amygrace
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I like to think there is no right or wrong...there are simply choices.But I guess we're all in for surprises, no matter what we believe, nobody can be sure at all, so in a way we all could be right or wrong.
I like to think there is no right or wrong...there are simply choices.But I guess we're all in for surprises, no matter what we believe, nobody can be sure at all, so in a way we all could be right or wrong.
Aaaaww...so adorable! Makes me think of these transcripts from the Glenda-tapes. They're not verified - some say it's fan fiction, some say it's true, but either way....the thought of him being with you, just a hug would already be enough. :heart:...
He whispered something right into my ear that I didn’t get to hear so I said “whaaaat?” :lol: I think he smiled at my answer, then he whispered something again, this time I heard him pretty clear: “I love you dearly” he said (or I love you very much, or deeply I’m not sure about the last word), but my answer was the same: “whaaaaat?!”, like it was hard for me to believe but I was happy.
He smiled and whispered something else that I didn’t hear
That beautiful voice! Hearing him whisper right into my ear while we were holding each other was the sweetest thing I have ever felt.
In that moment my stupid brain started to analyze everything, I said to myself “maybe this is why he never was successful in relationships, nobody deserves to have this love exclusively” then I woke up :scratch:
I like to think there is no right or wrong...there are simply choices.
I think so too. There is difference between earthbound spirits that have not gone into the light, and those that have but still visit here to help their loved ones or whoever else. They may also choose to be guides for people. I think all souls come back to visit their families and do other things after they've transitioned, the term "earthbound spirits" is just generally meant for those that feel stuck or distressed... as I've come to learn anyway. Even though ultimately, many souls - whether distressed or not - still hang around here.
This is the first time I've looked in here for a long time. I've had a couple of Michael dreams but one that really sticks out.
I'd watched Moonwalker for the first time in a good few years (yes I know so sue me!) and had a dream that very night. I was somewhere with lots of shops (may have been a shopping mall or something) and was with a group of 5 other young children around the same age as me in the dream, about 7-8 years old. We were all standing looking around scared and lonely. Then Michael from apparently nowhere appeared behind us and and hugged us with the most sincerely warming and heartfelt hug you could imagine. He muttered "I'm so glad I found you". We had a group hug and I suddenly felt really calm and at ease. But the strangest thing of all was the aroma. The smell of him was something that I didn't expect at all. It was a welcoming, warm and friendly smell. I can't put it properly into words but it was something completely different.
It's the only dream I didn't wanna wake up from I just didn't wanna let go
Ohhh my what a wonderful dream. :wub: I have prayed and prayed for these kinds of dreams but I just don't get them.
Wow, keen observation! And you know what, I think you have it half right. I don't think that is was that nobody deserved to have that love exclusively - well all deserve that kind of love - and that's the reason....that we all deserved it. What I mean is, I think that in Michael's life, his love - the deep, true kind of love - couldn't just exist with one person... because it was something that was meant to be shared. People needed it...to feel that kind of love. I mean just thinking back to the experience one fan had with him on stage. She was one of the lucky YANA girls and she shared her experience where she felt like they were truly in love on stage. The energy, chemistry was there and she felt that Michael was genuinely in love with her. Most people would write this off as delusion by a crazed fan - but I don't think so. Not with Michael. I think he offered this kind of love to all of his female fans. He genuinely felt this kind of deep love for them. And because of this, alongside his loving example, he has saved lives and healed hearts. If he only offered that love to whoever he was with in a marriage or relationship, he wouldn't have helped as many I don't think.
Oh man. This is one of those days for me....where it's so hard to accept that he's gone.
I know he's in a better place, but I guess it just hurts to see the aftermath still. All the fans fighting and all the accusations.
And I keep thinking about his children.
I don't know. I just miss him so much right now and I feel so disconnected.
Oh man. This is one of those days for me....where it's so hard to accept that he's gone.
I know he's in a better place, but I guess it just hurts to see the aftermath still. All the fans fighting and all the accusations.
And I keep thinking about his children.
