MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Yep, and I think ego might be a part of it as well..They don't want to be seen as complete failures (lol), so they are just desperately trying to get it to work.
Yep, on the EGO tip.

Especially when Hunt had the nerve to call out Jermaine Jackson and his failed attempt at holding his own Tribute.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Yep, on the EGO tip.

Especially when Hunt had the nerve to call out Jermaine Jackson and his failed attempt at holding his own Tribute.

Because this attempt is such a great success!



Michael Forever Tribute commented on Legendary Michael Jackson Fan Association.
Thank you Wesley. Your summary of our conversation is very comprehensive and accurate. We were unable to reach out to all the Fan clubs tonight so will be continuing our efforts to engage in a constructive dialogue with the fans.



I suggest you give up. Too late for anything constructive.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

So they are still trying to reach out to the fan club owners. How about they stating what changes they have made, if any, when the have these conversations.
 
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Quite frankly they should just get lost if they want to help. There's no use nagging the fans with scams.
 
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Yep, on the EGO tip.

Especially when Hunt had the nerve to call out Jermaine Jackson and his failed attempt at holding his own Tribute.


I kind of said from the beginning that this tribute would happened mostly on the basic of the Jacksons' pride.

I think this family knows that their time in the limelight is quickly reaching its end. People are, quite frankly, sick of this family using Michael's name for their own means. The only reason people like Toya still get top billing is because she is a circus clown. Regardless if you believe her or not she is amusing to watch.

Also in the music business that family is not respected and if anything they are more and less loath. They can't get organize to get their own projects off the ground, look at the reality show, and I think 3T pissed off more than a few people with the whole thing with the album. As this tribute falls apart around them, I see this as the last big money grab using Michael's name. They know it, which is why they won't let this die even if it means throwing away their entire fanbase.
 
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I kind of said from the beginning that this tribute would happened mostly on the basic of the Jacksons' pride.

I think this family knows that their time in the limelight is quickly reaching its end. People are, quite frankly, sick of this family using Michael's name for their own means. The only reason people like Toya still get top billing is because she is a circus clown. Regardless if you believe her or not she is amusing to watch.

Also in the music business that family is not respected and if anything they are more and less loath. They can't get organize to get their own projects off the ground, look at the reality show, and I think 3T pissed off more than a few people with the whole thing with the album. As this tribute falls apart around them, I see this as the last big money grab using Michael's name. They know it, which is why they won't let this die even if it means throwing away their entire fanbase.

Their fanbase? what fanbase? We're no longer in 1968. Those days are long gone. This family is delusional to the point of taking MJ fans as their own. But they are in for a rude awakening.
 
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Their fanbase? what fanbase? We're no longer in 1968. Those days are long gone. This family is delusional to the point of taking MJ fans as their own. But they are in for a rude awakening.

I think some people on twitter worship the family (anyone who came within a foot of MJ during his lifetime) and they had a false sense of entitlement that MJ's fans were Jacksons' fans.

Many times Jermaine has stated the family's or Jacksons' fans...as if his last album released didn't go back over 20 years.

Well, I think judging by Taj's tweet yesterday, it would be fair to assume they got a rude awakening.

Jackie's song tanked. Jermaine's concert in Las Vegas was a TOTAL disaster (tickets were given away minutes before the show to fill the place). Their reality show was another disaster, and was not reviewed (I don't care how they spin it for TMZ).

Latoya's book & album.....I don't' think disaster is strong enough for this one. Despite her going to many high profile shows...her book never made it into the top 100 on Amazon. And 3 weeks ago, I was at a Barnes & Nobles and there was a pile of them in the Clearance bin.

I know Randy recently tweeted they would go back on tour....I can't wait. After this latest faux pas, I wonder who's gonna go support them.

But we have to be ready to face the consequences of their failure. These people don't know anything but entertainment, and I expect them to keep selling off MJ and his kids for years to come.

So get ready for 5th anniversary party....55 birthday party.....Prince graduation bash. Blanket first day at regular school pictures..
 
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I think some people on twitter worship the family (anyone who came within a foot of MJ during his lifetime) and they had a false sense of entitlement that MJ's fans were Jacksons' fans.

Many times Jermaine has stated the family's or Jacksons' fans...as if his last album released didn't go back over 20 years.

Well, I think judging by Taj's tweet yesterday, it would be fair to assume they got a rude awakening.

Jackie's song tanked. Jermaine's concert in Las Vegas was a TOTAL disaster (tickets were given away minutes before the show to fill the place). Their reality show was another disaster, and was not reviewed (I don't care how they spin it for TMZ).

