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think it was a soundbite on the news.walked into haidressers and it was on
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p
I'm talking about the single
th:. The album was released in early 72. :rofl:
I'm talking about the single
th:. The album was released in early 72. :rofl:Ben
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Yeah, but in the press conf, they were talking abt the single. :rofl:
Yeah, but in the press conf, they were talking abt the single. :rofl:
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Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but :rofl:
Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but :rofl:
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No Jermaine is against the fake tribute.
No Jermaine is against the fake tribute.
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Oh really, and how long did it take them to come up with that idea. I thought the original reason was that they wanted to give Katherine and family a reprieve from the stress of the trial? They have a few more weeks to come up with another idea. Let's see what they will say later.
Oh really, and how long did it take them to come up with that idea. I thought the original reason was that they wanted to give Katherine and family a reprieve from the stress of the trial? They have a few more weeks to come up with another idea. Let's see what they will say later.
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That is precisely right!
That is true, but they act this way, not because they are black, but because they are Jacksons.
I had to go back through this thread just so I could find this comment and speak on it. Your comment is so grossly unfounded that I am having a hard time keeping composure and not offend as I type so please forgive me if this post is not exactly PC. If you think white familes do not throw their family members under the bus or speak against their family members, then you are extremely ill informed. Why don't you read about what Madonna's brother said about her. Read about what Julia Robert's brother, Eric said about her. Read about what Drew has said about her family. The act of speaking against your family members has had an extremely long history regardless of the race of families involved. -_-
The Jacksons are not the first black family to come from meager beginnings and make their mark highly in the world. In fact, this is the beginning of almost all black families that have made their mark, especially in the US. There have been MANY black families who have come into money and made their mark and who have chosen to remain a strong family unit.
How the Jacksons are acting is not indicative of race, but indicative of what happens when people value money over their family. When greed and avarice come to the fore and collide with mismanagement, a lack of love, and jealously. This is a story all too common for people of all races who have money whether they come from humble beginnings or not. Stop dimishing this to a "black and white" thing. I am black as well and get so sick and tired of people falsely lifting up others in an attempt to explain how some black person is deficient. That is what I find annoying and what pisses me off. Your whole premise is wrong from the get go, of course the conclusion is going to be faulty as well. :mat::mat::angry:
That is precisely right!
That is true, but they act this way, not because they are black, but because they are Jacksons.
I had to go back through this thread just so I could find this comment and speak on it. Your comment is so grossly unfounded that I am having a hard time keeping composure and not offend as I type so please forgive me if this post is not exactly PC.
If you think white familes do not throw their family members under the bus or speak against their family members, then you are extremely ill informed. Why don't you read about what Madonna's brother said about her. Read about what Julia Robert's brother, Eric said about her. Read about what Drew has said about her family. The act of speaking against your family members has had an extremely long history regardless of the race of families involved. -_-The Jacksons are not the first black family to come from meager beginnings and make their mark highly in the world. In fact, this is the beginning of almost all black families that have made their mark, especially in the US. There have been MANY black families who have come into money and made their mark and who have chosen to remain a strong family unit.
How the Jacksons are acting is not indicative of race, but indicative of what happens when people value money over their family. When greed and avarice come to the fore and collide with mismanagement, a lack of love, and jealously. This is a story all too common for people of all races who have money whether they come from humble beginnings or not. Stop dimishing this to a "black and white" thing. I am black as well and get so sick and tired of people falsely lifting up others in an attempt to explain how some black person is deficient. That is what I find annoying and what pisses me off. Your whole premise is wrong from the get go, of course the conclusion is going to be faulty as well. :mat::mat::angry:
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GINVIV I am so glad you addressed that issue in your last post. I saw the comments and decided it was best to move right along and ignore it, because commenting might bring the thread way off base. However, thanks for expressing my views intelligently.
GINVIV I am so glad you addressed that issue in your last post. I saw the comments and decided it was best to move right along and ignore it, because commenting might bring the thread way off base. However, thanks for expressing my views intelligently.
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I know this would give him more attention to him but I wish someone would tell Gene Simmons off. I know it's childish and probably would not help but I can't stand people who talk about Michael like that anymore. Enough already and they are ignorant and don't look at the facts. No one calls him out on him wanting to do the tribute. I wish people would leave Michael alone. His own family doesn't help him either and just want what they want.