I don't know. I just miss him so much right now and I feel so disconnected.
I wonder about this. You always hear of people on Earth that help these spirits to go into the light...like mediums and such...but what about their family/friends already on the other side? I'm sure they present themselves when the person first dies, and their "invitation is always open" but the soul has to make the choice themselves... though they can get council from people still living here.
Wow, keen observation! And you know what, I think you have it half right. I don't think that is was that nobody deserved to have that love exclusively - well all deserve that kind of love - and that's the reason....that we all deserved it. What I mean is, I think that in Michael's life, his love - the deep, true kind of love - couldn't just exist with one person... because it was something that was meant to be shared. People needed it...to feel that kind of love. I mean just thinking back to the experience one fan had with him on stage. She was one of the lucky YANA girls and she shared her experience where she felt like they were truly in love on stage. The energy, chemistry was there and she felt that Michael was genuinely in love with her. Most people would write this off as delusion by a crazed fan - but I don't think so. Not with Michael. I think he offered this kind of love to all of his female fans. He genuinely felt this kind of deep love for them. And because of this, alongside his loving example, he has saved lives and healed hearts. If he only offered that love to whoever he was with in a marriage or relationship, he wouldn't have helped as many I don't think.
:huggy::huggy:
I feel this too.
His poor little children
Watching TII yesterday really was like a punch in the gut all over again.
I've been feeling the exact same way lately. My heart just feels so empty.
Yeah I watched it the day before yesterday, cried about 4 times during it... it hurts. I hope you're doing better.
Awh hun I'm sorry you feel like that. This will pass, we all go through phases like this. We're here for you :better:
Yeah I watched it the day before yesterday, cried about 4 times during it... it hurts. I hope you're doing better.
Awh hun I'm sorry you feel like that. This will pass, we all go through phases like this. We're here for you :better:
Oh you said this perfectly...this is litterally what I've been thinking about too. This way of love he offered was just out of this world, I don't know any other human who could send out such a type of love, share it so much and make you feel connected so deeply. I'm still wondering what this all is and how he makes me feel SO in love with him. It's wonderful and amazing and so good to feel that way, but at the same time so hard to not be able to reach out to him, or well...you know..when he was here. :boohoo:Wow, keen observation! And you know what, I think you have it half right. I don't think that is was that nobody deserved to have that love exclusively - well all deserve that kind of love - and that's the reason....that we all deserved it. What I mean is, I think that in Michael's life, his love - the deep, true kind of love - couldn't just exist with one person... because it was something that was meant to be shared. People needed it...to feel that kind of love. I mean just thinking back to the experience one fan had with him on stage. She was one of the lucky YANA girls and she shared her experience where she felt like they were truly in love on stage. The energy, chemistry was there and she felt that Michael was genuinely in love with her. Most people would write this off as delusion by a crazed fan - but I don't think so. Not with Michael. I think he offered this kind of love to all of his female fans. He genuinely felt this kind of deep love for them. And because of this, alongside his loving example, he has saved lives and healed hearts. If he only offered that love to whoever he was with in a marriage or relationship, he wouldn't have helped as many I don't think.
Same here, same here. This day is rough, I've been getting it all back at me the last hour or so. Ugh.Oh man. This is one of those days for me....where it's so hard to accept that he's gone.
I know he's in a better place, but I guess it just hurts to see the aftermath still. All the fans fighting and all the accusations.
And I keep thinking about his children.
I don't know. I just miss him so much right now and I feel so disconnected.
:huggy::huggy:
I feel this too.
His poor little children
Watching TII yesterday really was like a punch in the gut all over again.
Exactly! I think this is what causes so much trouble here... with people fighting to be right, and pushing others to think the way they think, and persecuting those who don't act the way they personally believe is correct. Everyone deserves to find their own way. Live their own way. Learn on their own. That's the beauty of free will and that's the beauty of creating your own reality. I think it's good to always question...but to do that without negative judgment... and without looking down on others. To accept others beliefs that you don't agree on, as something that works for them. Just because you don't want to adopt it, doesn't mean you have to condemn them for adopting it...etc.it's like we can't ever have the freedom to be..out there without people always questioning.
