MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I am again speaking with Andy tomorrow regarding answers to my questions,

I wont back down, so they either do it with or with out, its a simple as that,

If nothing is done then that's it for us, there will be no reporting of it here, we will move our attention to a more important thing in that justice is served to Murray for drip feeding Michael propofol when he should not have.

Thanks Gaz, I was wondering what your next step would be. Good that there is a plan. We know that in a couple of weeks we stop looking at this foolishness and move on to more serious matters.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

If nothing is done then that's it for us, there will be no reporting of it here, we will move our attention to a more important thing in that justice is served to Murray for drip feeding Michael propofol when he should not have.

Thank you, Gaz :yes:
 
:) Ok, here's the first part written of my conference call with Andy Picheta, I had 4 different subjects I wanted to discuss, and the first was Michael's children. Please don't alter, change or summarize it since I wrote it the exact way it has been said. Thank you :)

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Interview between Jackson Québec and Andy Picheta on September 1st 2011 at 5h30pm, Quebec time.

Note: What is written between ( ) has been said or something that meant the same as been said, but the sound was cut on the recording due to speaker phone.

1st concern: THE CHILDREN

(Hi, presentation etc...)
AP: Sorry we couldn’t join you yesterday. So what I’m doing or what I’m trying to do is start correcting, try to address some of the issues the fans had, the issues that led you to co-sign that open letter to Chris Hunt at GLE. And just try to explain a little bit about what we’re doing and hopefully get (your side) to see that you may not agree with the timing or you may not agree with necessarily the structure but to see, you know that we have the (best intentions to go on with) that family tribute at Cardiff.

JQ: Yeah I get that...
AP: So do you want to tell me about some of the concerns you’ve had representing Quebecers MJ fans?

JQ: Well, actually my biggest concern would be about the children. So my first question would be really easy: Do you think Michael Jackson’s children are poor?
AP: Do we think they are poor? We think that the terms of... from the Estate is doing with Michael’s children, that they are safe started later on in life and we wanted to, if Katherine Jackson is the legal guardian, she has small degree of financial independence, because as a matter the only money that she gets, she gets it from the Estate. The children of course, are incredibly rich, with legacy I suppose, but their access to is terms I believe in a way that we felt we wanted to help Katherine Jackson, Ms. Jackson earlier that the Estate had in mind.

JQ: So since you just said that the Estate manages the trust for the children, you felt the need to give Katherine a new trust for the children, so why is she in charge of this new trust you’ve just set?
AP: Because she’s the children guardian.

JQ: But, I thought Michael chose the Estate to take care financially of his kids and the way I read his will, it was like very well done, in a way that they don’t get all the money already so, it’s better for their future...
AP: But I need to make it clear, we are not against anything that the Estate is doing, we respect what the Estate is doing, we respect what they’re doing for Michael’s children. But we felt as that a gesture, a proper gesture from us would be to (help Katherine) as well as the (children).

JQ: So the money goes to Katherine?
AP: It goes to the trust fund.

JQ: Ok, why does the kids appear in the terms and conditions of the concert?
AP: I know! This one caught me by surprise cause I didn’t read it. Another fan did ask the same question. The terms and conditions were written by lawyers and we are presenting the official Jackson family tribute concert and out of that, is the fact that the children are family (and it proves that we are not imposters). But to be honest, I expect they put it in to give (credibility) to the fact that this is the official family tribute concert and I know that Jermaine and Randy are very aggressively against and I know that Janet has very diplomatically and very, in a dignified way said (she won’t be taking part).

JQ: So you don’t think they put the kids in the terms and conditions to sell more tickets?
AP: No, Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I know the lawyers, and I know that they were probably trying to show that this is an official concert. I really don’t think that the selling of tickets has anything to do with that, the children aren’t performing, they don’t want to be on stage, as far as I know they aren’t gonna do anything except to be there with Katherine.

JQ: Are the kids gonna perform at the concert?.
AP: Absolutely not, absolutely not.

JQ: So no speech either?
AP: I’ve seen a very rough (appearing) order and they are not there either at all.

JQ: Who made the 100 000$ check and who signed it?
AP: It was signed by Chris Hunt, the president of Global Live.

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Next subject to come as soon as I'm finished writting it :)
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^ a follow up question would have been, what about the kids appearing in the T&C make it more official? I don't see the correlation between the kids in T&C and the official status of the tribute. The only way this tribute would be considered official is if the estate had given them an official status. Which is not the case...So this argument is just plain stupid.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^ feel free to contact them and ask them, no conference call will be perfect nor express 100% of all the concerns and questions everybody has:) That's why I think it's good that more than 1 fan group took part, to see what the others asked and continue with our own concerns ;) and anyway, we all know whatever we ask it'll not make much sense :lol:

:hug:

On a side note, though I can't agree with his explanation nor with the concert, I have to say he was very polite and answered all my questions, so the only + sign I can give him is for his patience, it was actually 22h30 for him and he was in the streets of London, I could hear the ambulance, cars and everything around :lol:
 
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Do they even have any logic here? I really wonder how they got their law degree if he claimed it's all lawyers doing. What's the logic between putting the kids in C&T equal to this is the official tribute??? If we follow their logic, why didn't they put 3T's name, other Jackson brother's names???? The truth is it's not official tribute by "law" because the estate did not prove it. Currently, none of the J family members can have a say to say this is the official one. I can't believe they are blaming these on the lawyers lol. I think they clearly know how unofficial they are so they have to put PPB in it.

and what's all those they think Katherine needs help talk????!!!! I just can't get it. It's really sad but hilarious at the same time. The kids are wealth but they still need financial help XD How about all the other kids that don't even have money to buy food? Unbelievable...............They just can't admit that the money is the fee to put PPB on board. It's really quite pathetic.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

their access to is terms i believe in a way that we felt we wanted to help katherine jackson


how is the trust fund helping katherine if she can't touch the money until the kids turn 21?


Scam

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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^Thank you for saying it three times, I was confused after the first two.
 
Carinemjj;3473756 said:
:) Ok, here's the first part written of my conference call with Andy Picheta, I had 4 different subjects I wanted to discuss, and the first was Michael's children. Please don't alter, change or summarize it since I wrote it the exact way it has been said. Thank you :)

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Interview between Jackson Québec and Andy Picheta on September 1st 2011 at 5h30pm, Quebec time.

Note: What is written between ( ) has been said or something that meant the same as been said, but the sound was cut on the recording due to speaker phone.

1st concern: THE CHILDREN

(Hi, presentation etc...)
AP: Sorry we couldn’t join you yesterday. So what I’m doing or what I’m trying to do is start correcting, try to address some of the issues the fans had, the issues that led you to co-sign that open letter to Chris Hunt at GLE. And just try to explain a little bit about what we’re doing and hopefully get (your side) to see that you may not agree with the timing or you may not agree with necessarily the structure but to see, you know that we have the (best intentions to go on with) that family tribute at Cardiff.

JQ: Yeah I get that...
AP: So do you want to tell me about some of the concerns you’ve had representing Quebecers MJ fans?

JQ: Well, actually my biggest concern would be about the children. So my first question would be really easy: Do you think Michael Jackson’s children are poor?
AP: Do we think they are poor? We think that the terms of... from the Estate is doing with Michael’s children, that they are safe started later on in life and we wanted to, if Katherine Jackson is the legal guardian, she has small degree of financial independence, because as a matter the only money that she gets, she gets it from the Estate. The children of course, are incredibly rich, with legacy I suppose, but their access to is terms I believe in a way that we felt we wanted to help Katherine Jackson, Ms. Jackson earlier that the Estate had in mind.

JQ: So since you just said that the Estate manages the trust for the children, you felt the need to give Katherine a new trust for the children, so why is she in charge of this new trust you’ve just set?
AP: Because she’s the children guardian.

JQ: But, I thought Michael chose the Estate to take care financially of his kids and the way I read his will, it was like very well done, in a way that they don’t get all the money already so, it’s better for their future...
AP: But I need to make it clear, we are not against anything that the Estate is doing, we respect what the Estate is doing, we respect what they’re doing for Michael’s children. But we felt as that a gesture, a proper gesture from us would be to (help Katherine) as well as the (children).

JQ: So the money goes to Katherine?
AP: It goes to the trust fund.

JQ: Ok, why does the kids appear in the terms and conditions of the concert?
AP: I know! This one caught me by surprise cause I didn’t read it. Another fan did ask the same question. The terms and conditions were written by lawyers and we are presenting the official Jackson family tribute concert and out of that, is the fact that the children are family (and it proves that we are not imposters). But to be honest, I expect they put it in to give (credibility) to the fact that this is the official family tribute concert and I know that Jermaine and Randy are very aggressively against and I know that Janet has very diplomatically and very, in a dignified way said (she won’t be taking part).

JQ: So you don’t think they put the kids in the terms and conditions to sell more tickets?
AP: No, Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I know the lawyers, and I know that they were probably trying to show that this is an official concert. I really don’t think that the selling of tickets has anything to do with that, the children aren’t performing, they don’t want to be on stage, as far as I know they aren’t gonna do anything except to be there with Katherine.

JQ: Are the kids gonna perform at the concert?.
AP: Absolutely not, absolutely not.

JQ: So no speech either?
AP: I’ve seen a very rough (appearing) order and they are not there either at all.

JQ: Who made the 100 000$ check and who signed it?
AP: It was signed by Chris Hunt, the president of Global Live.

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Next subject to come as soon as I'm finished writting it :)

Thank you so much for taking the time to ask those questions Now I have a question Maybe Ivy can answer it. Can GLE Legally go over the estates head and start a trust fund for the kids? Or is it the same as for example....if they had a rich old auntie and she passed away and she left them lots of money and they would inherit it when she passed?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Thank you Carine.

How exactly does a trust fund for the children help Katherine??

You were right about their answers so far Carine!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

It makes you wonder what kind of story LaToya and Mrs Jackson fed GLE to lead them to believe that Mrs Jackson was in such dire need of assistance.

And if Mrs Jackson is going around telling people sob stories about how rough she has it, she is spitting in Michael's face. That man made sure that she would receive what she needs and what the children need. She does not have to drive a stroke for it. And it appears that she is bemoaning her lot in life. This would plain break Michael's heart.
 
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More nonsense, he wanted Katherine to have the money because her money comes from the Estate, yet she does not get the money it goes to the kids. Is this guy listening to what he is saying. He did not know what was in the contract because lawyers made it, and they did not know what was on the FB because different people were working on it. By the time we finish this thread my intelligence would have diminished by 50%!!!!


Guys in what way has the conference calls benefited us? Did we gain anything by them? Or is it too early to tell.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I do not know what is going on as far as what, when and how much is received by the heirs, but as of last week there has been an increase in big name Stars coming into this project. It can only be to support Mom Jackson. If it is not a rumor than the Queen of Soul will be a part of the Tribute, Beyonce' will be performing via satellite, Ne Yo and others. I cannot imagine neither Aretha nor Beyonce' allowing her name to be mixed up in anything shady. (let's not forget about JayZ)
 
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^^I did not hear the rumor of the Queen of Soul, so they are trying to get all the old school people in. So now they have a very young group of artists and a much older group of artists. I wonder if there is a plan to this madness.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I do not know what is going on as far as what, when and how much is received by the heirs, but as of last week there has been an increase in big name Stars coming into this project. It can only be to support Mom Jackson. If it is not a rumor than the Queen of Soul will be a part of the Tribute, Beyonce' will be performing via satellite, Ne Yo and others. I cannot imagine neither Aretha nor Beyonce' allowing her name to be mixed up in anything shady. (let's not forget about JayZ)[/QUOTE

well, Aretha doesn't fly...another video performance.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^Why doesn't she fly? Now we have possibly 2 video cameos, so between now and end of September, they will add a few more artists.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I do not know what is going on as far as what, when and how much is received by the heirs, but as of last week there has been an increase in big name Stars coming into this project. It can only be to support Mom Jackson. If it is not a rumor than the Queen of Soul will be a part of the Tribute, Beyonce' will be performing via satellite, Ne Yo and others. I cannot imagine neither Aretha nor Beyonce' allowing her name to be mixed up in anything shady. (let's not forget about JayZ)[/QUOTE
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well, Aretha doesn't fly...another video performance.


