"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

How about we go for endless lol
Titanic - 3h 14m
Ten Commandments - 3h 40m
Gone with the Wind - 4 hours
The Godfather - 2h 55m
Avatar II - 3h 12m
The Sound of Music - 3 hours
Blockbusters have been really long before, if the movie is as good as we hope a 3 or even 4 hour movie will work.
 
Titanic - 3h 14m
Ten Commandments - 3h 40m
Gone with the Wind - 4 hours
The Godfather - 2h 55m
Avatar II - 3h 12m
The Sound of Music - 3 hours
Blockbusters have been really long before, if the movie is as good as we hope a 3 or even 4 hour movie will work.
Most of these came out long ago when they put an intermission in the middle of the movie. That was the time to use the restroom or get snacks They don't do that anymore because an intermission will cut into how many times the theater can run a movie. Also movies in the past stayed in theaters for several months, even a year because there were no multiplexes. Nor did the movies go to streaming a few weeks later or had bootleggers & pirates selling a DVD or uploading it online while the movie is still in theaters.
 
And piracy was the worst thing ever haha ...bootlegs .. We had limited everything. I remember America in particular would get the films first & UK would get that film 6 months to a year later.
 
Titanic - 3h 14m
Ten Commandments - 3h 40m
Gone with the Wind - 4 hours
The Godfather - 2h 55m
Avatar II - 3h 12m
The Sound of Music - 3 hours
Blockbusters have been really long before, if the movie is as good as we hope a 3 or even 4 hour movie will work.
A 4 hour movie? That's a slog even for the biggest MJ fans going. That would put a lot of people off.

Imagine having to sit through 4 hours of guff, people would walk out before it finished.

Keep it trim but full of quality and excitement. Make the audience want more so they see it multiple times.
 
Most of these came out long ago when they put an intermission in the middle of the movie. That was the time to use the restroom or get snacks They don't do that anymore because an intermission will cut into how many times the theater can run a movie. Also movies in the past stayed in theaters for several months, even a year because there were no multiplexes. Nor did the movies go to streaming a few weeks later or had bootleggers & pirates selling a DVD or uploading it online while the movie is still in theaters.
Where would the intermission in the MJ movie be?
 
Where would the intermission in the MJ movie be?
There isn't going to be one. Even if they make the film 3.5 hrs long there still wouldn't be an intermission.

Most films back in the day didn't have intermissions, only the really long ones, the epic films. Gone With The Wind runs at 3hrs 44m so that had one. Cinema going was very different back then. There would usually be a short film and / or a news reel. And then the main film which, if it was long, might have a break halfway through. It wasn't just the length of the film it was also to give the projectionist a chance to change the film reel.

Nowadays it's all computerised so it's just not going to happen, imo.

Movies not gonna be 3 hours.
(y)

I'd be really surprised if it was.
 
I'm not sure if this is reliable but apparently some bits of the movie script were revealed in a puck news article

- An exclusive look at the script for ‘Michael,’ currently in production, reveals the first Jackson estate-approved piece of entertainment that directly addresses the child molestation allegations against him—and seeks to cleanse the entertainer’s image 15 years after his death. -

Back when he was alive, the attorney Howard Weitzman and I used to chat from time to time about Michael Jackson. Howard was one of the many lawyers that represented Michael over the years. And after Jackson died in 2009, Weitzman managed the many, many litigation matters for the Jackson estate, a massive client that his old firm still represents today, three years after his own death.

Howard was a true believer in Michael’s innocence—or at least he always said he was a true believer—despite all the bad optics of paid-off accusers, a criminal trial over seven counts of alleged child molestation, and, in 2019, the incendiary documentary Leaving Neverland, in which Wade Robson and James Safechuck described in explicit detail being groomed and molested as children by the so-called King of Pop.

Like many, I never knew what to think about Jackson—yes, it all looked terrible, and the Leaving Neverland guys seemed pretty credible, despite the obvious incentive to profit off their notoriety, and the fact that they had both previously testified for Michael. But M.J. was never convicted of any crimes, and, when we talked, Howard always had great excuses for Michael’s weird behavior and evidence that each accuser was out for money or fame or revenge or something. I often pointed out that Weitzman collected millions of dollars in legal fees in exchange for his beliefs, but Howard also represented O.J. Simpson, and let’s just say that privately, he did not offer the same full-throated defense of that former client.

