MJ Estate Sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme Countersues / Tohme's Complaint [Merged]

Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

Being an altruistic person is a selfless person. Even the wolves practice being altruistic by a female not mating to help with the pups, being selfless for the good of the whole. We can pat ourselves on the back, as we all were altruistic in what we composed. Thank you!
 
I've never heard of this concept of finder's fees which tohme is claiming in the neverland deal. But in that 'spin-off' thread on randy's business dealings with mj during the trial, one is mentioned there also. Randy's accountant friend, don stabler, was looking to replace the bank of america loan and instructed damon dash of prescient company to find a loan which he did from fortress. In the lawsuit mj bought against prescient in dec 06, mj is refusing to pay a 9% finders fee for a $537m loan from fortress as he had never heard of damon dash and hadn't authorised stabler to agree to such a fee. Article from bbc -

Finance company Prescient Acquisition Group has been suing the singer, saying it is owed $48m (£24.5m).

The firm alleges it helped Mr Jackson find investors to help pay off a $272.5m (£139.1m) debt, and arrange $537.5m (£274.5m) in financing to secure the Beatles' back catalogue.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6206651.stm

The case was settled in june 07 so i've no idea what the outcome was. The loan that mj got was far less than $500 so it seems unfair. Maybe these finder's fees are commonplace, i've no idea - but it sounds like easy money for some and bad news for someone like mj who needs a loan - he has to pay the loan back, plus the high interest rates and a % of the loan.
 
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Probate Notes

Department LA 5 Court Convened at: 8:30:00 AM 3/28/2012
Honorable Mitchell L. Beckloff
M. Dewey , Deputy County Clerk M. Manskar , Deputy Sheriff
Elizabeth Virgoe, CSR 11732 , Reporter

BP117321 117 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr PROBATE - OTHER
Petitioner(s): Tohme, Tohme R., Dr.
Attorney(s): Malingagio, Paul S., Esq.
Continuance Number: Continuance From:
Last Date Changed: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:30:15 AM
Last Note Changed By: RWADA

To clear probate notes "filed documents" must be submitted to Rm 258, within time frames set forth in Rule 4.4(b) of LASC Rules. You may contact the Probate Attorney whose E-Mail address appears at the end of these notes, subject to compliance with all conditions governing the use of Interactive E-Mail. E-mail Rules are available in Rm 258 and on the Court's web site at www.LASuperiorCourt.org.

filed 3/8/12 - ex parte ok to file and set for

SUMMARY
Petnr is creditor
ATTY DECL FILED 3/8/12 - copy of civil action & probate petn attached

FACTS -
When it became clear that the personal representatives of the Jackson Estate were not going to resolve Petnr's meritorious claims, Petnr exercised his right to file a civil action for breach of contract and declaratory relief, seeking the just compensation as Jackson's manager to which he is entitled. On 2/1712, Petnr filed a civil action against the personal representatives of the Jackson Estate in the Superior Court, West District, Case No. SC 115988. On the same day, the Jackson Estate filed a Petition for Accounting, etc. against Petnr in the Jackson Estate probate proceeding, raising substantially the same issues as are raised in Petnr's Civil Lawsuit. Petnr's Civil Lawsuit was filed and served first and, pursuant to Probate Code Section 854, the Probate Petition should be abated so that the dispute between the parties may be resolved in the Civil Lawsuit.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED - N/A
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OBJECTIONS FILED 3/8/12
OBJECTORS: JOHN BRANCA AND JOHN MCCLAIN
ATTYS: HOWARD WEITZMAN, ZIA MODABBER, JERYLL COHEN
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SUMMARY-OBJS
Objectors are co-extrs

