Merged: Psychics channel Michael

I now see what you meant, think I confused the purpose and destiny meanings. Hearing what might come up in your future would be interesting but indeed, who knows what it might destroy for you at the same time, when you live on with the thought of what is to come and to be able to change it. But then it's still the question also yeah, whether that medium is right or not...hmmm interesting. :lol:

Remember? "Every day create your history
... la la la..."

I can say: "Every day create your future..." :lol: The meaning is pretty much the same imo :lol:
 
Just ran across this article about beginning meditation, so thought I'd share it.

Meditation: To seek the peace within you, all you need is … you
http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/feb/22/just-relax-to-seek-the-peace-within-you-all-you-ne/
Oh cool...thanks for sharing!


Asedora said:
Remember? "Every day create your history
... la la la..."

I can say: "Every day create your future..." :lol: The meaning is pretty much the same imo :lol:
Haha...true true!
 
Aw you guys...I'm doing this website for a metaphysical client of mine, and she had me dig up this old song called "It's In Every One Of Us". I remember John Denver singing it with the Muppets. I'm listening to Clay Aiken's really beautiful cover of it. Thought I'd share with you guys...just 'cause it kinda goes along with what we're talking about. Listening to it makes me feel all teary and warm inside...and kinda brings back that 'homesick' feeling that I get with Human Nature. The lyrics remind me of Michael...what he taught. Makes me miss him. :cry: I can imagine him doing a cover of this song.
Aaww...that's beautiful. :boohoo:

^ Nice. Hadn't heard that song before :)

Just ran across this article about beginning meditation, so thought I'd share it.

Meditation: To seek the peace within you, all you need is … you
http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/feb/22/just-relax-to-seek-the-peace-within-you-all-you-ne/
Thankyouuu, gonna read that now!

Remember? "Every day create your history
... la la la..."

I can say: "Every day create your future..." :lol: The meaning is pretty much the same imo :lol:
Verrry true! :lol:
 
Guys, anybody ever came across “lost souls” concept? I heard about it but I have never had a chance to read anything really interesting. There are any books you know maybe?
 
^ Nice. Hadn't heard that song before :)

Just ran across this article about beginning meditation, so thought I'd share it.

Meditation: To seek the peace within you, all you need is … you
http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/feb/22/just-relax-to-seek-the-peace-within-you-all-you-ne/

Thanks for this, mjbunny :flowers: really helpful.

Been just checking back the last few pages, those books you recommended amy the one called 'Do Dead People Watch You Shower' :lol: I wanna read that, seems interesting.
 
Nice song Amy, I really like it. :)

Just ran across this article about beginning meditation, so thought I'd share it.

Meditation: To seek the peace within you, all you need is … you
http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/feb/22/just-relax-to-seek-the-peace-within-you-all-you-ne/

Thanks for this I'll have to check it out later. :)

To add to the spiritual discussion, I was never raised with any religion. No one in my immediate family are religious. My mom told me we were allowed to believe whatever we wanted. I was however exposed to Christianity by a friend and after a little while I just started questioning it.

A few years ago I was trying to find a label for myself for what I believe, but there really isn't one. I found that my beliefs come from several different belief systems without really having studied them. It was all intuitive to me.

Now I think it's important and good to look at all different perspectives. Get to know what it's like to be an Atheist, a Buddhist, or a Pastafarian :lol: because you can find a wealth of information just knowing what the other viewpoint is. I think all of them can have some merit and have bits and pieces of the real truth. I wish everyone could see it that way and not be afraid to explore and learn from others. Too many people out there are scared to actually challenge their beliefs. I think they could really learn a lot by stepping outside the box a bit.

I know I have done this before. I've looked at something taboo: example being a white supremacist site, simply for the sake of learning how these people think. Simply to understand their perspective as much as I disagree with it. I only like to probe deeply and learn.

I also thought it was interesting, I read the fan version of the Michael Jackson Tapes, and I remember Michael talking about Hitler. I thought that was interesting because I wrote a paper about Hitler in college. It was actually very interesting learning about his life, and I basically came to the same conclusion Michael did, that he was a great orator. Not "good" in the sense he was a good person, just that he knew how to present himself so that he gained many followers.