Anyway, in 2019, sometime after Weitzman had filed a $100 million lawsuit against HBO over Leaving Neverland, I was approached in my capacity as editor of The Hollywood Reporter to partner with a major filmmaker on a Jackson documentary series. The filmmaker wanted to use THR and Billboard articles and talking-head experts in the series, and possibly even snippets of Jackson’s big hits. He knew that music was a long shot, considering the estate would need to approve, but he also knew I had good relationships with both Howard and the Ziffren Brittenham law firm, home of music lawyer John Branca, one of Michael’s executors and—except for brief periods of estrangement—perhaps his fiercest defender in both life and death. Might I ask Weitzman or Branca if there was any scenario in which the estate would allow the limited use of Jackson’s music as part of a journalistic inquiry into what made Michael the man he was?

So I called up Howard… and it was a very short conversation. If this project planned to even mention “the allegations,” he told me, the estate was out. And, he continued—and this part I remember very clearly—“Be careful,” he said. “I love you, but I’ll sue the shit out of you.”

- Estate Planning -

That message was received (the doc project went nowhere), and it has explained a lot of the estate’s activities since Michael died of a drug overdose while attempting a comeback tour after his criminal trial (he was acquitted in 2005 after being accused of abusing a 13-year-old boy at the Neverland Ranch). Branca and estate co-executor John McClain have meticulously managed Michael’s assets, erasing nearly $500 million(!) in debt and generating billions of dollars from new projects designed to also restore his image. There was the rehearsal footage tribute movie, This Is It, which grossed $268 million in theaters in late 2009; a pair of hagiographic Cirque du Soleil shows (Howard made sure I saw the very strange Michael Jackson: One shortly after it debuted in 2013 in Vegas, where it is still playing); and MJ, the Broadway musical, which the Times review called “a grind of obfuscation, a case of willfully not looking at the man in the mirror.” Fans didn’t care. That show, which open in February 2022, has grossed $172 million so far, according to the Broadway League, and it just debuted in London.

These projects all have something in common: They ignore the allegations against Jackson that consumed the final third of his life, focusing instead on his rise to stardom and that amazing music. That’s been the estate’s whole strategy, of course. And it has worked. Even as Leaving Neverland reignited the outrage, with Oprah doing an entire special with the accusers and some radio stations pulling MJ from their rotations, the estate has chugged along spectacularly. A recent court filing said its assets were valued at around $2 billion. Sales and streams of Jackson’s music jumped 37 percent from 2020 to 2023, according to Luminate. (Outside the U.S., Jackson is even more popular.)

Just last month, Branca sold half of Jackson’s recorded music and songwriting catalog to Sony in an incredible arrangement that valued them at $1.2 billion and allowed the estate to continue to control how they are exploited. When that deal was announced, a triumphant Branca told the Times, “As we have always maintained, we would never give up management or control of Michael Jackson’s assets.”

That’s clear. So it’s no surprise that Michael, the big-budget feature biopic that is currently in production in and around Los Angeles for release next April, is every bit as adulatory toward its subject. If you really, really love Michael Jackson, this movie is for you. (Feel free to blurb that, guys.) But given the estate’s involvement, I must say I was surprised when I recently read the screenplay. I figured the movie—written by John Logan (The Aviator), directed by Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, The Equalizer), produced by Graham King (Bohemian Rhapsody), starring Jaafar Jackson (Michael’s nephew and Jermaine’s son), and distributed by Lionsgate (U.S.) and Universal (international)—would similarly steer clear of the pedophilia stuff. There’s already so much drama in Michael’s upbringing: the shot to stardom with The Jackson 5; the trauma at the hands of his abusive father, Joe (Colman Domingo), that, at least in the Jackson mythology, led to his obsession with plastic surgery; the painkiller addiction after his fiery accident on the Pepsi commercial set; the embarrassing skin condition; and the lack of an actual childhood that manifested in his bizarre innocence and lifelong love of being around kids. Maybe to avoid criticism, the movie would flick at the abuse claims, I thought, or the “noise” around Jackson as he became weirder and weirder.

