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Keeping thumbs up for estate that they finally can give a boot to this crook.
Keep me posted if you guys hear something from todays hearing.
 
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Is this the one Ivy said is in the probate court so we won't hear much unless the media writes about it?
 
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There are no more celebrations for executors are they are back to court with Tohme and DeMann case.
Thumbs up that we get some updates what is going on with the Tohme case.
 
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What does Randy have to say about Tohme?
 
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rainny said:
What does Randy have to say about Tohme?
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nothing since Thome was brought into MJ's life by good ol' Jermaine.
 
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Let's do a detective work

MOTION - COMPEL DEPOSITION

Petitioner(s): Tohme, Tohme R., Dr.

Attorney(s): Malingagio, Paul S., Esq.

MOTION CONTINUED TO 10/25/12 TO MEET MOTION TO STAY

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Tohme is trying to depose someone - probably the Executors, the following is the other ongoing stuff

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WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)

Petitioner(s): Branca, John McClain, John

Attorney(s): Weitzman, Howard, Esq


PRIOR ORDER: Cont to 10/17/12 Counsel submit on discovery issue, Motion to compel will be continuned from 10/17/12 to 10/25/12 10:00 a.m. to meet Motion to stay. NLT 11/21/12 counsel ordered to lodge with the court under seal correspondence provided to IRS re: Michael Jackson . Mr. Tohme is to account from time managrement agreements were signed going forward and is to file a motion to seal; 9/27/12 at 10:00 am R/; 8/30/12 counsel ordered to meet and confer on accounting issues with Dr. Tohme; 8/1/12; 7/25/12 at 10:00 am; 6/7/12 at 10:00 am notice waived; 4/30/12 @ 8:30 a.m.; 4/12/12 @10:00 a.m. NLT 4/5/12, Mr. Malingagio is to file a response
Filed 2/17/12
 
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ivy said:
Let's do a detective work

MOTION - COMPEL DEPOSITION

Petitioner(s): Tohme, Tohme R., Dr.

Attorney(s): Malingagio, Paul S., Esq.

MOTION CONTINUED TO 10/25/12 TO MEET MOTION TO STAY

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Tohme is trying to depose someone - probably the Executors, the following is the other ongoing stuff

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WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)

Petitioner(s): Branca, John McClain, John

Attorney(s): Weitzman, Howard, Esq


PRIOR ORDER: Cont to 10/17/12 Counsel submit on discovery issue, Motion to compel will be continuned from 10/17/12 to 10/25/12 10:00 a.m. to meet Motion to stay. NLT 11/21/12 counsel ordered to lodge with the court under seal correspondence provided to IRS re: Michael Jackson . Mr. Tohme is to account from time managrement agreements were signed going forward and is to file a motion to seal; 9/27/12 at 10:00 am R/; 8/30/12 counsel ordered to meet and confer on accounting issues with Dr. Tohme; 8/1/12; 7/25/12 at 10:00 am; 6/7/12 at 10:00 am notice waived; 4/30/12 @ 8:30 a.m.; 4/12/12 @10:00 a.m. NLT 4/5/12, Mr. Malingagio is to file a response
Filed 2/17/12
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I'd love to do some detective work, but I have no clue what is it about. That legal stuff goes over my head unless Ivy gives me a little lecture what is it about, especially the underlined part. What is that IRS thingy anyway?
 
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something to do with mjs unpaid taxes and the estate claiming thome was taking that money for himself instead of paying taxes?. the courts ordered thome to account for everything from the time he became mjs manager?
 
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Tohme has a "motion to compel deposition" - probably the executors. There's a competing "motion to stay" - probably coming from Executors asking for to delay it or wait for something. Judge will look to motion to delay / motion to compel deposition next week.

Judge ordered both sides to meet and confer about accounting.
Then he ordered Tohme to file accounting from the time he became a management (but sealed it)
Then he ordered (probably the Executors) to file the correspondence they had with IRS about Michael (probably about unpaid taxes for 3 years) again under seal.
Judge then ordered both sides to talk and submit an update to court about the discovery - information collection among both parties.

This just shows us the brief information about what has been going on in this regard.
 
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So while Thome and Bain were on board taxes were not paid? These are very good managers indeed.
 
