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[Video] Kiss singer and bassist Gene Simmons says he stands by comments he made about Michael Jackson that led to his band getting kicked off a Jackson tribute concert lineup.

Can't embed video, watch here: http://www.wesh.com/r-video/28963766/detail.html

This stuff is unreal. You can't write this.

I'm in awe of his family... and I still get to read comments on other sites about how it's the estate that's dodgy? Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh...

Frank Dileo died and I felt more love and understanding from him about Mike than I have in about 85% of anything his family has done since his death.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

This concert has nothing to do with Michael Jackson what so ever. It is a fund raiser for the Jackson family.
 
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I don't remember the families of other black entertainers acting like this. I don't see their actions as a reflection of their race. It's just a Jackson thing

James Brown's was pretty pitiful...but MJ's family is far worse.

I think race & education are at play. The reason the Jacksons are acting as shady and going after Branca is partly because he is white and he is in control of what they perceived to be "their" a black family's hard work. Michael didn't see things that way.

Race has plenty to do with the shadiness that's been going on. Aside from Randy's tweet, have you heard any Jackson attack John McClain?


OT: Follow the Money Latoya will have to forgive Gene Simmons again I guess
 
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Wow unbelievable I think Gene Simmons has really serious moral issue. Why did he agree to perform in someone's tribute when he thought that person is a pedophile? Are you serious? I said before, either he is a hypocrite or he has some serious issue when he agreed to perform.

EXACTLY, something is wrong with you if you think someone did all these horrible things, and then decide to do a tribute in their honor. Either he is ashamed because the media spread that he was dropped due to his comments and now is trying to save face by saying he stands by his words; or, he is in desperate need of money and air time and is trying to revamp his career.
 
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I don't remember the families of other black entertainers acting like this. I don't see their actions as a reflection of their race. It's just a Jackson thing

The Jacksons are the biggest and most well known black family in the world. So they are seen as a reflection of the American Black family unit. It didn't help that Motown promoted the image of them being a happy, caring, loving, functional family to the masses. It wasn't until decades later we learned that things weren't all roses and sunshine. Even then, the family still tries to promote themselves as moral, loving, and above judgment. The way the are acting is promoting the image that black people can't handle money because they spend it on stupid investments, their inner circle of friends and family who are often no good to them, and the willingness to sell out one another to get ahead. The thing is similar things has happen to other semi famous black families like Fantasia who family has use her fame, money, and left her out to dry. So, it kind of short sighted to dismiss what they are doing as simply a 'Jackson' thing. Especially when they undermine the most success black person in modern history who is rival only by Oprah and Obama.

Yes, white families and acts has done similar things, but there is just a smaller pool to look at with black people and people often judge us base on who sticks out the most. It is easy for one who isn't black to say that, 'we don't look at race', when you're not black and don't understand how black children look up to people like the Jacksons as the ultimate success story.

However, this is off-topic and I simply wanted to share my experience to why I think the Jackson clan is currently a disgrace.



As for Gene. What can I say, he is an asshole. His comments reflects more badly on him then it does Michael at this point. He believe Michael screw kids, yet he saw no problem with honoring a man he did such a terrible crime. Even if he says it is just to honor the music, that still does little to excuse what he had done. Because you are telling the suppose victims that you don't really care what happened to them because the man's music was so good. So, you are telling the victims that they are trash and what happened to them doesn't really mean anything.

Most likely Gene took the gig for the same reason he does most of the things he does, money. He had said that KISS simply wants money. It has never been about the music, the fans, or even fame. It's all about getting as much as they can out of people's wallets, screw morals and principles. Gene dishonored himself, but I know for a man like that it doesn't mean a thing to him. Which is why it is more of a disgrace that the Jacksons even considered him to be part of any tribute. Yet to them, it was only 'unfortunate'.
 
myosotis;3466496 said:
Cinzia....Thank you for posting....I notice that:

For 12 people, the Platinum package includes:
A glass of Champagne
• A sumptuous 2 course Buffet on arrival
• Bar package to include beer,wine, cider and soft drinks throughout (with the option to purchase spirits)
• VIP Waiter and Hostess servicefor you and your guest
Fast service merchandise ordering
Commemorative Pass and Lanyard
£5988 plus VAT (21%) (or $9580 plus VAT) :bugeyed

Wow. a whole glass of champagne and a commemorative pass each....(er, thats 8-12 glasses of champagne to a bottle usually, so one or two bottles at erm, maybe £25 each?
Speechless!
and laughing at the 'fast service merchandise ordering'.... :rofl: :doh: :tickingtimebomb


....and unless you live nearby, you still presumably would need to pay for travel costs, hotel, meals etc.