These subjects are taboo, but they're still important to learn about. Anyway, kinda getting on a tangent here so I'll stop just to say I think it's beneficial to explore all the different perspectives. But I've always been one to want to know the "why" of the way things are.
 
I don't think it's so much about earning some grand position, but just that he's progressed as far as he could here...over however many lives he's had. We all will get there too. I think it's good to keep in mind that we are all the same and there is no class system. There is no "royalty" of sorts, there is simply people that have learned/progressed further. Just like...comparing a 5th grader and a 12th grader. They are the same, and not one is better or lower than the other. The 12th grader simply has more lessons under their belt... and the 5th grader can have those lessons too, if they go through all the grades.

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For some reason I think that it has to be sort of "status" similar to royal status but not the same like royal status here on Earth. If we agree that some souls older than others, so probably they are on a different levels because their life achievements are very different? I wonder if there are any recycling “room” in astral plan for souls without any good improvements? It scary to think about it …. .
 
Guys, how many of you are concerned about "bad spirits"?

Is that a huge issue?
 
I do not know what it means. I just heard something about "lost souls". Does it mean earthbound spirits?
When I have heard of the term lost souls, it is usually in association with earthbound spirits. Earthbound spirits can be termed this because they chose, for whatever reason, to not go into the light and wander around Earth. Some feel lost, confused, or so attached to the life they just left that they hang around and lament over it.


CaptainEoLove85 said:
I think it's beneficial to explore all the different perspectives.
I completely agree.

Asedora said:
If we agree that some souls older than others, so probably they are on a different levels because their life achievements are very different? I wonder if there are any recycling “room” in astral plan for souls without any good improvements? It scary to think about it ….
Well, I think there are different levels, but that shouldn't be associated with "status" or class I think. Because we all have the same soul makeup. Nobody is better or higher...some are just more advanced in learning. This is my current opinion, anyway. Also I think each life involves lessons, whether we recognize them or not. I think every person walks away from their life having learned something and thus advancing along the line of knowledge and wisdom. Even if a soul lives their whole life doing wrong and treating others badly, as I'm sure we all have experienced in our youngest soul lives - it is still essential to our growth. The more and more lives we have that we get to experience and even act out of "bad", the more we learn the effects of our actions - not only how it affects others but how it affects ourselves, as we reincarnate to play out our karmic debt. And you can't fully understand and know love and kindness, until you experience the opposite.


DanceOfZenab1994 said:
Guys, how many of you are concerned about "bad spirits"?

Is that a huge issue?
I am not concerned at all. Nobody has to be, if they own their power. You have to know that nobody - has any power over you. Also, "bad" is really only perspective. I don't think anything is really good or bad - it's only so if you accept that as truth. Your thoughts are powerful. If there are energies/spirits around you that have an energy you don't like - don't agree with it. Don't let it in as part of your reality. Say no - and shield yourself with love and light. Just as the quote goes "nobody can make me feel inferior without my consent" - the same goes for spirits. No spirits can harm you or infiltrate your energy without your consent.
 
Guys, how many of you are concerned about "bad spirits"?

Is that a huge issue?

I few days ago I came across "negative energies" question on Bonnie Vent webside. Her answer was:

Hi Everyone,
I agree with all your comments. It is a dance and you can choose not to dance. It is not always easy but in the long run the less energy spent on those being negative the better.

There is a little visualization trick that I use that can be very effective as well. In your mind's eye put up a mirror that reflects out away from you. External negativity will bounce off the mirror and reflect back on whomever sent it. They will receive back what they sent and you will not feel them at all.

This can also be a learning experience. Try to learn something from every experience. Never feel you are a victim. You do have a choice. Educate yourself and do not let others do your thinking for you.

Take care everyone!
Bonnie
http://bonnievent.com/



Well, I think there are different levels, but that shouldn't be associated with "status" or class I think. Because we all have the same soul makeup. Nobody is better or higher...some are just more advanced in learning.