FACTS-OBJS
There is no emergency requiring ex parte relief and Petnr has delayed bringing this application; Probate Code Section 854 is not applicable to this action. Probate Code Section 854 states:
"If a civil action is pending with respect to the subject matter of a petition filed pursuant to this chapter and jurisdiction has been obtained in the court where the civil action is pending prior to the filing of the petition, upon request of any party to the civil action, the court shall abate the petition until the conclusion of the civil action. This section shall not apply if the court finds that the civil action was filed for the purpose of delay."
Section 854 relief is not available here because (1) the Santa Monica Action was not pending at the time this petition was filed - this action was filed on the same day as the Santa Monica Action; (2) the Court in Santa Monica did not acquire jurisdiction prior to this action
being filed because it was not served on objectors until February 21, 2012; and (3) this action does not involve the identical "subject matter" as the Santa Monica Action. Petnr incorrectly contends that this action involves the same subject matter as the Santa Monica Action. Objectors are seeking an accounting from Petnr and allege in their First Cause of Action on information and belief that "Petnr, through his position as trusted advisor and fiduciary, took control and possession of Jackson's assets and wrongfully diverted and/or spent Jackson's funds and property for his own benefit, including for payment of Petnr's personal expenses, travel and entertainment. The amount that Respondent collected and disbursed is unknown to Executors and cannot be ascertained without an accounting. Objectors' Second and Third Causes of Action seek recovery of specific recovery that Petitioners are informed and believe that Petnr wrongfully took from Jackson. In contrast, according to Petnr, the Santa Monica Action involves Petnr's "contract claims against the Jackson Estate arising from three written agreements he had with Michael Jackson." Although there are some claims and allegations that overlap between this action and the Santa Monica Action, the only claims in this action that exclusively involve Probate Code Section 850 are Petitioners' First to Third Causes of Action, which are not at issue in the Santa Monica Action. In fact, the remedies provided by Probate Code Section 850 et seq. are not available in the non-probate court in Santa Monica. Thus, abating this action would materially impair Petitioners' ability to obtain an accounting and return of property by delaying these claim for at least over a year, or even more. Accordingly, it cannot be said that the two cases involve the same subject matter. Section 854 is therefore inapplicable and Petnr's application should be denied.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED-OBJS - N/A

RELIEF
1. JTD order that the Jackson Estate's Probate Petition should be abated pending the outcome of Petnr's Civil Lawsuit;
2. JTD for a continuance of Petnr's obligation to respond to the Probate Petition until after this application for abatement may be heard
3. JTD OBJECTIONS - deny petn - Prob C Section 854 is not applicable

PROB ATTY COMMENTS: T/T
Rwada@lasuperiorcourt.org
RW (3/22)
RECOMMENDED DISPOSITION:RELATED ITEMS: 138
Order to be Prepared By Clerk: Attorney:

Department LA 5 Court Convened at: 8:30:00 AM 3/28/2012
Honorable Mitchell L. Beckloff
M. Dewey , Deputy County Clerk M. Manskar , Deputy Sheriff
Elizabeth Virgoe, CSR 11732 , Reporter

BP117321 138 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)
Petitioner(s): Branca, John McClain, John
Attorney(s): Weitzman, Howard, Esq
Continuance Number: Continuance From:
Last Date Changed: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:57:36 AM
Last Note Changed By: RWADA

To clear probate notes "filed documents" must be submitted to Rm 258, within time frames set forth in Rule 4.4(b) of LASC Rules. You may contact the Probate Attorney whose E-Mail address appears at the end of these notes, subject to compliance with all conditions governing the use of Interactive E-Mail. E-mail Rules are available in Rm 258 and on the Court's web site at www.LASuperiorCourt.org.

Filed 2/17/12

SUMMARY
Petnrs are co-extrs
ntc/copy to affected parties filed 2/28/12
spec ntc/copy filed 2/28/12

