MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

[AngieJ]

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Finally, I have realized that a lot of people who expressed love, support and respect to the Jackson family had no clue what some of those people had done in the past, or what they were doing now.

I notice this too.

 

[Petrarose]

trial might be delayed

Jackson doctor defense files appeal, seeks delay

By LINDA DEUTSCH - AP Special Correspondent | AP – 27 mins ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Lawyers for Michael Jackson's doctor have filed an emergency appeal seeking to overturn a judge's refusal to sequester jurors in his upcoming trial.

Attorneys asked to delay the start of jury selection on Sept. 8 until the issue of sequestration is decided by the appellate court.

In a 28-page petition filed late Friday, lawyers said jurors will be poisoned by publicity unless they are locked up in a hotel during Dr. Conrad Murray's trial. They acknowledged that their request is extraordinary, but so was Jackson, whose legacy will feed news coverage.

In the alternative, they asked that the judge rescind his decision to have the trial televised.

Murray is accused of giving Jackson an overdose of the anesthetic propofol

Oh No!!!! This is the 2nd post today that almost gave me a heart attach. Now who is going to think about a tribute now!!! Is the family saying they have to focus on these new events now and have to put the tribute on hold???
Doen't Murray understand he will never win that case. This is their latest stunt now and it is just going to bring a lot of bad feeling from the jurors on to Murray.

 

[Ben]

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@Love is magical, I dont think anyone here doubt KJ loved Michael, and that she was devastated by his passing. And of course we know we dont see everything that happens behind doors. Thats' why most of the criticisms concern public actions.
I have no doubt she loves those 3 children. But I still believes she's too old to raise them. I dont think she has the energy or knowledge of today's teenage life to do it, which is only natural. I dont see my parents raising their grandkids either. Add to this the special status of those children, their dad being who he is. She didnt see any problem with Michael performing in clubs at a very young age, and he witnessed things he should not have. She didnt protect him, and she should have. Those are not the 60's anymore, the dangers of early celebrity, not deserved by the way, are greater. She doesnt seem to be aware of that.

You can be a lovely person, and still make dangerous decisions, that will have a terrible impact on others. Again, I think she has values that applied to Michael, and that she's applying now to his kids. She sees family before the individual. Michael's talent and success were perceived in a "communist" kind of way. Now the money his kids have is seen the same way. I dont think she's greedy. I think she wants to help her other kids, and she will sacrifice her grandkids' assets on the way, without even realizing it.

I believe loving someone doesnt mean being blind to what they do wrong, and letting them get away with everything. The very fact that a lot of people are disappointed in her actions show they thought better of her...

 

[Pimboli]

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AND pay taxes on it if she spends it! It sounds like a way of laundering money for HER to avoid the Korean lawsuit.

may i ask what korean lawsuit you're referring to?

 

[LastTear]

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may i ask what korean lawsuit you're referring to?

It is from a deal the some of the Jackson made with the Moonies to get Michael to do a series of concerts in Korea. This should explain it

Michael Jackson's Estate - Will Katherine Jackson Lose Her Inheritance?By Julie Garber, About.com Guide July 6, 2010#spacer{clear:left}#abc #sidebar{margin-top:1.5em}if(zs>0){zSB(3,3)}else{gEI("spacer").style.display='none';gEI("sidebar").style.display='none'}

Maybe it's really just a coincidence, and maybe it's not, but right on the heels of the one year anniversary of their son's death, Michael Jackson's parents have become embroiled in two different legal battles. Today I'll discuss the legal troubles of Michael's mother, Katherine Jackson, and tomorrow I'll discuss those of his father, Joe Jackson.
Probably the more disturbing of the two legal battles is the $13 million+ claim filed by the South Korean newspaper, Segye Times, against Michael Jackson's estate, in relation to a judgment that the newspaper obtained against the Jacksons in 1994. According to celebrity gossip writer Roger Friedman, the battle between Segye Times, which Friedman claims is a front for Reverend Moon's Unification Church (better known as the Moonies), and the Jacksons has been brewing since 1990 for the following reasons:

In 1990 Katherine Jackson, Joe Jackson and Michael's brother, Jermaine Jackson, guaranteed that Michael Jackson would participate in a South Korean tour along with his brothers that would be financially backed by Segye Times.

