Jackson family tribute concert / October 8th, 2011 / Initial details @ post 87

[gerryevans]

I think the J's know perfectly well what they are doing. It's a win/win situation for them and the promoter. Or it should have been.

I don't know. I don't think the Jacksons knew how bogus "the galaxy of stars" roster was. I do believe they thought "additiional" A-listers would sign up once the concert was announced, but they most likely thought a lot ot them had already made a firm commitment.

 

[MJStorm]

There may be some hype in the US but there will be zero hype everywhere else in the world. To organise this concert on 8th October to try and take advantage of the Cirque hype would be a very short sighted and uninformed thing to do. It doesn't make any sense to me at all because nobody outside the US cares about Cirque. When it tours the world then other countries will take interest, but until then it won't even make the news.

:wtf2 :stretcher

mg: How same people can say such :bs:

I don't live in USA and Cirque is very famous.

 

[~Lindsey~]

Yep, people are still forking over money for anything with Michael's name attached...

 

[Ben]

I don't know. I don't think the Jacksons knew how bogus "the galaxy of stars" roster was. I do believe they thought "additional" A-listers would sign up once the concert was announced, but they most likely thought a lot ot them had already made a firm commitment.

My idea (I speculate) : the J's were approached in April by those j*** saying they wanted to have this tribute, blah blah. And that they would be paid to "rent" their name so that more ppl would come. The J's agreed, except for those we know. I believe it's plausible they knew no one was booked yet, but they thought stars would fight to perform b/c of course, tickets would sell like crazy (Michael's name, fans are hysterical idiots, charity thing, family approved). And when the big controversy arose, the j*** turned to KJ, and told her she had to do something, otherwise, no concert, hence no $. Then these ridiculous begging invitations.

 

[Justthefacts]

Depending on how the judge wants things there may be court on Saturday. My issue is at the very least it looks bad.

 

[Ashtanga]

Bla bla bla....

For me it really does not matter -_- .... If the Jackson family is involved, is certain to be a mess and I can not really support that. Look at this tribute :fear: :doh: ... Look at this family... as each day that passes they are losing more and more the respect from the fans.... :doh:

It's all sooooooooooo crazy!

The circus is armed :fear: and I wish much luck to all involved and I hope that all artists do not regret later for having participated of this. As for me, not for free I would watch this tribute. uke: I'd rather spend my money to go watch the Cirque that I know will be a worthy tribute. -_-

I'm really tired of all the mess of the Jackson family. Everything they do, do they look like crazy. Shame and disappointment. :sigh: *big sigh*

*Now... Leaving this thread.... *

 

[ivy]

That is melodramatic and you know it. They are not going to be partying away as you portend. They are going to one concert where they hear the music and listen to stories of those who were affected by that very loved one. You have no idea how difficult the trial must be for them. Yet you sit there in judgement. Eveyone needs a time to separate themselves from the events of that trial. To not allow them one night to do this is ridiculous. Don't act as if you won't do the same. To say everyone has to done sackcloth and be hermits the whole time of the trial is taking taway the differences in people and how they cope. You act as if they will be spending the entire trial at concerts, when that is simply not true.

I didn't want this to get personal but I lost my grandfather in a hit and run by a drunk driver and lived through IVM and civil trials so I do have an idea. Life as we know it as a family had came to stop and nothing else mattered. I can clearly say if it was my family member, I wouldn't do the same. Because you know why? When you feel that your loved one is taken from you early and unfairly, all you want to see is that the person responsible pays for what they have done. and yes the trial is difficult , painful, nerve wrecking and every other adjective that you can think of but you brave through it because it's not about you or how you feel but the person that is lost and cannot speak for themselves.

but on the other hand I guess Jacksons attendance can be explained by that they don't seem to blame Murray.

 

[Anniesnotokmj]

BINGO!!! Your last line Ivy says it ALL!...

I didn't want this to get personal but I lost my grandfather in a drunk driving accident and lived through IVM and civil trials so I do have an idea. Life as we know it as a family had came to stop and nothing else mattered. I can clearly say if it was my family member, I wouldn't do the same. Because you know why? When you feel that your loved one is taken from you early and unfairly, all you want to see is that the person responsible pays for what they have done. and yes the trial is difficult , painful, nerve wrecking and every other adjective that you can think off but you brave through it because it's not about you or how you feel but the person that is lost and cannot speak for themselves.

but on the other hand I guess Jacksons attendance can be explained by that they don't seem to blame Murray.

