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Ashtanga said:
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I hope Tohme show your face... the man disappeared from the map. I'm wondering where he is.... :fear:
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Me too. Those court documents doesn't say if he was presence at hearings?
 
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ivy said:
Matter continued, there's another hearing set for April 30th.


04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
PROBATE - OTHER - Matter continued

04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859) - Matter continued

04/30/2012 at 08:30 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
PROBATE - OTHER

04/30/2012 at 08:30 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)
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Thanks so much for the update!
 
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As this is one of my first posts to this site, just wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone for being so informative regarding Everything Michael Jackson! This is just the first of many of my future post, I am sure. Again, thanks for the informitive info. On Everything Michael!

Autumn II said:
I think this all reads like a Greek tragedy, where family turns on family. Sure, it's possible that he got a cut on that deal. Michael cut OFF his family from his life, and only saw them at certain structured and semi-public events. Other than that, they had little access to him. There was a REASON. And of course, they were entirely cut out of the will. For a REASON. Michael was a gentleman, and didn't speak badly of his family in public. His private actions (or inactions) spoke volumes. I find Jerm to be a horror-show, actually, and I believe that he understood Tohme's intentions, and hoped to get a cut from ROBBERY of his own brother. That "we are a family unit" B.S. is entirely self-serving, IMHO. I think his hands are as dirty as anyone's.
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neppah5@gmail.com said:
As this is one of my first posts to this site, just wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone for being so informative regarding Everything Michael Jackson! This is just the first of many of my future post, I am sure. Again, thanks for the informitive info. On Everything Michael!
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Well that is just one persons opinion and is not neccessarily true or a fact. I certainly dont support that opinion or agree with it. So dont take everything a members says here at face value. In all fairness we should look all the info provided across the board to make an infomed decision ... on Everything Michael ! :) Welcome to the board
 
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neppah5@gmail.com said:
As this is one of my first posts to this site, just wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone for being so informative regarding Everything Michael Jackson! This is just the first of many of my future post, I am sure. Again, thanks for the informitive info. On Everything Michael!
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WElcome to the gang.
 
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Ashtanga said:
I hope Tohme show your face... the man disappeared from the map. I'm wondering where he is.... :fear:
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Probably hiding in a cave
 
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I dont think he is hiding he has never been much of a public firgure and he is not a celebrity.
Where do fans expect him to be anyway?
 
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8701girl said:
Probably hiding in a cave
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:lol:





qbee said:
I dont think he is hiding he has never been much of a public firgure and he is not a celebrity.
Where do fans expect him to be anyway?
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Well....


[youtube]KMmPeb_jWaI[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMmPeb_jWaI

:fear:



Many fans have many questions and we just want answers. So why he could not answer questions from fans? I see no problem with that. Or it has something to hide? :fear: This man is very obscure. FACT!
 
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qbee said:
I dont think he is hiding he has never been much of a public firgure and he is not a celebrity.
Where do fans expect him to be anyway?
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I think tohme reckons he does have some sort of celebrity staus cuz of his association with mj and is hiding fearing the truth bout him will come out. Tohme is sneaky and is doing everything he can to not let the truth out imo
 
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Funny that there is no probate notes at all even they have a hearing on Monday?
 
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they just posted the notes, it's the same thing as the judge just gave them time to file responses.

PRIOR ORDER: Cont to 4/30/12 ; 4/12/12
Filed 2/17/12
 
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So something is going to happen on Monday?

Ivy, did you check Ola Ray board, your assistance is needed there.
 
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04/27/2012 Substitution of Attorney
Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

04/26/2012 Response (TO APPLICATION OF RESPONDENT TOHME TOHME TO ABATE ACTION, ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

we will see if there will be a decision or if it will continue further
 
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Ivy, does this decision that's being waited on include the issue with Brett Livinstone Strong re the ownership of Michael's artwork? (and the estate is challenging that Thome had the right to work out such a deal with BLS, right?) Do you happen to know what the status of Michael's artwork is right now? Thanks!
 
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ownership of the art can became an issue if MJ Estate wins his claims about Tohme. They say that he didn't have the authority to sign over Michael's art. If they win they can get it back.

Currently I would assume that Livingstone-strong has the art.
 
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All I need to know is if the court decision in in favour of the Estate. When will we get to know that?
 
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ivy said:
04/27/2012 Substitution of Attorney
Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

04/26/2012 Response (TO APPLICATION OF RESPONDENT TOHME TOHME TO ABATE ACTION, ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

we will see if there will be a decision or if it will continue further
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So it seems there is no decision yet?
 