I still wish to see Michael is being a King on another side :lol: I undersand your point. It does make a perfect sense to me too.

About "lost souls" the question is why they are so connected to a physical world? Something probably holds them or stay here just because they did make their own choice?
 
About "lost souls" the question is why they are so connected to a physical world? Something probably holds them or stay here just because they did make their own choice?
It depends on the person. Some people are too attached and don't want to let go....whether it be to family, possessions, or anything else. Based on their own personal beliefs, some may think that going into the light could mean ceasing to exist...or being then being punished for their wrong doings...or never seeing the people they love and left behind on earth again. In most cases of earthbound spirits, at least that I have read, they are either confused, feel they have unfinished business they need to take care of here before they go, or are attached/addicted to their lifestyle they had when they were living. So for instance some people that may have been drug addicts and died on an overdose - may hang around earth awhile after they die, leeching onto living people who are also addicted - because they share that energy...and, they can even "posses" those who's aura's have become weakened by the drug experience to allow them in. In this way they can still feel alive/feel the high again.
 
Can anyone here imagine or have heard Michael saying
"Hey! Whatcha doing?" Does that sound like something he'd say?
 
Hi guys :)

Don't have much time right know , just wanted to see how everyone is doing...
So LOVE prayer tomorrow ha? I'll be there :D

Have a wonderful day :hug: :heart:
 
It depends on the person. Some people are too attached and don't want to let go....whether it be to family, possessions, or anything else. Based on their own personal beliefs, some may think that going into the light could mean ceasing to exist...or being then being punished for their wrong doings...or never seeing the people they love and left behind on earth again. In most cases of earthbound spirits, at least that I have read, they are either confused, feel they have unfinished business they need to take care of here before they go, or are attached/addicted to their lifestyle they had when they were living. So for instance some people that may have been drug addicts and died on an overdose - may hang around earth awhile after they die, leeching onto living people who are also addicted - because they share that energy...and, they can even "posses" those who's aura's have become weakened by the drug experience to allow them in. In this way they can still feel alive/feel the high again.

Thank you Amy. For some reason I still think that Michael is still staying close to Earth.....
 
Really enjoying this discussion guys, just wanna ask some questions that I've been musing on, maybe you can help answer it? :flowers:

I wanna talk about the idea of going into the light. If you go into the light right, can you come back to earth? Like to see people, is this possible? It may seem like a silly question but I wanna know what the difference is between going into the light and coming back to visit peeps and just staying on earth as a spirit? If you stay on earth can you go into the light at any point? Or are you essentially stuck once you reject the light? I see what y'all say about some people being attached to earth, they don't go into the light cos you know they have say..unfinished business. So I guess if you aren't really attached, no unfinished business, you just go into the light, no questions - sorry this is so blah and messy, I can't get my thoughts together atm :doh:.
So after all that spiel, my underlying question is what I said in the beginning...if you do enter the light, it is obviously possible to come back to earth right? The light for people who are free from the shackles of life and want to come back occasionally to see people? Cos I mean you can still hang out on earth occasionally even if you go into the light?
I feel so silly for asking these questions, but I mean obviously I understand all the stuff about the light etc, but these questions I've always wondered about.
Ahh sorry! This is confusing! I'm trying to type this with people talking to me, annoying! :lol:
 
Thank you Amy. For some reason I still think that Michael is still staying close to Earth.....
I think so too. There is difference between earthbound spirits that have not gone into the light, and those that have but still visit here to help their loved ones or whoever else. They may also choose to be guides for people. I think all souls come back to visit their families and do other things after they've transitioned, the term "earthbound spirits" is just generally meant for those that feel stuck or distressed... as I've come to learn anyway. Even though ultimately, many souls - whether distressed or not - still hang around here.
 