I've just looked up a comparison for corporate hospitality costs, and for a similar price (or not much more, depending on dates) you can get a whole day 'Wimbledon No 1 court' package with coffee, lunch, tea, free bar all day etc etc.

Probably this is just a buzz to get people to buy tickets. But in the other hand, if they do it then their profit would be less which is not bad at all. That show can't go on, something has to happen. God has to help us.
 
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On Showbiz tonight they are going to show Gene Simmons and what he said. I just saw a clip of and he stands by what he says. I cannot stand this. I can't believe they were even approached to do the tribute. It's hard to see someone talk about Michael like that. It's like someone is stabbing you. It hurts.
 
myosotis;3466241 said:
Had to laugh at this description from the viagogo ticket site...wonder if anyone has told Jermaine? (I wonder who gives them this info?)

http://www.viagogo.co.uk/Concert-Tickets/Rock-and-Pop/Michael-Jackson-Tribute-Tickets

Michael Jackson Tribute Tickets

The death of Michael Jackson, the undisputed King of Pop, shocked the world. “The Tribute - In Memory of Michael Jackson” is a concert that will honour Michael Jackson’s life and work. Michael Jackson’s brother, and fellow member of the Jackson 5, Jermaine Jackson is organising this Michael Jackson tribute along with other members of the Jackson family. Fans with Michael Jackson tribute concert tickets can expect to see a show that celebrates the King of Pop’s greatest hits. So make sure you get your, “The Tribute - In Memory of Michael Jackson” tickets so you too can celebrate the King of Pop


EDIT: I think viagogo have probably re-used wording from the failed Wembley tribute....but I wonder if this might give the estate ammunition to close down ticket sales....the description mentions Michael's full name........... (Ooops!)

http://[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/mjtributeviagogotickets.jpg/][/URL]


http://[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/mjtributemichaeljackson.jpg/][/URL]

Please someone help me understand, is this another tribute? What is this "The Tribute in Memory of Michael Jackson" and what about the Forever Tribute, are both the same? Why the Jacksons are involved and what happened with the estate?
 
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James Brown's was pretty pitiful...but MJ's family is far worse.

I think race & education are at play. The reason the Jacksons are acting as shady and going after Branca is partly because he is white and he is in control of what they perceived to be "their" a black family's hard work. Michael didn't see things that way.

Race has plenty to do with the shadiness that's been going on. Aside from Randy's tweet, have you heard any Jackson attack John McClain?


OT: Follow the Money Latoya will have to forgive Gene Simmons again I guess
I agree Branca's race definitely plays a big role in all this, one of the reasons they are calling him out and not nearly as much John McClain. I think race is a huge issue when it comes to the Jackson's and the Jackson's supporters. But I think their illiteracy plays an even bigger role in their quest for money, as I don't attribute their greed to race. The fact that none of them are educated nor seem to value or even understand the importance of a good education is clear thru their actions.
 
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The merchandise will most likely include Joe's products. This is really a family affair: Follow the money Latoya's business is involved, papa Joe's business is involved, Katherine, and sons get money, and the only ones missing as far as we know is Rebbie and Janet. Jermaine has a book coming out so he is out, but why Randy is out I do not know. Maybe for once, he is doing the right thing.
 
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I don't think Randy has ever done the right thing in his life, there's gotta be a selfish reason behind his decision to stay away. I don't see why fans are still bringing Janet up, it's no secret that Janet does whatever Randy does, plus why should she bother with this, as long as they exploit Michael everything's fine and dandy for Janet.
 
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I think because it seems odd that she is saying nothing about this and doesn't seem to participate in it. You would think she might say something either way.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

The merchandise will most likely include Joe's products. This is really a family affair: Follow the money Latoya's business is involved, papa Joe's business is involved, Katherine, and sons get money, and the only ones missing as far as we know is Rebbie and Janet. Jermaine has a book coming out so he is out, but why Randy is out I do not know. Maybe for once, he is doing the right thing.

So Jermaine is in? Oh God, what a confusion. Does the Memorial Tribute & the Forever tribute are the same or is only one? And what the estate is doing about this, now they're using Michael's name & last name. Either they want to provoke the estate or there is a loop hole somewhere.
 
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Murray's trial is getting ready to start in a few weeks. And the Jacksons seem like they couldn't care less. I could see a trial where very little of Michael's family shows up or they never show up. I hope that never happens because that would be horrible
 
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"There are two that aren't so happy. I don't wish to be ungenerous to anyone. I have the greatest respect for Jermaine, who I've met a number of times.
"He did a couple of times announce that he was going to organise a concert like this and then wasn't unable to do so. So I suppose it's a little understandable."

