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xthunderx2 said:
ok :hug::.....now that should tell ya something.them not reaching out to you. They are so full of shit and probably already had the clubs picked out that WILL agree with this stupid farce of a tribute. Lets wait and see what happens
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Yeah, it tells me I had nothing to fear trying cause I knew this would not happen :)
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(But just in case I was ready, had my questions, my webcam, and the speakerphone ;) )

I actually hope This Juliette will get her paycheck from GLE (if she's lucky lol) cause she's been replying to emails as quick as lightning.. Girl, I know it's your job, but you better get out of this contract right after you get your paycheck before they cancel to whole thing I tell ya :lol:
 
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Carinemjj said:
Yeah, it tells me I had nothing to fear trying cause I knew this would not happen :)
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(But just in case I was ready, had my questions, my webcam, and the speakerphone ;) )

I actually hope This Juliette will get her paycheck from GLE (if she's lucky lol) cause she's been replying to emails as quick as lightning.. Girl, I know it's your job, but you better get out of this contract right after you get your paycheck before they cancel to whole thing I tell ya :lol:
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awww...well see you did your best,,,THEY failed not you....I am NOT surprised....look how this whole thing is being run. I agree..Juliet better get out while she can...:lmao:
 
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Did any "fan conference" happen yet? Or are they just trying to blow smoke up our ***?
 
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ilmjj said:
Did any "fan conference" happen yet? Or are they just trying to blow smoke up our ***?
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I'd say second part of your post ;)

Got an email from our favorite Juliette asking me for my phone number again... just to make me believe that there are still chances I'd get a call..

Did I tell you that they never asked me for any proof that I was myself. I just told them 'You don't need any proof except for the fact that I write you from my group email address'.
 
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MariAndMichael said:
Folks, there are rumors on Twitter that the Show (Tribute Concert) would last the organization for the property MJ Estate. This gives. Someone read about it. http://whitneyworld-whitneytalk.com...orm-at-“michael-forever-the-tribute-concert”/
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Sorry but the article related to your link doesn't refer to the Estate at all, they are just saying (I don't know why?) that Whitney, Madonna, U2 and Lionel Richie are participating, which isn't true, except for the fact that Janet won't be there... so for the rest...

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Guys, just found this: Haven't even read it yet! Wanted to get it out....
Legendary MJ conference call with Global Live Events

Legendary Michael Jackson FA was just in a conference call with Global Live Events about the Forever Michael Tribute Concert which is scheduled for October 8th 2011. We spoke with Andy Picheta who is the Live Event Director. The call lasted for about 15 minutes. Because this is about Michael and his fans we are sharing the information we got from the phone call with you here.

Invitation to KISS / Gene Simmons

Picheta explained that the selection of KISS was not discussed with the Jackson family. Also they did not research it enough and were just happy to book the act since they were told Michael was very fond of them. Now, especially because of the recent comments made by Simmons, they are happy that they have been removed from the line-up. GLE hopes that this shows to the fans that they do care.

Why contact the fanclubs now?

We were contacted this week by GLE for this conference call. We asked them why now? Why not in the early stages of setting up the tribute concert? Picheta explained that they have done many concerts and tributes. Fans are always part of it but normally a small part. With Michael Jackson it’s totally different. They say they didn’t realize that. When they could do this all over again, they would definitely contact the fanclubs in the early stages.

Picheta also comments that ‘they’ thought organizing a tribute concert for Michael could only be a good thing.

Timing issue

We asked Picheta why the concert was not scheduled for June 25th or August 29th. Now, the concert is badly timed with the trial against Conrad Murray. Picheta explained that they wanted to do the show on one of these dates but that it came with practical issues like artist booking and vanue availability.

So why on October 8th? According to Picheta this is one day different from the start of Michael’s solo career. It was the release of Michael’s first solo single Got To Be There on October 7th 1971 that marked the official launch of his solo career. 2011 marks the 40th anniversary of his solo career.

Ticket pricing

According to Picheta the ticket pricing is normal for concerts this big in the UK. He named the recent Take That concert as example. Tickets of Take That varied from £ 55 upto £ 145. Ticket pricing for this concert start at £ 56. About 2/3 of the audience is able to buy tickets below £ 100.