 

[MJStorm]

but on the other hand I guess Jacksons attendance can be explained by that they don't seem to blame Murray.

I guess Jacksons attendance can be explained by that they are a bunch of !@#%@#$.

That family is sick.

 

[love is magical]

Ok, I get it, you're a Jackson family fan...that's your perogative.

I refuse to ridicule and trash someone that I have never met. I refuse to judge a person without really knowing that person. If that makes me a Jackson family fan, then so be it.

Your assumption that I'm a Jackson family fan and that's my perogative is uncalled for. I happen to be a Michael Jackson fan who try to be respectful to his family. I honestly don't think he would have approved all the public ridicule here.

There is no reason for you to label me.

But, if my mother is wrong, she's wrong, and she would rather I tell her, than someone else!

Exactly! If my mother is wrong, I'd tell her and I would not appreicate a total stranger to judge her. None of us is in the position to judge Katherine Jackson.

I'm a Michael Jackson fan, NOT Katherine Jackson, or Jackson clan fan, so my allegiance is to MICHAEL, noone else. Yall need to stop trying to bring MJ into a convo everytime someone criticises the crap this family is doing. MJ NEVER treated his fans the way these people have!

Same here. I'm a Michael Jackson fan. I'm not a Katherine Jackson fan. Am I the only one who brought Michael into this discussion? Hello! Everyone here is bringing Michael into the discussion when talking about his family.

We're all complex individuals, but the image you put out there, is what people see and form opinion on. If she didn't want that perceptions, she should have stayed behind the scenes like she was when MJ was alive, but she can't now, because the race horse/meal ticket is gone.

Do you realize how horrible your double standard is? We condemn people who judge Michael without understanding his heart. Michael was so misunderstood because many people judge him by his image - a reclusive superstar who lost track of reality. Now, you said it's okay for us to do the same to others? I'm sorry. I refuse to do what I don't want others to do to Michael.

Also, I will say it again, Katherine Jackson and LaToya Jackson HAVE been prostituting MJ's children to the media for money! The FACTS speak for themselves...We don't have to shit, just look, observe, and look again...It's quite obvious too, for those who aren't blinded by the last name JACKSON. Anytime they need publicity, PPB's name are brought up, or they are selling pics or calling the paparazzi telling them where these kids are, to get the pics. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this.

You can say whatever you want. No matter how frustrated and angry you are, your action will not change one thing. The children will still be raised by Katherine. The children will still grow up loving their grandmother. The children will still call LaToya auntie. To them, we are just strangers.

And, you just made an assumption and accussation as well, claiming these kids are in a SAFE enivronment...How do YOU know that!? You don't! If it was all that safe and condusive, DFS wouldn't have had to intervene. I don't call manipulating and using your deceased son's children for your and your families benefit, a SAFE enivronment. They're doing the same thing to these kids, that they did to MJ, and we ALL see how that turned out, HE'S DEAD!

Unlike you, I did not make one single accusation. If the living environment is so dangerous, how come there is no follow up action from DCFS?

 

[knigofpop]

Wouldn't we all want to be apart of something like this (obviously with an MJ song instead of this but you get the idea :

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Good points well made. The Mercury tribute is the benchmark and I had been waiting for the MJ Estate to organise something on the same scale but they didn't - it's loooong overdue!

However the Jacksons' announcement wasn't very convincing from the start and very few people in the fan community could put much faith in it. It seems like that attitude has been justified.

This is something I have always looked back on and dreamed that one day there would be a tribute concert on this scale, for Michael.

Sure the timing is bad, the dates are all wrong and the organisation has got off on a bad foot... In fact, the Freddie Mercury tribute line up was only announced days before the event... LIVE AID had problem after problem and went on to become arguably the greatest rock concert of all time!!! The guys organising this event (not the family), have an enormous business to protect... they won't screw this up (at least, i'm sure they don't want too)!!!

Sure people will make money... people always do!! Are you telling me that when Michael organised MJandFriends, nobody profited? Of course they did.... Marcel Avram for sure did!! And thats how business works!! But... huge amounts of money will be given to charity and good will be done by this... I'm sure of that!

I have been a Michael Jackson fan for many years now (I'm 30 btw) and have been a member of this forum for a while... I was at the trial, I was at the memorial... I am a huge fan and not here to promote this concert but I am looking forward to it!!!

