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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

the only way that there can be a positive resurgence of michael, is if the focus is kept on his music, and they remind people of what made him great in the first place. anything else will lead to polarising think pieces, which will question the need to cancel him or not.
 
83magic said:
the only way that there can be a positive resurgence of michael, is if the focus is kept on his music, and they remind people of what made him great in the first place. anything else will lead to polarising think pieces, which will question the need to cancel him or not.
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In theory yes but critics will not take the film seriously if the controversy doesn't get addressed, it is almost as much part of his career than his creative career. His name will forever stay polarizing, it is also part of what keeps him in the limelight. People see him as a genius but also as troubled, possibly criminal and intriguing. His life just reads like a movie script, the possibilities are endless imo

I think what you want can only be achieved by a documentary or a detailed book on his music but apart from fans who wants to consume these?

It will either way be the last time Michael will be the talk of the town, I can't think of anything else that can be done with the artist MJ. I'm going to try to enjoy it because in time also Michael will fade away from the radios and charts like Elvis. He and his brothers already told us "time waits for no one"
 
filmandmusic said:
In theory yes but critics will not take the film seriously if the controversy doesn't get addressed, it is almost as much part of his career than his creative career. His name will forever stay polarizing, it is also part of what keeps him in the limelight. People see him as a genius but also as troubled, possibly criminal and intriguing. His life just reads like a movie script, the possibilities are endless imo

I think what you want can only be achieved by a documentary or a detailed book on his music but apart from fans who wants to consume these?
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this is why the movie shouldn’t be made in the first place. it will either be sugarcoated and biased to please fans, or full of scandal to attract negative attention from the media. there needs to be a balance, and there won’t be with the family involved. michael’s story has already been told countless times in books, documentaries, etc. no good could come from rehashing it - especially in the times we’re in today.

if anything, the ‘thriller 40’ documentary will be what shifts the public focus on what made michael a legend.
 
83magic said:
this is why the movie shouldn’t be made in the first place. it will either be sugarcoated and biased to please fans, or full of scandal to attract negative attention from the media. there needs to be a balance, and there won’t be with the family involved. michael’s story has already been told countless times in books, documentaries, etc. no good could come from rehashing it - especially in the times we’re in today.

if anything, the ‘thriller 40’ documentary will be what shifts the public focus on what made michael a legend.
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I think it needs to be made in all honesty, everyone is pretty familiar with his life story but it's important for his continued legacy.

The thriller 40 documentary is of very little interest other than to the big fans like us. It won't have much reach.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
I think it needs to be made in all honesty, everyone is pretty familiar with his life story but it's important for his continued legacy.

The thriller 40 documentary is of very little interest other than to the big fans like us. It won't have much reach.
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They should adress everything, remind people he was found not guilty, explain the reason for settling, show the impact on his health. They shouldn't leave anything out, how the hell do you do that in a 2 hour movie it's impossible, Michael wasn't an angel he liked a drink, Lisa Marie said they drank beer together. Barry gibb spoke of them smoking weed when he stayed with him think it's fair to say he was controversial and that's fine.
 
83magic said:
this is why the movie shouldn’t be made in the first place. it will either be sugarcoated and biased to please fans, or full of scandal to attract negative attention from the media. there needs to be a balance, and there won’t be with the family involved.
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I'm also worried about the balance. I don't want it to be sugarcoated. But I think the negative media attention will come either way, no matter the balance in the film. What has happened in the past cannot be erased, the media will always have its say.
If LN wouldn't have happened this movie could have been a full on celebration but it isn't.
83magic said:
michael’s story has already been told countless times in books, documentaries, etc. no good could come from rehashing it - especially in the times we’re in today.
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But never for the big public. Going to the movies is what people do in weekends and if this film gets a nice window (meaning not too much competition) then people also non fans will go see this film.
83magic said:
if anything, the ‘thriller 40’ documentary will be what shifts the public focus on what made michael a legend.
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It should be good IF someone wants to broadcast it.
 