Oh my... how beautiful. And to be able to smell him like that too...wow. I've been told I can smell spirits but I keep asking to smell Michael (lol) since he supposedly had a very distinct perfume he'd wear - but I haven't gotten anything get. (sigh) Thank you for sharing your dream!thrillerchild said:Michael from apparently nowhere appeared behind us and and hugged us with the most sincerely warming and heartfelt hug you could imagine. He muttered "I'm so glad I found you". We had a group hug and I suddenly felt really calm and at ease. But the strangest thing of all was the aroma. The smell of him was something that I didn't expect at all. It was a welcoming, warm and friendly smell. I can't put it properly into words but it was something completely different.
I think that seeing a tunnel has become a widely known story that's been told, much like seeing pearly gates - so if that is what people expect to experience when they die, then they will. Thus some people experiencing it and some not. I imagine when those see a tunnel though it is linked with the light/transitioning onto the astral plane.Asedora said:it looks like some souls immidiately can go trough sort of tunnel but some do not see a tunnel. A friend of mine who "died" 2 times did not see a tunnel. She just saw her dead body and ppl around.
So what I mean, probably a tunnel is a part of transtion process?
I feel you. I had one of those really lonely, missing Michael SO much times last night where all I could do was cry. And I knew, I always know he's doing ok...I just...MISS HIM! ugh.littlesparrow said:Oh man. This is one of those days for me....where it's so hard to accept that he's gone.
I know he's in a better place, but I guess it just hurts to see the aftermath still. All the fans fighting and all the accusations.
And I keep thinking about his children.
I don't know. I just miss him so much right now and I feel so disconnected.
Oh cool. I like that despite all the different books I've read by different people/psychics that have different views - I can generally find underlying concepts that back up one another.souldreamer7 said:@ amygrace I've beenn readin gthe same text as you on websites word for word. About spirits earthbound spirits the light earth bounds being attracted to you 'aura' your light.. etc.
I agree some souls, like atheists for instance, may not see other spirits because they don't accept in their reality that they would even exist. You see what you want to see.Neeve said:I think maybe souls that are confused and very attached to earth may not be able to perceive other spirits right away... I think you would have to accept the fact that you are in a different state before you can truly experience it, maybe?
He is the perfect teacher indeed! Precisely why so many look up to him... he embodied what so many of us strive to be. I'm also trying to put that love into practice too...because of his example. :heart:Neeve said:I feel like, through all this, I'm starting to go in that direction...now, of course I know Michael was way on another level in that way, but I feel like I'm starting to put that into practise, in small ways. He's a perfect teacher. :wub:
It's so powerful, and I wonder often if it would've been the same when he would have just one woman on his side...I guess that wasn't the purpose of his love after all? Hmmm.
Exactly. It's hard to even fathom, sometimes. That a human being could feel such true love for everyone in a very real way. Michael was like...an extraordinary, beautiful miracle.This way of love he offered was just out of this world, I don't know any other human who could send out such a type of love, share it so much and make you feel connected so deeply.
Yes...Michael taught me what it was like to "love someone so much it hurts"....It's wonderful and amazing and so good to feel that way, but at the same time so hard to not be able to reach out to him, or well...you know..when he was here. :boohoo:
I know! ((((((((heart: :heart)))))))))No one would believe it when someone so well-known would say 'I love you' but you just could feel it coming straight out of his heart when Michael did. There aren't even right words to describe the love that bursts out just thinking of him! :heart:
Oh my God I know......he was so connected with his children... just breaks your heart now.Asedora said:I read somewhere recently that when ppl used to invite Michael to visit them, Michael would spend hours just sitting in the conner with his small kids without really talking to anybody. Now he is gone and it looks like it VERY hard time for those poor kids:sad:
That's so sweet....those poor, poor kids. I can't imagine what they must go through, Michael was no doubt such an amazing dad. I saw some pics of the kids wearing Peter Pan outfits.....SO cute, and SO painfull to see.Me too, I keep thinking about his children. What a sad story. I read somewhere recently that when ppl used to invite Michael to visit them, Michael would spend hours just sitting in the conner with his small kids without really talking to anybody. Now he is gone and it looks like it VERY hard time for those poor kids
Yeah that's what I meant indeed. Gosh...so powerful. :heart:No, if he had just one women and shared his love just with her he would not be able to share his love with so many ppl.This is the whole point. imo
Yeah..all of this....my heart is aching literally, of love and pain and frustration and every possible emotion right now.Exactly. It's hard to even fathom, sometimes. That a human being could feel such true love for everyone in a very real way. Michael was like...an extraordinary, beautiful miracle.
