, but if nothing happens by the end of this month, it is something to consider.
AllForMJ
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Maybe we all should be thankful that L. Londell McMillan, Dew and LeBoeuf LLP and Peter Lopez, Kleinberg Lopez Lange Cuddy Edel and Klein LLP are people that exist in Michael's life.
They seem to be very good at what they do. That have helped him with a lot and we haven't heard anything that says they have stopped. Let's let them work this out. They are pros.
Come on you guys. We've come to far to start loosing faith now. Things have been going very, very well. Why start looking to things to be scared of, huh?
Michael said, "Come on out. I'm coming and I'm coming." He didn't say that for nothing.
It's going to be okay. Everything has turned out okay so far, right?
They seem to be very good at what they do. That have helped him with a lot and we haven't heard anything that says they have stopped. Let's let them work this out. They are pros.
Come on you guys. We've come to far to start loosing faith now. Things have been going very, very well. Why start looking to things to be scared of, huh?
Michael said, "Come on out. I'm coming and I'm coming." He didn't say that for nothing.
It's going to be okay. Everything has turned out okay so far, right?
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AllTheLovelyFlowers
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I would bet that the 2 Seas ordeal has already been settled.
I think that Michael, Sony and Akon are now planning on how they are gonna release this song now that it has been leaked. Akon's album was already set for a late July/early August release anyway, so I think they may push that up a little.
I think that Michael, Sony and Akon are now planning on how they are gonna release this song now that it has been leaked. Akon's album was already set for a late July/early August release anyway, so I think they may push that up a little.
elusive moonwalker
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no ones losing faith. its an intresting thing to discuss because until we know for defo that its been sorted the case could have ramifactions on things. akons lable said they didnt even know if they were going to release the song. so even if it isnt released its not a defo sign of there being a problem although it would look strange
mello1
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Thriller 08 is catagorized as a re-issue. I don't think 2 seas could touch that...
AllForMJ
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Yeah and Akon would not have been so excited about this song coming out if there were major, out of control problems going on behind the scenes.
Akon has been going around amping people up. Something is coming down the pipe.
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Akon has been going around amping people up. Something is coming down the pipe.
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mello1
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No one's loosing faith here. I don't get all of the reactions to discussing this point...