I wanna talk about the idea of going into the light. If you go into the light right, can you come back to earth? Like to see people, is this possible? It may seem like a silly question but I wanna know what the difference is between going into the light and coming back to visit peeps and just staying on earth as a spirit? If you stay on earth can you go into the light at any point? Or are you essentially stuck once you reject the light? I see what y'all say about some people being attached to earth, they don't go into the light cos you know they have say..unfinished business. So I guess if you aren't really attached, no unfinished business, you just go into the light, no questions - sorry this is so blah and messy, I can't get my thoughts together atm :doh:.
So after all that spiel, my underlying question is what I said in the beginning...if you do enter the light, it is obviously possible to come back to earth right? The light for people who are free from the shackles of life and want to come back occasionally to see people? Cos I mean you can still hang out on earth occasionally even if you go into the light?
I feel so silly for asking these questions, but I mean obviously I understand all the stuff about the light etc, but these questions I've always wondered about.
Ahh sorry! This is confusing! I'm trying to type this with people talking to me, annoying! :lol:
I answered maybe some of this in my reply to Asedora - but of course what I know is only based on what I've read/heard from multiple psychics. I still do not know a whole lot about the transitioning/going into the light thing. Hehe. From what I do understand though anyone can go into the light at any time... of course! Everything is always a choice... and you don't always have to live in the reality you've created for yourself in your mind. So a soul may die and decide they have to be punished for their wrong doings by staying stuck on Earth. They don't have to do that, but that's what they want to believe. At any time they can say no to that reality - and decide to go into the light and begin to advance and grow more. I don't think going into the light is like stepping into another world that you can't come back from. I can't say exactly what the light is as I don't know - but I think it is simply the introduction into the astral plane. Or, maybe it is like what I read in the Beginner's Guide book about our "second death" where we leave our astral body behind and move to a higher consciousness. Nothing has really changed just our energy and shift in consciousness... just like our physical death. But anyway, the bottom line to what you are asking is (as I believe it to be true) yes, anyone can come back to visit Earth....after the light, after transitioning, after whatever. :p And I mean this is made evident through psychic readings when we get in touch with old relatives that have died. Or like Bonnie how she channeled Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn is probably at the point of living in a community much like she did here now... just living her life, and learning. She may come back to visit if someone calls her though a reading...or she may even be a guide for someone here.

EDIT: I just had a thought on the subject of earthbound spirits - those that haven't gone into the light. I wonder if that always has to be negative. I wouldn't think so. Like, maybe a spirit knows it wants to and will go into the light - but first they want to take care of unfinished business - making sure their children get taken care of or whatever. In that case it would simply be like "tying up loose ends". I wonder if this is what Michael did. I remember it had been months since he died and Bonnie channeled him saying he hadn't transitioned yet. Hmm I don't know. It still rises the question though of why, even if a spirit wasn't in distress, would they not go into the light in order to clear some unfinished business - because wouldn't they still be able to do this after they've gone into the light? As I said, I'm sure we can all come back to visit Earth. I wonder where the line is there...if there even is one.
 
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I answered maybe some of this in my reply to Asedora - but of course what I know is only based on what I've read/heard from multiple psychics. I still do not know a whole lot about the transitioning/going into the light thing. Hehe. From what I do understand though anyone can go into the light at any time... of course! Everything is always a choice... and you don't always have to live in the reality you've created for yourself in your mind. So a soul may die and decide they have to be punished for their wrong doings by staying stuck on Earth. They don't have to do that, but that's what they want to believe. At any time they can say no to that reality - and decide to go into the light and begin to advance and grow more. I don't think going into the light is like stepping into another world that you can't come back from. I can't say exactly what the light is as I don't know - but I think it is simply the introduction into the astral plane. Or, maybe it is like what I read in the Beginner's Guide book about our "second death" where we leave our astral body behind and move to a higher consciousness. Nothing has really changed just our energy and shift in consciousness... just like our physical death. But anyway, the bottom line to what you are asking is (as I believe it to be true) yes, anyone can come back to visit Earth....after the light, after transitioning, after whatever. :p And I mean this is made evident through psychic readings when we get in touch with old relatives that have died. Or like Bonnie how she channeled Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn is probably at the point of living in a community much like she did here now... just living her life, and learning. She may come back to visit if someone calls her though a reading...or she may even be a guide for someone here.