I know this would give him more attention to him but I wish someone would tell Gene Simmons off. I know it's childish and probably would not help but I can't stand people who talk about Michael like that anymore. Enough already and they are ignorant and don't look at the facts. No one calls him out on him wanting to do the tribute. I wish people would leave Michael alone. His own family doesn't help him either and just want what they want.
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Well I humbly disagree with your post.
I know this is not limited to just black people. If you actually read my second post in which I responded to Petrarose I clearly said that white people do it too, but since there is a much smaller pool of successful black people compare to whites, what the Jacksons do stands out much more. As I said my second post, which you clearly didn't read, I said that the Jacksons are the biggest and most well known black family in the world. So, what they do reflects more on how people view black people and what they are doing is stereotypical of what most people think black people with money and power do. Namely, they screw their investments, do very tacky things to make a buck, and sell out their own if it means getting ahead. It may not be fair to the Jacksons, but that simply the way it is.
Madonna's brother may had said and done some shady things, but her family stood by her and defended her. The same with Elvis' family. There were members who threw him under the bus as well and wrote books, they weren't supported by the rest of the family. In fact, they were all but thrown out for speaking ill of them to the public. With the Jacksons, who in that family is sticking up for Michael? Tell me who is honestly going up to the public and telling that family is enough is enough? Who is telling them that they can't do this to their father, brother, and son? Forget private. These fools have people like Oxman, Rowe, Kaya, and others dragging Michael's name on the public stage and no one has said a damn thing. No, it's more important to twitter about supposedly fake songs for a week, about addiction no one can support, reviving their long dead music careers, the list goes on. How about Gene? Who in that family has blasted him for what he had said? No one, not even his mother who went on national TV and told the world how much Michael loved KISS.
I also don't care how you say I shouldn't be offended. For the record I am from Gary, IN myself along with my family. My dad grew up when the Jacksons were still doing nightclubs here and knew Jackie in passing because they went to the same school. For the decades the family were worship as heroes here, not just Michael. There was nothing they could do wrong and were seen as the model that we all should reach for. My dad knew otherwise. He told me when I was young that the Jacksons as a whole were a bunch of greedy, self-center people who used Michael's talent to reach for the top and then continue to use Michael as through his adult life. He even predicted everything that was going to happen after Michael had died.
I love my dad, but I honestly didn't really believe him. I thought despite all the problems and Michael's abusive father that at the end of the day they would stick by Michael and defend him. I thought my beliefs were justify when they came and supported him during the trial, none withstanding Rebbie's comments to MSNBC and her connection to Stacy Brown. Do you know how foolish and stupid I feel now to have everything my dad said come to pass and I chose not to believe what was clear to see from the start.
I am not demising this a a black or white thing, but just saying how things will be view by not just white people, but black people as well. You have the biggest black person in the world not being destroy by the media, but by the hands of his own family and it come across as typical.
That is precisely right!
That is true, but they act this way, not because they are black, but because they are Jacksons.
I had to go back through this thread just so I could find this comment and speak on it. Your comment is so grossly unfounded that I am having a hard time keeping composure and not offend as I type so please forgive me if this post is not exactly PC.
The Jacksons are not the first black family to come from meager beginnings and make their mark highly in the world. In fact, this is the beginning of almost all black families that have made their mark, especially in the US. There have been MANY black families who have come into money and made their mark and who have chosen to remain a strong family unit.
How the Jacksons are acting is not indicative of race, but indicative of what happens when people value money over their family. When greed and avarice come to the fore and collide with mismanagement, a lack of love, and jealously. This is a story all too common for people of all races who have money whether they come from humble beginnings or not. Stop dimishing this to a "black and white" thing. I am black as well and get so sick and tired of people falsely lifting up others in an attempt to explain how some black person is deficient. That is what I find annoying and what pisses me off. Your whole premise is wrong from the get go, of course the conclusion is going to be faulty as well. :mat::mat::angry:
Well I humbly disagree with your post.
I know this is not limited to just black people. If you actually read my second post in which I responded to Petrarose I clearly said that white people do it too, but since there is a much smaller pool of successful black people compare to whites, what the Jacksons do stands out much more. As I said my second post, which you clearly didn't read, I said that the Jacksons are the biggest and most well known black family in the world. So, what they do reflects more on how people view black people and what they are doing is stereotypical of what most people think black people with money and power do. Namely, they screw their investments, do very tacky things to make a buck, and sell out their own if it means getting ahead. It may not be fair to the Jacksons, but that simply the way it is.