So maybe it will just be myself and my daughter in that stadium, Beth is 9 years old and never got the chance to see Michael live in concert, or to feel that level of love... but we will be there on Oct 8th and we will enjoy listening to some great artists singing the worlds most amazing music!!!!

Yes... the trial is important and I for one will be glued to the internet following that thing like a flea on a dog...

But I just hope when myself and my daughter arrive at the Millenium Stadium... 80,000 people will stand behind us so that my daughter can see first hand, the love that the world has for the King of Pop!!!!

 

[AngieJ]

I still can't believe they're going through with this.

 

[MJStorm]

Your assumption that I'm a Jackson family fan and that's my perogative is uncalled for.

:lmao:

 

[Big Apple2]

but on the other hand I guess Jacksons attendance can be explained by that they don't seem to blame Murray.

He might even get VIP tickets and be seated next to LaToya. You know, since she feels so sorry for the murderer!

Clasping hands, while the brothers sing "We Are The World."

 

[love is magical]

This is something I have always looked back on and dreamed that one day there would be a tribute concert on this scale, for Michael.

Sure the timing is bad, the dates are all wrong and the organisation has got off on a bad foot... In fact, the Freddie Mercury tribute line up was only announced days before the event... LIVE AID had problem after problem and went on to become arguably the greatest rock concert of all time!!! The guys organising this event (not the family), have an enormous business to protect... they won't screw this up (at least, i'm sure they don't want too)!!!

Sure people will make money... people always do!! Are you telling me that when Michael organised MJandFriends, nobody profited? Of course they did.... Marcel Avram for sure did!! And thats how business works!! But... huge amounts of money will be given to charity and good will be done by this... I'm sure of that!

I have been a Michael Jackson fan for many years now (I'm 30 btw) and have been a member of this forum for a while... I was at the trial, I was at the memorial... I am a huge fan and not here to promote this concert but I am looking forward to it!!!

So maybe it will just be myself and my daughter in that stadium, Beth is 9 years old and never got the chance to see Michael live in concert, or to feel that level of love... but we will be there on Oct 8th and we will enjoy listening to some great artists singing the worlds most amazing music!!!!

Yes... the trial is important and I for one will be glued to the internet following that thing like a flea on a dog...

But I just hope when myself and my daughter arrive at the Millenium Stadium... 80,000 people will stand behind us so that my daughter can see first hand, the love that the world has for the King of Pop!!!!

May you have a wonderful time! Wish that you and your daughter will come out of the event with wonderful memory.

 

[ilmjj]

I agree with Ginvid. I dislike the idea that the family did not work with the Estate in organizing the tribute. I dislike the ticketing situation. However, I have no reason to want this tribute to fail. Actually, I want this tribute to work out.

It's not my position to judge any one of the family members. Just because they spend one night away from the courtroom does not mean they don't have Michael's justice in their hearts. I actually find it unbelievable that so many of you are so judgmental on someone you don't even know. It's extremely unfair to think it's not going to hurt Katherine and the family to sit through the trial. We are talking about a mother who is going to listen all the details surrounding her son's death. It's the most cruel thing I can think of to a mother. And, if she wants to spend a weekend away and celebate her son's legacy, what really is so wrong about it? Katherine Jackson may not have good judgement in the business area. But, is being a bad business woman make her an evil woman? Some of the criticism here towards her has become out of control. The people who know her (including Michael's lawyers in the 2005 trial) have only good things to say about her. It's only the people who have never met her who are bashing her continuously.

I said it before and I'll repeat. If people can enjoy themselves in the Cirque du Soleil show, people can also enjoy themselves in the tribute concert. Spending one night in a concert or a show during a two-month long trial is nothing disrespectful.

The organizers still have two months to work on the tribute. Why can't we just wait and see? So many of you prematurely deem the tribute a failure already.

Don't you think the Cascio family has been judged and found guilty by some here? Does anybody know them?

 

[myosotis]

Back on the facebook site they are really trying the hard sell, it is quite sad to watch:

I wonder how many more little scripted question and answer sessions there will be.


FB1: I have registered for 2 tickets. If I get them and decide not to buy with they be allocated to someone else? Further acts to be announced. I might regret not gettings tickets if some greater acts are lined up later on after registration closes.

Michael Forever Tribute: I'm afraid that the tickets will be reallocated if you don't purchase them within the provided time slot but it is my understanding that all of the acts will be announced before the ticket purchase process opens. I hope that helps and good luck!
8 minutes ago ·

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Ppl get judged on their actions. Therefore u dont have to personally know someone to form an opinion as u are basing your opinion on the actions of the individual.