Oh yeah, I did read that in your posts :lol: but my brain got ahead of myself a bit and just wanted to type.
Thanks for answering though. It all makes sense, I just wanted it clearer in my mind if you know what I mean. I guess nothing does change really, as it does say in that book, it's like a different consciousness etc.
Yeah, I see what you mean about them coming back, I mean of course I knew it was a possibility, cos spirits come back all the time, cos as you say, through psychics/mediums, I have been in contact with my grandmother. I think I knew that answer all along, I just had to write down my mental thoughts for you all :lol:
I also was just musing as to whether, other spirits who entered the light, can help those who are still attached to earth? Help them with the transition, or maybe the spirit has to learn this themselves.

This kinda stuff is really interesting. It's funny when you stop to think about life after death, like what actually awaits you, all the learning, growth, etc. The idea of creating your own reality too, I mean if you stop and think about that, it's pretty powerful, the power of thoughts, energy and all that.
I also wonder you know, about people who don't tend to believe in the spiritual side of life, I mean everyone is entitled to believe in what they want - for me, I have always been interesting in the mystical, spiritual side of life, it seems so..magical. That fascinates me too, like will those who don't believe get a surprise if they find there is life? Or will we? Or do they just exist in their own reality they created. Y'all don't have to answer this lol, I'm just throwing out my thoughts outloud. And this thread is for sure the place to do it :D

But yeah, thanks amy for your insight, v cool :flowers:

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I just had a thought on the subject of earthbound spirits - those that haven't gone into the light. I wonder if that always has to be negative. I wouldn't think so. Like, maybe a spirit knows it wants to and will go into the light - but first they want to take care of unfinished business - making sure their children get taken care of or whatever. In that case it would simply be like "tying up loose ends". I wonder if this is what Michael did. I remember it had been months since he died and Bonnie channeled him saying he hadn't transitioned yet. Hmm I don't know. It still rises the question though of why, even if a spirit wasn't in distress, would they not go into the light in order to clear some unfinished business - because wouldn't they still be able to do this after they've gone into the light? As I said, I'm sure we can all come back to visit Earth. I wonder where the line is there...if there even is one.

I think this is what I was trying to get at in my post :lol:! Like the bits in bold! Thanks amy, you said it so much more eloquently than I did!
Surely you can still tie everything up in the light? Or do you still have to be in that earthly type, non-transitional phase first? And then you can go into the light?
 
I keep hearing Michael's voice saying this.
Hay,Whatcha doing?

that's so cute :lol:

I had a great dream last night; I thought I’d share it.
So he was shaking hands with everyone outside a hotel, he was going out of that hotel, smiling and beautiful as always. I was there, happy to see him so close but I was thinking “I bet he’s gonna shake hands with a lot of people but not with me, yeap, the story of my life, lol” I was still smiling and happy to see him there, I wasn’t sad or mad but a little disappointed of my luck. I put myself out of the way so he can pass and the next thing I knew was we were hugging each other very sweetly.
He whispered something right into my ear that I didn’t get to hear so I said “whaaaat?” :lol: I think he smiled at my answer, then he whispered something again, this time I heard him pretty clear: “I love you dearly” he said (or I love you very much, or deeply I’m not sure about the last word), but my answer was the same: “whaaaaat?!”, like it was hard for me to believe but I was happy.

He smiled and whispered something else that I didn’t hear :(

That beautiful voice! Hearing him whisper right into my ear while we were holding each other was the sweetest thing I have ever felt.

In that moment my stupid brain started to analyze everything, I said to myself “maybe this is why he never was successful in relationships, nobody deserves to have this love exclusively” then I woke up :scratch:
 
I also was just musing as to whether, other spirits who entered the light, can help those who are still attached to earth? Help them with the transition, or maybe the spirit has to learn this themselves.
I wonder about this. You always hear of people on Earth that help these spirits to go into the light...like mediums and such...but what about their family/friends already on the other side? I'm sure they present themselves when the person first dies, and their "invitation is always open" but the soul has to make the choice themselves... though they can get council from people still living here.