Madonna's brother may had said and done some shady things, but her family stood by her and defended her. The same with Elvis' family. There were members who threw him under the bus as well and wrote books, they weren't supported by the rest of the family. In fact, they were all but thrown out for speaking ill of them to the public. With the Jacksons, who in that family is sticking up for Michael? Tell me who is honestly going up to the public and telling that family is enough is enough? Who is telling them that they can't do this to their father, brother, and son? Forget private. These fools have people like Oxman, Rowe, Kaya, and others dragging Michael's name on the public stage and no one has said a damn thing. No, it's more important to twitter about supposedly fake songs for a week, about addiction no one can support, reviving their long dead music careers, the list goes on. How about Gene? Who in that family has blasted him for what he had said? No one, not even his mother who went on national TV and told the world how much Michael loved KISS.
I also don't care how you say I shouldn't be offended. For the record I am from Gary, IN myself along with my family. My dad grew up when the Jacksons were still doing nightclubs here and knew Jackie in passing because they went to the same school. For the decades the family were worship as heroes here, not just Michael. There was nothing they could do wrong and were seen as the model that we all should reach for. My dad knew otherwise. He told me when I was young that the Jacksons as a whole were a bunch of greedy, self-center people who used Michael's talent to reach for the top and then continue to use Michael as through his adult life. He even predicted everything that was going to happen after Michael had died.
I love my dad, but I honestly didn't really believe him. I thought despite all the problems and Michael's abusive father that at the end of the day they would stick by Michael and defend him. I thought my beliefs were justify when they came and supported him during the trial, none withstanding Rebbie's comments to MSNBC and her connection to Stacy Brown. Do you know how foolish and stupid I feel now to have everything my dad said come to pass and I chose not to believe what was clear to see from the start.
I am not demising this a a black or white thing, but just saying how things will be view by not just white people, but black people as well. You have the biggest black person in the world not being destroy by the media, but by the hands of his own family and it come across as typical.
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p
Thank you Latoya! Thank you for giving this snake the opportunity to rear its head again and smear your brother one more time. I thought you couldn't get worse. Boy, was I wrong.
Your actions in the past 2 1/2 months have re-confirmed what we already know about you, and enlightened us further regarding your character. You are a greedy, selfish bitter woman.
Thank you Latoya! Thank you for giving this snake the opportunity to rear its head again and smear your brother one more time. I thought you couldn't get worse. Boy, was I wrong.
Your actions in the past 2 1/2 months have re-confirmed what we already know about you, and enlightened us further regarding your character. You are a greedy, selfish bitter woman.
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Thanks Chris, I really appreciate the way you say us, fans, aren't able to think by ourselves. I feel privileged now to know it, by chance you told me, I wouldn't have been able to figure out by myself. Oh by the way, someone told me it is the fans that weren't happy at first.. then when it became more obvious this was a scam, the fanclubs decided to react... just saying.
Thanks Chris, I really appreciate the way you say us, fans, aren't able to think by ourselves. I feel privileged now to know it, by chance you told me, I wouldn't have been able to figure out by myself. Oh by the way, someone told me it is the fans that weren't happy at first.. then when it became more obvious this was a scam, the fanclubs decided to react... just saying.
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That's all I want to someone in that family to say enough. The media and everyone caused Michael nothing but grief and heartache and many sleepless nights I am sure. Did anyone ever see Michael just as a person? Just leave him alone already. I am sorry for the rant. I think with the trial coming my emotions are all over the place.
That's all I want to someone in that family to say enough. The media and everyone caused Michael nothing but grief and heartache and many sleepless nights I am sure. Did anyone ever see Michael just as a person? Just leave him alone already. I am sorry for the rant. I think with the trial coming my emotions are all over the place.
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Any word on how the sale of tickets are going?
Since it "appears" that they are not going to cancel this fiasco, I'd really like to know how it's going in the ticket sale department.
Any word on how the sale of tickets are going?
Since it "appears" that they are not going to cancel this fiasco, I'd really like to know how it's going in the ticket sale department.