Yes...Michael taught me what it was like to "love someone so much it hurts"....
I know! ((((((((heart: :heart)))))))))
Me too, I keep thinking about his children. What a sad story. I read somewhere recently that when ppl used to invite Michael to visit them, Michael would spend hours just sitting in the conner with his small kids without really talking to anybody. Now he is gone and it looks like it VERY hard time for those poor kids
I've had repeating statements like this in "his voice" in my mind sometimes. I take it as a message, like when I kept "hearing" the phrase "Do something!" I wonder what "Whatcha doing?" means. Maybe just trying to say hello or seriously asking you the question, like to make you think about your answer? Just a thought, but don't know.I keep hearing Michael's voice saying this. Hay,Whatcha doing?
Absolutely! I read a wonderful book some years ago called "Soul Rescuers" and they said they've encountered many more 'ghosts' (earthbound spirits) in countries where the prevailing belief is damnation for sins. Makes sense. And I have a slightly complicated example:It depends on the person. Some people are too attached and don't want to let go....whether it be to family, possessions, or anything else. Based on their own personal beliefs, some may think that going into the light could mean ceasing to exist...or being then being punished for their wrong doings...or never seeing the people they love and left behind on earth again.
My gut says that yes, you can come back. And there's so much evidence pointing to that, like visitations and appearances to loved ones sometimes months or even years after dying. So yes, you can come back to visit, however I doubt it's the same as it would be if you'd never left. (Probably much better for you, lol.) Now, a medium named Mary Ann Winkowski (who, like nearly all psychics have people online saying she's a total fraud... so who knows what to ever believe :rolleyes2 says that there's a window of time, like up through the funeral and then if you haven't gone on you are essentially "stuck" here and it takes someone else to call the Light for you. She can only see such spirits (those who haven't gone to the light yet). Of course, it's not like we know yet how it works, so I can't say it's right or wrong. Being terrified of ghosts and living in haunted houses in my life, I finally started wondering some years ago... hey, wait a minute... how does one end up in that condition??? :mello: Eeek! And if they can, what will happen to me??? So I've always told people and myself... as soon as you notice some stuff's going on, omg I must be dead... just GO :lol: Don't hang out to find out what happens :doh: But then maybe that's just my own fear of getting "stuck" that's speaking.I wanna talk about the idea of going into the light. If you go into the light right, can you come back to earth? Like to see people, is this possible? It may seem like a silly question but I wanna know what the difference is between going into the light and coming back to visit peeps and just staying on earth as a spirit? If you stay on earth can you go into the light at any point? Or are you essentially stuck once you reject the light?
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My gut says that yes, you can come back. And there's so much evidence pointing to that, like visitations and appearances to loved ones sometimes months or even years after dying. So yes, you can come back to visit, however I doubt it's the same as it would be if you'd never left. (Probably much better for you, lol.) Now, a medium named Mary Ann Winkowski (who, like nearly all psychics have people online saying she's a total fraud... so who knows what to ever believe :rolleyes2 says that there's a window of time, like up through the funeral and then if you haven't gone on you are essentially "stuck" here and it takes someone else to call the Light for you. She can only see such spirits (those who haven't gone to the light yet). Of course, it's not like we know yet how it works, so I can't say it's right or wrong. Being terrified of ghosts and living in haunted houses in my life, I finally started wondering some years ago... hey, wait a minute... how does one end up in that condition??? :mello: Eeek! And if they can, what will happen to me??? So I've always told people and myself... as soon as you notice some stuff's going on, omg I must be dead... just GO :lol: Don't hang out to find out what happens :doh: But then maybe that's just my own fear of getting "stuck" that's speaking.