Charities

Picheta insures that GLE has made a profit share agreement with two charities; Aids LA and the Prince’s Trust. The Prince’s Trust because Michael did a benefit concert for that charity in 1988. They get a share of the profit of ticket sales and TV broadcasting. Picheta insures us that both charities are happy with the agreement.

Guaranteed performances

Picheta explained that fans are protected by the UK law. For example. If someone expects to see Ne-Yo and he wasn’t there they can get a full refund of their ticket. The UK law is very clear about this and protects consumers for this.

Estate of Michael Jackson

The administrators of the Estate of Michael Jackson are handpicked by Michael himself. It is very important for LMJ that the Estate is involved in a tribute of global size. We asked Picheta why they are not working with the Estate. According to Picheta GLE respects the Estate, the work they do and the copyrights they have. He also is clear about the fact that in the UK it is allowed to perform songs from any artist you want as long as you pay for the use of them. There is an organization that takes 2,5 % of the ticket price to make sure this is done.

Picheta says they feel they are not working against the Estate but alongside the Estate. He also points out that 13 Jackson family members will be either attending or performing at the show.

He also referred to the diplomatic response of Janet Jackson who was invited to perform too. Janet told GLE that “it is not right for her at this time”.

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The information above is honest and factual. As usual LMJ wants to protect Michael’s legacy above all. It is our duty to inform his fans with facts so you can decide for yourselves. Please leave a comment to let us know how you feel about the Tribute Concert now.

source: LMJ
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http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=5911#more-5911
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

How the f can they say that dropping kiss shows they do care, firstly they were not dropped straight away and secondly GL hav never apologised for the distress it caused.

Can they 'feel' all they like but are they in contact with the estate?

So they are going to be paying to use Michael's music?
 
"Picheta explained that they wanted to do the show on one of these dates but that it came with practical issues like artist booking and vanue availability" : BS if the show had been planned properly in advance. They didnt need to have it this year.

"They get a share of the profit of ticket sales" : contradictory with what they said in the beginning

"According to Picheta the ticket pricing is normal for concerts this big in the UK" : this big? This long you mean. Otherwise a couple of known artists and UK X factor contestants.

"Picheta explained that fans are protected by the UK law. For example. If someone expects to see Ne-Yo and he wasn’t there they can get a full refund of their ticket. The UK law is very clear about this and protects consumers for this" : totally contradicts the terms and condictions saying if 50% of the line up dont show up, there's no refund

"He also points out that 13 Jackson family members will be either attending or performing at the show" : wow. So the whole family will benefit from this, huh?


What about the children's fund?
What about the children being in the terms and conditions?
What about the several changes in the description of the event?
What about the involvement of Latoya and JA-Tail?
Why all the lies about how and when the concert was set up?
What about the lack of information of the FB page, and the deletion of questions & comments?
Why are the performers paid if it's a tribute?
Where are is the "galaxy of international stars"?
 
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I'm working my way through this fount of (mis) information but right off the bat this:
Picheta explained that the selection of KISS was not discussed with the Jackson family. Also they did not research it enough and were just happy to book the act since they were told Michael was very fond of them. Now, especially because of the recent comments made by Simmons, they are happy that they have been removed from the line-up. GLE hopes that this shows to the fans that they do care.
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Now does this make any sense? They didn't talk to the family, they didn't research it 'enough' (read 'at all') but they were 'told' Michael was blah, blah. So who told them? Gene Simmons?? If GLE had really cared, they would have done their homework in the first place and avoided this mess. So who could have told them? Really. Someone who wanted to make a mockery of the tribute? Or give KISS some free publicity? Now I really want to know. Cause if it wasn't the family, then who???

I have a feeling that this 'conference call' is going to backfire on GLE big time. I wish that LMJ who posted it, many thanks to them, had said if any other groups were in on this call. Doesn't seem like it to me...

It raises more questions than they could ever answer.
 
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Uk law re neyo is rubbish. They should read their own terms and conditions. And tmk there was nothing on at the stadium around mjs birthday and june.there was a rugby game around the 20th august on. There was nothing stopping them from picking another date.and no money from tiks goes to charity thats what gle said hence the donation.
 