That’s all in Michael. But this is not just that. If the script as written ends up onscreen—which is a big caveat here because words and scenes are often changed during shoots, and not everything goes in the final cut—this will be super controversial. It’s basically the first major piece of estate-approved entertainment that directly engages with the allegations against Jackson. And it not only engages, it wants very much to convince you Michael is innocent.


- The Script -

Out of respect for the filmmakers and the creative process, I don’t want to reveal too much here, especially since the content could change. But given the serious allegations against Jackson and the fact that this movie will reach millions of people with a specific version of events, right around the time when litigation between the estate and the Leaving Neverland accusers is expected to go to trial, the contents of the script are clearly important and newsworthy.

Amid a boom lately in musical biopics, both Lionsgate and Universal think this movie could do Bohemian Rhapsody numbers, and potentially more. That movie got to $910 million worldwide in 2018, and Jackson was a much bigger star than Freddie Mercury ever was. Executives at both studios engaged in robust debates about whether to take this project on, I’m told, and both have already started planning a unique comms strategy for potential backlash. Sony Pictures, a logical partner for the film, given it released This Is It and its sister company owns part of the music, didn’t even bid due to its executives’ misgivings about the optics.

So, what’s in it? The Michael script opens with Jackson staring out from his Neverland bedroom as the police arrive to strip search him, part of the 1993 investigation into statements about Jackson’s anatomy made by Jordan Chandler, the 13-year-old boy whose molestation claim led to the first legal circus and an eventual $20 million settlement. The script then goes to great lengths to minimize and downplay the actual claims and eviscerate the Chandlers, including that infamous recorded phone call where Jordan’s father says his real goal is to destroy his ex-wife and Jackson’s career, and the well-being of his son is “irrelevant to me.”

There’s Branca (Miles Teller) and Johnnie Cochran discussing the claims as an “extortion” attempt. There’s also a lengthy and pretty grueling scene of Jackson actually being strip searched and photographed totally naked while surrounded by cops and lawyers. “This assault, this scorching trauma, will shake him to the core and never leave him,” the script reads. The clear message: Michael was the actual victim here.


That may be true. I’m not pro or anti Jackson, and I don’t profess to have studied the details of the cases. But others have, and many have come to very different conclusions about Jackson’s behavior. It is strange that Michael is never depicted alone at night with children, which even his defenders admit happened a lot. The script describes Jackson as “uniquely comfortable around kids,” and at one point, Branca says, “It’s not the kids I’m worried about, it’s the parents. He’s opening his door to tons of people we don’t know. And there’s a lot of greedy people in the world.” Later, Michael laments to his lawyers, “I tell the truth—and it doesn’t matter. I’ve been around kids my whole life, but now they’ve turned it into something ugly.”

Again, it shouldn’t be surprising that the estate wants to launder M.J.’s image. That and making money are kinda the only reasons the estate exists. What’s interesting is how aggressive the script is in this pursuit. There’s no real interrogation of Michael’s defenses other than his eccentric lifestyle “looks bad,” no perspective of the accusers is offered, no bad details included. Only the Chandler situation is dramatized; there’s nothing about the later criminal investigation and trial, or the Robson and Safechuck allegations, or the myriad other claims against Jackson. The takeaway from Michael is that Michael Jackson had an abusive father who caused him to become a horribly insecure yet harmless Peter Pan, constantly reliving the childhood he never had. And ultimately, that was weaponized by bad people trying to exploit him.

That’s a deliberate choice by the estate, after 15 years of silence, to go on the offensive. It’s pretty clear to me that the executors, as well as Graham King, the lead producer, and the other talent involved, are motivated to answer the critics in this film. Maybe they’re true believers (the filmmakers all declined to comment), or maybe the same Weitzman caveats apply here. King and the others stand to make millions off this project, and King shares a law firm, Ziffren Brittenham, with the estate. Regardless, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them in the press defending Jackson when the movie comes out.

