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TheChosenOne said:
(greatest concert EVER) even more farcical and offensive.
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Ha Ha, I know it is not nice to laugh, but that phrase has become very comical. Katherine went to shows, so we cannot say that she has no experience in what something of quality looks like. I know she has not been involved in the process, creation, and production of great artistic events, so she should not have been the spokes person for this variety concert. I think she just pulled that phrase out of her head.
 
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The Jacksons don't think before they talk or act. They act on impulse and greed.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
The estate need to go after katherine regardless.thats why they are all hiding behind her cause they know the estate wont do anything.its time they did or this will only stop when katherine dies
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I wish i could agree but unfortunately i don't think it will end with KJ's death.

The MJ estate is like a tightly defended citadel which the jacksons are trying to attack in a variety of ways. First they put about on his death that he was a drug addict in his last yrs so any new will would be suspect (they weren't to know that his last will was 02). Then they attacked this will's validity and smear the executors, this failed in the courts. Next they tried to get an increase in the monthly allowance for KJ and ppb, only partly successful, it still wasn't enough. They then are trying various schemes to get round the estate to get to use MJ's name and access to his fanbase of which this tribute is just the latest example.
The heal the world affair I thought was just an attempt to get hold of MJ trademarks and irk the estate, but then the real purpose emerged. The jacksons were trying to get access to the 20% charity part of MJ's will.

This is all in the last 2 years!!

IN the next few years, 3 new beneficiaries are going to emerge with access (albeit gradual and staged) to MJ's millions, his children. I don't know how anyone can doubt for a single second that the jacksons, prob even now, are planning on how to use this to their advantage. Pitting the children against the executors (one of whom their aunt claims is involved in the death of their father), making sure that they know they are Jacksons first and can trust only them, and being made aware that their father's success was solely down to his family. I know they're bright kids, but they are just children and will clearly be influenced by those around them. It's very sad.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
I don't know how anyone can doubt for a single second that the jacksons, prob even now, are planning on how to use this to their advantage. Pitting the children against the executors (one of whom their aunt claims is involved in the death of their father), making sure that they know they are Jacksons first and can trust only them, and being made aware that their father's success was solely down to his family. I know they're bright kids, but they are just children and will clearly be influenced by those around them. It's very sad.
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That's exactly what I think, and there's no doubt in my mind they have already started working on them. The famous "family first" they've been trying on Michael for decades. I'm extremely worried about the people around them, especially La Tonta.
 
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Unfortunately i'm predicting by the end of the decade prince in deals with Leonard rowe and paris signed on with Jatail managment. At this stage it really looks an inevitability.
 
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I cannot believe that this thing is still moving forward. I has to be ticket sales from the other artists that is giving this thing steam...because I cannot believe that there are that many MJ fans supporting this. It is obvious that this thing is not going to die..so the Jacksons have finally figured out a way to use Michael anyway.....how disgusting is this. Also has this comapy answered all the questions from the estate yet...about the charity profits? OR do they think that they dont need to and that Branca is just gonna go away.
 
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Bonnie what u say is a horrendous.but you are right
 
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Every time I see La Tonta near those kids, I have an image of Lindsay Lohan popping up in my head. I so hope we are wrong, and they will be fine. The good thing is they are very close to each other, so they wont end up alone if they realize what most of their family is after. I'm so worried. :(

Ok, no I'm not worried, I'm scared out of my mind for those 3 kids.
 
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So in other words we continue to see these sorts of tributes in the years too come. One thing l dont grasp as someone mentioned that Jackie works with the estate but yet has ways to undermine the estate. They need to be stopped its like when one drives on red light and gets pass from the police. The next time they are given a speed ticket. What a dissapointment how the jacksons have behaved.
 
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Ben said:
Every time I see La Tonta near those kids, I have an image of Lindsay Lohan popping up in my head. I so hope we are wrong, and they will be fine. The good thing is they are very close to each other, so they wont end up alone if they realize what most of their family is after. I'm so worried. :(

Ok, no I'm not worried, I'm scared out of my mind for those 3 kids.
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Same here. Latoya is certainly not a good influence on teenagers and kids.
Oh btw they're being paraded around in Gary IN, on Michael's birthday. There's already pics of them with their loving grandparents Joe and Katie
 
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Usualy I would not think that was such a bad thing. But just knowing what the Jacksons are capable of it makes me cringe ESP knowing Joe is around. The only good thing about it is I know and everyone here knows everything the Jacksons touch turns to crap. That any business deal they try to pull off will turn into a steaming pile of crap
 
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That may be the only time I wouldnt mind them to make a public appearance, because it's their dad's birthday. Idk. It shocks me much less than seeing them used for the fake HTWF or the art donation to the hospital. But I get your feeling Twinklee. It's ONE MORE TIME. And it's never genuine.
 