Latoya's book & album.....I don't' think disaster is strong enough for this one. Despite her going to many high profile shows...her book never made it into the top 100 on Amazon. And 3 weeks ago, I was at a Barnes & Nobles and there was a pile of them in the Clearance bin.

I know Randy recently tweeted they would go back on tour....I can't wait. After this latest faux pas, I wonder who's gonna go support them.

But we have to be ready to face the consequences of their failure. These people don't know anything but entertainment, and I expect them to keep selling off MJ and his kids for years to come.

So get ready for 5th anniversary party....55 birthday party.....Prince graduation bash. Blanket first day at regular school pictures..


ya know I love you...you tell it EXACTLY the way it needs to be said, And your thought pattern..is exactly like my own and I am sure MANY fans here. Thank you....:)
 
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I think some people on twitter worship the family (anyone who came within a foot of MJ during his lifetime) and they had a false sense of entitlement that MJ's fans were Jacksons' fans.

Many times Jermaine has stated the family's or Jacksons' fans...as if his last album released didn't go back over 20 years.

Well, I think judging by Taj's tweet yesterday, it would be fair to assume they got a rude awakening.Jackie's song tanked. Jermaine's concert in Las Vegas was a TOTAL disaster (tickets were given away minutes before the show to fill the place). Their reality show was another disaster, and was not reviewed (I don't care how they spin it for TMZ).

Latoya's book & album.....I don't' think disaster is strong enough for this one. Despite her going to many high profile shows...her book never made it into the top 100 on Amazon. And 3 weeks ago, I was at a Barnes & Nobles and there was a pile of them in the Clearance bin.

I know Randy recently tweeted they would go back on tour....I can't wait. After this latest faux pas, I wonder who's gonna go support them.

But we have to be ready to face the consequences of their failure. These people don't know anything but entertainment, and I expect them to keep selling off MJ and his kids for years to come.

So get ready for 5th anniversary party....55 birthday party.....Prince graduation bash. Blanket first day at regular school pictures..
What did Taj tweet yesterday?
 
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Well taj is supposed to be one of the better ones and he promised mj he would protect mjs kids after what mj did for him. Big fat fail
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I wish some of them could see what WE have to deal with as Michael's fans...

Again, do they have any idea how we feel??
 
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Well said ben.they bring it all on themselves with their scams
 
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And what did we do to THEM, Jacksons, to be put through this crap? Do they think it's some kind of game for us? That we enjoy having to cross check every fact, every shady individual they partner with? Don't they think the trial is hard enough?

Start acting respectfully, and maybe the BS you have to deal with will disappear.
 
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tajjackson3 Taj Jackson


I wish some of you could witness the BS we have to deal with as Jacksons.

Taj "appears" to be suffering from the same symptoms as his Auntie LaToya, those being: "I'm not to blame, everybody else is."
 
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tajjackson3 Taj Jackson



I wish some of you could witness the BS we have to deal with as Jacksons.



No thank you. I witnessed enough of the BS the Jackson's put Michael through...
 
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One group after the other. Same reports, same BS contradicting what they said before :


Fans against Michael Forever Tribute

GLE's responses to our questions we asked them this morning is so ridiculous I don't know whether to laugh, cry or give up on humanity completely.

Fans against Michael Forever Tribute

GLE claim "The family felt, and we accepted their view, that a celebration of Michael's music was and is the best way to counter the negativity of the trial."
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Funny i thought they said the venue was booked before the trial was delayed.and there is no negatvity. Mj is not the one on trial hes the victim fools.
 
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Answers to questions from conf. call :

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"...the chance to gather these stars and these Jackson family members together again will not be repeated..." well I don't know about the stars but for money, I'll bet it wouldn't be hard to gather 'these Jackson family members' together again!

Does anyone know if GLE was asked about using the children?

This was announced as a conference call...were there other clubs on the line or just one at a time?

Just came across this, don't think this has been posted yet...

Tribute Concert Promoters Fail to Sway Jackson Fan Clubs
By JAMES C. MCKINLEY JR.
The promoters of a Michael Jackson tribute concert tried to dispel the concerns of fan clubs Monday during a series of international conference calls on Wednesday, but leaders of some large groups said afterwards they were still opposed to the event.

For weeks, fan clubs have criticized the promoters for staging the “Michael Forever” concert in Wales on Oct. 8, around the same time as the involuntary manslaughter trial in California of Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician who was caring for Mr. Jackson when he died in June 2009. Several fan clubs have criticized the promoters for not releasing details about how much money from the concert’s proceeds will go to two charities that Mr. Jackson had supported during his life. Many have also said the promoters should have reached an agreement with Mr. Jackson’s estate before staging the concert.