Oh my God I know......he was so connected with his children... just breaks your heart now.
God, those kids were his life, and vice versa. It is so heartbreaking
That's so sweet....those poor, poor kids. I can't imagine what they must go through, Michael was no doubt such an amazing dad. I saw some pics of the kids wearing Peter Pan outfits.....SO cute, and SO painfull to see.
Yeah that's what I meant indeed. Gosh...so powerful. :heart:
OMG, Lucilla :wub: What an amazing dream!!!! I could just FEEL it as I read it. How sweet and amazing :heart::angel:....I put myself out of the way so he can pass and the next thing I knew was we were hugging each other very sweetly.
He whispered something right into my ear that I didn’t get to hear so I said “whaaaat?” :lol: I think he smiled at my answer, then he whispered something again, this time I heard him pretty clear: “I love you dearly” he said (or I love you very much, or deeply I’m not sure about the last word), but my answer was the same: “whaaaaat?!”, like it was hard for me to believe but I was happy. ....
That beautiful voice! Hearing him whisper right into my ear while we were holding each other was the sweetest thing I have ever felt.
Wow, did you read that here? Is there a thread? God, with the dream above and this story I flashed back to that one of mine, looking into his eyes and seeing the beams of golden light deep inside them as he said, "I LOVE YOU".... Oh, Michael, I love you so much :flowers:I mean just thinking back to the experience one fan had with him on stage. She was one of the lucky YANA girls and she shared her experience where she felt like they were truly in love on stage. The energy, chemistry was there and she felt that Michael was genuinely in love with her. Most people would write this off as delusion by a crazed fan - but I don't think so.
Then Michael from apparently nowhere appeared behind us and and hugged us with the most sincerely warming and heartfelt hug you could imagine. He muttered "I'm so glad I found you". We had a group hug and I suddenly felt really calm and at ease. But the strangest thing of all was the aroma. The smell of him was something that I didn't expect at all. It was a welcoming, warm and friendly smell. I can't put it properly into words but it was something completely different.]:swoon: Another amazing dream. :boohoo: That sounds sooo wonderful.
And oh! It reminded me of something the other night. I was sitting here at the computer and all of a sudden I got this big whiff of perfume/cologne. It was like something I remembered but couldn't quite place. I'm not saying it was Michael... I don't know what happened there. I have BaV and Black Orchid... not those. This was like a smooth, rich and amazing men's cologne. It was so familiar on some level and I sucked in another breath through my nose to get a better smell and... it was gone. Just gone. (And I'm nowhere near a window or door that a passerby's cologne could waft in through. Not unless they're an angel flying by at roof level :lol
There are too many 'missing Michael' posts to quote, so to all of you.... :hug: I know. I've also been kind of disconnected lately. It's ironic that I'll spend hours working on the MLP site, Facebook, etc, promoting it and so on. Just paying attention to Michael-related pages without feeling much (in work mode, you know) and then there will come some point where it's like..... .... oh Michael... :heart: I'm really looking forward to tomorrow and the prayer. I need it too. Big time.
If I see what I want and expect then it will be a white light that suddenly grows from the corner of the room to which I'll feel drawn. And then suddenly I'll begin to see that Michael is standing there in the light with his hand reached out for me. I'll go without the slightest protest then. Have you guys seen the movie 'City of Angels'? I haven't for a long time, but I remember that Seth, the angel, comes to take a little girl to heaven and he asks her the same question he asks everyone: "What did you like best (about life)?" She answers, "Pajamas." :lol: I know the 'correct' answer from an adult would be something like "love", "nature" or even "enchiladas" if you want to be funny, but anytime I watched that movie the first thing that came to my mind was: "Michael Jackson" :angel:I think that seeing a tunnel has become a widely known story that's been told, much like seeing pearly gates - so if that is what people expect to experience when they die, then they will. Thus some people experiencing it and some not. I imagine when those see a tunnel though it is linked with the light/transitioning onto the astral plane.