1. Gifts of cash, Rolex watches and luxury vehicles were bestowed upon Katherine Jackson, Joe Jackson and Jermaine Jackson by Segye Times in exchange for their promise that Michael would participate in the South Korean tour.
2. When the tour didn't happen, Segye Times sued. In 1992 Michael Jackson settled with the newspaper for an undisclosed amount, but in 1994 it obtained a $4 million default judgment against Katherine Jackson, Joe Jackson and Jermaine Jackson because they failed to defend themselves in the lawsuit.
3. In 1996 Segye Times filed a lawsuit against Michael Jackson in order to take over possession and control of a house he owned in Encino, California. This is where Michael's parents lived and the newspaper claimed that ownership of the house had been transferred into Michael's name in order to defraud the creditors of Katherine and Joe Jackson and prevent collection of debts they owed.
4. In 1999 Katherine and Joe Jackson filed for bankruptcy and listed the Segye Times' judgment as one of their outstanding debts.

So apparently since then Segye Times has been waiting patiently to collect on its $4 million judgment which, with interest accruing over all of these years, has ballooned to over $13 million. By filing a claim against Michael Jackson's estate, the newspaper will attempt to collect on its debt by seeking payment from Katherine Jackson's share of the estate (note that Michael cut out his father as a beneficiary of his estate, otherwise the newspaper would be going after Joe Jackson's share too). But it will face an uphill battle trying to get anything out of the lifetime trust that Michael Jackson established for his mother under the terms of the Michael Jackson Family Trust. Instead, the newspaper may be able to force a settlement for pennies on the dollar, otherwise it may just have to wait for Katherine Jackson to die and then go after her estate.

 

[KingMikeJ]

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Daily Star Sunday reporting that Peter Andre has been invited but is deciding whether or not to perform due to the controversy.

 

[Ben]

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No idea who this guy is...

 

[LastTear]

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@Ben I don't think anyone outside of the UK would know who he is. He is very popular in the UK, more these days as a personality than for his music, (he is such a nice guy that I feel guilty saying that)! But he can sing and dance well and is a big fan of Michael's.


*edit to add* I think he did sell out at the O2 recently.

 

[Ben]

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So much for the international galaxy of stars...

 

[LastTear]

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So much for the international galaxy of stars...

More like a comets tail really, a pile of dust with a spotlight (the sun) on it. :hysterical: It's just a joke folks!!!

 

[StephluvsMJ]

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I met Peter Andre when I was around 4. Really nice guy. He can dance and sing, but he's got that ex-boyband member type of vibe.

 

[8701girl]

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Daily Star Sunday reporting that Peter Andre has been invited but is deciding whether or not to perform due to the controversy.

No idea who this guy is...

Im surprised he been asked to be involved. Ben peter andre is oringinally from here in australia but he moved to england has been there for many years now.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Peters a big well known mj fan has bern all his life was at the wma in 06. Not surprising in that sense.

 

[gerryevans]

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^^But, how about the values that make Katherine the mother Michael loved so much? Katherine's strengh, grace and her unwavering support of Michael during his darkest hours? Like everyone in the world, Katherine is not perfect. She has values that people admire. She also has values that people dislike and disagree. Let me say I'm very disappointed at her recent business decisions. When I saw the children on Good Morning America, I started to wonder what Katherine's thinking. But, I cannot agree with the people who call her greedy and crazy. We cannot magnify the bad attributes and ignore the goods. It's not fair to Katherine if we just remember that one inappropriate comment she had on Michael's appearance and forget about the rest of the interview. I watched the Oprah interview. I don't think the comment on Michael's plastic surgeries is necessary (actually, my own very loving mother made a very hurtful comment about my appearance once. but, it didn't take away a single bit of her love. it really didn't.) The rest of the interview, she spoke of Michael lovingly.

We think we get the complete picture, but we don't. Taj has a point when he said we only see 1/100 of the stuff going on. We simply don't know what happened behind the scene.

Valid points, but it is very difficult NOT to get an impression of greed when you learn someone has received support valued at $9,000,000 in two years, especially when they did NOT even earn it themselves, but are benefitting from the work of someone else who bust their ass off on a stage, has died, but it's still not enough for their needs.

 

[StellaJackson]

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There is a quarter page ad in the Sunday Mirror. No use of Michael's name and no picture of Michael. What a joke.

 

[prismsagainst5live]

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I would go out on a limb and say that generally people who read the Sunday Mirror don't have upwards of 55 quid to spend on this crap.