FACTS -
After being hired by Michael Jackson as his Personal Manager in early 2008, Respondent Tohme took control of virtually all of Jackson's personal and professional affairs, then did as he pleased. With no oversight or supervision, Tohme quickly set about to and did install a far-reaching and very lucrative financial package for himself obtained as a result of a manifest breach of his fiduciary duties. The package consisted of a series of agreements that were obtained without any arms length negotiations, and without Jackson having independent legal counsel or giving informed consent, and not surprisingly called for substantial and unfair financial compensation to Tohme. Left unchecked until he was terminated in or about March 2009 (but no later than April 14, 2009), Tohme used his powers as Jackson's fiduciary and agent to take possession of both money and valuable personal property belonging to Jackson that he never returned to Jackson or the Executors, or property accounted for. By this Petition, the Executors seek to undo the harm suffered by Jackson as a result of Tohme's breaches of fiduciary duty, obtain an accounting of all money, property and material entrusted to or taken by Tohme during his tenure and recover all money, property and other material belonging to the Estate. Alleges causes of action for wrongful taking, recission based on breach of fiduciary duty, unconscionability, undue influence, and for declaratory relief set forth below.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED - N/A

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OBJECTIONS FILED 3/21/12
OBJECTOR: Tohme R. Tohme
ATTORNEY: Paul S. Malingagio
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SUMMARY-OBJS
Objector is creditor/claimant
svd 3/21/12

FACTS-OBJS
With Tohme's application for abatement and for an extension of time in which to respond to the Petition pending and is set to be heard on March 28, Tohme will reserve any further response to the Petition until after the court considers and rules on his application for an extension of time to respond to the Petition and/or his motion for abatement of the Petition pursuant to Probate Code Section 854. Tohme expressly reserves his right and ability to seek abatement of the Petition and, if ultimately necessary, to substantively respond to the Petition with a demurrer, a denial or other appropriate responsive pleading. Before this Petition was filed, prior to 9:00 a.m. on 2/17/12,
Tohme filed a complaint in the Superior Court against the Jackson Estate, asserting claims for breach of contract and declaratory relief regarding the very same contracts which are the subject of the Jackson Estate's Petition herein. Among other things, Tohme's Civil Action alleges that he is entitled to compensation pursuant to a Finder's Agreement for his services in locating financing to prevent the foreclosure of Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch real property and Michael Jackson's personal property. In addition, Tohme's Civil Action seeks compensation pursuant to a Services Agreement with Michael Jackson through which Tohme provided services as Michael Jackson's manager for a period of more than one year. Tohme was forced to file the Civil Action because the Jackson Estate refused to pay him, or even offer to pay him, any of the amounts to which he is entitled under these agreements. The Jackson Estate's Petition in this court clearly was filed as a "defensive" measure to the claims asserted in Tohme's Civil Action. The Petition alleges, inter alia, that the Finder's Agreement and Services Agreement are not enforceable, and that Tohme is not entitled to any compensation whatsoever for his work and services, for a variety of reasons, including that Michael Jackson allegedly "did not know what he was signing." The Petition is meritless and nothing more than an attempt by the Jackson Estate to further delay payment of the sums to which Tohme is rightfully entitled.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED-OBJS - N/A

RELIEF
1. JTD order compelling Tohme to account for all monies and other property of Jackson's in his possession and control at any time, all monies and property of Jackson's misappropriated by Tohme, and all actions and transactions taken by Tohme with respect to Jackson's assets
2. JTD order directing Tohme to transfer, convey and deliver to the Executors all monies and other property belonging to Jackson or the Estate which he has in his possession or control
3. JTD for an award against Tohme in favor of the Estate in the amount of twice the value of all property wrongfully taken by Tohme
4. JTD for damages in an amount to be determined at trial, according to proof and for punitive damages
5. JTD for rescission of the Services Agreement, Finder Agreement and Indemnity Agreement and of any obligation thereunder to pay money to Tohme and for an order of restitution of any money or thing owing
6. JTD for rescission of the Services Agreement, Finder Agreement and Indemnity Agreement and of any obligation thereunder to pay money to Tohme and for an order of restitution of any money or thing owing
7. JTD for rescission of the Services Agreement, Finder Agreement and Indemnity Agreement and of any obligation thereunder to pay money to Tohme and for an order of restitution of any money or thing owing
8. JTD (a) Tohme is not entitled to commission any monies "received by" Jackson after Tohme was terminated (and certainly not on monies received after Jackson's death), (b) Tohme's "Services Agreement" is void or otherwise entitles him to no additional money, and (c) The Finder's Agreement entitles him to no further compensation and is void.
9. JTD for damages
10. JTD for interest on all amounts at the maximum legal rate,
11. JTD for an order imposing a constructive trust on all property wrongfully taken, concealed or disposed of by Tohme and all property traceable to property wrongfully taken, concealed or disposed of by Tohme
12. JTD for attorneys' fees and costs of suit incurred herein
13. JTD OBJECTIONS - Tohme will reserve any further response to the Petition until after the court considers and rules on his
application for an extension of time to respond to the Petition and/or his motion for abatement of the Petition pursuant to Probate Code Section 854. Tohme expressly reserves his right and ability to seek abatement of the Petition and, if ultimately necessary, to substantively respond to the Petition with a demurrer, a denial or other appropriate responsive pleading.