Oh God, I know :no:I can read sadness in Blankets' eyes. This kid does not smile anymore
Yes, me and my two friends. Because of the group we were in (energy work, etc), we helped out for things like this sometimes. It's a long story and I've lived in some really freaky places, and this time was our first group "house cleaning" experience. Even at the time I thought, "Did I really just have a convo with a ghost? My God, what if we're collectively making this whole story up?" But when we later heard the male voice on the tape (which we didn't hear in person) and then how a sign on a door was swinging when the man was angry and how my eardrum about got blown out when the woman tried to "talk" to me (physically --- um, hello, I can't hear you like that! It was like... kind of like MJ explained in TII about the in-the-ear thingies, lol... like a fist going into my eardrum...:bugeyed) and then how all four of us knew the second the woman and child left (I mean... whoosh... it was like a wind gust made of invisible light just swooped through the place!) and then the final absolute and completely, drastically noticeable change in energy when the man left. And then the residents had no more problems. So we're all crazy or it worked :lol:MJbunny Your story about this haunted house sounds really interesting and scary. I wonder how did ppl get the whole story about those spirits? A medium worked there or something?
Very interesting story and experience...cool that you caught his voice on tape! Wow. I've read similar stories like this in other books - yours reminded me of one that was almost exactly the same situation...only more sad. This man had killed his wife and his child, then shot himself. They all stayed in the house as earthbound spirits for years - I can't remember why the man didn't want to leave, but he wouldn't let the child and mother go...even though they both wanted to. Obviously, they could have left him anyway - but they feared him in the same way they feared him in their life. :no: So that's another example of how you create your own reality. He didn't have any power over them but they believed he did - and so they lived with that.About 10 years ago two friends and I were called to a haunted house where the residents were terrified, to get the ghosties out. Long story short, there were three spirits in the house. There was a man, a woman and child (who had something like Down's Syndrome). The woman spirit desperately wanted to go to the Light to see her relatives and friends, but she refused to go without her child (who mostly hid upstairs in the closet). The husband was keeping him there, keeping the little boy spirit away from his mother so she wouldn't take off with him. His reason was that he was terrified that they'd all be separated 'over there'.
That made me think of getting on the little sky rails when out skiing. :lol: But seriously, I think that if you don't want to be stuck, you simply won't be. I don't think there's a special window of opportunity you have to seize or you'll miss it.So I've always told people and myself... as soon as you notice some stuff's going on, omg I must be dead... just GO :lol: Don't hang out to find out what happens :doh: But then maybe that's just my own fear of getting "stuck" that's speaking.
.... that would be about my ideal scenario too. Only it would play out like the little girl who ran up to hug Michael in 'Moonwalker'. BIG squeeze...tears of joy...and a sigh of relief in complete happiness for seeing him again. Ohh....I want that now....:boohoo:If I see what I want and expect then it will be a white light that suddenly grows from the corner of the room to which I'll feel drawn. And then suddenly I'll begin to see that Michael is standing there in the light with his hand reached out for me. I'll go without the slightest protest then.
I LOVE City of Angels...I forgot all about that movie. I am totally watching that tonight. I loved that part about asking what people liked best too...when I first saw this movie, pajamas would have been my answer too. For realz. haha. But now...I'm with you sister, MICHAEL. Michael all the way.Have you guys seen the movie 'City of Angels'? I haven't for a long time, but I remember that Seth, the angel, comes to take a little girl to heaven and he asks her the same question he asks everyone: "What did you like best (about life)?" She answers, "Pajamas." :lol: I know the 'correct' answer from an adult would be something like "love", "nature" or even "enchiladas" if you want to be funny, but anytime I watched that movie the first thing that came to my mind was: "Michael Jackson" :angel: