MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

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I think they are stalling. They are trying to stop their client from going to jail.

So if the trial is delayed will Janet, Jermaine and Randy reconsider?
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I think they are stalling. They are trying to stop their client from going to jail.

So if the trial is delayed will Janet, Jermaine and Randy reconsider?

If they are smart, they will stay as far away from this crap fest as humanly possible. At this point, any Jackson who support this tribute is committing career suicide by the fanbase. This tribute has gone over so badly that it broke the backs of many fans who would normally support Mrs. Jackson.

Also, this tribute makes Mrs. Jackson look even more like an ungrateful jerk. Her is a woman complaining about not getting enough money for her son's estate and she gets more money in a year than most people will ever see in their lifetime.
 
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At this rate, Michael may not even see justice this year :(

Murray and his team has been doing this for sometime. Everytime the trial gets closer, they pull some ish to get it pushed back. They need to stop accomodating their demands, and move forward this time. I hope.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

trustee of a trust is the person who manages the trust assets. and that means that Katherine will be the one that manages that $100K until the kids turn 21.



Isn't it a bit unusual to make an 82 -year old a trustee for a financial arrangement that needs to last for a minimum of 7 years? I wonder who the 'backup' trustees are, in the case that Katherine will not be able to complete this duty for the full term ( Blanket is a long way from 21).
 
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Isn't it a bit unusual to make an 82 -year old a trustee for a financial arrangement that needs to last for a minimum of 7 years? I wonder who the 'backup' trustees are, in the case that Katherine will not be able to complete this duty for the full term ( Blanket is a long way from 21).

Even worse is an 82-year old woman with no financial expertise / experience or whatsoever. This is NOT about the children. This is about using a backdoor to support the Jacksons clan.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

It makes you wonder what kind of story LaToya and Mrs Jackson fed GLE to lead them to believe that Mrs Jackson was in such dire need of assistance.

And if Mrs Jackson is going around telling people sob stories about how rough she has it, she is spitting in Michael's face. That man made sure that she would receive what she needs and what the children need. She does not have to drive a stroke for it. And it appears that she is bemoaning her lot in life. This would plain break Michael's heart.

That would be the same story that Howard Mann got, the same story that got circulated around the fan base, the same story that makes some people believe that Branca is a thief, the same story that (with some people) defies common sense and hard facts.

None of this has anything to do with how rich or poor KJ or the children are, this is about control. I strongly believe that the Jacksons feel that KJ should have contol of the estate funds and they can't stand the fact that others are controlling the finances. Obviously we don't know what goes on but I bet that the estate question KJ expenses far more than Michael ever did.
 
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This is the link to the report of the conference call between Fans against MFT and Randy Picheta : http://docs.com/EALX?ref=nf

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nteresting answers re-trust (who is it for really).
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^^^^ Thank you for the link Ben, I know it shouldn't but it did make me laugh. I think it's quite clear to me exactly who the 'trust' is for.
 
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trial might be delayed
Jackson doctor defense files appeal, seeks delay.....

So, and now everybody can drive to Cardiff---or?

Maybe the poor "fall guy" Murray has got an free- ticket from LaToya for the Cardiff-concert ----who knows.

I apologise for my Sarkasmus!
But this application of the Murray defenders fits to the criticism of the concert like the lid on the pot fits.
 
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^^^^^ Thank you for the link Ben, I know it shouldn't but it did make me laugh. I think it's quite clear to me exactly who the 'trust' is for.

I love the way he's trying to convince us that Rowe has nothing to do with it. Right.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I think the only part which is true is that they had no idea what kind of fans they were dealing with. Hard awakening.
 
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I think the only part which is true is that they had no idea what kind of fans they were dealing with. Hard awakening.

For real! The weird thing is that would mean LaToya doesn't know what kind of fans she's dealing with either... Well, that's possible too I guess :lol:
 
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It amazes me that some people have brought this whole 'there will never be another tribute concert for Michael'. Says who?
 
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Absolutely. I dont see why this would be a one time opportunity. This argument is just ridiculous.

Unless they're talking about being ripped off by crooks while watching 4 hours of variety?
 
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Let,s just hope it means that it's a one time thing FOR them and the Jackson, that after this one they won't be attempting another one.
:pray:

Anyway, since GLE was founded simply for this, I guess the company will disapear as fast as it came to 'life'
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Absolutely. I dont see why this would be a one time opportunity. This argument is just ridiculous.

