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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Maybe traumatized was the wrong word, affected is more definitely true. The way it's described (By Taborrelli, but still), it sounds like it bothered Michael. Being propositioned by women specifically, that's what I say traumatized him. And, it did play on him, these stories of women and love making.. You can literally hear that subtext in his work. Even up to the point of Dangerous and stuff like Superfly Sister, MJ always was enamoured by the femme fatale and the concept of, lust over romance. He seemed to have a lot to say about it. If you look at his art piece by piece you can read a lot into it if you want to. It's the closest thing to an autobiography by him we have.


Like always, these things happen later. For some reason people never talk about cause and effect. MJ got more lax, and was more lax, that would be called "loosening up". Or else maybe desensitizing. We literally know what the mans favorite girly magazines were even. I didn't say he was asexual for crying out loud. We're talking about 10 years old being around people having sex and if that's what you think is ok or normal for society. It's a loaded topic, though, I guess.
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I think people put too much stock on taboreelli's book. He clearly has his own agenda and he clearly projects his own assumptions about Michael into his book. It is not neutral or impartial.

He admitted that he found several women who claimed to have had a relationship with Michael but he dismissed them all and did not include them in the book.

And yet he included every other tabloid he rumor no matter how ridiculous. He also used Victor Gutierrez's book as a source during the parts about the chandlers. A book that even Jordan Chandler admitted was filled with lies.

It's also worth mentioning that Taborrelli is a gay male so he likely filters everything he hears and sees about Michael through that lens.

As a result his book at best, pushes the agenda that Michael was asexual, afraid of women and sex (a completely absurd stance to take) and only had sex with Lisa Marie his entire life, or at worst slyly pushes a more sinister narrative that gives guilters the amo they need to demonize Michael.

I don't know why Fans continue to promote this book as if its the end all to be all. Other than the original 1991 version which is well sourced and researched. The current and most recent versions of his book are worthless and filled with lies.

Taborelli lied about his connections to Michael for starters. He has never provided any proof that he knew Michael beyond that one picture he has of them from the late 70s. I don't believe he knew Michael personally at all. He used a classic tactic that these charlatans pull, they take a pic with a Jackson and then use the pic as "proof" they are close to Michael or the family and then use that position to spread lies and exploit the fans.

JRT writes elaborate scenes in his book that are complete with full dialogs of supposed conversations that he himself was not present for, so where is he getting it from??

Only explanation is that he's making it up and it's pure fiction.
 
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I'm not "promoting" his book.
kelley said:
I don't know why Fans continue to promote this book as if its the end all to be all. Other than the original 1991 version which is well sourced and researched. The current and most recent versions of his book are worthless and filled with lies.
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I did quote the book, but most of those early accounts are verified by a few additional sources. Anyway, it still measures up. But this 1991 version intrigues me.
 
kelley said:
I disagree completely with this. When the Jackson 5 first got famous Michael did look extremely happy. But by 1972 you can tell the fame and work was taking a toll on him. You could see it in his eyes, he looked sad and tired. The light was gone.

You can see it in videos like this. At the beginning he looks sad, during the performance his smile looks fake and his eyes look like he was about to cry the entire time.


And this video as well. He looks stressed and there is no light in his eyes.


Then there also the testimony of one of his classmates from that time. He said Michael told him "you don't know how hard I work"
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You can actually hear the change in his voice, too.
 
Not enough to draw a conclusion for me. Everybody has bad days, especially teenagers. I mentioned in another thread that he was overworked at Motown, there is no doubt about that and obviously it takes its toll.
 
filmandmusic said:
Not enough to draw a conclusion for me. Everybody has bad days, especially teenagers. I mentioned in another thread that he was overworked at Motown, there is no doubt about that and obviously it takes its toll.
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Wells theres also the fact that he himself said he was around that time.......
 
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I have no idea what happened since my last post (about ‘the jacksons an american dream’) that sparked the following conversation, but it’s gross and depressing. it’s a prime example as to why a biopic should not be made. michael’s life was tragic in so many ways. why draw attention to that? it’s a distraction from his musical legacy. besides, nobody else can play him. nobody.
 
83magic said:
I have no idea what happened since my last post (about ‘the jacksons an american dream’) that sparked the following conversation, but it’s gross and depressing. it’s a prime example as to why a biopic should not be made. michael’s life was tragic in so many ways. why draw attention to that? it’s a distraction from his musical legacy. besides, nobody else can play him. nobody.
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That's not a distraction from his musical legacy. That's literally having the means to sympathize with Michael on a grand scale. People should understand and feel bad for Michael. But they also can admire him.

Anyway, biopic. Is coming. Tickets on Pre-Sale now.
 
mj_frenzy said:
In that 'Michael' biopic, they will not document the child sexual abuse allegations against the singer, just like they did in the 'MJ: The Musical' Broadway production where they omitted that part of his life.