Roger Friedman writes "Van Exel was hawking two oil paintings by Michael Jackson, which she says he claimed were given to her by Michael’s mother. The Jackson estate is currently suing Michael’s ex-manager, Tohme Tohme, over two warehouses of Jackson’s art. Heathman says van Exel and Tohme are pals, and that she’s met the elusive Tohme."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerfr...ngs-thrown-out-in-l-a-dumpsters-by-associate/
 
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Every time I see the name Roger I cringe. His statements can be gossipy.
 
^ yes, i agree.

ivy;3632959 said:
Roger Friedman writes "Van Exel was hawking two oil paintings by Michael Jackson, which she says he claimed were given to her by Michael’s mother. The Jackson estate is currently suing Michael’s ex-manager, Tohme Tohme, over two warehouses of Jackson’s art. Heathman says van Exel and Tohme are pals, and that she’s met the elusive Tohme."
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Roger is pressed to keep this connection between raffles and mj alive, when we know mj barely even met the guy. Are we now to accept that there is a connection between thome and raffles because of the say-so of one of raffles disgruntled business associates? Tohme is such a lowprofile, mysterious character, it seems he can be used to fit into any conspiracy you want - previously wasn't he meant to be randy phillip[s brother in law, now he's raffles' gay partner in crime, preying on hollywood celebs. MJ's odd decision to have tohme as manager and to give him so much power, which the media are evidently becoming aware of because of the estate lawsuit, was down to tohme's connection to barrack and mj's weak financial situation, but you can be sure that the media are working up a sleazy story where thome was a lowlife like raffles and blackmailing mj over drugs or gay claims.
 
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Agree. when was rogers gossip unbanned?
 
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Petrarose said:
Every time I see the name Roger I cringe. His statements can be gossipy.
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Bonnie Blue said:
^ yes, i agree.



Roger is pressed to keep this connection between raffles and mj alive, when we know mj barely even met the guy. Are we now to accept that there is a connection between thome and raffles because of the say-so of one of raffles disgruntled business associates? Tohme is such a lowprofile, mysterious character, it seems he can be used to fit into any conspiracy you want - previously wasn't he meant to be randy phillip[s brother in law, now he's raffles' gay partner in crime, preying on hollywood celebs. MJ's odd decision to have tohme as manager and to give him so much power, which the media are evidently becoming aware of because of the estate lawsuit, was down to tohme's connection to barrack and mj's weak financial situation, but you can be sure that the media are working up a sleazy story where thome was a lowlife like raffles and blackmailing mj over drugs or gay claims.
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elusive moonwalker said:
Agree. when was rogers gossip unbanned?
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Whether we like it or not, Roger has printed some truth. And it's high time MJ fans acknowledge that some of his very sources, at one time or another, were part of MJ's entourage (Frank Cascio, Frank Dileo, to only name these two)
 
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And? most stories have some truth in them even if it is the most smallest amount. roger was given info by franks lawyer during 03-05. didnt make up for all the b.s he pulled before and after that. i wont support a slimeball just cause he printing something i want to hear. that would be fake and hypocritical
 
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06/07/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION-STRIKE (OK TO SET FOR 06-07-12 IN D-5)
06/07/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
DEMURRER (OK TO SET FOR 06-07-12 IN D-5)
06/07/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)
 
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^^Thanks so we have dates for June.
 
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marc_vivien said:
06/07/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION-STRIKE (OK TO SET FOR 06-07-12 IN D-5)
06/07/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
DEMURRER (OK TO SET FOR 06-07-12 IN D-5)
06/07/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)
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Next week we'll get news of this case. Hopefully this case goes forward and no one is asking delays:-(
 
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Bubs said:
Next week we'll get news of this case. Hopefully this case goes forward and no one is asking delays:-(
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Right. I must say that when the cases get delayed I remain in a state of unrest. I really want to see all the major cases completed so that I can fully enjoy the music.
 
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Petrarose said:
Right. I must say that when the cases get delayed I remain in a state of unrest. I really want to see all the major cases completed so that I can fully enjoy the music.
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Funny, I feel exactly the same!
It's probably irrational thing but thats the way I feel :)
 
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Just get the art back to where it should belong
Brett Livingstone should not be having the art.
Yeah right.....a gift from Michael's mom,
and I'll be the next Queen of Pop
 
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