Unless they're talking about being ripped off by crooks while watching 4 hours of variety?

I wonder given the number of acts how is this supposed to be 4 hours? If they do plan to put this on DVD, they can't use any of Michael's solo songs from Off the Wall on, which leaves on J5 songs and stuff they did as the Jacksons. They also can't do any of the complex dance numbers since I think only one group are actually dancers, but not singers.

Unless they plan to have allot of filler or people are going to be singing allot of numbers untily their throats are sore, I can't see how this tribute would get passed the three hour mark.
 
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Are they supposed to announce more performers?
 
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It is really sad how this is all just a money making scheme and it has nothing to do with Michael. It's worse that his own family is behind it. They just can't accept that they were not in the will. They can't expect people to believe that Katherine and the kids don't get anything from the estate when they have to show the courts what they are doing with the money. Even if this wasn't Michael and I saw this happening to someone else I would feel the same. I am just going to ignore his family for the most part and not interested in their products and schemes.
 
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Hmm...
 
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:) Ok, here's the first part written of my conference call with Andy Picheta, I had 4 different subjects I wanted to discuss, and the first was Michael's children. Please don't alter, change or summarize it since I wrote it the exact way it has been said. Thank you :)

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Interview between Jackson Québec and Andy Picheta on September 1st 2011 at 5h30pm, Quebec time.

Note: What is written between ( ) has been said or something that meant the same as been said, but the sound was cut on the recording due to speaker phone.

1st concern: THE CHILDREN

(Hi, presentation etc...)
AP: Sorry we couldn’t join you yesterday. So what I’m doing or what I’m trying to do is start correcting, try to address some of the issues the fans had, the issues that led you to co-sign that open letter to Chris Hunt at GLE. And just try to explain a little bit about what we’re doing and hopefully get (your side) to see that you may not agree with the timing or you may not agree with necessarily the structure but to see, you know that we have the (best intentions to go on with) that family tribute at Cardiff.

JQ: Yeah I get that...
AP: So do you want to tell me about some of the concerns you’ve had representing Quebecers MJ fans?

JQ: Well, actually my biggest concern would be about the children. So my first question would be really easy: Do you think Michael Jackson’s children are poor?
AP: Do we think they are poor? We think that the terms of... from the Estate is doing with Michael’s children, that they are safe started later on in life and we wanted to, if Katherine Jackson is the legal guardian, she has small degree of financial independence, because as a matter the only money that she gets, she gets it from the Estate. The children of course, are incredibly rich, with legacy I suppose, but their access to is terms I believe in a way that we felt we wanted to help Katherine Jackson, Ms. Jackson earlier that the Estate had in mind.

JQ: So since you just said that the Estate manages the trust for the children, you felt the need to give Katherine a new trust for the children, so why is she in charge of this new trust you’ve just set?
AP: Because she’s the children guardian.

JQ: But, I thought Michael chose the Estate to take care financially of his kids and the way I read his will, it was like very well done, in a way that they don’t get all the money already so, it’s better for their future...
AP: But I need to make it clear, we are not against anything that the Estate is doing, we respect what the Estate is doing, we respect what they’re doing for Michael’s children. But we felt as that a gesture, a proper gesture from us would be to (help Katherine) as well as the (children).

JQ: So the money goes to Katherine?
AP: It goes to the trust fund.

JQ: Ok, why does the kids appear in the terms and conditions of the concert?
AP: I know! This one caught me by surprise cause I didn’t read it. Another fan did ask the same question. The terms and conditions were written by lawyers and we are presenting the official Jackson family tribute concert and out of that, is the fact that the children are family (and it proves that we are not imposters). But to be honest, I expect they put it in to give (credibility) to the fact that this is the official family tribute concert and I know that Jermaine and Randy are very aggressively against and I know that Janet has very diplomatically and very, in a dignified way said (she won’t be taking part).

JQ: So you don’t think they put the kids in the terms and conditions to sell more tickets?
AP: No, Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I know the lawyers, and I know that they were probably trying to show that this is an official concert. I really don’t think that the selling of tickets has anything to do with that, the children aren’t performing, they don’t want to be on stage, as far as I know they aren’t gonna do anything except to be there with Katherine.