PROB ATTY COMMENTS: see related ex parte filed o/w contested matters
Rwada@lasuperiorcourt.org
RW (3/22)
RECOMMENDED DISPOSITION:RELATED ITEMS: 117
Order to be Prepared By Clerk: Attorney:

 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

I'm searching for the actual documents re: Tohme v Estate and coming up empty. Does anyone know where I can find it? Estate v Tohme seems to be everywhere.....

Any help will be much appreciated!
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

I'm searching for the actual documents re: Tohme v Estate and coming up empty. Does anyone know where I can find it? Estate v Tohme seems to be everywhere.....

Any help will be much appreciated!

Ivy posted earlier link to this if this is what you are looking for:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/82800302/Tohme-MjEstate-Complaint

Tohme's case number is SC115988 if that helps. LA superior court page doesn't show much with that number :(
I think you have to pay to see all the docs?
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

Dho! *smacks forhead* I missed it....
Thanks Bubs!
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

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news from Tohme case.
Today is the day in the court, hopefully judge gives a boot to Tohme and his demands:pth:
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

Can anybody put those statements in layman's terms or am I reading it as the estate says Thome has not been honest about Michael's money, which I don't doubt at all.
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

So any news from the court hearing?
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

Can anybody put those statements in layman's terms or am I reading it as the estate says Thome has not been honest about Michael's money, which I don't doubt at all.

This my layman's terms: Basically Tohme was robbing Michael's left and right, both money and property. Very short take :D

But if you want more detailed take, have a look at Ivy's summary here:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...me-countersues-Tohme-s-complaint-pg-14/page14 post no 209
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I don't know what happened two days ago at the court hearing, but they have set a new date.
Future Hearings
04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)

04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
PROBATE - OTHER


I'm getting very
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with this case.
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

I don't know what happened two days ago at the court hearing, but they have set a new date.
Future Hearings
04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)

04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
PROBATE - OTHER


I'm getting very
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with this case.

ehehe I know what happened.

Estate had filed their complaint against Tohme in Probate court asking the judge to force him to give them accounting and return the items he allegedly took. Tohme however filed a totally separate lawsuit in civil court asking the court to order Estate turn him accounting and pay him the money owed.

Obviously it resulted in two different courts looking over the same set of events with a little differentiating claims.

This Wednesday, the courts decided the claims will be seen at probate court. So the civil court vacated everything about Tohme's lawsuit and forwarded it to Judge Beckloff in probate court. It seems like probate court has set a date to hear the arguments.
 
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ivy,


good news.
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

ehehe I know what happened.

Estate had filed their complaint against Tohme in Probate court asking the judge to force him to give them accounting and return the items he allegedly took. Tohme however filed a totally separate lawsuit in civil court asking the court to order Estate turn him accounting and pay him the money owed.

Obviously it resulted in two different courts looking over the same set of events with a little differentiating claims.

This Wednesday, the courts decided the claims will be seen at probate court. So the civil court vacated everything about Tohme's lawsuit and forwarded it to Judge Beckloff in probate court. It seems like probate court has set a date to hear the arguments.

