Michael Jackson v. Wade Robson, a new trial to be held

Is there a thread for just the updates about the trial, without any discussion?
Don't think so. IIRC, there is one that is supposed to be just documents relating to the trial but it doesn't get used much. I'm seriously considering whether I need to break the habit of my lifetime and bloody sign up for TwitterX so I can follow @andjustice4some and the Julia Berkowitz thread. Or that Dr Andrew Greene bloke.

I think when the trial gets started the blogs will get fired up again and be very active.
 
Don't think so. IIRC, there is one that is supposed to be just documents relating to the trial but it doesn't get used much. I'm seriously considering whether I need to break the habit of my lifetime and bloody sign up for TwitterX so I can follow @andjustice4some and the Julia Berkowitz thread. Or that Dr Andrew Greene bloke.

I think when the trial gets started the blogs will get fired up again and be very active.
Well, that'll be nice. It'd be nice to get just the facts.
 
Don't think so. IIRC, there is one that is supposed to be just documents relating to the trial but it doesn't get used much. I'm seriously considering whether I need to break the habit of my lifetime and bloody sign up for TwitterX so I can follow @andjustice4some and the Julia Berkowitz thread. Or that Dr Andrew Greene bloke.

I think when the trial gets started the blogs will get fired up again and be very active.
Who runs that site btw?

It's not Anika ,the super MJ fan who is a lawyer? I remember fancying her years ago after watching her and Danny Oliver on a channel 4 show w***o about J***o (horrible title)!
 
Useful resources which are still active or accessible online:


Also useful is @andjustice4some (Twitter account)

Re vindicatemj.wordpress.com - some people are unhappy with some stuff posted on the blog in recent months. I've had a long break from all of this stuff - pushing 2.5 years since I was immersed in this part of Michael's story - so I can't comment on that. But the material regarding the allegations is solid. At least, I always found it helpful. All of these blogs are good, imo. They all have their own way of presenting the material; it's good to have a choice.

Can't comment on the caseforinnocence podcast bc I haven't listened to it. But it has had universal good reviews so I'm assuming it's safe to include.
I'm hoping any or all of these resources will be active once the trial gets going. I think it's the waiting that's difficult. For myself, I want to do a bit of revision on this. I think revisiting this stuff will be helpful.
 
There's too much gloom and doom, it's been nothing but that this whole time. It's been quite frustrating, for a whole 3 months different people have taken turns having a public arc of doubt. Maybe that's allowed but it's definitely not motivating. Starts to wear on the nerves.
 
Sorry my wording wasn't the best, I was referring to the twitter (X) account that you mentioned andjustice4some
oh, with you.

OK, well, I just bumped an old comment of mine from earlier in the thread listing some resources that might be of interest to people. @andjustice4some - I have no idea who runs it, I've never signed up for TwitterX. I used to pick up stuff from Twitter for the Chart Watch thread and sometimes photo threads. @andjustice covers everything, lovely photos, streaming parties to get Michael into charts, serious stuff about the trials - e.g. they post updates on the HBO trial whenever they have news. They seem to stick to serious accurate stuff which is why I like them. Since Elon Musk changed the rules you can only access a single tweet if you're not signed up. So I'm thinking, what do I want to do about this?

@andjustice seems to be quite hardcore. For example, they watched LN at Sundance. They saw the original 4 hour version. They understand that not everyone wants to watch it at all let alone the full thing but they feel, rightly in my view, that you can't really fight something if you don't know exactly what has been said / shown / twisted etc.
 
More ancient stuff but useful if anyone needs to catch up.

 
Well, that'll be nice. It'd be nice to get just the facts.
This is the thread I meant. Haven't looked at this in detail, posting for FYI. I can already see one thing I don't like. There is a tweet on there stating that the FBI investigated Michael for 13 years. This gives the impression that he was investigated for 13 years (or 10 years, that's the figure people usually use) continuously. But he wasn't. Between 1993 and 1994 and separately between 2004 and 2005 the FBI assisted the Santa Barbara PD with their investigation. Afaik, that mostly consisted of the FBI interviewing potential witnesses who were not in California. The FBI has federal jurisdiction so they can go anywhere. The child protection wing of the FBI also looked at Michael and found no reason to proceed against him. That is my understanding. He definitely wasn't investigated by the FBI for 10 solid years (or 13). It's all there in those documents that are on the web. And they didn't hack his computers or tap his phone, afaik. So that tweet is a bit misleading and I think that's unfortunate.

 
Don't think so. IIRC, there is one that is supposed to be just documents relating to the trial but it doesn't get used much. I'm seriously considering whether I need to break the habit of my lifetime and bloody sign up for TwitterX so I can follow @andjustice4some and the Julia Berkowitz thread. Or that Dr Andrew Greene bloke.

I think when the trial gets started the blogs will get fired up again and be very active.
Yeah I am thinking of doing the same, shame X made it so hard to read without having an account..
BTW I think the TSCM account (@themjjrepository..?) did the best job on everything court related!

Also who did 'themichaeljacksonallegations.com'? That was/is a perfect site to show other people besides fans; not too much fan shit and very well written. It just stopped having updates after LN came out. Can't everyone dealing with this stuff combine forces to create a comprehensive site? That could still be very, very powerful imo


 
From what I've heard about this Dan Wootton guy, he's bad news all around, and him talking to Megyn Kelly makes this even worse. Them saying that he thinks that MJ is innocent is almost like if Donald Trump said that he thinks MJ is innocent.