Oh lord! I just have to respond to this before going any further through this thread.....he's dissing Jermaine big time here is'nt he!:hysterical:

I think because it seems odd that she is saying nothing about this and doesn't seem to participate in it. You would think she might say something either way.

@marebear.....Its Janet doing Janet, nothing new there.
 
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I don't really care if Gene stands by what he says. The guy was not suddenly going to cry and plead to be "forgiven". And most people who hate Michael stand by whatever reasoning they can come up with no matter what evidence is there regarding Michael's innocence. I knew that a long time ago now. For me, I'm not surprised by this at all. In fact I knew Gene would say something like that sooner or later when it was all over the place that the band had been dropped from the tribute line-up. I personally don't understand why he even wanted to be involved with the tribute when he made the statements that he made. But oh well.

This is all just my opinion.
 
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I think the contempt with which GL has been and is treating the fans comes from the idea we are like Bieber's fans : hysterical teenagers (no offense). It's a huge mistake. Most of us are way past that stage. We have jobs, we're reasonable thinking adults, we know how to do our own research. We each have our areas of expertise. From the start we have examined and cross checked each and every fact or individual in this. We are now used to doing this.
They can't tell us we havent heard their answers, there's been none. From the very early stages of this farce, I know fans who have emailed GL with questions, that have strangely never been answered. There were even more questions on the FB page, they were deleted, and the posters banned. Where's the answer to the letter from the Estate? Where's the answer to the collective letter?
WE havent heard their explanations? Maybe it's because we havent had any yet. You want that conference call? Bring it on people, you're in for a big surprise. We obviously know more about you than you know about us.



Re-gene, this guy has things to sell. It's on his FB page. He's one of those who thinks bad publicity is still publicity, and he still wants to be seen as a bad boy. Kiss had to use make up and ridiculous outfits to attract attention, and look like rebels in the 80's. Now this. Just plain pathetic.
 
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This concert has nothing to do with Michael Jackson what so ever. It is a fund raiser for the Jackson family.
exactly. And gene simmons doesnt stand by anything.the fact he agreed to take part to me shows what he says and does is for attention and nothing more.and probably doesnt even believe what he says just knows it will get him some attention if he says it.which makes him sicker than he can ever claim mj is
 
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I maybe wrong but the only colour issue I see here is the colour of money.

I am so angry by the fact that no one has apologised for the whole Gene Simmons fiaso, GL says it was 'unfortunate' - and the Jacksons have said NOTHING.


GL say that we are uneducated and don't know their side, well setting up a conference call one week before the show is not going to help. Don't they have the answers now? Clearly not by the fact that they are not answering them on FB.

Michael gave us his best and he deserves so much more than this.
 
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I'm confused about Global Live Events. When I Google them, they come up as a reputable looking organization who seem to have been around for some time and have offices in London, New York and Los Angeles. But I see that this tribute is being 'organized' and I use the word loosely, by GS GLOBAL LIVE EVENTS LTD organized in March as a "Private Limited with share capital" company, registration number 07621416. So what's the real story? Are they an offshoot of GLE? What is their relationship with GLE? The more I read the more confused I confess I'm getting. Because if they are related in some way, but GLE is not in charge, it looks more and more like this company was formed just for this event. I know I'm not being very clear but I'm trying to think 'out loud'...Maybe what I'm trying to say is if GS GLOBAL LIVE EVENTS LTD is part of GLE, why the need for a separate and 'private' company? Unless something shady is the intention. And it certainly looks that way to me. Or am I totally out in left field?
 
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Alex burke on radio one saying she doesnt know which mj song shes singing yet lol.well she wont have many to pick from!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Was she a guest on Fern's show? Or was it a soundbite on the entertainment news section or something?

I read yesterday she has allocated 3 weeks rehearsal time for this show, but she'll need to know what she's singing first.
 
Aquarius;3466750 said:
Please someone help me understand, is this another tribute? What is this "The Tribute in Memory of Michael Jackson" and what about the Forever Tribute, are both the same? Why the Jacksons are involved and what happened with the estate?

Aquarius:
Via gogo sell tickets on the secondary market ie people who buy tickets can re-sell them safely through this organisation, which provides assurances that sellers will get their money and buyers their tickets ( a bit like ebay, but Viag is a specialist firm for ticket re-sales) Many high profile sports and entertainment companies recognise viag officially, and are affiliated to viag, which means that these companies get a percentage of the commission that viag takes from the re-sale. (ie so these companies make a profit even from the re-sale of their tickets). It is not clear from their website whether via is affiliated with any of the parties to the Cardiff Tribute concert eg the Millennium stadium, or with the Welsh Rugby Union which owns the stadium. Viag does however have the detailed plan of the Millennium stadium on its website, so I guess Viag must be ‘allowed’ to show this. GLE do say in their terms and conditions that Tribute tickets will be invalidated if they are re-sold, so it appears that viag do not have an official affiliation with GLE.

