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Michael - The Great Album Debate

kopwatcher said:
Tracklist of the next album:

1. Weee
2. Burn Tonight
3. Fist In My Ear
4. I Love To Tour
5. Water
6. Black Widow
7. Bathe In The Moonlight
8. L. O. V. E.
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You forgot 'Little More Booty' (co-written by Michael Bearden).
 
Oh, and....My avatar is actually the next single's cover for: I Just Took A Shower (And Washed My Hair Thoroughly)
 
Arklove said:
Oh, and....My avatar is actually the next single's cover for: I Just Took A Shower (And Washed My Hair Thoroughly)
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We need more gifs in this thread:

michaelJUSTtookashower.gif
 
This song was written by James Porte and Luther Vandross. Notice the similar lyrics to Stay: "I was standing in the rain."/"I'll be standing in the rain."

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ADKIc3mAnX said:
I heard many unreleased songs.

Since they are stolen songs and since the leak can ruin sales for example Hold My Hand did not hit #1 on the Billboard 200 due to the leak I'm against leaks but like everyone else I enjoy the song.
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Honestly, I have no issue with leaks. Contrary to popular relief, leaks don't drive down sales. In this day and age, singles and even a whole album are almost always leaked before official release. Madonna's new single was leaked months in advance.

HMH didn't become #1 was not completely because of it being leaked. It's heard only within fan community. The general public was not aware of the song. HMH was not sufficiently promoted.

I asked whether you have heard BG, DYKWYCA and STTR and whether you have problem in commenting on them because the above mentioned songs are stolen songs as well. So, if people do not mind commenting on how much they enjoy them, they should have no problem in commenting on the Cascio tracks. If they have problem in commenting on the Cascio tracks, but not STTR, then the issue is not the way the songs are obtained, but something else.
 
love is magical said:
Don't know James Porte collaborated with Luther Vandross. The song is nice. Not Dancing With My Father, but still a good song.
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True. Well James Porte seems to have given up on the songwriting/singing career and now runs a company called Green Ant Music who provide sound effect libraries for movies etc. He runs it out of his house. Same place where his publishing company, Ghost Manor Music, is run from.
 
StellaJackson said:
I see your point but let me explain. Sony purchased the songs via a deal that was brokered between Eddie Cascio and Frank Dileo. They saw no reason to doubt either party. This purchase happened sometime in the summer. It wasn't until much later (October) that things started to kick off when someone identified Jason Cupeta as the possible vocalist. It is not known who it was that first suggested Jason as a possibility. This is what caused John Branca to contact Thad Nauden who represents Jason on the 18th October. Obviously the purpose of this call was to ask if Jason had been involved and clearly Nauden denied it. Nauden received another call (possibly from Howard Weitzemann) on the following day. And then, on October 20th, Nauden was contacted by the VP of Marketing and A & R for Sony Music.

That phone call appears to be all that Sony did to investigate the songs. There is no proof that any so called tests ever took place, and if they did, then the people doing the tests would have been paid by Sony. Without more information those tests are completely irrelevant.
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I agree with what you are saying (especially the last paragraph), but it just seems to me that Sony played a part in it. We definately don't have proof that the tests ever took place. However, Sony's threatening actions over the past year makes it seem like they're taking extra strides to hide things. And the one that pasted together those vocals had to get the acapellas from somewhere. And that they chose Breaking News to be the debut single. It all just seems suspicious.

Of course, it's all just speculation.
 
MusicMan26 said:
I agree with what you are saying (especially the last paragraph), but it just seems to me that Sony played a part in it. We definately don't have proof that the tests ever took place. However, Sony's threatening actions over the past year makes it seem like they're taking extra strides to hide things. And the one that pasted together those vocals had to get the acapellas from somewhere. And that they chose Breaking News to be the debut single. It all just seems suspicious.

Of course, it's all just speculation.
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I would say Sony's actions now are based on damage control. The thing with the pasted words is that they all come from the same song. It's not impossible that Eddie had access to the acapella somehow. If it wasn't him then it had to be someone in between him and Teddy Riley. But who?
 
Chamife said:
That action of his in TII was that of an experienced artist, who knew how to capture/impress/play his audience. I'm pretty sure he didn't had the song Burn Tonight in mind.
The Cascio singer doesn't refer to a jacket when he sings: 'We can make it burn tonight".




Hope it's a temporary thing, because, although Michael is one of the best, there are many other great artists which can give you a lot of joy listening to...:chillin: And Michael himself also didn't limit himself to only one artist or genre. He listened to a lot of different artists and styles.
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Well it's been like 10 years MJ only so yeah I'm not gonna stop now.
 
love is magical said:
Honestly, I have no issue with leaks. Contrary to popular relief, leaks don't drive down sales. In this day and age, singles and even a whole album are almost always leaked before official release. Madonna's new single was leaked months in advance.

HMH didn't become #1 was not completely because of it being leaked. It's heard only within fan community. The general public was not aware of the song. HMH was not sufficiently promoted.

I asked whether you have heard BG, DYKWYCA and STTR and whether you have problem in commenting on them because the above mentioned songs are stolen songs as well. So, if people do not mind commenting on how much they enjoy them, they should have no problem in commenting on the Cascio tracks. If they have problem in commenting on the Cascio tracks, but not STTR, then the issue is not the way the songs are obtained, but something else.
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Can you please write the titles of the songs ?
 
Guys ive discovered some Michael Jackson songs he recorded in my basement in 2007. They are killer tracks.

1. I took a wee (in the middle of the night)
2. Bread, A dozen eggs, butter, sugar and flour.
3. $17.37
4. How to pay (Electric Bills)
5. Let me let go (so i can be the runner up)
6. Sunday Mass ft. Father John
7. I sat down (and turned on the tv) ft. Justin Beaver
8. 1 sheep, 2 sheep, 3 sheep, 4
9. Button Pusher ft. Eddie Cascio
10. Scream ft. Janet Jackson and Teddy Reily
11. Veoom vromomomomom ft. Lawn Mower
12. The Goat boy ft. Jason Malachi
 
SoCav said:
Sure was! Rumour has it that 'Weeee' is the lead single of the next album.
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OMG. i'm dead. that was hi-larious!

StellaJackson said:
I would say Sony's actions now are based on damage control.
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see, THATS my problem though. I could totally jump on board with the "sony didn't know it wasn't mj" thing. That's fine, people make mistakes. obviously someone committed fraud here, but it's hard to say exactly who knew what.

what is NOT OK is that after this hit, and after they realized what happened, they did nothing. that's the problem. they didn't even bother to pull the songs after the initial BN stream. they could have. ok, but they put them on the cd anyway, and then there was an even BIGGER backlash, still raging a year later. then what? no apology, no admittance of wrongdoing, no refund, no nothing. they know what happened. they're not stupidI know it's kind of polyanna-idealistic to think they would have tried to make it right, but god i wish it had.

but it goes a step further--not ONLY did they not admit what happened, not ONLY did they try to sweep it under the rug like it never happened--they continue to try to cram it in our face. It's like it wasn't enough. they won't stop. putting monster in cirque (thank god it was removed, but even then, not completely) the rumored monster performance on the upcoming Glee episode, the fact that they STILL registered the rest of those tracks as "michael jackson" in BMI months and months later.

My problem is the continued dissrespect for us and for michael's real music. it's disgusting it honestly makes me furious. I hate it so so much. i want them to stop, to admit what happened, and to never do this again. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
kopwatcher said:
Also,

MJ = Michael Jackson
KOP = King Of Pop
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Also:


PYT = Pretty Young Thing
TLC = Tender Love Care
D.S. = Tom Sneddon
BLT = Bacon Lettuce Tomato
UN = United Nations
U.S.A. = United States of America
E.U. = European Union
U.K. = United Kingdom
 
StellaJackson said:
This song was written by James Porte and Luther Vandross. Notice the similar lyrics to Stay: "I was standing in the rain."/"I'll be standing in the rain."

[youtube]enPVvEhCPdw[/youtube]
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I was standing in the rain makes sense in the context of the song, I'll be standing in the rain, case you etc, etc....doesn't.

ADKIc3mAnX said:
Well it's been like 10 years MJ only so yeah I'm not gonna stop now.
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Ok, there are worse habits, lol.
 
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From 5 Logical Fallacies That Make You More Wrong Than You Think:

#1. Facts Don't Change Our Minds


That is why confirmation bias exists. We read a news article that supports what we believe, and we add it to the "I'm right about this" column. News articles that contradict what we believe are dismissed. We make up a reason -- maybe the source is part of the conspiracy from the other side or whatever it takes to make sure the "I'm wrong about this" column remains empty.

Researchers have done experiments where they hooked up people's brains to scanners and then made them read a story pointing out something stupid their favorite candidate said. The logical parts of the brain stayed quiet, while the emotional parts of the brain lit up. Their brains were weighing the story, not based on what it logically meant for their position, but on the emotional/social consequences of that position being wrong.

Then, once the brain had decided that this news story being right would mean pain and humiliation for the reader, it told the logical part, "Figure out a way to use your 'logic' stuff to make this pain go away." The next day, you probably heard those test subjects at the coffee shop going on and on about how biased the press is against their guy.
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http://www.cracked.com/article_1946...at-make-you-wrong-more-than-you-think_p2.html

It all seems so familiar.
 
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