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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
I have to make a confession... noooo it's not me singing on the Cascio tracks and no me is not Jason Malachi or any other strange guy profiting from trying to be someone else.
My confession is, I'm a psychologist.
Ok now why am I telling you this.
simply because I learned how to prove what ppl think is not to prove. Theoretical that is always possible... in reality it is often not as research is limited in material and most of all money.
However if you want to prove it's Michael Jackson in these songs... then it's simply not enough to put just a very few voices against the doubt it's him of ppl telling it's him.
No the agreement first has to be, ok how will even the biggest doubter believe what we think is the truth. You find that in the way that you ask them and offer them possibilities.
To make that more clear... one setting could be you get a huge sample of (maybe 500 fans from all over the world, all of them minimum 10 years of fandom each... well that's a huge sample for research
)MJJfans let them hear the song and ask them if it's Michael they hear. And you say BEFORE ok if we minimum reach a number (let's say of more than) 75% saying yes it's him then it's proven. Oh and of cuz you'll still have ppl doubting it but the percentage of those will be then less than 10 probably.
However there's no real interest for that here.
Sony and the estate calculated different with or without knowing the Jacksons would attack the album.
But those are businessmen. They are not interested in the fans (btw I also don't think the Jacksons are more interested in fans). They are all interested in money only.
They've numbered their success with a certain number and they'll measure it by reaching it or even not. If the last option will come true maybe one or two will lose their jobs or simply not have a real career anymore but then that's it. But it's also possible they've calculated all this in because it does bring them a lot of plus and not really payed for attention/promotion/money. However... the lack of additional promotion is telling me they didn't go really for a number one album - although worldwide it was on one- ... however I have a feeling they are just satisfied with what they've put in and what they got out... and yep get ready maybe they'll do something like that even again.
The estate and/or Sony simply missed to have some real proof in the background... that would have been really easily done for a company like Sony to just play a number of songs to Michael Jackson fans (long before binging them out or nooo wait it's call LEAKING them lol) they could have presented that result to fans then... however instead they've chosen some ppl not really independent from them, future work for them in mind probably etc.... well that just is not very convincing to ppl who don't believe it's Michael Jackson singing.
So I do understand ppl not believing it's Michael...
even more since there appeared family statements that the kids said they do not hear Michael on there too.
Well honestly I have a hard time recognizing him on there too if I do lol... however my opinion is not the point here.
Ok then we do have ppl believing it's Michael Jackson singing there.
Because it's told it's him by several ppl who worked with Michael and who knew him... they have a point there.
Both sides do have strong points.
But honestly from my own researching and often proving heart... there's no solution to this anymore. There's hardly anyone found anymore who has not made up their mind already. Opinions are often enough the worst enemy of some true research and some real proving results... cuz even me (and I studied only 2 and a half years of statistics) could manipulate every statistic the way I want it to lead to a certain wished result... however someone as educated in statistics would find out about that probably lol. Anyways back to the point... even a court couldn't find more proof in this... there's no proof beyond reasonable doubt possible anymore since Michael is not here anymore and every other person who might sung there or even not like Jason Malachi for example could always stay silent as even a court couldn't pressure him to confess fraud... plus he'd lose probably all support from the ppl supporting him now business wise... so please, ask yourself if you should really wait for that... if that is a real possibility.
My mind tells me there will never be anyone proving anything in this as ppl are profiting the way it is now the most... just not we the fans.
For anyone who says they are working for keeping Michaels legacy that's ashame if they really know the connection Michael always had to us.
Let's just hope they will learn from this... and they are not non carring only greedy assholes.
However we the fans will not find only one valid answer to if it's Michael singing or not... that's as sad as stupid reality for now.
But thanks God we had a good example in Michael about tolerance. If you want the freedom of having an opinion you can have it only if you give that very same freedom to other ppl and let them have a different opinion at times... you can still live with them, you can still love them... it's just a different opinion. Do what your heart is telling you and let others follow a different path at times... it's no drama... it's just wonderful colorful life! lol
sorry for the long post lol couldn't keep inside what some responses made me think.