I presume that the Estate could require Viag to ‘cease and desist’ secondary ticket sales using Michael’s name and image? This kind of action may be likely to be reported in the general press and would raise public awareness of the background to the GLE concert.

As regards the concert description, it looks as though Viag took this from the cancelled London Wembley Tribute concert, which Jermaine was organising (that’s the one after the Vienna Tribute concert) …presumably Viag was going to be involved with ‘ticket re-sales’ from the Wembley tribute. So yes, it is the same concert, but with the wrong description on the viag site.
 
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^^^^Has anyone sent the link to the on-line team?

I find this quote deeply offensive, second only to them booking Simmons.

He added that the beneficiaries of the concert would be the Aids Project Los Angeles, the Prince's Trust and a trust fund for Michael Jackson's children, Prince Michael, 14, Paris, 13, and nine-year-old Prince Michael II, known as Blanket.

I am offended for Michael and the assumption that he has not provided for them.
Question for GL: So no other Jackson is benefitting from this concert?
 
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to add further insult to injury, has anyone noticed the glaringly obvious mistake for the text to win tickets competition on michaelforevertribute.com page?

Michaels first solo album is none of the answers you are required to text to win. I have emailed GlobalLiveEvents to point out how stupid they are and the fact that his first solo album was indeen 'Off the Wall'.

Just more proof of this fiasco! Glad I am boycotting the show, and nice to see all this support

MJ forever xxx
 
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^^^ sorry sweetie, Michael's first solo album was Got To Be There, 1972 (I think), Off The Wall was his first as an adult.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

to add further insult to injury, has anyone noticed the glaringly obvious mistake for the text to win tickets competition on michaelforevertribute.com page?

Michaels first solo album is none of the answers you are required to text to win. I have emailed GlobalLiveEvents to point out how stupid they are and the fact that his first solo album was indeen 'Off the Wall'.

Just more proof of this fiasco! Glad I am boycotting the show, and nice to see all this support

MJ forever xxx

I am kind of confuse by your post.

Are you saying GL thinks Michael's first solo album is Off the Wall or are you saying it is Off the Wall and it's not one of the text answers?
 
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B.S. I'll repeat it once again Freddy Mercury tribute sold out in 2 hours, Princess Diana in 20 minutes. this concert isn't selling out quickly at all.

and what did we got wrong Chris Hunt?

- We said that you charity donations were coming from the pledged money and not the ticket prices. We were right.
- We said that seeing Michael himself was cheaper. We were right
- We suspected Latoya was behind this tribute. We were right.
- We felt that you weren't prepared and didn't have artists signed up. We were right, you couldn't announce your line up at the date you announced.
- We said that Michael's children was a part of the contractual agreement. We were right, they are listed under terms and conditions.
- We said that most of the artists wasn't the "galaxy of superstars" , we were right.

seriously what did we got wrong?

There is NOTHING "we got wrong." There is NOTHING they could possibly say that would change opinions at this point. The points Ivy made, above, still stand. Fans do not have a LACK of information. The MJJC letter was spot-on, and there is no possible spin that will change that.

In addition to being incredibly untimely (Murray trial), there may be several legal issues going on here that could get the Jacksons into a LOT of trouble. (they seem to be in denial?) One is that they CANNOT use Michael's name and image for profit that way. So far, the Estate has given Katherine a pass, but I do hope that they crack-down, now. I think there are very few fans who would fault them for that, at this point. A second thing has to do with the advertising of the event as a "charity" event. That may be a legal issue, in . . . how MUCH of the proceeds from an event must be donated for it to be considered for "charity?" The way things are going now, that may well be FRAUD? Donating to charity is "optional?" Isn't it ALWAYS optional, as in donating online to this or that charity/non-profit organization? A charity event donates a percentage of the proceeds to a charity, and isn't that established in advance? So where is the ticket money going? To the JACKSONS, and to GL. That doesn't seem like a "charity event," to me!

(and why the HELL would Simmons agree to participate in a "tribute" if his statements about Michael still stand? Incredible opportunism, I'd say. Or, a cognitive problem where he simply doesn't comprehend the word, "tribute?")

Can this END, now?
 
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^^^ sorry sweetie, Michael's first solo album was Got To Be There, 1972 (I think), Off The Wall was his first as an adult.

Yeah, that's probably why they don't have Off the Wall as a choice to minimize an incorrect answer. This is really just a flat out giveaway. Everyone knows it definitely was not Thriller and Dangerous came even later, after Bad.
 
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They claimed in the press conf they picked the date to commemorate Michael's first solo single release, which is Got to be there in 71.
 
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