Got a couple thoughts here after reading what y'all are saying.

For one, I'm looking forward to the biopic, and I don't think we have much to worry about. Everything I've read from the writer and director of the film indicates they're gonna directly address his controversy while also placing emphasis on why he's the King of Pop. Prince said the script made him emotional, the estate is backing it and lord knows they want to clear his name (for their business purposes). Point is, I don't think we got much to worry about unless the film is the 2004 'Man in the Mirror' level of "addressing controversy" - which it won't so we're fine. I'm actually excited about it.

Then regarding the T40 doc, it's either gonna fly under the radar and be put on Amazon Prime or something, or be put on Netflix and be a semi-successful hit. My theory as to why it's taken so long to come out had to do with negotiations for streaming distributors/editing. Also, given that its discussing (I'm assuming) the creation of the album as well as it's impact culturally, it will definitely show just how famous he really was and will help in silence these annoying ass claims of people being on his level of fame. (I'm also excited cuz we're gonna get new VT 84 footage lmao)
 
I want the movie to be good enough to make me want to watch it again. And I want at least one hit from the soundtrack to hit the charts. And to promote the movie loudly so that people I know tell me they want to see it.
 
filmandmusic said:
In theory yes but critics will not take the film seriously if the controversy doesn't get addressed, it is almost as much part of his career than his creative career. His name will forever stay polarizing, it is also part of what keeps him in the limelight. People see him as a genius but also as troubled, possibly criminal and intriguing. His life just reads like a movie script, the possibilities are endless imo

I think what you want can only be achieved by a documentary or a detailed book on his music but apart from fans who wants to consume these?

It will either way be the last time Michael will be the talk of the town, I can't think of anything else that can be done with the artist MJ. I'm going to try to enjoy it because in time also Michael will fade away from the radios and charts like Elvis. He and his brothers already told us "time waits for no one"
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So this biopic will be the last big MJ project forever? Feels really strange, I really hope MJ's legacy will endure for future generations to celebrate.
 
Annita said:
I can not wait. The dance studios will be overrun to learn the MJ moves, every fitness workout will be accompanied by Michael's music, the radio stations will have at least one song per hour, his streams will go up like a rocket, there will be a new MJ hype and hopefully there will be a clear realization that the allegations of abuse were nothing more than an attempt at blackmail by money-hungry, characterless and fraudulent people.



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Lionsgate’s Michael Jackson Biopic To Be Released Internationally By Universal - MJVibe

Lionsgate and Universal Pictures International announced on Tuesday that Universal will serve as the international distributor for the film.
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Yay! I would like to join the dance studio and have a fitness workout set to MJ’s music!!!!!
 
Hot_Street said:
Only the Prince estate knows.
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No they freaking don't. Prince literally did everything possible to be completely kept off the Internet. Making hardcore anniversary releases means nothing in the context of getting hype. It's a great product though.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
The thriller 40 documentary is of very little interest other than to the big fans like us. It won't have much reach.
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@filmandmusic the public is still interested in ‘thriller’ today. this was done without any promotion from the estate
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Michael Jackson Kicks Off Halloween Season As ‘Thriller’ Returns To The Billboard Charts

"Thriller" has previously claimed the top spot on both the R&B/Hip-Hop Digital Song Sales and R&B Digital Song Sales charts.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmc...urns-to-the-billboard-charts/?sh=74c70e2c1f38
 
filmandmusic said:
I don’t know, I’m just struggling to see what else can be done with a deceased artist on this scale…
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Podcasts.

Video games. MJ the Experience 2.

Other think talks like King of Style.

Another sampler of his work.

Another album, of course.

Television.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Podcasts.

Video games. MJ the Experience 2.

Other think talks like King of Style.

Another sampler of his work.

Another album, of course.