JQ: Are the kids gonna perform at the concert?.
AP: Absolutely not, absolutely not.

JQ: So no speech either?
AP: I’ve seen a very rough (appearing) order and they are not there either at all.

JQ: Who made the 100 000$ check and who signed it?
AP: It was signed by Chris Hunt, the president of Global Live.

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Next subject to come as soon as I'm finished writting it :)


From what I know Chris took money out of his own pocket for the trust and only his.
 
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Because it absolutely does not reflect everyone's opinion. Michael's fans love him and have love and respect for their family.

Those 2 sentences seem contradictory to me.

Michael's fans love him of course, by definition. As far as his family goes, I'm afraid I can't agree with your statement. Michael and his family are separate entities, and loving the first doesnt mean you have to love the others.
 
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Me I don't respect people, Jackson$ or not, who trash him, use him, use his kids for Money.
 
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After so much time I spent with Michael I once again know for sure what his thoughts about his family was. And yes he loved his mother, but she also hurt him on a few occasions. And I'm almost sure what he would think about her saying the things she has on TV about his appearance etc. And fans doesn't hate his mother, they are disappointed and they have the right to be.
 
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After so much time I spent with Michael I once again know for sure what his thoughts about his family was. And yes he loved his mother, but she also hurt him on a few occasions. And I'm almost sure what he would think about her saying the things she has on TV about his appearance etc. And fans doesn't hate his mother, they are disappointed and they have the right to be.

THIS.....and might I just add.....HUGELY DISAPPOINTED! From what we know of Michael, whether its from what he said or otherwise, no one can truly believe he would pleased with the actions of his family members since his passing.
 
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I don't hate his mother. But why is she and others implying that the estate is not giving her any money and the kids? It can't be true when there are papers saying how much the estate has given and done for them since Michael's death. That kind of money most of us will never get in our lifetime. The way this promoter talks and this comes across deceiving like. It's not nice. If Katherine isn't supported if I was her I would go to court about that. She needs more money to support the other Jacksons who were left out of the will. Michael did way beyond and more for his family when he was here and that was enough. He did right by his kids and mother.
 
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And fans doesn't hate his mother, they are disappointed and they have the right to be.

I agree.

What you see is disappointment. I believe KJ has certain values, and principles I personally dont agree with, which made her nag Michael into working with his siblings, and help them financially. And I think now those beliefs make her do things that are absolutely wrong regarding Michael's legacy and more importantly his kids. I will even go further, I think she's too old to take care of 3 young kids, and I suspect she relies a lot on some of her kids to help. Which would not be too bad if they werent LaToya.

I dont agree with name callings, but I also believe fans are allowed to express their anger and disapointment on forums as well. If not here, then where?

Finally, I have realized that a lot of people who expressed love, support and respect to the Jackson family had no clue what some of those people had done in the past, or what they were doing now.
 
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^^But, how about the values that make Katherine the mother Michael loved so much? Katherine's strengh, grace and her unwavering support of Michael during his darkest hours? Like everyone in the world, Katherine is not perfect. She has values that people admire. She also has values that people dislike and disagree. Let me say I'm very disappointed at her recent business decisions. When I saw the children on Good Morning America, I started to wonder what Katherine's thinking. But, I cannot agree with the people who call her greedy and crazy. We cannot magnify the bad attributes and ignore the goods. It's not fair to Katherine if we just remember that one inappropriate comment she had on Michael's appearance and forget about the rest of the interview. I watched the Oprah interview. I don't think the comment on Michael's plastic surgeries is necessary (actually, my own very loving mother made a very hurtful comment about my appearance once. but, it didn't take away a single bit of her love. it really didn't.) The rest of the interview, she spoke of Michael lovingly.

We think we get the complete picture, but we don't. Taj has a point when he said we only see 1/100 of the stuff going on. We simply don't know what happened behind the scene.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

After so much time I spent with Michael I once again know for sure what his thoughts about his family was. And yes he loved his mother, but she also hurt him on a few occasions. And I'm almost sure what he would think about her saying the things she has on TV about his appearance etc. And fans doesn't hate his mother, they are disappointed and they have the right to be.
I agree. I know that I don't hate Mrs. Katherine but I am extremely disappointed in some of her actions. Criticism and disappointment is not the same thing as hate.
 
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