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twinklEE said:
katherine is shamelessly abusing this position of hers (to be able to do whatever she wants). I don't think I've ever seen an 82 year old be as greedy as Katherine in my entire life. NEVER.
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I agree with you. I can't stand Katherine, she is no good just like the rest! yuck!!
 
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marebear said:
I think if this was a tribute that was supported by the estate and fans, better timing and better organized it would have sold out just like that.
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When an official tribute comes along which of course we all know will be managed by Michael's estate, the fans will be united and be behind it 100%. Like you say, it will sell out in a matter of minutes, like any other official Michael Jackson concert.
 
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right now i just hope that the kids will stick to what michael taught them and will investigate thoroughly into his life before they do any business etc so they will see he that he seperated family and business. I shall remain optimistic.
 
twinklEE said:
Oh btw they're being paraded around in Gary IN, on Michael's birthday. There's already pics of them with their loving grandparents Joe and Katie
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Wow I can't believe these 2. There are pictures of them with their grandchildren?!






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twinklEE said:
Oh btw they're being paraded around in Gary IN, on Michael's birthday. There's already pics of them with their loving grandparents Joe and Katie
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Just saw them. Paris and Blanet are signing autographs and meeting with fans together with Prince. Not sure if they are signing autographs for their dad's fans or their own fans seeing these kids have a huge fanbase/fansites already without really doing anything but being Michael Jackson's kids. As usual Blanket looks uncomfortable while Paris is basking in delight with all the cameras and attention towards her and Prince is just trying to get through it all with his head phones on and uncomfortable smile. Just another exploitation day for the Jackson kids. I assume since the pictures are official press pictures and not pap or personal pictures, it's okay to post. If not the mod's can erase it.

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Prince and Blanket with Joseph Jackson at the event.

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Please let us stay on topic for this thread!
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
Unfortunately i'm predicting by the end of the decade prince in deals with Leonard rowe and paris signed on with Jatail managment. At this stage it really looks an inevitability.
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It is sad to say but you have something there. Familial influence and pressure is very important in shaping people's behavior and development. From the first time I saw grandma drag those children to Oprah, I made myself understand that these children may begin to do anything in their later years that I may feel is not loyal to Michael, so I began to emotionally distance myself from them. In that way, I will not become disappointed by their behaviors.

I still will support them in reference to Michael related endeavors, but my priority is first Michael's name and legacy. I am careful not to replace the interest I have in Michael on to the children. These children, to me, are expected to do anything with the influence of La Tonta and the uncles backing them. They may come a day when Paris will say something off putting in reference to Michael. If the family say Michael was a DA, Paris my remember some time when Michael seemed shaky on the legs when she was about 9 years and say to herself, maybe they are right. She is not a doctor. The thing is the children need the family to constantly refute the negative comments outsiders might say, but I am not sure if the family is doing that, and anyway, the family say the same negative things. Who are the children going to believe eventually? It will be the loving family that keeps them safe and who they can tweet all the time because they are still young and their character is still being formed and molded.

So, I would suggest to everyone to support the children in Michael related projects, and if they can, don't let people exploit them to make money for Michael. Other than that, do not put too much expectations on them because they are not Michael, and we do not know what they will do in the future. They will be what they will be.
 
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Ben said:
That may be the only time I wouldnt mind them to make a public appearance, because it's their dad's birthday. Idk. It shocks me much less than seeing them used for the fake HTWF or the art donation to the hospital. But I get your feeling Twinklee. It's ONE MORE TIME. And it's never genuine.
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That is the thing that infuriates me the most. The kids may think they are doing their dad proud...but the grown ups have ulterior motives.
 
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^^Yes the kids hearts are always in the right place when grandma drag them to these events.
How are the ticket sales going guys. Remember Hunt predict a positive outlook for over the weekend.
 
Petrarose said:
It is sad to say but you have something there. Familial influence and pressure is very important in shaping people's behavior and development. From the first time I saw grandma drag those children to Oprah, I made myself understand that these children may begin to do anything in their later years that I may feel is not loyal to Michael, so I began to emotionally distance myself from them. In that way, I will not become disappointed by their behaviors.I still will support them in reference to Michael related endeavors, but my priority is first Michael's name and legacy. I am careful not to replace the interest I have in Michael on to the children. These children, to me, are expected to do anything with the influence of La Tonta and the uncles backing them. They may come a day when Paris will say something off putting in reference to Michael. If the family say Michael was a DA, Paris my remember some time when Michael seemed shaky on the legs when she was about 9 years and say to herself, maybe they are right. She is not a doctor. The thing is the children need the family to constantly refute the negative comments outsiders might say, but I am not sure if the family is doing that, and anyway, the family say the same negative things. Who are the children going to believe eventually? It will be the loving family that keeps them safe and who they can tweet all the time because they are still young and their character is still being formed and molded.So, I would suggest to everyone to support the children in Michael related projects, and if they can, don't let people exploit them to make money for Michael. Other than that, do not put too much expectations on them because they are not Michael, and we do not know what they will do in the future. They will be what they will be.
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sad but true
 
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I agree with Petrarose re-the kids, very sadly. Thats why I'm so worried. :(


Anyway, TheChosenOne is right, we should get back on topic!