:clapping::clapping:

Thank you Ivy :bow:
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

Big point for the Estate. Thankyou for the update.
 
Re: MJ Estate sues Tohme Tohme / Tohme countersues / Tohme's complaint @pg 14

^^Good going--we want every thing at the same place.
 
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There's a hearing about this on probate court next week. The court is getting ready to hear the arguments by MJ Estate however Tohme is objecting his case to be transferred to probate court so before any hearing about MJ Estate complaint starts he's asking the judge to hear his motion to transfer the case back to the civil court or ask the court to give him time to respond to the claims in MJ Estate complaint.

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BP117321 306 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr
PROBATE - OTHER

Petitioner(s): Tohme, Tohme R., Dr.

Attorney(s): Malingagio, Paul S., Esq.

Continuance Number: 1 Continuance From: Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Last Date Changed: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:58:33 AM

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PRIOR ORDER: Cont to 4/12/12

filed 3/8/12 - ex parte ok to file and set for

SUMMARY
Petnr is creditor
ATTY DECL FILED 3/8/12 - copy of civil action & probate petn attached

FACTS -
When it became clear that the personal representatives of the Jackson Estate were not going to resolve Petnr's meritorious claims, Petnr exercised his right to file a civil action for breach of contract and declaratory relief, seeking the just compensation as Jackson's manager to which he is entitled. On 2/1712, Petnr filed a civil action against the personal representatives of the Jackson Estate in the Superior Court, West District, Case No. SC 115988. On the same day, the Jackson Estate filed a Petition for Accounting, etc. against Petnr in the Jackson Estate probate proceeding, raising substantially the same issues as are raised in Petnr's Civil Lawsuit. Petnr's Civil Lawsuit was filed and served first and, pursuant to Probate Code Section 854, the Probate Petition should be abated so that the dispute between the parties may be resolved in the Civil Lawsuit.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED - N/A
*********************************
OBJECTIONS FILED 3/8/12
OBJECTORS: JOHN BRANCA AND JOHN MCCLAIN
ATTYS: HOWARD WEITZMAN, ZIA MODABBER, JERYLL COHEN
*********************************
SUMMARY-OBJS
Objectors are co-extrs

FACTS-OBJS
There is no emergency requiring ex parte relief and Petnr has delayed bringing this application; Probate Code Section 854 is not applicable to this action. Probate Code Section 854 states:
"If a civil action is pending with respect to the subject matter of a petition filed pursuant to this chapter and jurisdiction has been obtained in the court where the civil action is pending prior to the filing of the petition, upon request of any party to the civil action, the court shall abate the petition until the conclusion of the civil action. This section shall not apply if the court finds that the civil action was filed for the purpose of delay."
Section 854 relief is not available here because (1) the Santa Monica Action was not pending at the time this petition was filed - this action was filed on the same day as the Santa Monica Action; (2) the Court in Santa Monica did not acquire jurisdiction prior to this action
being filed because it was not served on objectors until February 21, 2012; and (3) this action does not involve the identical "subject matter" as the Santa Monica Action. Petnr incorrectly contends that this action involves the same subject matter as the Santa Monica Action. Objectors are seeking an accounting from Petnr and allege in their First Cause of Action on information and belief that "Petnr, through his position as trusted advisor and fiduciary, took control and possession of Jackson's assets and wrongfully diverted and/or spent Jackson's funds and property for his own benefit, including for payment of Petnr's personal expenses, travel and entertainment. The amount that Respondent collected and disbursed is unknown to Executors and cannot be ascertained without an accounting. Objectors' Second and Third Causes of Action seek recovery of specific recovery that Petitioners are informed and believe that Petnr wrongfully took from Jackson. In contrast, according to Petnr, the Santa Monica Action involves Petnr's "contract claims against the Jackson Estate arising from three written agreements he had with Michael Jackson." Although there are some claims and allegations that overlap between this action and the Santa Monica Action, the only claims in this action that exclusively involve Probate Code Section 850 are Petitioners' First to Third Causes of Action, which are not at issue in the Santa Monica Action. In fact, the remedies provided by Probate Code Section 850 et seq. are not available in the non-probate court in Santa Monica. Thus, abating this action would materially impair Petitioners' ability to obtain an accounting and return of property by delaying these claim for at least over a year, or even more. Accordingly, it cannot be said that the two cases involve the same subject matter. Section 854 is therefore inapplicable and Petnr's application should be denied.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED-OBJS - N/A