AND THE JOKE GETS FUNNIER WITH THESE DAMN PEOPLE..
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^Why doesn't she fly? Now we have possibly 2 video cameos, so between now and end of September, they will add a few more artists.

She is afraid of planes. It's well known...


How has not flying hindered your career?
Kevin Mull, LITITZ, PA.
It has not hindered my career at all. Miss Franklin can get around. I have been everywhere, believe me, on this bus--everywhere except across the ocean. And if it were an amphibious bus, I might do that. When I was flying, I never saw the U.S. and what it really looked like. I saw the back of the concert hall, the hotel and the airport. Now I really see America. The last time I flew was in '82. I had such a bad flight. A two-engine plane. The flight was dipsy-doodling up and down all the way home. I said, "Oh, my God, when I get to Detroit, that's it. That is it." And I have not flown since. But I intend to. It's been a long time.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1966458,00.html#ixzz1WqUGVK00

T
his interview was done last year...but after her illness she repeated she won't fly.
 
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trial might be delayed

Jackson doctor defense files appeal, seeks delay

By LINDA DEUTSCH - AP Special Correspondent | AP – 27 mins ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Lawyers for Michael Jackson's doctor have filed an emergency appeal seeking to overturn a judge's refusal to sequester jurors in his upcoming trial.

Attorneys asked to delay the start of jury selection on Sept. 8 until the issue of sequestration is decided by the appellate court.

In a 28-page petition filed late Friday, lawyers said jurors will be poisoned by publicity unless they are locked up in a hotel during Dr. Conrad Murray's trial. They acknowledged that their request is extraordinary, but so was Jackson, whose legacy will feed news coverage.

In the alternative, they asked that the judge rescind his decision to have the trial televised.

Murray is accused of giving Jackson an overdose of the anesthetic propofol
 
ivy;3473842 said:
trial might be delayed

Jackson doctor defense files appeal, seeks delay

By LINDA DEUTSCH - AP Special Correspondent | AP – 27 mins ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Lawyers for Michael Jackson's doctor have filed an emergency appeal seeking to overturn a judge's refusal to sequester jurors in his upcoming trial.

Attorneys asked to delay the start of jury selection on Sept. 8 until the issue of sequestration is decided by the appellate court.

In a 28-page petition filed late Friday, lawyers said jurors will be poisoned by publicity unless they are locked up in a hotel during Dr. Conrad Murray's trial. They acknowledged that their request is extraordinary, but so was Jackson, whose legacy will feed news coverage.

In the alternative, they asked that the judge rescind his decision to have the trial televised.

Murray is accused of giving Jackson an overdose of the anesthetic propofol

OMG!!! I cannot believe this...potentially another delay?

Interesting request.. I'd rather the trial not be televised & not delayed.
 
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ivy;3473842 said:
trial might be delayed

Jackson doctor defense files appeal, seeks delay

By LINDA DEUTSCH - AP Special Correspondent | AP – 27 mins ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Lawyers for Michael Jackson's doctor have filed an emergency appeal seeking to overturn a judge's refusal to sequester jurors in his upcoming trial.

Attorneys asked to delay the start of jury selection on Sept. 8 until the issue of sequestration is decided by the appellate court.

In a 28-page petition filed late Friday, lawyers said jurors will be poisoned by publicity unless they are locked up in a hotel during Dr. Conrad Murray's trial. They acknowledged that their request is extraordinary, but so was Jackson, whose legacy will feed news coverage.

In the alternative, they asked that the judge rescind his decision to have the trial televised.