“The Truth Is Very Different” Obviously, the Jackson critics, and even some regular fans who followed the cases closely, are gonna feel differently. Dan Reed, the Leaving Neverland director, wrote a piece for The Guardian last year ripping “the total absence of outrage accompanying the announcement of this movie.” Robson and Safechuck aren’t in the script, but I asked Reed this week if he was surprised that it seeks to shoot down abuse claims. “I didn’t expect my film had that kind of impact where they would want to make a movie to rebut the allegations,” he said. The picture it paints is of a childlike, caring man. But, Reed added, “the truth is very different.”

Meanwhile, there’s another wrinkle. As I mentioned, an appeals court ruled last summer that the Leaving Neverland guys can resume their lawsuits against Jackson’s companies for failing to protect them from abuse. There was a hearing in L.A. last week, and the Robson and Safechuck cases were consolidated. The accusers are pushing for a trial date early next year—before the April 18, 2025, release date. The estate’s lead litigators, Jon Steinsapir and Tom Mesereau, obviously don’t want a high-profile trial as the movie is heading to theaters.

“The defense game is to delay,” John Carpenter, the lead attorney for Robson and Safechuck, told me last week, promising new revelations during the trial. He’s afraid the “work of fiction” film might impact a jury’s impression of Jackson. Steinsapir responded that the estate is “focused solely on winning these cases (again) in a court of law, where truth is determined by actual evidence rather than uncorroborated salacious allegations.” And, he added, “when that evidence is presented, we are certain Michael Jackson will be vindicated once more.”

At the same time, the estate is still in arbitration with HBO over Leaving Neverland. Remember, that’s not a defamation case (you can’t defame a dead person). The estate is arguing the film breached a non-disparagement clause that HBO signed back in 1992, when filming Jackson’s tour. HBO declined to comment on the status of that case, which is proceeding as Reed finishes his follow-up to Leaving Neverland, called After Neverland, about the legal fight between the accusers and the estate. He hopes it will be on Channel 4 in the U.K. and elsewhere by the end of the year, well in advance of the movie. (HBO has nothing to do with this one.)

All of which means the Michael Jackson molestation media circus could return to town just as the estate is putting out its biggest and most aggressive effort to clear Michael’s name. And it’s a big effort. Lionsgate wouldn’t tell me the exact production budget, but documents filed to win a state tax credit revealed $120 million in planned “qualified spend” in California. (King is going for authenticity in the shoot; billionaire Ron Burkle is even letting the production film at Neverland, which Burkle bought in 2020.)

That doesn’t include above-the-line fees for talent, and it’s not clear whether it includes music rights, a substantial expense here. I counted about 20 M.J. and Jackson 5 songs in the script, and at least five separate montage sequences set to his music. One source says the net budget is around $155 million (minus the incentives), which would place it among the most expensive musical biopics ever made.

But I’m not worried about this movie making money. It’s gonna be huge, and to be honest, most M.J. fans don’t care about any of this, especially outside the U.S. Plus, perversely, the controversy around the trial or the new Neverland movie may actually help sell tickets. Michael Jackson’s appeal has always included a freak-show element, so maybe it’s smart to lean in—and, as we now know, they’re trying to change some people’s minds in a way that Michael himself was never able to achieve while alive. We’ll see if they pull it off.

 
I'm not sure if this is reliable but apparently some bits of the movie script were revealed in a puck news article

- An exclusive look at the script for ‘Michael,’ currently in production, reveals the first Jackson estate-approved piece of entertainment that directly addresses the child molestation allegations against him—and seeks to cleanse the entertainer’s image 15 years after his death. -

Back when he was alive, the attorney Howard Weitzman and I used to chat from time to time about Michael Jackson. Howard was one of the many lawyers that represented Michael over the years. And after Jackson died in 2009, Weitzman managed the many, many litigation matters for the Jackson estate, a massive client that his old firm still represents today, three years after his own death.

Howard was a true believer in Michael’s innocence—or at least he always said he was a true believer—despite all the bad optics of paid-off accusers, a criminal trial over seven counts of alleged child molestation, and, in 2019, the incendiary documentary Leaving Neverland, in which Wade Robson and James Safechuck described in explicit detail being groomed and molested as children by the so-called King of Pop.

Like many, I never knew what to think about Jackson—yes, it all looked terrible, and the Leaving Neverland guys seemed pretty credible, despite the obvious incentive to profit off their notoriety, and the fact that they had both previously testified for Michael. But M.J. was never convicted of any crimes, and, when we talked, Howard always had great excuses for Michael’s weird behavior and evidence that each accuser was out for money or fame or revenge or something. I often pointed out that Weitzman collected millions of dollars in legal fees in exchange for his beliefs, but Howard also represented O.J. Simpson, and let’s just say that privately, he did not offer the same full-throated defense of that former client.

Anyway, in 2019, sometime after Weitzman had filed a $100 million lawsuit against HBO over Leaving Neverland, I was approached in my capacity as editor of The Hollywood Reporter to partner with a major filmmaker on a Jackson documentary series. The filmmaker wanted to use THR and Billboard articles and talking-head experts in the series, and possibly even snippets of Jackson’s big hits. He knew that music was a long shot, considering the estate would need to approve, but he also knew I had good relationships with both Howard and the Ziffren Brittenham law firm, home of music lawyer John Branca, one of Michael’s executors and—except for brief periods of estrangement—perhaps his fiercest defender in both life and death. Might I ask Weitzman or Branca if there was any scenario in which the estate would allow the limited use of Jackson’s music as part of a journalistic inquiry into what made Michael the man he was?

So I called up Howard… and it was a very short conversation. If this project planned to even mention “the allegations,” he told me, the estate was out. And, he continued—and this part I remember very clearly—“Be careful,” he said. “I love you, but I’ll sue the shit out of you.”

- Estate Planning -

That message was received (the doc project went nowhere), and it has explained a lot of the estate’s activities since Michael died of a drug overdose while attempting a comeback tour after his criminal trial (he was acquitted in 2005 after being accused of abusing a 13-year-old boy at the Neverland Ranch). Branca and estate co-executor John McClain have meticulously managed Michael’s assets, erasing nearly $500 million(!) in debt and generating billions of dollars from new projects designed to also restore his image. There was the rehearsal footage tribute movie, This Is It, which grossed $268 million in theaters in late 2009; a pair of hagiographic Cirque du Soleil shows (Howard made sure I saw the very strange Michael Jackson: One shortly after it debuted in 2013 in Vegas, where it is still playing); and MJ, the Broadway musical, which the Times review called “a grind of obfuscation, a case of willfully not looking at the man in the mirror.” Fans didn’t care. That show, which open in February 2022, has grossed $172 million so far, according to the Broadway League, and it just debuted in London.

These projects all have something in common: They ignore the allegations against Jackson that consumed the final third of his life, focusing instead on his rise to stardom and that amazing music. That’s been the estate’s whole strategy, of course. And it has worked. Even as Leaving Neverland reignited the outrage, with Oprah doing an entire special with the accusers and some radio stations pulling MJ from their rotations, the estate has chugged along spectacularly. A recent court filing said its assets were valued at around $2 billion. Sales and streams of Jackson’s music jumped 37 percent from 2020 to 2023, according to Luminate. (Outside the U.S., Jackson is even more popular.)

Just last month, Branca sold half of Jackson’s recorded music and songwriting catalog to Sony in an incredible arrangement that valued them at $1.2 billion and allowed the estate to continue to control how they are exploited. When that deal was announced, a triumphant Branca told the Times, “As we have always maintained, we would never give up management or control of Michael Jackson’s assets.”