Television.
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I would want to play Michael Jackson the Experience 2 and play Career and Tour Modes from 1970 to 2009. I can choose hairstyles, skin tones. And outfits from Jackson 5 to This Is It.
 
filmandmusic said:
None of these things are from the scale of a blockbuster movie.
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None are the same scale but all have the same potential audience size. Streaming takes a big chunk of cinemas anyway.

filmandmusic said:
Television obviously is a no go, every tv station is woke and they don't wanna potentially burn their fingers.
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First of all, that ain't real or true. Second, don't you think movies would be even more woke? If Universal is taking this gamble then Idk what to tell you. Elvis still has an audience even as they're making a film about his "odd" relationship with Priscilla.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Podcasts.
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Can't be bothered to check them out but I know there are a few Prince podcasts. Surely Michael could have some, too.

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Video games. MJ the Experience 2.

Other think talks like King of Style.
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Just as long as it's a better product. KoS was pretty awful, imo.

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Another sampler of his work.

Another album, of course.

Television.
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What did you have in mind? A more detailed biopic type thing?
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
None are the same scale but all have the same potential audience size. Streaming takes a big chunk of cinemas anyway.
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I don’t believe it, it is not even competition imo. For big blockbusters people will always go to the cinema. Prove in case Top Gun Maverick, Barbie and Oppenheimer. It’s a day out, an activity, streaming is not.
Streaming is big I agree but there is a lot of competition. In cinema there is less competition as there are only like a dozen films to watch, on streaming services there are hundreds of choices.
Movies are for all ages and backgrounds. Games for example are not. I don’t play games. Podcasts ? C’mon… be serious, it is very niche. Just recently I read that over 60% of people now have never listened to a podcast.
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
First of all, that ain't real or true. Second, don't you think movies would be even more woke?
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You can do with a movie what you want, there is a lot of freedom. Only afterwards tv can decide to not broadcast the film if they don’t agree with the content of the film. But they won‘t do that because this movie will be popular. It is very rare that a cinema complex will refuse to play a film (it only happens if the state decides so) but a tv station can easily refuse to pay for potentially damaging content. Since 2019 I havent’ seen a single documentary or tv topic about MJ. They have cancelled dozens and dozens of tv episodes that have racist undertones and they have cancelled several tv shows with people who have allegedly done sexual crimes. One of our very own biggest tv stars has been completely banned from tv after he got convicted of digital stalking.
In my opinion tv is completely woke because everybody watches tv and people can’t decide what is on tv but people can decide what movie they wanna watch in the cinema. So cinema doesn’t have to be woke. The only completely woke films are those that want to do well in the award season and at festivals like Sundance or Venice.
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
If Universal is taking this gamble then Idk what to tell you.
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It’s not a gamble, it will be a box office success, the only question is how successful? I’m hoping at the very least like the Elvis biopic but in all honesty it should be double as successful. MJ is still too fresh in people’s memories unlike Elvis.
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Elvis still has an audience even as they're making a film about his "odd" relationship with Priscilla.
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A limited audience. he doesn’t get any airplay, his movies aren’t broadcasted anymore (only sometimes Sundays on an afternoon) and his records are only minimal sellers. The movie was a success because A it’s a movie about a very influential figure B it got rave reviews and C it had great marketing. Yet it still didn’t make 300 million worldwide so I imagine it barely recouped the costs of production. All of this means he has a limited audience these days. That upcoming Priscilla movie will disappear in no time. Who cares for Priscilla? She was just the woman of a superstar. Imagine if a film goes in production about Michael’s father? Who would see that?
 
zinniabooklover said:
Can't be bothered to check them out but I know there are a few Prince podcasts. Surely Michael could have some, too.


Just as long as it's a better product. KoS was pretty awful, imo.


What did you have in mind? A more detailed biopic type thing?
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They're not my thing either, but they're somebody's thing.

I haven't seen the whole KOS but it's, idk, I don't see what they could really do there. Anyway, that's not anything to do with the viewership: 10 Million in 2 months.

And with television there's potential for anything. Yeah, more broadcasts, documentaries, biopics. Straight up cable has kinda lost its way actually. Too bad MTV/BET/VH1 have basically no influence anymore.
 
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