Michael - The Official New Album - Out December 14th - General Discussion Thread

Which tracks are you most looking forward to hearing in full/Want on Album!

  • All I Need

    Votes: 13 14.0%
  • Carry On

    Votes: 16 17.2%
  • Breaking News

    Votes: 11 11.8%
  • Monster

    Votes: 13 14.0%
  • Much Too Soon

    Votes: 66 71.0%
  • Do You Know Where Your Children Are

    Votes: 68 73.1%
  • Another Day

    Votes: 76 81.7%
  • Hold My Hand

    Votes: 54 58.1%
  • A Place With No Name

    Votes: 65 69.9%
  • Love Never Felt So Good

    Votes: 34 36.6%
  • Blue Gangsta

    Votes: 57 61.3%

  • Total voters
    93
Re: The Official New Album Thread -"Breaking News" Announcement Page 464

It's about time someone came out with an official statement. Something should have come out by now.



Well I just got the email from Sony that "Breaking News" is now on michaeljackson.com.
 
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Maybe that Will.I.Am was on to something...
 
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John Mcclain is behind all this sssshhiittt...

Watch the interview from Teddy Riley!!!


We really need to ACT, REALLY QUICK!!!

People tell Teddy Riley what to say and what not to say. His tweets hours ago was just a PR move.

In this interview, especially towards the end, he looks off to the side a lot at someone else while he says specific things about Michael. And by his hand gripped on the table, his other hand clenched, he was darn nervous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3kfx1CeH0
 
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They don't want to hire a specialist for his murder. Why would they do that?

They don't care about him one bit. They just care about making $$$ off him.

Has Gaz made a statement on this?

Yes exactly. Why would they do this? They are not the police. They are a business. That statement doesn't even make sense.

The family isn't hiring a specialist either. Why? Why do they keep saying they will leave it up to the police? Because that is who needs to do their jobs. Sony's job is to make sure the music is authentic. If you want ot discuss this, please do. But please stop with all of these sidebars against Sony. And all of this stuff about Motolla being the gatekeeper. This is purposely spreading things that are not true and this was already explained to you earlier in this thread.

Please take this conspiracy talk to the Conspiracy section. This is not about who you feel is telling Teddy what when you have no proof of it.
 
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they must remove this track.we must act
 
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its not about if its Michael or not anymore, now is about removing this track. Even if we get proofs that IT IS Michael this song will still be unnacceptable (talkin about controversy)

Exactly, like many have pointed out, Michael's vocal is in part of the song. So, it's partly Michael. But, this song simply evolved from a rough demo. They tried to strech an unreleasable demo to death. The quality of this song is not what we are expecting.

This Is It, the song, received mixed review. But, This Is It is a Michael Jackson song. No doubt. Breaking News is hardly a Michael Jackson song.

Again, why put Breaking News on the website? It really gets people to wonder what happened. The whole thing doesn't make sense. There must be better releasable songs in the vault. Must be. We are talking about the most expensive recording deal...

Someone tells me this is a nightmare. This is not real...
 
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Now I am afraid they have ruined other tracks. Maybe that is why will.i.am got pissed off a couple months ago.

*Instead of trying to sound "current", they should just release the best they have, untouched.*
 
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The family isn't hiring a specialist either. Why? Why do they keep saying they will leave it up to the police? Because that is who needs to do their jobs. Sony's job is to make sure the music is authentic. If you want ot discuss this, please do. But please stop with all of these sidebars against Sony. And all of this stuff about Motolla being the gatekeeper. This is purposely spreading things that are not true and this was already explained to you earlier in this thread.

But Motolla IS the gatekeeper of Michael's unreleased songs right now. I can post the interview where he agrees that he is. In fact, I will. It's at the very beginning.

 
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its not about if its Michael or not anymore, now is about removing this track. Even if we get proofs that IT IS Michael this song will still be unnacceptable (talkin about controversy)

Have to agree with this statement: "Breaking News" has well and truly been tarnished in my eyes now - I don't know if I'll ever be able to accept it as an MJ track after the disappointment and farcical confusion of today.

It's all just so upsetting - EVERY fan on this board was so psyched for this stream to go live, this was IT, the first UNRELEASED track from our idol after the tragedy, the first unreleased music from his first new album for nearly a DECADE... and within one line of my first listen I was like WTF???!!!

There is just far too much doubt, controversy and suspicion surrounding this collossal MESS for Sony not to address the widespread concerns - how they can recover from this without scrapping Breaking News or proving EVERYONE wrong in their audio analysis is beyond me... "This Is It" may very well have been a demo from the vault, but not a single fan doubted that it wasn't MICHAEL singing lead vocals.

Surely this will damage sales? How can they remain silent in the face of such chaos??!
 
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I listen it over and over again and I don't like it. That's not Michael!
What can we do to remove that song from the Album?
 
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But Motolla IS the gatekeeper of Michael's unreleased songs right now. I can post the interview where he agrees that he is. In fact, I will. It's at the very beginning.

Kasume dear, this was already discussed before and explained. Furthermore, this is not the place for it. That's all I am saying.
 
