MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

The tone of the letter shouldn't surprise us. Mr Hunt is working with people who have no respect for the legitimacy of Michael's Estate.

There were many offensive things for me in that letter but the one that stands out is that the whole notion of GLE taking better financial care of Michael's children than the Estate, THAN MICHAEL HIMSELF ARRANGED. The attack on the Estate is an attack on the wishes of Michael Jackson.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

The estate spent 9 million on the kids and kat in the first year. 100k wouldnt last on a 30 min shopping trip.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^^^ I know you didn't Carine :rofl: BTW you did a really good job on your questions.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

The tone of the letter shouldn't surprise us. Mr Hunt is working with people who have no respect for the legitimacy of Michael's Estate.

There were many offensive things for me in that letter but the one that stands out is that the whole notion of GLE taking better financial care of Michael's children than the Estate, THAN MICHAEL HIMSELF ARRANGED. The attack on the Estate is an attack on the wishes of Michael Jackson.


Guys what is our next step? Should we inform the estate that the boycott is still on and we support them? GLE is becoming more disrespectful and nasty, so something needs to be done on our side now.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

The tone of the letter shouldn't surprise us. Mr Hunt is working with people who have no respect for the legitimacy of Michael's Estate.

There were many offensive things for me in that letter but the one that stands out is that the whole notion of GLE taking better financial care of Michael's children than the Estate, THAN MICHAEL HIMSELF ARRANGED. The attack on the Estate is an attack on the wishes of Michael Jackson.

funny enough like I mentioned before GLE isn't taking better financial care of Michael's children. They are just either totally clueless or totally delusional. and here's why

- The net income .. which is set aside for the benefit of the children shall be paid or used for the benefit ... at the discretion of the trustee until said child attains the age of 21. - translation : executors determine their allowance until the children are 21 yrs old

- Thereafter (meaning after they turn 21) trustee shall pay or apply for their benefit the net income of his/her share of the trust estate in convenient installments but at least annually. - translation: children get the net income of the estate when they turn 21.

- furthermore if such person shall be in need of funds to purchase a home, start a family or commence, invest in or engage in a business , the trustee may accelerate distribution... - translation: if children need more money then the income they are getting, executors can give it to them from their shares earlier.

in short when children turns 21 and whenever they need money, they'll be better taken care of than the GLE's $100 K.

edited to add: Elvis Estate earns $50 million annually - Assume for a while that when the MJ's kids turn 21 this will be the yearly amount. Assume that half of it goes to taxes and another half goes into costs of managing the estate and they are left with $12 million. divide it to 3 and they'll be getting like $4 million per year. So you see that the $33,000 per kid is a joke in MJ Estate's earning potential.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Ha Ha!! The OPEN letter from the estate made somebody mad!!!

That $100,000 will pay for 3 months of Prince's school tuition:doh:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

edited to add: Elvis Estate earns $50 million annually - Assume for a while that when the MJ's kids turn 21 this will be the yearly amount. Assume that half of it goes to taxes and another half goes into costs of managing the estate and they are left with $12 million of net income. divide it to 3 and they'll be getting like $4 million per year. So you see that the $33,000 per kid is a joke when compared to MJ Estate's earning potential.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Don't forget as 'the third charity' the trust find will receive a percentage of the ticket sales.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I also asked about that and he said it would be an edited version that would be broadcast...

have to check back my recording to see if he meant that no MJ songs would be televised...I think he changed the subject a little when I asked that. :lol:

Yes! That would be great! A tribute to Michael with NO Michael songs and NO Michael images
.....What are they going to call it...The Anonymous Tribute?

I can hardly wait.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

What does being sole trustee of the trust fund allow Katherine to do?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

What does being sole trustee of the trust fund allow Katherine to do?

trustee of a trust is the person who manages the trust assets. and that means that Katherine will be the one that manages that $100K until the kids turn 21.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

What does being sole trustee of the trust fund allow Katherine to do?

I think you'd have to see the trust documents to know that. If such a trust even exists. I think it's just a way to give Katherine money that the Korean firm can't access.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I think you'd have to see the trust documents to know that. If such a trust even exists. I think it's just a way to give Katherine money that the Korean firm can't access.
Bingo!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Ivy, what is our next step as fan groups? I am tired of talking and need some action.

We all know the reason GLE gave for the pledge was a bunch of nonsense. They did it to pretend the concert would benefit the children. They later came up with this explanation because they do not know the details of the will, and they really do not care.

Have the estate online team said anything lately?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

trustee of a trust is the person who manages the trust assets. and that means that Katherine will be the one that manages that $100K until the kids turn 21.