That’s clear. So it’s no surprise that Michael, the big-budget feature biopic that is currently in production in and around Los Angeles for release next April, is every bit as adulatory toward its subject. If you really, really love Michael Jackson, this movie is for you. (Feel free to blurb that, guys.) But given the estate’s involvement, I must say I was surprised when I recently read the screenplay. I figured the movie—written by John Logan (The Aviator), directed by Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, The Equalizer), produced by Graham King (Bohemian Rhapsody), starring Jaafar Jackson (Michael’s nephew and Jermaine’s son), and distributed by Lionsgate (U.S.) and Universal (international)—would similarly steer clear of the pedophilia stuff. There’s already so much drama in Michael’s upbringing: the shot to stardom with The Jackson 5; the trauma at the hands of his abusive father, Joe (Colman Domingo), that, at least in the Jackson mythology, led to his obsession with plastic surgery; the painkiller addiction after his fiery accident on the Pepsi commercial set; the embarrassing skin condition; and the lack of an actual childhood that manifested in his bizarre innocence and lifelong love of being around kids. Maybe to avoid criticism, the movie would flick at the abuse claims, I thought, or the “noise” around Jackson as he became weirder and weirder.

That’s all in Michael. But this is not just that. If the script as written ends up onscreen—which is a big caveat here because words and scenes are often changed during shoots, and not everything goes in the final cut—this will be super controversial. It’s basically the first major piece of estate-approved entertainment that directly engages with the allegations against Jackson. And it not only engages, it wants very much to convince you Michael is innocent.


- The Script -

Out of respect for the filmmakers and the creative process, I don’t want to reveal too much here, especially since the content could change. But given the serious allegations against Jackson and the fact that this movie will reach millions of people with a specific version of events, right around the time when litigation between the estate and the Leaving Neverland accusers is expected to go to trial, the contents of the script are clearly important and newsworthy.

Amid a boom lately in musical biopics, both Lionsgate and Universal think this movie could do Bohemian Rhapsody numbers, and potentially more. That movie got to $910 million worldwide in 2018, and Jackson was a much bigger star than Freddie Mercury ever was. Executives at both studios engaged in robust debates about whether to take this project on, I’m told, and both have already started planning a unique comms strategy for potential backlash. Sony Pictures, a logical partner for the film, given it released This Is It and its sister company owns part of the music, didn’t even bid due to its executives’ misgivings about the optics.

So, what’s in it? The Michael script opens with Jackson staring out from his Neverland bedroom as the police arrive to strip search him, part of the 1993 investigation into statements about Jackson’s anatomy made by Jordan Chandler, the 13-year-old boy whose molestation claim led to the first legal circus and an eventual $20 million settlement. The script then goes to great lengths to minimize and downplay the actual claims and eviscerate the Chandlers, including that infamous recorded phone call where Jordan’s father says his real goal is to destroy his ex-wife and Jackson’s career, and the well-being of his son is “irrelevant to me.”

There’s Branca (Miles Teller) and Johnnie Cochran discussing the claims as an “extortion” attempt. There’s also a lengthy and pretty grueling scene of Jackson actually being strip searched and photographed totally naked while surrounded by cops and lawyers. “This assault, this scorching trauma, will shake him to the core and never leave him,” the script reads. The clear message: Michael was the actual victim here.


That may be true. I’m not pro or anti Jackson, and I don’t profess to have studied the details of the cases. But others have, and many have come to very different conclusions about Jackson’s behavior. It is strange that Michael is never depicted alone at night with children, which even his defenders admit happened a lot. The script describes Jackson as “uniquely comfortable around kids,” and at one point, Branca says, “It’s not the kids I’m worried about, it’s the parents. He’s opening his door to tons of people we don’t know. And there’s a lot of greedy people in the world.” Later, Michael laments to his lawyers, “I tell the truth—and it doesn’t matter. I’ve been around kids my whole life, but now they’ve turned it into something ugly.”

Again, it shouldn’t be surprising that the estate wants to launder M.J.’s image. That and making money are kinda the only reasons the estate exists. What’s interesting is how aggressive the script is in this pursuit. There’s no real interrogation of Michael’s defenses other than his eccentric lifestyle “looks bad,” no perspective of the accusers is offered, no bad details included. Only the Chandler situation is dramatized; there’s nothing about the later criminal investigation and trial, or the Robson and Safechuck allegations, or the myriad other claims against Jackson. The takeaway from Michael is that Michael Jackson had an abusive father who caused him to become a horribly insecure yet harmless Peter Pan, constantly reliving the childhood he never had. And ultimately, that was weaponized by bad people trying to exploit him.

