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Michael Jackson v. Wade Robson, a new trial to be held

8701girl said:
so like had the arvizos won the 2005 trial they still couldve gone for the money after mike got convicted?
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Exactly. If they had won in 2005 a civil case coming after that would be more or less a slam dunk. Lots of $$$ in compensation.

Mr. Make Believe said:
For sure! That was the whole plan probably. It was also the career move for TS. Unfortunately in the US how successful the career of a public prosecutor is, is partially based on how many big cases he/she won. In my opinion that's a big problem with the US legal system. It drove TS way past moral boundaries.
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I agree. I'm not American and don't know much about the US legal system but I am convinced this brings in a layer of, um, corruption that is unhelpful.

Mr. Make Believe said:
Well said and I felt/feel the same. We were literally growing up and in that sense we learned too fast that the world isn't the place we hoped for and we were told. We matured quickly, but it also prepared us and gave us sense of realism.
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I don't see age as being relevant. Many of Michael's fans who defended him from day dot are older than me. I don't think it's an age thing, I think it's more of a technology thing. In 1993 the internet / www was not available to the general public. Computers were really just glorified typewriters. Even by 1997 the web and email still felt incredibly new for most of us.

1993 was a complete thunderbolt, as you said. 2005 less so, imo, not bc I thought he was guilty but purely bc of the Bashir programme. I've been more shocked by WR in 2013 and by LN, tbh. But Michael's army has been through the fire and they know how to deal with this. Social media, for all its hideous faults, is massively helpful so that's great. I don't think it'll be easy and I'm still anxious, even with TM on board. But it will be different from before, that's for damn sure.
 
Post 1993...you cannot have a criminal trial before a civil trail...coz at civil trail...you'd already had your defence strategies laid out . It would devestate the defendents at criminal trial. This law was put up only after 1993. This is fairer.


 
christy said:
Post 1993...you cannot have a criminal trial before a civil trail...coz at civil trail...you'd already had your defence strategies laid out . It would devestate the defendents at criminal trial. This law was put up only after 1993. This is fairer.
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I read somewhere that Tom Sneddon was the one who pushed for the law to be changed so that a civil case could not go ahead before a criminal case. I have no idea if that's true. Either way, it's good that it changed even if it was too late for Michael to benefit from it in 1993.
 
Too little too late.
But now with social media..the waters
get muddied a lot easier. Also the prevalence of the cancel culture...mindless herd mentality is not doing any favours at all. Trial by media..
poses difficulty to find a non-bias jury.

 
does anyone know which interview this is from? they use this short video in "lies of leaving neverland" but have a voiceover. I have never seen this interview. anyone has it? its not from inside edition.

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As an old schooler here (was rmkopv2300 before KOPV), (I know this is not topical to the thread but it's where the convo is at).. 8701girl has been here for a long time. One of the usernames that I think "Hey that's cool she's still here." when I visit the forum.

Just look at her joined date on every post... If her username has been around for 16 years, she's probably not a teenager. Just sayin'.. Her screenname has its driver's license.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Wouldn't you have graduated to 8701woman by now?
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KOPV said:
As an old schooler here (was rmkopv2300 before KOPV), (I know this is not topical to the thread but it's where the convo is at).. 8701girl has been here for a long time. One of the usernames that I think "Hey that's cool she's still here." when I visit the forum.

Just look at her joined date on every post... If her username has been around for 16 years, she's probably not a teenager. Just sayin'.. Her screenname has its driver's license.
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Bro is not having a good day 😂
 
KOPV said:
As an old schooler here (was rmkopv2300 before KOPV), (I know this is not topical to the thread but it's where the convo is at).. 8701girl has been here for a long time. One of the usernames that I think "Hey that's cool she's still here." when I visit the forum.

Just look at her joined date on every post... If her username has been around for 16 years, she's probably not a teenager. Just sayin'.. Her screenname has its driver's license.
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At the end of the day, I just noticed people's takes on MJ. That's just what I judge off of, how familiar with his game you are. That varies of course, and not everyone knows everything. I get that.

I don't really look at people's profiles like that, only if they're being completely ignorant and are obviously green.

Like @Blues_Away2023.

Blues_Away2023 said:
Bro is not having a good day 😂
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I'm having a great day, I promise you. My life does not revolve around your little forum takes.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Wouldn't you have graduated to 8701woman by now?
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Mr JT I can't work out if this is one of your jokey comments that comes without an emoji which makes it hard to work out what's going on. I can usually tell if you're joking but this one has thrown me. 🤔

With all due respect, mate, this comment doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Plus, people don't usually change their username anyway. There's no reason to. Women are not required to announce their age bracket or anything else.
 
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Glanni said:
does anyone know which interview this is from? they use this short video in "lies of leaving neverland" but have a voiceover. I have never seen this interview. anyone has it? its not from inside edition.

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Sorry
No help here.
So anyone? no , ? no-one knows ?

Random observation of it- Think he has a vintage 'Dickies' shirt on and beads. Like that's going to save him. :cautious:
 
zinniabooklover said:
Mr JT I can't work out if this is one of your jokey comments that comes without an emoji which makes it hard to work out what's going on. I can usually tell if you're joking but this one has thrown me. 🤔

With all due respect, mate, this comment doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Plus, people don't usually change their username anyway. There's no reason to. Women are not required to announce their age bracket or anything else.
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It was just a joke. I was trying to lighten the mood.
 
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