RELIEF
1. JTD order that the Jackson Estate's Probate Petition should be abated pending the outcome of Petnr's Civil Lawsuit;
2. JTD for a continuance of Petnr's obligation to respond to the Probate Petition until after this application for abatement may be heard
3. JTD OBJECTIONS - deny petn - Prob C Section 854 is not applicable

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WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)

Petitioner(s): Branca, John McClain, John

Attorney(s): Weitzman, Howard, Esq

Continuance Number: 1 Continuance From: Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Last Date Changed: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:59:13 AM

PRIOR ORDER: Cont to 4/12/12
Filed 2/17/12

SUMMARY
Petnrs are co-extrs
ntc/copy to affected parties filed 2/28/12
spec ntc/copy filed 2/28/12

FACTS -
After being hired by Michael Jackson as his Personal Manager in early 2008, Respondent Tohme took control of virtually all of Jackson's personal and professional affairs, then did as he pleased. With no oversight or supervision, Tohme quickly set about to and did install a far-reaching and very lucrative financial package for himself obtained as a result of a manifest breach of his fiduciary duties. The package consisted of a series of agreements that were obtained without any arms length negotiations, and without Jackson having independent legal counsel or giving informed consent, and not surprisingly called for substantial and unfair financial compensation to Tohme. Left unchecked until he was terminated in or about March 2009 (but no later than April 14, 2009), Tohme used his powers as Jackson's fiduciary and agent to take possession of both money and valuable personal property belonging to Jackson that he never returned to Jackson or the Executors, or property accounted for. By this Petition, the Executors seek to undo the harm suffered by Jackson as a result of Tohme's breaches of fiduciary duty, obtain an accounting of all money, property and material entrusted to or taken by Tohme during his tenure and recover all money, property and other material belonging to the Estate. Alleges causes of action for wrongful taking, recission based on breach of fiduciary duty, unconscionability, undue influence, and for declaratory relief set forth below.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED - N/A

********************************************
OBJECTIONS FILED 3/21/12
OBJECTOR: Tohme R. Tohme
ATTORNEY: Paul S. Malingagio
********************************************
SUMMARY-OBJS
Objector is creditor/claimant
svd 3/21/12

FACTS-OBJS
With Tohme's application for abatement and for an extension of time in which to respond to the Petition pending and is set to be heard on March 28, Tohme will reserve any further response to the Petition until after the court considers and rules on his application for an extension of time to respond to the Petition and/or his motion for abatement of the Petition pursuant to Probate Code Section 854. Tohme expressly reserves his right and ability to seek abatement of the Petition and, if ultimately necessary, to substantively respond to the Petition with a demurrer, a denial or other appropriate responsive pleading. Before this Petition was filed, prior to 9:00 a.m. on 2/17/12,
Tohme filed a complaint in the Superior Court against the Jackson Estate, asserting claims for breach of contract and declaratory relief regarding the very same contracts which are the subject of the Jackson Estate's Petition herein. Among other things, Tohme's Civil Action alleges that he is entitled to compensation pursuant to a Finder's Agreement for his services in locating financing to prevent the foreclosure of Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch real property and Michael Jackson's personal property. In addition, Tohme's Civil Action seeks compensation pursuant to a Services Agreement with Michael Jackson through which Tohme provided services as Michael Jackson's manager for a period of more than one year. Tohme was forced to file the Civil Action because the Jackson Estate refused to pay him, or even offer to pay him, any of the amounts to which he is entitled under these agreements. The Jackson Estate's Petition in this court clearly was filed as a "defensive" measure to the claims asserted in Tohme's Civil Action. The Petition alleges, inter alia, that the Finder's Agreement and Services Agreement are not enforceable, and that Tohme is not entitled to any compensation whatsoever for his work and services, for a variety of reasons, including that Michael Jackson allegedly "did not know what he was signing." The Petition is meritless and nothing more than an attempt by the Jackson Estate to further delay payment of the sums to which Tohme is rightfully entitled.