That’s a deliberate choice by the estate, after 15 years of silence, to go on the offensive. It’s pretty clear to me that the executors, as well as Graham King, the lead producer, and the other talent involved, are motivated to answer the critics in this film. Maybe they’re true believers (the filmmakers all declined to comment), or maybe the same Weitzman caveats apply here. King and the others stand to make millions off this project, and King shares a law firm, Ziffren Brittenham, with the estate. Regardless, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them in the press defending Jackson when the movie comes out.

“The Truth Is Very Different” Obviously, the Jackson critics, and even some regular fans who followed the cases closely, are gonna feel differently. Dan Reed, the Leaving Neverland director, wrote a piece for The Guardian last year ripping “the total absence of outrage accompanying the announcement of this movie.” Robson and Safechuck aren’t in the script, but I asked Reed this week if he was surprised that it seeks to shoot down abuse claims. “I didn’t expect my film had that kind of impact where they would want to make a movie to rebut the allegations,” he said. The picture it paints is of a childlike, caring man. But, Reed added, “the truth is very different.”

Meanwhile, there’s another wrinkle. As I mentioned, an appeals court ruled last summer that the Leaving Neverland guys can resume their lawsuits against Jackson’s companies for failing to protect them from abuse. There was a hearing in L.A. last week, and the Robson and Safechuck cases were consolidated. The accusers are pushing for a trial date early next year—before the April 18, 2025, release date. The estate’s lead litigators, Jon Steinsapir and Tom Mesereau, obviously don’t want a high-profile trial as the movie is heading to theaters.

“The defense game is to delay,” John Carpenter, the lead attorney for Robson and Safechuck, told me last week, promising new revelations during the trial. He’s afraid the “work of fiction” film might impact a jury’s impression of Jackson. Steinsapir responded that the estate is “focused solely on winning these cases (again) in a court of law, where truth is determined by actual evidence rather than uncorroborated salacious allegations.” And, he added, “when that evidence is presented, we are certain Michael Jackson will be vindicated once more.”

At the same time, the estate is still in arbitration with HBO over Leaving Neverland. Remember, that’s not a defamation case (you can’t defame a dead person). The estate is arguing the film breached a non-disparagement clause that HBO signed back in 1992, when filming Jackson’s tour. HBO declined to comment on the status of that case, which is proceeding as Reed finishes his follow-up to Leaving Neverland, called After Neverland, about the legal fight between the accusers and the estate. He hopes it will be on Channel 4 in the U.K. and elsewhere by the end of the year, well in advance of the movie. (HBO has nothing to do with this one.)

All of which means the Michael Jackson molestation media circus could return to town just as the estate is putting out its biggest and most aggressive effort to clear Michael’s name. And it’s a big effort. Lionsgate wouldn’t tell me the exact production budget, but documents filed to win a state tax credit revealed $120 million in planned “qualified spend” in California. (King is going for authenticity in the shoot; billionaire Ron Burkle is even letting the production film at Neverland, which Burkle bought in 2020.)

That doesn’t include above-the-line fees for talent, and it’s not clear whether it includes music rights, a substantial expense here. I counted about 20 M.J. and Jackson 5 songs in the script, and at least five separate montage sequences set to his music. One source says the net budget is around $155 million (minus the incentives), which would place it among the most expensive musical biopics ever made.

But I’m not worried about this movie making money. It’s gonna be huge, and to be honest, most M.J. fans don’t care about any of this, especially outside the U.S. Plus, perversely, the controversy around the trial or the new Neverland movie may actually help sell tickets. Michael Jackson’s appeal has always included a freak-show element, so maybe it’s smart to lean in—and, as we now know, they’re trying to change some people’s minds in a way that Michael himself was never able to achieve while alive. We’ll see if they pull it off.

Sounds like "After Neverland" will fit on the same shelf as all those other tabloidy MJ docs from the UK/Channel 4 throughout the years then since HBO won't be involved. That's something at least. Small time doc.
 
As of 2024 it's "a new media company covering power, money and ego".