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cinzia said:
I'm working my way through this fount of (mis) information but right off the bat this:


Now does this make any sense? They didn't talk to the family, they didn't research it 'enough' (read 'at all') but they were 'told' Michael was blah, blah. So who told them? Gene Simmons?? If GLE had really cared, they would have done their homework in the first place and avoided this mess. So who could have told them? Really. Someone who wanted to make a mockery of the tribute? Or give KISS some free publicity? Now I really want to know. Cause if it wasn't the family, then who???

I have a feeling that this 'conference call' is going to backfire on GLE big time. I wish that LMJ who posted it, many thanks to them, had said if any other groups were in on this call. Doesn't seem like it to me...

It raises more questions than they could ever answer.
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And that still doesn't answer WHY Kiss said yes to this tribute on their own side (well money.. but hey) and who asked who, did Kiss asked to be in the tribute (eeewwwww) or did 'I have no idea' GLEasked them to be in the tribute (and if so, what's the link their brain made between Kiss and Michael Jackson... )

I thought it was a CONFERENCE call like, everybody on the phone line at the same time so they can hear which other questions has been asked.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I would just like to point out that a Tribute concert to an artist doesnt mean the performers are not paid.

It is usually benefit concerts like farm Aid etc where performers donate thier performances
You best believe if The Estate puts on any tributes shows etc the artist will be paid for thier work
so that is really a none issue .. the rest of the ISh is
 
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Will the performers from the Jackson family be paid too?

I believed in a charity concert, like it was announced, ther performers were not paid and all the money from the tiks (all expenses paid for of course) was going to the charities? They used that aspect a lot in the beginning.
 
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Gosh Bunch of bull shit.
How hard to type in Michael Jackson and Kiss then hit search on google?????
They knew MJ liked Kiss (which I believe most of fans didn't know and have some doubt) but they can't find out what Gene Simmon said??? This is just crap and ridiculous. The whole thing totally not make any sense at all.
and they said J family know nothing about it. Does that mean J family just saw $$$$$$$ and don't bother to care how they organize a tribute. Oh, great, it just proves again no one in the Jackson family bother to put a right tribute to their family member. The only thing they care is MONEY. I am sorry, but their answer just made J family look even worse.
 
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Ben, the Jackson family are probably being paid the simply appear.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Quote from the New York Times article:
Mr. Hunt said he had initially chosen the October date because the trial had been scheduled earlier, but when it was delayed until the fall, he could not change the date without incurring a financial loss.

Ultimately the bottom line for this concert is the financial bottom line....they cannot afford to move it, so I expect they cannot afford to cancel it either, hence they are stuck with it .
There is a hint of 'blaming the fans' in the call transcript, but really what they didn't factor in was the Estate....and they cannot explain how any tribute which cannot mention its' protagonist's full name or show his image etc etc would be accepted by any right-minded fans ...of any performer.

Not even getting into the issue of KISS, or the children in terms and conditions....there is so much wrong but they cannot right it now....so we will just have to see what they decide to do next....and what the Estate do as a result.
 
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I hear that artist are being paid 50K from a couple of my sources. I'll try to confirm from a couple more people.

You guys gotta know the american artists are being paid. I mean seriously think about it... Christina, Ne-Yo and Cee Lo will not pay for their transport, hotel, band, etc... That is all paid and then they will charge an appearance fee.
 
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So, they still won't say how much of the profit is going to charity? Why would they want to keep this a secret? Companies are usually proud to publicize the amount of money they donate. Until they release details, I can only assume that, if they do really donate anythng, it will be a small amount.

Also, they claimed that they've produced other tribute concerts? When did these concerts happen, and who were they for?
 
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diana79 said:
So, they still won't say how much of the profit is going to charity? Why would they want to keep this a secret? Companies are usually proud to publicize the amount of money they donate. Until they release details, I can only assume that, if they do really donate anythng, it will be a small amount.

