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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

there are fake accounts on the fb site?? how u guys know?

Some are obvious (Rasmus) some are less obvious, but when you have an account with no profile picture, nothing written on the wall, and only the tribute as an interest... that gives a hint.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Don't know whether to laugh or to cry. The organizers think people would pay to go to a stadium to watch a recorded performance projected to a giant screen?

Don't know about others. If I'm paying hundreds of dollars for a concert ticket, I expect to see the performer performing live in front of my eyes. :doh:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Finally they signed one of " the worlds greatest performers" and she can't even be there in person...thanks to the last minute (dis)organisation...
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

are you serious....cannot be there is person....who in their right mind would pay to see that....you can watch the same type of ish on a tv screen from your own living room. What a flop this thing is..

After a presentation by Brian Oxman having been announced for a previous

tribute, this doesn't even shock me.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Lawd, lawd!!! Just pull the plug on this thing. Beyonce BEAMING in only makes it a bigger joke. Just cut your losses GLE and move on already. Geez.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

So I can go all the way to Wales to watch Beyonce or I can stay home in my PJ's eating Popeyes chicken watching her on YouTube. Ah what a chose
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I also don't know whetere to laugh or cry at that point...
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

This is their first "biggest stars in the world" and she won't even be there in person?

What makes watching a video of Beyonce in a stadium any better than watching a video of Beyonce at home?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

They really want Money.....

( if my message is not post directly, no need to post it later mods, I'll not post anymore. )
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I'm wondering why they didn't take this HUGE Breaking News story to CNN and announce it like they did Kiss/Gene Simmons and Pixie Lott.

Did they even release a press statement, or was it just posted on their Facebook page?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

They probably didn't want to go on TV and say "At this beautiful tribute, we will be playing a video of Beyonce."
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

What makes watching a video of Beyonce in a stadium any better than watching a video of Beyonce at home?

I think it's actually better to watch at home actually, you can stay in your pyjama, you're sure it ain't gonna rain, you can fart without faking to search around you who did that, and you're saving your voice from screaming, PLUS it's much cheaper and much more comfy.

:lol:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I was wondering if they have to get the okay from Rod Temperton and Siedah Garrett to sing the songs they wrote for Michael?

Sorry but I don't want to hear Reebie singing "Rock With You" again...
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Beyonce on video??? HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

It would be the best comedy series ever, if Michael's name wasn't involved in this mess.
 
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Beyonce on video??? HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

It would be the best comedy series ever, if Michael's name wasn't involved in this mess.

And she'll be singing a JACKSON-FIVE SONG. Don't forget that part, because in my opinion, that's the icing on the cake. LOL!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

what is this obession with jackson 5 songs??? they are allowed to sing michael's songs right?

Its the family again wanting to make out like people are fans of michael mostly cos of the J5 days lol
 
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About the Gen Simmons situation look what I found:
This was posted recently on YAHOO UK

Crimson 16 hours ago
Some of you who don't know, or don't remember, might be interested to know that Michael Jackson and Gene Simmons were once in competition for the same woman-Diana Ross. Yes, as odd as it sounds, Gene Simmons and Ms. Ross were at one time an "item." But there has always been a persistent rumor that Michael lost his virginity to her; at any rate, he was always very in love with her. The bad blood between Jackson and Simmons goes back to this time, that is when it all started.
 
MJ Tribute Concert Rolls Toward Cancellation; Oh, And His Kids Are More Or Less Contractually Required To Attend

By Ben Westhoff Mon., Aug. 22 2011 at 10:25 AM




http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2011/08/the_michael_jackson_tribute_co.php?page=2