Whatever that means. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I've never heard of any of the writers listed.
I'm pretty indecisive, I searched who the person who wrote the article is and they're the same person who revealed the Chris Brown MJ tribute at the American Music Awards and helped it get cancelled so it's weird how a person who doesn't even like MJ would get access to the movie script. But then the article is being backed by Jeff Sneider who's known to be a reliable movie scooper so I'm not sure what to think of it.

Best to just take it with a grain of salt.
 
Yeah take it with a pinch of salt for sure..

My thoughts? That would be a pretty powerful opening and certainly away from the typical paint by numbers biopic.

The films needs to be controversial, Michael's whole life was indeed that. It needs to get people talking as it could make millions.

Once again I really think that it won't go beyond 93 and end with Man in the mirror Dangeorus tour performance.
 
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Yeah take it with a pinch of salt for sure..

My thoughts? That would be a pretty powerful opening and certainly away from the typical paint by numbers biopic.

The films needs to be controversial, Michael's whole life was indeed that. It needs to get people talking as it could make millions.

Once again I really think that it won't go beyond 93 and end with Man in the mirror Dangeorus tour performance.
Post credit scene with Janet pulling outside his house saying "boys we got work to do" revealing Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis in the driver seats.

JANET JACKSON WILL RETURN
 
I'm pretty indecisive, I searched who the person who wrote the article is and they're the same person who revealed the Chris Brown MJ tribute at the American Music Awards and helped it get cancelled so it's weird how a person who doesn't even like MJ would get access to the movie script. But then the article is being backed by Jeff Sneider who's known to be a reliable movie scooper so I'm not sure what to think of it.
That's all fair enough.

It was quite interesting to read and it was good that the guy emphasised that there is no way to know which scenes will make the final cut. I mean, we've seen the photos of Jaafar doing what looks like JW door-to-door but we don't know if that will end up being cut out. We don't have enough info, at this point, about any of it so best just wait and see.

I noticed that bit about DR wanting to get his sequel out by the end of 2024.

EDIT - could have done without the 'freak-show' comment. 😠

Best to just take it with a grain of salt.
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Once again I really think that it won't go beyond 93 and end with Man in the mirror Dangeorus tour performance.
I’m fairly certain it has been confirmed that the film would chronicle his life up until his death. In general, biopics tend to do that.

So much happened between 93’ and 2009, how could anyone claim to present Michael Jackson’s story if they don’t show him as a father, husband as well show him in the moments leading up to his death.
 
I’m fairly certain it has been confirmed that the film would chronicle his life up until his death. In general, biopics tend to do that.

So much happened between 93’ and 2009, how could anyone claim to present Michael Jackson’s story if they don’t show him as a father, husband as well show him in the moments leading up to his death.
Yeah that is true but I just don't think they will have enough time to cover all of that.

The 2005 trial for example, was a massive moment , it will take up a lot of screen time if they were to include it - a little snippet at the end credit montage mentioning that he was found innocent is what I think we will get.

Maybe TII press conference will be the end? Not showing his death but MJ going out on a high selling out all those shows?
 
In my opinion, that's exactly how I want this film to be... Hard-hitting, controversial and of course entertaining yet factual. I want people to question their negative opinions. I want the whole world to be discussing this biopic.

Opening with Michael watching the police arrive would be heart wrenching but compelling. With flash backs and flash forwards telling the story of how we got to that moment and what happened afterwards.

I think this biopic is going to be more in depth than a lot of people seem to think. Of course, that's just my opinion and you're all entitled to your own.
 
So this description does offer a rather unexpected, yet very powerful start of the movie, on the other hand if the movie centers around the allegations, I do not think there will be much time nor suitable moments to focus on the joyful and the creative, as well as historic moments, such as creating some of the most iconic songs, videos and performances, like Bohemian Rapsody did. I would think showing how he came up with some of his songs, the most well known ones, would be really interesting to see.
 
So this description does offer a rather unexpected, yet very powerful start of the movie, on the other hand if the movie centers around the allegations, I do not think there will be much time nor suitable moments to focus on the joyful and the creative, as well as historic moments, such as creating some of the most iconic songs, videos and performances, like Bohemian Rapsody did. I would think showing how he came up with some of his songs, the most well known ones, would be really interesting to see.

I disagree with this. Of course there would be time for all of thart.
 
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