Nothing new about the concert. I read on the FB page HMV was selling tickets. In case Elusive was still interested. :)
 
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Yeah i saw the advertisement for hmv yesterday when having a look around to see if any other major outlets were selling the tiks.couldnt see anymore such as see tickets site selling them
 
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I can't believe that reputable places have tried to sell those tickets!!! Well I guess money is money no matter how you get it.
 
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mjzfille said:
So in other words we continue to see these sorts of tributes in the years too come. One thing l dont grasp as someone mentioned that Jackie works with the estate but yet has ways to undermine the estate. They need to be stopped its like when one drives on red light and gets pass from the police. The next time they are given a speed ticket. What a dissapointment how the jacksons have behaved.
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Do you mean this one^^. I see your point. As long as it is lucrative for the family members to use Michael, he will be used, because they have not encountered a force that has dealt with them in a forceful manner, leading to legal action. Hence, they will always continue to exploit Michael for their own gains. Part of the reason is that they could always emotionally blackmail Michael in the past, for him to dish out funds. Sometimes, they used the love of his mother to get monetary gains out of him. Now he is gone, and they cannot go to the Estate for money in the same way they could go to Michael. The result is that they will now seek other avenues to generate money. Notice these activities to bring in money does not include endeavors where they have to do heavy work, sweat, or struggle. They are always activities where others have to work, be it other artists as in the fake tribute, or the fans, his children, and of course Michael's name. This behavior is accepted by them because as was said before, it worked before. They are used to using Michael for financial gain. You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. So as long as there are people to go into shady deals with them, they will do so, because they do not see a consequence that will scare their pants off.

What estate will take an 80 year old to court? I do not even want them to do that, even though we know that she is put in the front to shield the dishonesty in these events. As for Jackie working both sides? He has to. When it suits him he will work with the Estate, but when "the family" calls he will be there, because he is loyal to family and possibly will earn more working with them. He will work with the family because they all want to stress a united Jackson front and want people to remember that it was because of them that Michael is famous today. They want it to be that every time someone thinks of Michael they will also think of the Jackson 5. They are living on this past glory to generate deals and cash.
 
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Please, please tell me this isn't true:

Michael Jackson Tribute Concert's Organizers, Fans and Family in Dispute

"Staging the concert during his manslaughter trial isn't the right time," Gary Taylor, owner of the 80,000-member Jackson fan club MJJ Community, tells Billboard.com. "The fans are going to hear and see things that will be very hard to handle emotionally. The last thing they want to do is celebrate tribute-style to MJ. We're not saying to cancel it completely, but we will not support this concert one bit unless it's moved outside of the Murray trial. Otherwise, the concert will just have a load of Christina Aguilera and Cee-Lo fans."

Taylor's group recently spearheaded an open letter speaking out against the concert signed by 35 Jackson fan clubs around the world.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-jackson-tribute-concerts-organizers-228548

"We're not saying to cancel it completely, but we will not support this concert one bit unless it's moved outside of the Murray trial."

Will we support concerts from the Jacksons if they're moved after the trial? Hell, i won't.
The Jacksons only want to make money out of the memory, hard work, and suffering of Michael. Does this fan club support the Jacksons? Tell me it's not true, please.

And the picture looks like the Jacksons are there with Michael. It's a sacrilege!!!

Sorry, I don't know how to post the picture. And why is it that I don't have the option to bold letters amd use colors?
 
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"I agree with you. I can't stand Katherine, she is no good just like the rest! yuck!!"

Tricia, and Michael didn't trust her.
 
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I am so sorry for this but, was she there first for Michael in 1993? NO! Liz Taylor was. His own mother was not there but his friend was. It took 3 to 4 days for her to get to him,money wouldn't exactly be a problem. And, she was being rude about him on Oprah, saying his nose looked like a 'tooth pick'!! His own mother. She may have brought him into this world which I am extremely grateful for, but she didn't give a shit about him. Not as much as she could have. She is making money off of her son's death, how could you explain that? Sorry, I really am,just I really can't stand her or the family.
 
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