I have to make a confession... noooo it's not me singing on the Cascio tracks and no me is not Jason Malachi or any other strange guy profiting from trying to be someone else.
My confession is, I'm a psychologist.
Ok now why am I telling you this.
simply because I learned how to prove what ppl think is not to prove. Theoretical that is always possible... in reality it is often not as research is limited in material and most of all money.
However if you want to prove it's Michael Jackson in these songs... then it's simply not enough to put just a very few voices against the doubt it's him of ppl telling it's him.
No the agreement first has to be, ok how will even the biggest doubter believe what we think is the truth. You find that in the way that you ask them and offer them possibilities.
To make that more clear... one setting could be you get a huge sample of (maybe 500 fans from all over the world, all of them minimum 10 years of fandom each... well that's a huge sample for research
)MJJfans let them hear the song and ask them if it's Michael they hear. And you say BEFORE ok if we minimum reach a number (let's say of more than) 75% saying yes it's him then it's proven. Oh and of cuz you'll still have ppl doubting it but the percentage of those will be then less than 10 probably.However there's no real interest for that here.
Sony and the estate calculated different with or without knowing the Jacksons would attack the album.
But those are businessmen. They are not interested in the fans (btw I also don't think the Jacksons are more interested in fans). They are all interested in money only.
They've numbered their success with a certain number and they'll measure it by reaching it or even not. If the last option will come true maybe one or two will lose their jobs or simply not have a real career anymore but then that's it. But it's also possible they've calculated all this in because it does bring them a lot of plus and not really payed for attention/promotion/money. However... the lack of additional promotion is telling me they didn't go really for a number one album - although worldwide it was on one- ... however I have a feeling they are just satisfied with what they've put in and what they got out... and yep get ready maybe they'll do something like that even again.
The estate and/or Sony simply missed to have some real proof in the background... that would have been really easily done for a company like Sony to just play a number of songs to Michael Jackson fans (long before binging them out or nooo wait it's call LEAKING them lol) they could have presented that result to fans then... however instead they've chosen some ppl not really independent from them, future work for them in mind probably etc.... well that just is not very convincing to ppl who don't believe it's Michael Jackson singing.
So I do understand ppl not believing it's Michael...
even more since there appeared family statements that the kids said they do not hear Michael on there too.
Well honestly I have a hard time recognizing him on there too if I do lol... however my opinion is not the point here.
Ok then we do have ppl believing it's Michael Jackson singing there.
Because it's told it's him by several ppl who worked with Michael and who knew him... they have a point there.
Both sides do have strong points.
But honestly from my own researching and often proving heart... there's no solution to this anymore. There's hardly anyone found anymore who has not made up their mind already. Opinions are often enough the worst enemy of some true research and some real proving results... cuz even me (and I studied only 2 and a half years of statistics) could manipulate every statistic the way I want it to lead to a certain wished result... however someone as educated in statistics would find out about that probably lol. Anyways back to the point... even a court couldn't find more proof in this... there's no proof beyond reasonable doubt possible anymore since Michael is not here anymore and every other person who might sung there or even not like Jason Malachi for example could always stay silent as even a court couldn't pressure him to confess fraud... plus he'd lose probably all support from the ppl supporting him now business wise... so please, ask yourself if you should really wait for that... if that is a real possibility.
My mind tells me there will never be anyone proving anything in this as ppl are profiting the way it is now the most... just not we the fans.
For anyone who says they are working for keeping Michaels legacy that's ashame if they really know the connection Michael always had to us.
Let's just hope they will learn from this... and they are not non carring only greedy assholes.
However we the fans will not find only one valid answer to if it's Michael singing or not... that's as sad as stupid reality for now.
But thanks God we had a good example in Michael about tolerance. If you want the freedom of having an opinion you can have it only if you give that very same freedom to other ppl and let them have a different opinion at times... you can still live with them, you can still love them... it's just a different opinion. Do what your heart is telling you and let others follow a different path at times... it's no drama... it's just wonderful colorful life! lol
sorry for the long post lol couldn't keep inside what some responses made me think.
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