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| http://www.stereoboard.com/index.ph...itterfeed&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=news Tickets for the Michael Forever tribute concert, scheduled for October 8th in the Millennium Stadium, have failed to sell-out after their first day of sales. Promoters had tried hard to advertise and hype the concert, but there has been a clear lack of demand for the tickets as MJ fans slammed the handling of what was supposed to be “the official Michael Jackson tribute concert.” But, Global Live Events remained confident that the show would be a sell-out and even claimed that they were in the exact position they had hoped and expected to be in with regards to ticket sales – despite previously saying “Tickets for the Concert are expected to sell out very soon after they are put on sale.” Paul Ring, US chief of GLE, said: “The registration process saw around 26,000 tickets taken up. Ticket sales have only been open for a short time, but we know that the system did crash at one point. “We hope to have sold around 50% of the tickets by the weekend, which is exactly how we had it planned. We then expect to be sold out by the end of the month. “With an event like this it is hard to get so many headliners to confirm, but once a few have confirmed it is like a domino effect. “We will be announcing three more big acts in the next few days and once they have been named, ticket sales will speed up even more. We know that fans are taking a bit of a gamble buying tickets now but I encourage people to get their tickets now rather than wait so they can get the best seats.” The under-fire co-ordinators have continuously spoken to press about their concert in their bid to advertise and promote their gig as much as possible, but fans may begin to wonder how much truth there is in their repetitive reassurances that the concert will be a massive, sold-out show after blunders like their dubious charity donation scheme. Ticketline’s Cardiff branch has told press that though some tickets had been sold, there was no real large-scale demand – whereas tickets for Princess Diana’s tribute concert sold-out within 20 minutes, and Freddie Mercury’s in 2 hours. |
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p
So if they are expecting it to sell out by the end of this month why bother doing a Q&A with the concerned fans on the 30th?
I really wish they would stop treating us like we are stupid.
Any sign of the new answers they were supposed to add today on the FB - it's now 5.15pm in the UK.
So if they are expecting it to sell out by the end of this month why bother doing a Q&A with the concerned fans on the 30th?
I really wish they would stop treating us like we are stupid.
Any sign of the new answers they were supposed to add today on the FB - it's now 5.15pm in the UK.
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Thanks Ben.
I was asking the question regarding the "ticket sales" at the very same time you were posting an answer to my question. We were definitely on the same wave-length.
Thanks Ben.
I was asking the question regarding the "ticket sales" at the very same time you were posting an answer to my question. We were definitely on the same wave-length.
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@Ramona
You know what, I thought the better since it is disrupting the flow of the thread. I read both of your posts. Disagree is not tantamount to not reading. I will actually PM my response to you.
@Ramona
You know what, I thought the better since it is disrupting the flow of the thread. I read both of your posts. Disagree is not tantamount to not reading. I will actually PM my response to you.
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Ben;3467136 said:
Hmmm....26,000 sounds like more than 'some tickets' and 'no real large scale demand' .....so I wonder if the 26,000 was really the number of registrations (the registration process saw around 26,000 taken up).
Given that Kiss fans may have registered, plus MJ fans pre Kiss fiasco, plus folk just registering to see how many seats were available ..I bet plenty of registrations were not paid for.
Thank you Ticketline's Cardiff branch for your quote. Do let us have updates !
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Had the exact same thought when I saw your post.
Re-the black/white issue, I may be mistaken, but I think it's an american/american thing. I dont think people outside the US think of the Jacksons as "black" or not. Right now, they see them mainly as greedy from what I've read.
I have no knowledge of what happened in other celebrities families. I just witnessed my own family falling apart when my grand parents died and it was all also all about money, and not THAT much. Actually it just served as a catalyst, because there was jealousy, grudges, hate, bitterness, way before that. I'm pretty sure the Jacksons are just the same. What I find strange is that they pretend to be a united family in front of the cameras, and all the sudden they take the dirty laundry out. Some of them anyway. I blame the lack of education personally. But it's just my feeling, there's much I dont know.
Had the exact same thought when I saw your post. Re-the black/white issue, I may be mistaken, but I think it's an american/american thing. I dont think people outside the US think of the Jacksons as "black" or not. Right now, they see them mainly as greedy from what I've read.
I have no knowledge of what happened in other celebrities families. I just witnessed my own family falling apart when my grand parents died and it was all also all about money, and not THAT much. Actually it just served as a catalyst, because there was jealousy, grudges, hate, bitterness, way before that. I'm pretty sure the Jacksons are just the same. What I find strange is that they pretend to be a united family in front of the cameras, and all the sudden they take the dirty laundry out. Some of them anyway. I blame the lack of education personally. But it's just my feeling, there's much I dont know.
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I think if this was a tribute that was supported by the estate and fans, better timing and better organized it would have sold out just like that.