I also wonder you know, about people who don't tend to believe in the spiritual side of life, I mean everyone is entitled to believe in what they want - for me, I have always been interesting in the mystical, spiritual side of life, it seems so..magical. That fascinates me too, like will those who don't believe get a surprise if they find there is life? Or will we? Or do they just exist in their own reality they created.
Yeah I'm curious to know more about what people who don't believe in this kind of stuff - may experience on the other side. Thus me mentioning that book a few posts back "The Atheist Afterlife" - written by the same guy who did the Beginner's Guide book. I'm sure it would be an interesting read.

Surely you can still tie everything up in the light? Or do you still have to be in that earthly type, non-transitional phase first? And then you can go into the light?
Yeah I wonder precisely that...:scratch:
 
that's so cute :lol:

I had a great dream last night; I thought I’d share it.
So he was shaking hands with everyone outside a hotel, he was going out of that hotel, smiling and beautiful as always. I was there, happy to see him so close but I was thinking “I bet he’s gonna shake hands with a lot of people but not with me, yeap, the story of my life, lol” I was still smiling and happy to see him there, I wasn’t sad or mad but a little disappointed of my luck. I put myself out of the way so he can pass and the next thing I knew was we were hugging each other very sweetly.
He whispered something right into my ear that I didn’t get to hear so I said “whaaaat?” :lol: I think he smiled at my answer, then he whispered something again, this time I heard him pretty clear: “I love you dearly” he said (or I love you very much, or deeply I’m not sure about the last word), but my answer was the same: “whaaaaat?!”, like it was hard for me to believe but I was happy.

He smiled and whispered something else that I didn’t hear :(

That beautiful voice! Hearing him whisper right into my ear while we were holding each other was the sweetest thing I have ever felt.

In that moment my stupid brain started to analyze everything, I said to myself “maybe this is why he never was successful in relationships, nobody deserves to have this love exclusively” then I woke up :scratch:

Awwwww that is so cute :wub:
Thanks for sharing!

Yeah I'm curious to know more about what people who don't believe in this kind of stuff - may experience on the other side. Thus me mentioning that book a few posts back "The Atheist Afterlife" - written by the same guy who did the Beginner's Guide book. I'm sure it would be an interesting read.

Oo, then I will check that out. It's just so..alien to me, to not *think* or believe there is nothing on the other side. But then people who don't believe probably look at people who do like, why do you think this? But I guess we're all in for surprises, no matter what we believe, nobody can be sure at all, so in a way we all could be right or wrong.
:scratch:
but yeah, thanks for the mention of the book, I will try to get it :)
 
then he whispered something again, this time I heard him pretty clear: “I love you dearly” he said (or I love you very much, or deeply I’m not sure about the last word), but my answer was the same: “whaaaaat?!”, like it was hard for me to believe but I was happy.

He smiled and whispered something else that I didn’t hear :(

That beautiful voice! Hearing him whisper right into my ear while we were holding each other was the sweetest thing I have ever felt.
Ohhh my what a wonderful dream. :wub: I have prayed and prayed for these kinds of dreams but I just don't get them. :cry:

In that moment my stupid brain started to analyze everything, I said to myself “maybe this is why he never was successful in relationships, nobody deserves to have this love exclusively” then I woke up :scratch:
Wow, keen observation! And you know what, I think you have it half right. I don't think that is was that nobody deserved to have that love exclusively - well all deserve that kind of love - and that's the reason....that we all deserved it. What I mean is, I think that in Michael's life, his love - the deep, true kind of love - couldn't just exist with one person... because it was something that was meant to be shared. People needed it...to feel that kind of love. I mean just thinking back to the experience one fan had with him on stage. She was one of the lucky YANA girls and she shared her experience where she felt like they were truly in love on stage. The energy, chemistry was there and she felt that Michael was genuinely in love with her. Most people would write this off as delusion by a crazed fan - but I don't think so. Not with Michael. I think he offered this kind of love to all of his female fans. He genuinely felt this kind of deep love for them. And because of this, alongside his loving example, he has saved lives and healed hearts. If he only offered that love to whoever he was with in a marriage or relationship, he wouldn't have helped as many I don't think.
 
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