Also, they claimed that they've produced other tribute concerts? When did these concerts happen, and who were they for?
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Edit: I found two videos......

http://www.lovefilm.com/browse/contributor/102532/Andy-Picheta.html
Some Enchanted Evening - Richard Rogers ... on DVD
Starring: Judi Dench, Maureen Lipman, Ruthie Henshall
Director: Andy PichetaCertificate:
This star-studded gala celebrates the centenary of the birth of legendary Broadway composer Richard Rodgers. the performance at London's Theatre Royal, Drury Lane includes songs, dance, staged numbers and anecdotes featuring leading stars from both Broadway and London's West End

http://www.amazon.ca/Andrew-Lloyd-Webber-Albert-Celebration/dp/B00004D07B
and this: Andrew Lloyd Webber: The Royal Albert Hall Celebration Tina Arena (Actor), Michael Ball (Actor), David Mallet (Director) | Format: VHS Tape
Actors: Tina Arena, Michael Ball, Antonio Banderas, Keith Duffy, Stephen Gately
Directors: David Mallet
Producers: Andy Picheta, Anthony Chapman, Anu Krishnan, David Horn, David McCarthy


http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/andy-picheta/31/b97/4b6
Bio
.ANDY PICHETA is a multi-camera, live event on film and TV specialist. He has filmed theatrical musicals, plays and gala concerts including CATS, OKLAHOMA!, ELAINE STRITCH, JOSEPH and the AMAZING TECHNICOLOUR DREAMCOAT, LORD OF THE DANCE, KIRI TE KANAWA, MICHAEL BALL, RSC PRODUCTIONS,GALA SPECIALS, STADIUM FESTIVALS and many more. His concert credits include IRON MAIDEN, BON JOVI, AC/DC, METALLICA, MADONNA, INXS, PRINCE, U2 and many others. .
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Of course the artists are paid, you imagine Kiss coming for a MJ tribute without a paycheck?
And of course the Jacksons are gonna be paid to, that's the reason why this tribute exists, to bring money to katherine's other children and grandchildren.

In a previous article they also said the checks for the charities would be presented during the concert... let's see :coffee:
 
myosotis said:
Quote from the New York Times article:Mr. Hunt said he had initially chosen the October date because the trial had been scheduled earlier, but when it was delayed until the fall, he could not change the date without incurring a financial loss. Ultimately the bottom line for this concert is the financial bottom line....they cannot afford to move it, so I expect they cannot afford to cancel it either, hence they are stuck with it . There is a hint of 'blaming the fans' in the call transcript, but really what they didn't factor in was the Estate....and they cannot explain how any tribute which cannot mention its' protagonist's full name or show his image etc etc would be accepted by any right-minded fans ...of any performer.Not even getting into the issue of KISS, or the children in terms and conditions....there is so much wrong but they cannot right it now....so we will just have to see what they decide to do next....and what the Estate do as a result.
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i doubt they booked the venue in may when the trial was postponed.if they did it makes them look even worse as they couldnt organise performers in all that time.and i doubt the would have to pay out.u arent cancelling just moving the date
 
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Memefan said:
Can we all agree...NO ONE should take part in this Conference Call unless the estate is formally invited to take part?

I am sick of these people making a mockery of MJ and his legacy.

@CeeLoGreen
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^^^Thank you. Gaz had the right idea, but it seems some are excited to be a part of this, even though the estate is not involved.
 
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qbee said:
I would just like to point out that a Tribute concert to an artist doesnt mean the performers are not paid.

It is usually benefit concerts like farm Aid etc where performers donate thier performances
You best believe if The Estate puts on any tributes shows etc the artist will be paid for thier work
so that is really a none issue .. the rest of the ISh is
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Agree with you. The fact that the performers are paid is not an issue.

Ben said:
Will the performers from the Jackson family be paid too?

I believed in a charity concert, like it was announced, ther performers were not paid and all the money from the tiks (all expenses paid for of course) was going to the charities? They used that aspect a lot in the beginning.
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Well, I don't think all the performers have to volunteer their works in order for the concert to be called a charity concert. I guess if all the proceeds from ticket sales and other merchandizing agreements after costs and expenses are to be donated to charities, the concert is still a charity concert in my book.

However, I definitely share the Estate's concerns about the organizers of this concert "piggybacking Michael's good name and charity". The fact that registrants are asked to pledge donations on top of paying for tickets is not a good sign.
 