MATTERS TO BE CLEARED-OBJS - N/A

RELIEF
1. JTD order compelling Tohme to account for all monies and other property of Jackson's in his possession and control at any time, all monies and property of Jackson's misappropriated by Tohme, and all actions and transactions taken by Tohme with respect to Jackson's assets
2. JTD order directing Tohme to transfer, convey and deliver to the Executors all monies and other property belonging to Jackson or the Estate which he has in his possession or control
3. JTD for an award against Tohme in favor of the Estate in the amount of twice the value of all property wrongfully taken by Tohme
4. JTD for damages in an amount to be determined at trial, according to proof and for punitive damages
5. JTD for rescission of the Services Agreement, Finder Agreement and Indemnity Agreement and of any obligation thereunder to pay money to Tohme and for an order of restitution of any money or thing owing
6. JTD for rescission of the Services Agreement, Finder Agreement and Indemnity Agreement and of any obligation thereunder to pay money to Tohme and for an order of restitution of any money or thing owing
7. JTD for rescission of the Services Agreement, Finder Agreement and Indemnity Agreement and of any obligation thereunder to pay money to Tohme and for an order of restitution of any money or thing owing
8. JTD (a) Tohme is not entitled to commission any monies "received by" Jackson after Tohme was terminated (and certainly not on monies received after Jackson's death), (b) Tohme's "Services Agreement" is void or otherwise entitles him to no additional money, and (c) The Finder's Agreement entitles him to no further compensation and is void.
9. JTD for damages
10. JTD for interest on all amounts at the maximum legal rate,
11. JTD for an order imposing a constructive trust on all property wrongfully taken, concealed or disposed of by Tohme and all property traceable to property wrongfully taken, concealed or disposed of by Tohme
12. JTD for attorneys' fees and costs of suit incurred herein
13. JTD OBJECTIONS - Tohme will reserve any further response to the Petition until after the court considers and rules on his
application for an extension of time to respond to the Petition and/or his motion for abatement of the Petition pursuant to Probate Code Section 854. Tohme expressly reserves his right and ability to seek abatement of the Petition and, if ultimately necessary, to substantively respond to the Petition with a demurrer, a denial or other appropriate responsive pleading.
 
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@Ivy, do you have any more info about the personal property they are talking about?

"Tohme used his powers as Jackson's fiduciary and agent to take possession of both money and valuable personal property belonging to Jackson that he never returned to Jackson or the Executors, or property accounted for. By this Petition, the Executors seek to undo the harm suffered by Jackson as a result of Tohme's breaches of fiduciary duty, obtain an accounting of all money, property and material entrusted to or taken by Tohme during his tenure and recover all money, property and other material belonging to the Estate."


There is one article about Tohme and Raffles are driving around in Michael's Bentley
http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/raffles-van-exel-connected-to-gay-mafia/
I don't know if that Jasper man is reliable source, but at least that car thing could be true?
So if true, could Bentley be one part of personal property that estate is after?
 
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No, the documents does not list the personal property
 
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I'm trying not to appear too eager to hear news about this case, but any news:)
Today is the court day.
 
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I'm trying not to appear too eager to hear news about this case, but any news:)
Today is the court day.

Yes, that's what I want to know too. It should be going on right now. And doesn't anyone think its' really peculiar that TMZ is reporting nothing about this? But then again, why would they? Raffles is buds with Harvey Levin. He's one of TMZ's biggest informers. TMZ doesn't want to draw any attention to Raffles right now.

TMZ would report on ANY court proceedings involving MJ... and they are totally ignoring this.
 