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&#8203;The pressure is mounting for organizers to call off the Michael Jackson tribute concert -- scheduled for October 8 in Wales. From the beginning, this looked like a wretched, sketchy affair, a money grab posing as a charity event. Little known fact: Did you know that his kids are more or less obligated to attend? Reads the promoter Global Live Events' terms and conditions for the sale of tickets: "Michael's mother Mrs. Katherine Jackson has agreed to attend the concert with as many of Michael's children as are available."
In any case, Jermaine and Randy Jackson opposed this gig from the start, and opposition began to mount when the lackluster line-up was rolled out. The biggest names included Christina Aguilera, Leona Lewis, Cee-Lo, and KISS, whose bassist Gene Simmons told Classic Rock magazine last year: "There's no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt."
Last week MJ's estate publicly decried the affair, complaining about the inclusion of KISS -- who were promptly removed -- and speculating that the concert may be unlawful in its use of MJ "intellectual property," which the estate controls. And now, a group of 35 MJ fan forums have joined together to issue a statement advising Global Live Events to cancel the show.
"From the timing of this tribute in the middle of Dr. Murray's trial," reads the letter, which was posted Saturday and references the upcoming manslaughter case of Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray, "to the ticketing prices, to the obscurity over what charities will be receiving the donation, to the no-guarantee policy of performers, the addition of Gene Simmons and dishonoring, thus tarnishing Michael Jackson's legacy was simply the last straw."
A Fans Against the Michael Forever Tribute Facebook page has 900 members, while the official Michael Forever Tribute page is overrun with negative comments. The complaints get into the whole smorgasbord of controversies associated with the event, including the complicated ticketing process (in which fans donating the most to charity were initially offered better opportunities to receive tickets), and the involvement of MJ's children. Here are sampling of fan comments from the official tribute page:
*Celebration time, KiSS is outta here and now we work on getting this Tribute concert canceled, we'll will start by going to the acts!
*Without a futher announcement of better artists taking part I will not complete my purchase, announce some better acts or my £400 will be staying in my account!!

*I am happy to know that the Estate don't support this. As I said on another board, this whole tribute concert to MJ Is a joke, Why do they bother at all. MJ would never like
this concert. *I really wonder how the artist who are planning to perform in this so-call tribute feel about all of this negative press. Because it sure is alot of negative press.
*I would hope they are giving their Mngmt a good kicking!!! If every other prominent name was giving this Tribute a wide berth it should have been a really big warning signal to every other artist!! Who knows how they were coerced into this. I must admit I do feel sorry for them, but hopefully like us they will be seeing what a 'con' this all is.
*So happy about the statement of the Estate. The Jackson$ were already has been,
now everybody will know publicly that it's ALL ABOUT MONEY WITH THEM! And the
worst, it's MJ's kids live with them.
*No Estate approval - most fans wont be around for this. We are aware that the money
will NOT go to charity. I dont trust anything that isnt Approved by Michaels Estate.
*Can anyone here recommend a nice pub in Cardiff so that the 10 fans planning to attend the concert can get together and have some drinks when it gets cancelled?



 
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I hope it does get cancelled soon because all this is just embarrassing to watch.
 
what is this obession with jackson 5 songs??? they are allowed to sing michael's songs right?Its the family again wanting to make out like people are fans of michael mostly cos of the J5 days lol
They cant use mj written songs without the estates permission.so it doesnt leave many other mj songs.Whats the betting they just found a beyonce video on utube of her singing a j5 song and will claim she recorded it just for them lol.
 
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Glad to see someone exposing the fact that the kids were involved in the negotiations. I find it strange that the media don't go after Katherine over this. It's not like they like Katherine or anything, so why not call this stuff out?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

what is this obession with jackson 5 songs??? they are allowed to sing michael's songs right?

Its the family again wanting to make out like people are fans of michael mostly cos of the J5 days lol

They would be allowed t sing MJ's song if it's not broadcast around the world like they plan to do. If, at any moment, money is involved like selling dvds of the show, selling the rights of the shows to a tv station for it to be broadcasted or anything like that, they need the rights from the Estate, and I bet they're ain't getting it, so no, if they plan any of this, they can't sing MJ's songs.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

They would be allowed t sing MJ's song if it's not broadcast around the world like they plan to do. If, at any moment, money is involved like selling dvds of the show, selling the rights of the shows to a tv station for it to be broadcasted or anything like that, they need the rights from the Estate, and I bet they're ain't getting it, so no, if they plan any of this, they can't sing MJ's songs.