 

[Petrarose]

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So the ads keep on coming and more names are being added as we said before. I do not even know the latest artist named above. This concert might center on European artist in the end.

 

[Rhilo]

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There is a quarter page ad in the Sunday Mirror. No use of Michael's name and no picture of Michael. What a joke.

Indeed.

What it is - A tribute for the Jackson's bank accounts

What it is not - A tribute for Michael Jackson

 

[Victory22]

I’ve personally lost all respect for Katherine Jackson and I believe she has revealed her true colors since the passing of Michael Jackson. Behind the sweet, soft spoken, graceful, vulnerable little old lady is an iron fist and a heart of stone. She is controlling, manipulative and greedy. She has passive aggressively criticized the parenting skills of the son who adore her all of his life. She has criticized his appearance publically and called him a drug addict. She has allied herself with people who were his enemies. All of this was done to discredit him so she can try and find ways to support her other kids using MJ's name and fans. It’s gone on long enough and it needs to stop NOW! She needs to get the message that the game playing and war against her sons Estate needs to stop and Michael’s children need to be protected. Katherine has proven that she is no better then Joe. No wonder she put up with him all these years. They are on the same team!

 

[xrisx]

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So the ads keep on coming and more names are being added as we said before. I do not even know the latest artist named above. This concert might center on European artist in the end.

Actually to me it seems more and more like a UK tribute concert.
Advertising has only been in the Uk and at least half of the artists are only known (or only known/supported widely) in the UK.
For instance I know Peter Andre from that one song he had in like '96 or '97. Other than that, I'm sure he is a nice guy but the rest of Europe hasn't heard from him since.

Looking at it from that angle makes it funny with them saying this is the one and only tribute. I guess his millions of fans around the rest of the world don't really have to be a part of this "one and only" tribute.....or I guess we shouldn't care who is performing just as long somebody is on that stage...

 

[elusive moonwalker]

i would go out on a limb and say that generally people who read the sunday mirror don't have upwards of 55 quid to spend on this crap.

lol ...

 

[Annita]

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So any indication how many tickets are sold?

 

[dam2040]

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How do I find out who's performing?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Put forever michael tribute in google

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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Given the stature Michael Jackson was and is as an artist, this so-called tribute is just a slap in the face, he deserves a whole lot better and its just sad to see that his own family does'nt seem to think so.

 

[gerryevans]

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Given the stature Michael Jackson was and is as an artist, this so-called tribute is just a slap in the face, he deserves a whole lot better and its just sad to see that his own family does'nt seem to think so.

I'm not getting Global's attitude that the tribute is like a now or never thing, like if it's not done now, it can never be done.

Initially I thought it was because Cirque is going to be such a spectacular show that a tribute later featuring so called stars would pale in comparison and just would not draw much interest. But now I don't know what their thinking is. What they've got lined up certainly won't be this historical extravaganza they hyped by any stretch, whether there was a Cirque on the horizon or not. Plus, they keep claiming it's going to be the UK's biggest event. It's like the Millenium wasn't always there with its 75,000 seats and hasn't had other events that filled it.

Global's tribute just continues to be a mindboggling mess to me.

 

[PurpleParrot]

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I'm not getting Global's attitude that the tribute is like a now or never thing, like if it's not done now, it can never be done.

Initially I thought it was because Cirque is going to be such a spectacular show that a tribute later featuring so called stars would pale in comparison and just would not draw much interest. But now I don't know what their thinking is. What they've got lined up certainly won't be this historical extravaganza they hyped by any stretch, whether there was a Cirque on the horizon or not. Plus, they keep claiming it's going to be the UK's biggest event. It's like the Millenium wasn't always there with its 75,000 seats and hasn't had other events that filled it.

Global's tribute just continues to be a mindboggling mess to me.

I know! Anyway, as soonas october 2nd arrives, everybody's gonna talk about the Cirque du Soleil (plus the trial if it's still at the same date of course). Cirque du Soleil will be all over the place in the fan community, how it is, the songs, the giving tree etc... Nobody's gonna think about that thing in Cardiff.

 

[LastTear]

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Do we know the outcome of the second conference call with MJJC?

 

[Aquarius]

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This is something I can't believe. Ja-Tail states they promoted Michael's tour. It doesn't tell how many tours or which one, but if this is not true, they should be sued by the estate. Does anyone knows about this?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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I presume its len rowes claim of working with the jacksons back in the 70s on tour?.theres no way they worked on dangerous etc tours