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I like and support Michael's family but something seems fishy to me about this whole thing. Bottom line: they could re-schedule this concert if they really wanted to. Sure they would lose money but how much money do they need to make? A postponed concert would still bring in loads of money and probably more with the fan's behind it. And there's no way the Kiss mistake should have been made. They evidently didn't respect Michael enough to do their homework on his life and career. I have never read anywhere that he was a fan of Kiss, and I've read everything Michael related for years. Michael's official solo career started in '79 with the release of "Off the Wall", not when they are saying---they are trying to make this fit w/their poor planning. None of the true fans are wanting to celebrate anything until the trial is over and there is justice for Michael, and nothing will change their minds on this. And is it true Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe are somehow involved with this concert, or Global Live Events??
 
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This:

"The administrators of the Estate of Michael Jackson are handpicked by Michael himself. It is very important for LMJ that the Estate is involved in a tribute of global size. We asked Picheta why they are not working with the Estate. According to Picheta GLE respects the Estate, the work they do and the copyrights they have. He also is clear about the fact that in the UK it is allowed to perform songs from any artist you want as long as you pay for the use of them. There is an organization that takes 2,5 % of the ticket price to make sure this is done.

Picheta says they feel they are not working against the Estate but alongside the Estate. He also points out that 13 Jackson family members will be either attending or performing at the show."
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Working "alongside the estate" because they are working with Jackson family members? Uhm, NO! The only Jackson family members who actually benefit from the Estate are Katherine, with a stipend, and the children, whose money it really IS. I can see no way this is "working alongside the estate." All other Jacksons were left OUT of the will, intentionally. It is NOT "the Jackson family estate." That money belongs to the CHILDREN, only. Are we supposed to be somehow IMPRESSED that "thirteen Jackson family members will be there?" No. Not impressed. Quite the opposite, and the purpose of this "tribute" becomes ever-clearer.

I imagine that Jackson family members will be PAID quite a bit for this, being so numerous. :ph34r: Wonder if they are paid to just show up, too, for those not actually performing? I'll just BET they are!

At a legitimate charity event, there should be transparency about how much (i.e. percentage) the charities are actually getting. That would help determine whether or not a fan thought it was worthwhile to buy a ticket.

This answers NOTHING, and Gaz is quite right to continue to have major CONCERNS about this event.
 
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SandyFromHouston said:
I like and support Michael's family but something seems fishy to me about this whole thing. Bottom line: they could re-schedule this concert if they really wanted to. Sure they would lose money but how much money do they need to make? A postponed concert would still bring in loads of money and probably more with the fan's behind it. And there's no way the Kiss mistake should have been made. They evidently didn't respect Michael enough to do their homework on his life and career. I have never read anywhere that he was a fan of Kiss, and I've read everything Michael related for years. Michael's official solo career started in '79 with the release of "Off the Wall", not when they are saying---they are trying to make this fit w/their poor planning. None of the true fans are wanting to celebrate anything until the trial is over and there is justice for Michael, and nothing will change their minds on this. And is it true Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe are somehow involved with this concert, or Global Live Events??
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I'm afraid I'm not sure that these organisers could...I am not sure anyone would buy tickets (who hasn't already) even if it was re-scheduled...they have offended/ insulted / upset too many people.........
(I think they will just take whatever money they can from this now, and ....run.)

Edit: I'd love to know where the money is coming from to pay the performers......surely ticket sales can't be so successful....?

I guess they are still (literally) banking on proceeds from webcasts / video sales....but if the Estate steps in to halt this, they could be left holding a lot of bills. (and I don't mean the dollar variety)
 
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SandyFromHouston said:
I like and support Michael's family but something seems fishy to me about this whole thing. Bottom line: they could re-schedule this concert if they really wanted to. Sure they would lose money but how much money do they need to make? A postponed concert would still bring in loads of money and probably more with the fan's behind it. And there's no way the Kiss mistake should have been made. They evidently didn't respect Michael enough to do their homework on his life and career. I have never read anywhere that he was a fan of Kiss, and I've read everything Michael related for years. Michael's official solo career started in '79 with the release of "Off the Wall", not when they are saying---they are trying to make this fit w/their poor planning. None of the true fans are wanting to celebrate anything until the trial is over and there is justice for Michael, and nothing will change their minds on this. And is it true Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe are somehow involved with this concert, or Global Live Events??
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Michael's official solo career started when Got To Be There was released. That's why he celebrated 30 years as a solo artist in 2001.
 
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