In that biopic, they will chronicle his musical journey through his classic songs and on-stage performances.

The only interesting thing in that biopic seems to be the portrayal of some aspects of the singer's creative process in the recording studio and while preparing for his on-stage performances.

In any case, a Michael Jackson biopic aims at the general public, rather than at his fans.

There is also a technical difficulty in any Michael Jackson biopic.

Any actor who tries to play him is going to emit a cartoonish feel due to the singer's complex personality which cannot be recreated and simplified on screen without looking slightly humorous and comical.
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Firstly, it was confirmed that "bad things" about MJ will be included too...So, allegations WILL BE in the biopic. Secondly, why so you think that MJ looked humorous and comical? He was actually a pretty handsome man
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I would put money on Dream Away being the song plays over the end credits.

I have no doubt the Estate knew nothing about it, just as we didn't, but I bet they'll be talking to Steve about trying to use that song on the soundtrack
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I highly doubt that tbh , there's more chance of that tiny snippet of water being played over the credits rather than Dream Away 😂

This film is for the casual fans , it will be the big hits and nothing else.
 
filmandmusic said:
What is invincible? I never heard of it
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Shamone!
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I doubt something we've never heard will be played, unless it's like, really powerful. Like Buffalo Bill or Throwin' Your Life Away.

HIStory though, I think will get a ton of play. MJs most personal record, Branca has gone on record to say it's his favorite, and it's a significant rebuttal to the allegations.

They Don't Care About Us
Stranger in Moscow
Earth Song
Money
Come Together
Childhood
Tabloid Junkie
Little Susie(Could only see this if they include the OTW demo/conception, but they could demonstrate that with another song)

I could see them all being included in the film in some capacity. Childhood, if anything, would be what plays over the end credits.

Also, Disc 1 of HIStory's greatest hits would be a great basis for picking which hits to include. 15 pretty important songs.
 
83magic said:
I have no idea what happened since my last post (about ‘the jacksons an american dream’) that sparked the following conversation, but it’s gross and depressing. it’s a prime example as to why a biopic should not be made. michael’s life was tragic in so many ways. why draw attention to that? it’s a distraction from his musical legacy. besides, nobody else can play him. nobody.
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That film is great. Why would they not address his childhood, and how fame and being a child star negatively affected him, how having a strict and oppressive father who's only goal was making his children succeed in the music biz and vicariously living through them by pushing and working them to achieve the stardom and riches that he was never able to reach in his own life, made Michael feel personally. How having a womanizing father and an emotionally stricken mother also affect his life at the time. And the tragedy of the Pepsi accident and wanting to then get from under the weight and toll of his family and a demanding label head in Berry Gordy had an imprint on his solo career and young adult life. You have to present the highs with the lows when it comes to creating a compelling and thoughtful film on the life of a real individual.

And Wylie Draper was a big part of the success of the television film. He was great as late teenage and young adults Michael. I think he filled the shoes pretty well. I only have high hopes for Jaafar though, even though hes not a trained actor.


And if this is the same biopic that's under the helm of Antoine Fuqua, which I believe it is, he's said the film will address the allegations. As long as its truthful and fact based and most importantly presents the multi-faceted reason for settling with The Chandlers.
 
SmileyfaceTheGuy89 said:
That film is great. Why would they not address his childhood, and how fame and being a child star negatively affected him, how having a strict and oppressive father who's only goal was making his children succeed in the music biz and vicariously living through them by pushing and working them to achieve the stardom and riches that he was never able to reach in his own life, made Michael feel personally. How having a womanizing father and an emotionally stricken mother also affect his life at the time. And the tragedy of the Pepsi accident and wanting to then get from under the weight and toll of his family and a demanding label head in Berry Gordy had an imprint on his solo career and young adult life. You have to present the highs with the lows when it comes to creating a compelling and thoughtful film on the life of a real individual.

And Wylie Draper was a big part of the success of the television film. He was great as late teenage and young adults Michael. I think he filled the shoes pretty well. I only have high hopes for Jaafar though, even though hes not a trained actor.


And if this is the same biopic that's under the helm of Antoine Fuqua, which I believe it is, he's said the film will address the allegations. As long as its truthful and fact based and most importantly presents the multi-faceted reason for settling with The Chandlers.
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‘the jacksons an american dream’ was a jackson 5 movie more than anything else. with the focus being on the motown and pre motown years. it’s not surprising since susan de passe was involved in the production.

so much time was spent on that, and how joseph and katherine met, that everything after was rushed. there was such a build up to the family leaving motown for cbs seeking creative freedom, yet none of it was shown. the movie skipped from 1975 to 1983. not one jacksons song was heard - not even on the ‘victory’ tour, which should have ended with ‘shake your body (down to the ground)’, and michael announcing that it would be their final tour.