I think if this was a tribute that was supported by the estate and fans, better timing and better organized it would have sold out just like that.
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Branca and/or McClain "probably" have some of those high-profile artist on their speed-dial. LOL! And if not the high-profile artist, then certainly their entertainment lawyers and/or their management teams. Those are exactly the types of connections one needs when attempting to put something like this together, in my opinion.
Shoot, Weitzman (attorney for the estate) "probably" has some pretty decent connections himself.
Most definitely!
Branca and/or McClain "probably" have some of those high-profile artist on their speed-dial. LOL! And if not the high-profile artist, then certainly their entertainment lawyers and/or their management teams. Those are exactly the types of connections one needs when attempting to put something like this together, in my opinion.
Shoot, Weitzman (attorney for the estate) "probably" has some pretty decent connections himself.
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Ne-Yo to play Michael Jackson tribute show
Ne-Yo is the latest artist who has signed up to appear at the Michael Jackson Tribute Concert in Cardiff, Wales, in October.
Ne-Yo has been added to the bill for the Michael Jackson Tribute Concert.
The 'So Sick' hitmaker - who wrote songs for the 'Thriller' hitmaker before he passed away in June 2009 - will join the likes of Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green, Smokey Robinson, Leona Lewis and Craig David in paying tribute to the late singer at the event, which is due to take place at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on October 8.
The concert - which will be broadcast around the world - will see the artists each perform tracks from Michael's back catalogue and has been endorsed the King of Pop's family.
His mother Katherine said: "It is with great gratitude for me to give my complete blessing and full support to what I consider to be the one and only Official Michael Jackson Tribute Concert.
"I will be there along with as many members of my family that are available. I am positive that this event will be an event great enough in scale, talent and imagination to form a worthy celebration of Michael's life.
"It is intended to be the biggest, and the best concert event in the world for many years to come. This is how Michael would have wanted it and I am sure it will be exactly that. I'll see you on October 8th, 2011!"
Other artists on the bill include JLS, Pixie Lott, Alexandra Burke, Michael's nephews 3T and the Jackson Brothers.
Tickets for the concert are on sale now, priced from £55.
http://entertainment.stv.tv/music/267723-ne-yo-to-play-michael-jackson-tribute-show/
Ne-Yo is the latest artist who has signed up to appear at the Michael Jackson Tribute Concert in Cardiff, Wales, in October.
Ne-Yo has been added to the bill for the Michael Jackson Tribute Concert.
The 'So Sick' hitmaker - who wrote songs for the 'Thriller' hitmaker before he passed away in June 2009 - will join the likes of Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green, Smokey Robinson, Leona Lewis and Craig David in paying tribute to the late singer at the event, which is due to take place at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on October 8.
The concert - which will be broadcast around the world - will see the artists each perform tracks from Michael's back catalogue and has been endorsed the King of Pop's family.
His mother Katherine said: "It is with great gratitude for me to give my complete blessing and full support to what I consider to be the one and only Official Michael Jackson Tribute Concert.
"I will be there along with as many members of my family that are available. I am positive that this event will be an event great enough in scale, talent and imagination to form a worthy celebration of Michael's life.
"It is intended to be the biggest, and the best concert event in the world for many years to come. This is how Michael would have wanted it and I am sure it will be exactly that. I'll see you on October 8th, 2011!"
Other artists on the bill include JLS, Pixie Lott, Alexandra Burke, Michael's nephews 3T and the Jackson Brothers.
Tickets for the concert are on sale now, priced from £55.
http://entertainment.stv.tv/music/267723-ne-yo-to-play-michael-jackson-tribute-show/
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The one and only offical tribute show according to katherine.talk about a backhanded comment to the estate.i guess they have pulled her out to do some more p.r work to go around asking artists so they feel like they cant say no..neyo should know better do they not read whats going on. Whos next ecas and navi?
The one and only offical tribute show according to katherine.talk about a backhanded comment to the estate.i guess they have pulled her out to do some more p.r work to go around asking artists so they feel like they cant say no..neyo should know better do they not read whats going on. Whos next ecas and navi?
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I guess they found a old tupperware of leeks in the back of the fridge, huh? Just throw it in and stir! Ridiculous.
I guess they found a old tupperware of leeks in the back of the fridge, huh? Just throw it in and stir! Ridiculous.
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Do u think ppl will be able to tell the difference when neyo does his one mj song then loads of his own lol
Do u think ppl will be able to tell the difference when neyo does his one mj song then loads of his own lol