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Actually I don't know what to think about it being MJ or not. I do think that its a demo. No really ad libs, and very strong editing and a few copy and paste esp. Hee:s and Hooo:s. The track lacks of Michael personality and would very likely not sound like this if he where here. It's more a boy band-ish kind of production that any top modern producer could produce any time of the day. Catchy but not realy strong. A demo heavely polished alot added to the finishing product. Kind of cheap production IMO.
 
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If you don't want me to bring up here, then okay.

But 'Tommy as gatekeeper of Michael's unreleased music' wasn't something that interviewer just came up with himself at that moment.
 
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Listen to Teddy Riley's interview please, he is right about not letting him do a proper job on the songs! He is ready to go to court and clarify this mess!
 
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We all have been spoiled by the fact that Michael use to sing his own
background vocals on many different tracks, and before the end product he would combine them all together.
Well, now, we must train our ears to accept that sometimes other singers will be singing in the background of a Michael Jackson song.
 
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Listen to Teddy Riley's interview please, he is right about not letting him do a proper job on the songs! He is ready to go to court and clarify this mess!

What interview? :bugeyed
 
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A question for the people in UK : How is the new Take That single, is it good enough for the Christmas number 1.

and please stop mottola and conspiracy theories - there are other threads for that. This is where we discuss the new album.
 
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A question for the people in UK : How is the new Take That single, is it good enough for the Christmas number 1.

and please stop mottola and conspiracy theories - there are other threads for that. This is where we discuss the new album.

from what they did to Breaking News, I don't even care about the other songs they plan to give us.

If we don't do something NOW, then they will do this again in the future!

what do you think about this breaking news song, ivy?
 
I think we need one of our members who is in contact with Sony or the Estate to post something about this.

We need to get this song taken down, then removed from the album. As well as any other fake songs from the album.
 
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A question for the people in UK : How is the new Take That single, is it good enough for the Christmas number 1.

and please stop mottola and conspiracy theories - there are other threads for that. This is where we discuss the new album.

I'm not a fan so don't like it. But the Xmas number one means nothing when the last four out of five xmas number one have been the X Factor's winners singles. Don't know if HMH will be released that time though.
 
If this song is not taken off the album, I will not buy it. And I will tell all my other friends not to buy it either.

I don't feel Michael in that song, or not enough.

Has anyone heard this song? Michael was working on it before June 2009 for his album he was going to release. This isn't even Michael singing his song, but you can FEEL him 1000%.... Something is definately wrong when i can feel michael more in this song than in Breaking News.



And I'm sure I'm not the only one that could feel Micaehl more in Martha singing cry than breaking news.
 
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what do you think about this breaking news song, ivy?

from my personal fan perspective : I'm torn. Some parts sound like Michael some don't. But I don't have the musical ear to make a decent comparison and come to an acceptable determination. I cannot personally say without doubt "this is Michael" or "this is not Michael" - therefore I'm torn like I said.

from a logical perspective : I think that the vocals must be real or it would not make sense.

and this is why (as I posted on the breaking news thread)

Today I got several PM's asking me about any legal consequences. And it got me to think from a logical perspective.

The most famous case we know in the history is "Milli Vanilli" and their record company (Arista) has been sued several times under customer fraud protection act (in USA). They were made to pay from a few dollars to the full purchase price of the album to the customers/fans due to these lawsuits.

Of course we need to check the US state and even international laws for the details and how this laws applies on a location basis but the Milli Vanilli example basically demonstrates to us that they could be sued if they participated in such a fraud and be held financially responsible.

Then the question becomes would they do such thing? First of all, this brings a doubt on not only "Michael" album but any future release that will come from Sony - which means that they must be sabotaging their own deal with the estate that they paid $250M. Secondly with any legal consequences they are risking to refund all or part of the sales revenues.

It simply doesn't make sense that Sony would do something that could potentially hurt them more than $250M in the long run - the same is true for the estate.

(I know some people claim or would claim that "Evil Sony is destroying Michael" but actual evil attempt would require them to destroy Michael without destroying themselves otherwise it's plain stupid)

Also we know that from 3T's tweets it's not all of the songs that there's a doubt against - it's just Cascio tracks. Therefore in my opinion it would be much more easier, less messy and less risky to not include the Cascio tracks in the first place.

Then why did they include and release this song?

Perhaps for the controversy? Who knows? They got everyone talking about the song and the album didn't they? Does this work to their advantage or not? We'll see.

Again from a logical perspective I tend to think that even at a worse case scenario (meaning lawsuit(s)) , Sony has enough to prove that it's Michael's vocals. Of course I'm not saying that the vocals aren't enhanced and that there aren't supplemental vocals added- most probably all of those are done but from a logical and legal perspective Michael's vocals should be on the song.

Again this is a logical perspective without any musical comparisons.
 
If this song isn't taken off the album, it will lose out on millions of sales, including me.
 
This song has not even been officially declared that it is on the album, im still going with this is a huge Publicity Stunt and we are indeed being played.

Im sure if the standard of songs on new album are as the leaked snippets then we have nothing to worry about.

Terry
 
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