Can Katherine "borrow" money from the trust?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^There are usually strict rules in relation to trusts. Since this is a pledge, who knows if this trust will materialize.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

If we believe what Hunt said (Ah ah), there should be at least 100K on it, right?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

100k? Wow...generous.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

If we believe what Hunt said (Ah ah), there should be at least 100K on it, right?

That was a 'pledge'.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Thank you, Ivy.

The whole trust fund thing is so ridiculous. GLE believes that giving those children some pocket money before the Estate makes GLE heroes.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

That's what they said, they put $100 000 of their own money to start the trust, hence the check to KJ at the press conference.
 
GLE shows a letter to the Estate lawyer Weitzman to the fans.
I trust GLE in no case, and her only aim is: Ticket sales. Therefore, I ask me, why do they give this letter to some well-chosen fans.

It could be that GLE wants to do a wedge between Estate and fans:
GLE plays with the vanity of the fans. GLE gives the letter to the fans which Weitzmann / Branca does not give to the fans ….

I think, Mr. Weitzman / Mr. Branca have not published the letter because it was NOT an OPEN LETTER. And one does not make such a thing public if not BOTH SIDES agree with it.

We do not know what will be the next step of the Estate. Maybe they have good reasons to do first their work and then to publish the result.

Till present Mr. Branca has worked always thus. And thus he will further do it. And this should be enough for us.

It is a disgusting, slushy advertising of GLE with the fans. The sentence
„the fans are better organised than the Estate“
if is ungainly buyer's catch.
We should be really watchful.
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^^^ I know you didn't Carine :rofl: BTW you did a really good job on your questions.

Thank you, :hug: but really, I haven't finished writting it but I can't wait to finish, nothing to do with glory or stuff, just that some answers were kinda shocking, and some really funny. Will try to finish that during the weekend.
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Ivy, what is our next step as fan groups? I am tired of talking and need some action.

I think we pretty much done what we could do. We voiced our concerns, asked to be cancelled. If they aren't going to listen to the fans then they won't. I think any cancellation after this point is dependent on ticket sales. and honestly jury selection begins in less than a week. We will turn our attention to it when it starts. we wouldn't care about the tribute then.

Have the estate online team said anything lately?

no. I'm not sure if anyone asked them about their opinion either.

Can Katherine "borrow" money from the trust?

^^There are usually strict rules in relation to trusts. Since this is a pledge, who knows if this trust will materialize.

It depends on the trust rules as Petrarose said. For example Branca and McClain is running the MJ trust and that document allows them to buy , sell, invest etc.. so Katherine can have similar freedom with the money. obviously trusts need to be managed for the benefit of the beneficiaries but that doesn't always happen. For example Brian Oxman's wife is about to be suspended for her mismanaging a trust.
 
Mneme;3473688 said:
GLE shows a letter to the Estate lawyer Weitzman to the fans.
I trust GLE in no case, and her only aim is: Ticket sales. Therefore, I ask me, why do they give this letter to some well-chosen fans.

It could be that GLE wants to do a wedge between Estate and fans:
GLE plays with the vanity of the fans. GLE gives the letter to the fans which Weitzmann / Branca does not give to the fans ….

I think, Mr. Weitzman / Mr. Branca have not published the letter because it was NOT an OPEN LETTER. And one does not make such a thing public if not BOTH SIDES agree with it.

We do not know what will be the next step of the Estate. Maybe they have good reasons to do first their work and then to publish the result.

Till present Mr. Branca has worked always thus. And thus he will further do it. And this should be enough for us.

It is a disgusting, slushy advertising of GLE with the fans. The sentence
„the fans are better organised than the Estate“
if is ungainly buyer's catch.
We should be really watchful.

^^I thought the same thing. I asked why would they give a letter to groups with small numbers of fans, when Gaz has a group with thousands of fans. I believe they want to sway the smaller groups to their way of thinking and make them feel important because they are getting inside information from Hunt. I cannot trust anything Hunt does right now. Let's face it, MJJC is huge, and should be the first group contacted. Further, Gaz is in the UK.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I am again speaking with Andy tomorrow regarding answers to my questions,

I wont back down, so they either do it with or with out, its a simple as that,

If nothing is done then that's it for us, there will be no reporting of it here, we will move our attention to a more important thing in that justice is served to Murray for drip feeding Michael propofol when he should not have.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Thank you, :hug: but really, I haven't finished writting it but I can't wait to finish, nothing to do with glory or stuff, just that some answers were kinda shocking, and some really funny. Will try to finish that during the weekend.

Wow, I can't wait to read the rest of it, :hug:

@Petrarose now that would involve them using common sense!
 
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