Murray is accused of giving Jackson an overdose of the anesthetic propofol

:banghead: :banghead:

You gotta be kidding! please please judge pastor do not give murray what he wants :pray: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY!!! :rant:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

OMG!!! I cannot believe this...potentially another delay?

Interesting request.. I'd rather the trial not be televised & not delayed.

I think regardless of what the decision might be, appeals court taking the time to examine and making a decision could delay the trial. They got 3 business days before the jury selection starts.


:banghead: :banghead:

You gotta be kidding! please please judge pastor do not give murray what he wants :pray: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY!!! :rant:

it's not in Pastor's hand. they have filed an appeal in a higher court against Pastor.
 
Mneme;3473688 said:
It is a disgusting, slushy advertising of GLE with the fans. The sentence
„the fans are better organised than the Estate“
if is ungainly buyer's catch.
We should be really watchful.

The sentence was actually that the fans were more organised than GLE, That's what Picheta said, as much as we want to spit on GLE, don't twist the facts ;)
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^I thought the same thing. I asked why would they give a letter to groups with small numbers of fans, when Gaz has a group with thousands of fans. I believe they want to sway the smaller groups to their way of thinking and make them feel important because they are getting inside information from Hunt. I cannot trust anything Hunt does right now. Let's face it, MJJC is huge, and should be the first group contacted. Further, Gaz is in the UK.

And this is not gonna happen, or I wouldn't have asked MJJC to publish it instead of me spreading it from the start. If he thought he was doing me a favor and thought that I only lived in a bubble with the few members of my group, then too bad for him, since I also think that MJJC should have had it first (said it in the 2nd part of my call) I had no reason to publish it myself. Thanks. ;)

Oh, and I'm not more stupid, vulnerable or unable to think by myself because my group is smaller :lol:
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

It makes you wonder what kind of story LaToya and Mrs Jackson fed GLE to lead them to believe that Mrs Jackson was in such dire need of assistance.

And if Mrs Jackson is going around telling people sob stories about how rough she has it, she is spitting in Michael's face. That man made sure that she would receive what she needs and what the children need. She does not have to drive a stroke for it. And it appears that she is bemoaning her lot in life. This would plain break Michael's heart.

This is potentially SERIOUS in a legal sense. If Katherine is to manage the trust FOR the children, then she must account for where the money goes, how it grows, and all the rest of that. AND pay taxes on it if she spends it! It sounds like a way of laundering money for HER to avoid the Korean lawsuit. This is a very, very sticky situation, and I'm beginning to wonder if she is in possession of all her faculties at this point, and if ANOTHER Jackson masterminded this? (cough -cough?) Because if she misuses the money designated for the CHILDREN, she could run afoul of the law in a pretty serious way. Maybe she will use it for "the children's expenses," and then OOPS, it's GONE? (and Jackson siblings have new cars?) She is USING Michael's name, IMHO, and maybe someone is using HER, quite badly. I fear this will not end well for her.. . . .
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

it's not in Pastor's hand. they have filed an appeal in a higher court against Pastor.

That is just stupid imo
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

For fecks sake.how long would it take for the appeal court to rule
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Do they even have any logic here? * I really wonder how they got their law degree if he claimed it's all lawyers doing. *What's the logic between putting the kids in C&T equal to this is the official tribute??? *If we follow their logic, why didn't they put 3T's name, other Jackson brother's names???? The truth is it's not official tribute by "law" because the estate did not prove it. *Currently, none of the J family members can have a say to say this is the official one.
Least of all, minor children!

It makes you wonder what kind of story LaToya and Mrs Jackson fed GLE to lead them to believe that Mrs Jackson was in such dire need of assistance.*
Indeed. The estate pays for a roof over their heads, food, clothing, transportation, private school, bodyguards, the works. So what expenses can Katherine possibly have that are not met?

Guys in what way has the conference calls benefited us? *Did we gain anything by them?
A couple of laughs?

The trial is around the corner. I'm ready to chuck this whole sordid family mess and move on.
 
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