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Petrarose said:
So while Thome and Bain were on board taxes were not paid? These are very good managers indeed.
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Both of them are tools.
 
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We cannot expect Bain to sort out Michael's taxes if she doesn't pay even her own:doh:

*Raymone Bain, a former general manager and publicist for Michael Jackson, pleaded guilty Wednesday for failing to file tax returns during the time she worked for the late pop star.
According to the Associated Press, the Justice Department said Bain failed to pay income taxes owed from 2006 through 2008. During that period, she was responsible for daily operations of the Michael Jackson Co., including financial and marketing tasks in addition to public relations.
 
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what a mess... why couldn't Mike find good and reputable folks to work for him. I could strangle Jermaine with my bare hands for getting MJ hooked up with crooked Thome
 
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I don't think it is that bad.
If you make a list of all the people around Michael, I think there as many good people in his life as there were bad ones + few really dirty rotten bastards.
Bad ones just gets highlighted here as we hate/dislike them for what they did to Michael.
 
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ivy said:
Tohme has a "motion to compel deposition" - probably the executors. There's a competing "motion to stay" - probably coming from Executors asking for to delay it or wait for something. Judge will look to motion to delay / motion to compel deposition next week.

Judge ordered both sides to meet and confer about accounting.
Then he ordered Tohme to file accounting from the time he became a management (but sealed it)
Then he ordered (probably the Executors) to file the correspondence they had with IRS about Michael (probably about unpaid taxes for 3 years) again under seal.
Judge then ordered both sides to talk and submit an update to court about the discovery - information collection among both parties.

This just shows us the brief information about what has been going on in this regard.
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And heads will roll .....
the gloves are going to come off. All that time when Nevvy was threatened with foreclosure
and his ever changing team of accountants shuttling through the revolving door..
I wouldn't put past certain people were dipping their hands into the cookie jar
lining their own pockets ... interesting to see what the discovery will unravel
 
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I worry about this one. The bad things I have read and heard people say about Tohme. I don't want him to get anything.
 
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Baby steps in Tohme case but at least something happening

01/30/2013 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859) (MR. TOHME'S ACCTG TO BE FILED NLT11/21/12 AND SET FOR HRG ON1/30/13 AT 10:00 A.M.)

Does this mean that Tohme was required show his accounting his time with Michael, he is going to show/file it 11/21/2012 and then there is hearing (judge decides something) about it on 30/01/2013?
 
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Bubs said:
Does this mean that Tohme was required show his accounting his time with Michael, he is going to show/file it 11/21/2012 and then there is hearing (judge decides something) about it on 30/01/2013?
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yes seems like it. We can wait to see if it's sealed or not and perhaps try to get it if it's not sealed :)
 
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^^Oh I will really like to see that accounting so we can go over it line by line. I wonder how much padding is in that accounting?
 
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I hope it is not sealed, I'm curious to see how he handled all the money and the payments to himself.
 
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I hope he gets a foot up his A$$!!
 
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This guy has silently got away with stuff for too long. While people looked at others, his creepy ass got to hide under a rock. I hope he get's his, it's about time!
 
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Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

What is his background?
 
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^Nobody knows. Jermaine found him, or he found jermaine. He was connected to barrack of colony capital.
 
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^^ Thanks. Who would know his past? I mean, he had to live somewhere, had to work; he might even have a family. Strange person.

For some reason, when I read something about him or see the pic of Michael with him the word sinister comes to my mind. There's something malevolent about him. I don't know how to describe it, but it feels like as if he can only have dark feelings. Scary.
 
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Aquarius said:
^^ Thanks. Who would know his past? I mean, he had to live somewhere, had to work; he might even have a family. Strange person.

For some reason, when I read something about him or see the pic of Michael with him the word sinister comes to my mind. There's something malevolent about him. I don't know how to describe it, but it feels like as if he can only have dark feelings. Scary.
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I agree. I will never forget the picture of him gripping Michael's arm hard when Michael was trying to make his way through a crowd of people. Michael looked like he was in pain. That was just sad and frightening to me.
 
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OMG. It was so sad to look at that picture. It looked as if he thought Michael was his possession. That horrible person putting his horrendous hands on Michael. How I wish he ends up in jail for a long, long time.
 
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