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Whats raffles gotta do with this. nothing tmk.
 
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Whats raffles gotta do with this. nothing tmk.

The reason I brought up Raffles in this story, is because he appears to be involved in this story. He has recently been seen driving Tohme around in Michael's Bentley, as reported on this website... who has also posted a copy of the suit papers against Tohme.

http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/dr-tohme-tohmes-extortion-of-michael-jackson-exposed/

And Tohme has apparently offered to share his home with Raffles. http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/who-is-dr-thome-raffles-van-exel-connection/

I have no idea how accurate all this is... but if true, it's interesting that Tohme would be involved with this guy. And that's why I think TMZ is not reporting on this Tohme lawsuit right now.
 
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Yes, that's what I want to know too. It should be going on right now. And doesn't anyone think its' really peculiar that TMZ is reporting nothing about this? But then again, why would they? Raffles is buds with Harvey Levin. He's one of TMZ's biggest informers. TMZ doesn't want to draw any attention to Raffles right now.

TMZ would report on ANY court proceedings involving MJ... and they are totally ignoring this.
 
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There has been at least few times that TMZ doesn't post anything from court proceedings. I don't know what happened in the court, they could have scheduled another date if nothing came out of yesterday hearing? That in no worth of reporting, even in TMZ.


Elusive, Raffles has nothing to do with this case, but there is a post above that says he and Tohme are buddies and driving around with MJ's Bentley.

Maybe nothing happened yesterday in court, as you said. But usually, TMZ would report the suit (and post the suit papers), even before the court date... especially if it involves MJ. I just thought it was suspicious that they have said nothing. The rumor is that Harvey Levin and Raffles go way back together and Raffles has given (or should I say sold) Harvey and TMZ a TON of celebrity info. And since Raffles is in the HOT SEAT right now with the whole Whitney investigation, supposedly being her drug runner, etc.... I just suspect TMZ is trying to avoid reporting on anything that could bring any more attention to Raffles. And the situation with Tohme right now gives attention to Raffles... being that Raffles is being seen driving around in Michael's Bentley that Tohme is letting him use.

What a bunch of shady creeps is all I can say. All I can say is I hope the Estate nails Tohme.
 
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TMZ doesn`t give a update from the case. They only made a headline in February when the Estate sues Tohme and Tohme makes his counter-suit. Since then TMZ or the other press doesn`t give us a update. We have all information since then and the court papers from Ivy and Marc Vivien.
 
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Raffles is being seen driving around in Michael's Bentley that Tohme is letting him use.

What a bunch of shady creeps is all I can say. All I can say is I hope the Estate nails Tohme.

I agree with you about creeps. The nerve of Tohme to drive around with MJ's car,if that story about MJ's Bentley is true!
If it is true, it makes me think what else he has, and what Michael's stuff has he already distributed to someone else or hiding!
Fingers crossed that the estate has a good case against him.
 
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Im not inclined to believe some random blog that anyone could write unless theres some evidence to back it up.i dont care for raffles but someone seems to have an issue with him. tmz only report major court happenings. civil Court cases have many hearings before the actual trial. and these are hardly reported on cause for the most part theres nothing juicy to report on
 
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I don't believe for one second that raffles is in anyway connected with thome - it's just some obscure blog has come up with some story of seeing them together (i guarantee he has no photo evidence). It's clearly the media's agenda to connect a sleazy character like raffles with mj to further denigrate him with drug (and according to that ridiculous post in the news thread, gay mafia) rumours. It's annoying if mj fans are picking up on it. Raffles has nothing to do with mj, he just gate crashed his bday party one year and been living off that anecdote ever since.
 
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Matter continued, there's another hearing set for April 30th.


04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
PROBATE - OTHER - Matter continued

04/12/2012 at 10:00 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859) - Matter continued

04/30/2012 at 08:30 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
PROBATE - OTHER

04/30/2012 at 08:30 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
WRONGFULLY TAKEN PROPERTY (PC 859)
 
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