I thought wylie draper was great at capturing michael’s teenage angst, but not his essence during ‘thriller’. another actor should have been cast for that era, because in real life michael went through significant physical changes between those years. it’s not a simple matter of just swapping wigs. wylie didn’t master michael’s speaking voice at any point. his physical build was also way to big compared to the real michael of ‘83 (and teen years).

the movie made joseph’s cheating seem like an isolated incident. there was also no mention of the child he had out of wedlock.

why wasn’t bobby taylor or gladys knight represented as discovering the jackson 5? that was a crucial moment.

I enjoyed it at the time because it was the only biopic there was. now I recognise the inaccuracies and unnecessary filler (which was always there), despite some outstanding performances from angela bassett, lawrence jacob, and jason weaver.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
The actors strike is still ongoing so until that is settled, any projects will still be delayed.
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From what I understand, TV production will be the bigger priority over theatrical movies, at least for the actors. That doesn't mean that none will be worked on, but TV shows do need new episodes. A lot of talk shows have been showing reruns for months. Even stuff like game shows & some reality shows have writers that were part of the strike.
 
83magic said:
‘the jacksons an american dream’ was a jackson 5 movie more than anything else. with the focus being on the motown and pre motown years. it’s not surprising since susan de passe was involved in the production.

so much time was spent on that, and how joseph and katherine met, that everything after was rushed. there was such a build up to the family leaving motown for cbs seeking creative freedom, yet none of it was shown. the movie skipped from 1975 to 1983. not one jacksons song was heard - not even on the ‘victory’ tour, which should have ended with ‘shake your body (down to the ground)’, and michael announcing that it would be their final tour.

I thought wylie draper was great at capturing michael’s teenage angst, but not his essence during ‘thriller’. another actor should have been cast for that era, because in real life michael went through significant physical changes between those years. it’s not a simple matter of just swapping wigs. wylie didn’t master michael’s speaking voice at any point. his physical build was also way to big compared to the real michael of ‘83 (and teen years).

the movie made joseph’s cheating seem like an isolated incident. there was also no mention of the child he had out of wedlock.

why wasn’t bobby taylor or gladys knight represented as discovering the jackson 5? that was a crucial moment.

I enjoyed it at the time because it was the only biopic there was. now I recognise the inaccuracies and unnecessary filler (which was always there), despite some outstanding performances from angela bassett, lawrence jacob, and jason weaver.
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I respect your opinion about Wylie, but they couldn't have put all that in the film. The run hour of a tv film like that would be extremely long. It already had a pretty long run time and was split into episodes, like The Temptations film. Which I also love.
 
SmileyfaceTheGuy89 said:
I respect your opinion about Wylie, but they couldn't have put all that in the film. The run hour of a tv film like that would be extremely long. It already had a pretty long run time and was split into episodes, like The Temptations film. Which I also love.
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they should have focused on the most key moments, and removed the filler to fit within the runtime. it served more like a motown promotional feature than a true jacksons story.
 
deadline.com

Lionsgate’s Michael Jackson Biopic ‘Michael’ To Be Released Internationally By Universal

The Michael Jackson biopic 'Michael' has locked Universal as its international distributor, with Lionsgate to handle domestic, as previously announced.
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Lionsgate and Universal Pictures International announced on Tuesday that Universal will serve as the international distributor for the Michael Jackson biopic Michael, starring the pop superstar’s nephew Jaafar Jackson, which we were first to report on. Uni will handle all territories apart from Japan, with Lionsgate repping the film on the domestic front.

Antoine Fuqua will direct the film from a script by three-time Oscar nominee John Logan, with Graham King (Bohemian Rhapsody) producing alongside John Branca and John McClain, the co-executors of the Michael Jackson Estate. Production is set to kick off as soon as the SAG-AFTRA strike resolves.

Michael promises to give audiences a never-before-told and in-depth portrayal of the complicated man who became the King of Pop. The film will explore all aspects of Jackson’s life, including his most iconic performances that led him to become one of the most beloved entertainers of all time.

Said Lionsgate Motion Picture Group Chair, Joe Drake, “Michael’s decades-long career left an indelible mark on the way audiences experience entertainment all over the world. We are thrilled to be partnering with our friends at Universal to give global audiences new insight into the complex life of one of the most prolific artists the world has ever known.”

Since his passing on June 25, 2009, aged 50, Jackson’s music has continued to resonate broadly, even as his legacy continues to be wrestled with. The Tony Award-winning hit MJ the Musical, based on his life, continues to play to sold-out crowds on Broadway and with its national touring company across North America, and will open on London’s coveted West End next spring, coming to Hamburg later in the year. The Cirque du Soleil-produced live stage experiences Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour and Michael Jackson ONE hold the titles of the top ten touring show of all time and top Las Vegas attraction, respectively, and Michael Jackson’s This is It remains the highest grossing concert documentary worldwide.
 
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