Side note: Didn't Trump actually say that at one time?

Anyway, I know Megyn is a far-right commentator. I'm not sure what Wootton is, but here in the U.S. most of the media that questioned LN and the allegations have largely been right wing while those mostly on the left-of-center and mainstream reported as if the accusations and LN were legit without any questioning. They took in what the film provided at face value and talks of cancelling MJ began from there. It's beyond infuriating on several levels, especially for me being kind of a leftist. Then again, I shouldn't have expected more from the media in general.

Still, from what I've seen media-wise, this issue has been kind of divided politically, and from what I've seen on social media, most of the people who believed the accusers were white while those who think he's innocent were more diverse.
 
From what I've heard about this Dan Wootton guy, he's bad news all around, and him talking to Megyn Kelly makes this even worse. Them saying that he thinks that MJ is innocent is almost like if Donald Trump said that he thinks MJ is innocent.

Side note: Didn't Trump actually say that at one time?

Anyway, I know Megyn is a far-right commentator. I'm not sure what Wootton is, but here in the U.S. most of the media that questioned LN and the allegations have largely been right wing while those mostly on the left-of-center and mainstream reported as if the accusations and LN were legit without any questioning. They took in what the film provided at face value and talks of cancelling MJ began from there. It's beyond infuriating on several levels, especially for me being kind of a leftist. Then again, I shouldn't have expected more from the media in general.

Still, from what I've seen media-wise, this issue has been kind of divided politically, and from what I've seen on social media, most of the people who believed the accusers were white while those who think he's innocent were more diverse.
It's definitely not a simple left - right split. Not that you said it was but I just wanted to emphasise that. Here in the UK I've seen stuff in The Guardian about Michael which has been really grim. The Guardian newspaper positions itself as very leftie. Here in the UK newspapers are split politically and I read right across the spectrum. I have no brand loyalty to any newspaper. The tabloids are the worst bc they are tabloids but, apart from that, I don't think I've seen coverage in any particular paper being worse than the next one. They've all been crap, imo.
 
Anyway, I know Megyn is a far-right commentator. I'm not sure what Wootton is, but here in the U.S. most of the media that questioned LN and the allegations have largely been right wing while those mostly on the left-of-center and mainstream reported as if the accusations and LN were legit without any questioning. They took in what the film provided at face value and talks of cancelling MJ began from there. It's beyond infuriating on several levels, especially for me being kind of a leftist. Then again, I shouldn't have expected more from the media in general.
It's the virtue signalling, isn't it? That's what it looks like to me.
 
I find the whole giving bad people a pass because they say MJ was innocent thing very concerning tbh.
Thing is though.. Everyone deserves a second chance though, don't they ?:( .... I think m would embrace the change of heart ..maybe?
But at the end of the day Dan has come forward.
And i mean ... I think that is a brave move to make. I really hope he isn't getting rawred at by WD. :(

There will be some ' You traitor! ' remarks i am sure that Dan will have to deal with but he is doing it . It is a pretty risky thing to do. I think.
So , i mean well.. that in itself, has got to account for something.
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You know ,it is great to see that Dan [imo] wised up , smelt the coffee and he is on our side. :unsure:🤷‍♀️
I for one appreciate that mindset. I am gunning for James next. I want him to come to our side. I don't think [ and never did 😟 ] feel he belongs on the side of doom.. cause they are doomed and they know it. Especially because our big boy is back. [Sir T Mez]
Good news seems so scarce these days.
 
You not what good for him, at least he's admitted he got it wrong, there are so many other s that know it's bullshit but stay silent. I wis more people had the balls to say something
Thing is though.. Everyone deserves a second chance though, don't they ?:( .... I think m would embrace the change of heart ..maybe?
But at the end of the day Dan has come forward.
And i mean ... I think that is a brave move to make. I really hope he isn't getting rawred at by WD. :(

There will be some ' You traitor! ' remarks i am sure that Dan will have to deal with but he is doing it . It is a pretty risky thing to do. I think.
So , i mean well.. that in itself, has got to account for something.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
You know ,it is great to see that Dan [imo] wised up , smelt the coffee and he is on our side. :unsure:🤷‍♀️
I for one appreciate that mindset. I am gunning for James next. I want him to come to our side. I don't think [ and never did 😟 ] feel he belongs on the side of doom.. cause they are doomed and they know it. Especially because our big boy is back. [Sir T Mez]
Good news seems so scarce these days.
I really get a sense the tide is turning, just feeling positive, feels good to have that feeling
 
Thing is though.. Everyone deserves a second chance though, don't they ?:( .... I think m would embrace the change of heart ..maybe?
But at the end of the day Dan has come forward.
And i mean ... I think that is a brave move to make. I really hope he isn't getting rawred at by WD. :(

There will be some ' You traitor! ' remarks i am sure that Dan will have to deal with but he is doing it . It is a pretty risky thing to do. I think.
So , i mean well.. that in itself, has got to account for something.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
You know ,it is great to see that Dan [imo] wised up , smelt the coffee and he is on our side. :unsure:🤷‍♀️
I for one appreciate that mindset. I am gunning for James next. I want him to come to our side. I don't think [ and never did 😟 ] feel he belongs on the side of doom.. cause they are doomed and they know it. Especially because our big boy is back. [Sir T Mez]
Good news seems so scarce these days.
He's still possibly guilty of many crimes and much bad conduct.

I find the whole giving bad people a pass because they say MJ was innocent thing very concerning tbh.
Like Kendrick said

Heroes looking for a villain to help.
 
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