“In all honesty, they haven’t answered any of my questions,” said Gary Taylor, the president of the Micheal Jackson Community in Britain, which has 80,000 registered members. “Where is the money going? Who is benefiting?”

“They just don’t want to listen to what we have to say,” he added.

Juliette Harris, a spokeswoman for the promoter, Global Live Events , said the goal of the calls was to open a dialogue with the fan clubs and counter some false reports on fan Web sites, among them the charge that none of the ticket proceeds would go to charity and that the tickets could not be refunded. “We are not trying to persuade people or change their minds,” she said. “Our goal is to say ‘Here are the facts.’”

The opposition of the major fan club groups presents a problem for the promoter, Chris Hunt, a British filmmaker who formed Global Live Events this spring to put on the show. The fan clubs wield influence with many of the people most likely to buy tickets to the events. Mr. Hunt did not take questions from the heads of fan clubs Wednesday. Instead Global Live was represented during the calls by another executive, Andy Picheta.

The concert has divided the Jackson family. Janet Jackson and Jermaine Jackson – who have had the most successful solo careers – are boycotting the event, along with their brother Randy Jackson, because it conflicts with the trial. La Toya Jackson and three other siblings – Tito, Marlon and Jackie — are planning to attend and may perform.

The executors of Michael Jackson’s estate, which is not controlled by any of the siblings, have also raised questions about the charitable intentions of the promoters. They have made it plain the promoters may not use Mr. Jackson’s image, name or other intellectual property to sell the concert.

Wesley Noorhoff, the president of the Legendary Michael Jackson Fan Association in the Netherlands, which has 25,000 members, said the conversation with Global Live officials had not swayed him. Holding the concert during the trial and excluding the estate from the project still bothered his members, he said.

“We are still not behind the concert,” he said after the telephone call. “The biggest problems we have are the timing and not working with the Michael Jackson estate and not getting all the Jacksons onboard.”

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/tribute-concert-promoters-fail-to-sway-jackson-fan-clubs/
 
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i'm about to write a mjjc summary of the conference call
 
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Those answers came via email. The call is scheduled for tomorrow.

@Cinzia, yes, they seem to proceed one fan group after the other. Safer that way I guess.
 
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@Carine, dsl, missed your question. Not that I'm aware of.


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tajjackson3 Taj Jackson

I wish some of you could witness the BS we have to deal with as Jacksons.

Well, we get to deal with BS that comes with witnessing the Jacksons in action.

The fans have been responsible for ensuring Michael Jackson's legacy a hundred times over the last two years - in times of crisis it's been the fans who have the immediate and most critical response. The fans had the autopsy documentary put on the backburner, that pedophile book ditched from the publisher's after we exposed the people behind it, who got his name cleared in the school, the fans who spend our time and money creating websites and tirelessly TIRELESSLY going through archives and blogs and news sites and contacting dozens and dozens of people around him ourselves to find info to help clear MJ's name and help corroborate facts. We don't get ANY help from the Jacksons over this. We reach out to them, get nothing. We're the ones who went running around during the Aaron Carter mess digging through her website to find the real interview, making that info go viral, contacting Aaron and his people via twitter, writing letters, working behind the scenes - that incident taught me so much about what we can expect from the Jacksons and how important we the fans are as a community. The fans would NEVER have made the mistake of inviting Gene damned Simmons to a tribute concert, or would pose for photos with Victor Gutierrez or continue to work with Stacy Brown. The fans would never have his children pose with cheap cologne lines, of signing them up to contracts, or working with dodgy charities.

That's why most of us don't care about what they do now, we just want them to stay away from harming his legacy or his children, which of course is too much to ask for.

How can they not understand our anger when they are so oblivious to the harm they do? This is beyond anything, I mean, the situation with them is a farce, they are so absolutely blinded to the reality of how they are perceived, not just by us, but by people in their own music industry. And it's just like MJ - he cut them off and instead of reflecting on what they did, they blame drugs, they make him sound like a bad parent, and with us they just blame us for being crazy or whatever, and just go on to another crazy scheme with some other dodgy wheeler-dealer and drag MJ's name through the dirt all over again so we have to go and clear it up. They learn nothing. It's like a cartoon series and they are the crazy villains we have to outwit. It's comical at this point, beyond the point of absurdity. I don't even know what can be said or done at this point for them to realize that they cannot keep doing this and expect some kind of grateful joyous reaction from us.
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Ooouuuf Just finished my phone call...asked my 20 something questions!!!!

Hope my recording is clear since I wasn,t able to note everything!!!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Since Michael died, I understand now more than ever why he removed himself from his family.
 
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