Is that the copyright position? I was thinking it odd that in June 09 for example all these artists on tour were singing MJ covers whilst they were on tour, eg Madonna, coldplay, u2, beyonce. It was unlikely they were applying for permission as the estate was up in the air at that time, it was all probably done retrospectively and as a formality. We know of the King of pop tribute that Joe J 'endorses' which began this summer i think in spain and is touring round europe, this act consists of MJ songs. Has the estate signed off on this? Also Tito is performing in a MJ tribute show in Russia just before the Cardiff event and this is choc full of MJ's catalogue, so have they applied for formal permission to cover these songs? I'm wondering if doing covers just requires permission as a formality which is rarely refused and this is what GL was banking on as MJs children are SO looking forward to this event.

The fact the concert will now feature other artists doing their own hits as well as MJ songs may not necessarily be because the promotors have no access to the MIJAC catalogue but because the other artists are playing hardball in insisting on playing their own hits as they can argue the stadium will more likely be filled with their fans not MJ fans!

I think the broadcasting idea(which would def need special upfront copyright permission) in 2D and 3D (remember those ambitious claims at the beginning?) has long been shelved with this lack lustre lineup.
 
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Is that the copyright position? I was thinking it odd that in June 09 for example all these artists on tour were singing MJ covers whilst they were on tour, eg Madonna, coldplay, u2, beyonce. It was unlikely they were applying for permission as the estate was up in the air at that time, it was all probably done retrospectively and as a formality. We know of the King of pop tribute that Joe J 'endorses' which began this summer i think in spain and is touring round europe, this act consists of MJ songs. Has the estate signed off on this? Also Tito is performing in a MJ tribute show in Russia just before the Cardiff event and this is choc full of MJ's catalogue, so have they applied for formal permission to cover these songs? I'm wondering if doing covers just requires permission as a formality which is rarely refused and this is what GL was banking on as MJs children are SO looking forward to this event.

The fact the concert will now feature other artists doing their own hits as well as MJ songs may not necessarily be because the promotors have no access to the MIJAC catalogue but because the other artists are playing hardball in insisting on playing their own hits as they can argue the stadium will more likely be filled with their fans not MJ fans!

Anybody can sing an MJ song live during a concert as long as it stays in the concert and is not sold in any manner. That's why many artists sang an MJ song as a tribute during their own concert, just like Prince has been performing Don't stop 'til you get enough at every concert he did this year (I was there, it was great :lol: )

For the artists to play their own hits.. it's also may be because they have very few artists signed and they can't fill a 4 hour concert with only J5 songs sang by others.. to they have to fill with the artist's own hits I guess...
 
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Maybe be diff in the uk as the group oaisis have split and noel the song writer refused his bro to sing the oasis songs he wrote when his bro was doing a solo tour.theres also the issues of paying royalties
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

AngieJ - I was thinking the same thing. I am glad that a media organisation has pointed the whole contract thing with Michael's children. Between that and KISS I was well done with this tribute.
 
http://www.musicrooms.net/rock-and-...ckson-communities-oppose-tribute-concert.html

The Michael Jackson Forever concert is under increasing pressure to be cancelled by groups and family members

It seems that fans of Michael Jackson aren&#8217;t all getting behind the planned tribute concert in Cardiff, with over 30 fan communities have joined together to demand it be cancelled.

The letter, which is being led by the largest online community linked to the late star, states that they refuse to support the concert and claimed the gig is &#8220;doomed&#8221; already. It also claims that some reasons for the refusal to back the concert are the inclusion and subsequent removal of Gene Simmons, who publicly called Jackson a paedophile, and the fact that the concert is being held during the trial of Conrad Murray.

Despite the growing pressure on Global Live Events to cancel the gig, from Randy and Jermaine Jackson among others, organiser Paul Ring recently said to the BBC that the concert is &#8220;very much going ahead.&#8221; We shall see.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

AngieJ - I was thinking the same thing. I am glad that a media organisation has pointed the whole contract thing with Michael's children. Between that and KISS I was well done with this tribute.
TheChosenOne, you mean to tell me that Ms. Beyonce singing one of her favorite Jackson-5 songs is not the push you needed in order to register for a ticket. LOL!

(Just kidding.)
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

yeah... we shall see... If this thing is really going very much ahead, it'll just be another HUGE proof that they don't care about anything but themselves.
 
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