 

[Krshna28]

Alien Ant Farm...............you've got to be kidding me..........

They mutilated Smooth Criminal..........



And who the hell are he next generation Jacksons??????..........

If that includes any of Michael's children........they'll be hell to pay..........



But to be honest you can't do a tribute for a King if no other royalty bothers to turn up........

......I'm talking about artists like the Queen Of Pop herself, Madonna!!!!!

 

[ginvid]

They are not JUST promoting and attending. They are being handsomely paid to help a bunch of thieves milking the fat MJ cow.


And, as Annie said, as long as you make your actions public, expect people to express their opinion about it. I'm not judging their private lives.

Where did I say people cannot express their opinions about things? I can tell you where, never. There is a point where things transfer over from just becoming an opinion of disdain and things becoming a slaughter. Many of the comments in this thread are a slaughter of everyone involved in this, even when they are not to blame, just because they are unhappy with particular aspects of it.

I repeat again, this has been what I have been commenting on. As i said before, everyone will feel differntly about what is taking place. Who am I to say they cannot express that? Howver, when things just turn to being mean spirited, I am going to comment as well.

 

[Anniesnotokmj]

I see I'm going in circles...grief. As I said before, Katherine made herself open for opinions when she stepped out herself into the public. That was HER choice.

And you're right, I can say whatever I want, just like YOU, and it wont change my opinion or yours. I could care less about the children loving their grandmother, that's their business, and they should, so come off of it. And as for LaToya being called Auntie, it's a sad state when these kids will hear, see, and realize all the crap their AUNTIE has said about them and their father, I can only imagine the psychological issues that will/may cause, but you're right, as long as they're being raised by Katherine, everything is honky-dory(sarcasm).

You can say whatever you want. No matter how frustrated and angry you are, your action will not change one thing. The children will still be raised by Katherine. The children will still grow up loving their grandmother. The children will still call LaToya auntie. To them, we are just strangers.



Unlike you, I did not make one single accusation. If the living environment is so dangerous, how come there is no follow up action from DCFS?[/QUOTE]

Oh but my dear, you did. Your accussation was that they were in a SAFE environment. That is an accussation and assumption, no matter how you want to look at it. How do YOU know DCFS isn't still watching? And I would call having a 12 or 13 year old order and have a stun gun delivered to a house OVERFILLED with kids, whose own parents don't want to raise them, an unsafe environment, and apparently DCFS thought so as well, hence them seizing that stun gun, and ordering her to pair down the number of people slumming in one house.

I refuse to ridicule and trash someone that I have never met. I refuse to judge a person without really knowing that person. If that makes me a Jackson family fan, then so be it.

Your assumption that I'm a Jackson family fan and that's my perogative is uncalled for. I happen to be a Michael Jackson fan who try to be respectful to his family. I honestly don't think he would have approved all the public ridicule here.

There is no reason for you to label me.



Exactly! If my mother is wrong, I'd tell her and I would not appreicate a total stranger to judge her. None of us is in the position to judge Katherine Jackson.



Same here. I'm a Michael Jackson fan. I'm not a Katherine Jackson fan. Am I the only one who brought Michael into this discussion? Hello! Everyone here is bringing Michael into the discussion when talking about his family.




Do you realize how horrible your double standard is? We condemn people who judge Michael without understanding his heart. Michael was so misunderstood because many people judge him by his image - a reclusive superstar who lost track of reality. Now, you said it's okay for us to do the same to others? I'm sorry. I refuse to do what I don't want others to do to Michael.



You can say whatever you want. No matter how frustrated and angry you are, your action will not change one thing. The children will still be raised by Katherine. The children will still grow up loving their grandmother. The children will still call LaToya auntie. To them, we are just strangers.



Unlike you, I did not make one single accusation. If the living environment is so dangerous, how come there is no follow up action from DCFS?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Alien Ant Farm...............you've got to be kidding me..........They mutilated Smooth Criminal..........And who the hell are he next generation Jacksons??????..........If that includes any of Michael's children........they'll be hell to pay..........But to be honest you can't do a tribute for a King if no other royalty bothers to turn up..............I'm talking about artists like the Queen Of Pop herself, Madonna!!!!!

hopefully the estate will organise one as they said they would with artists who will do justice to mjs name and so this joke doesnt go down in the history books as the only tribute mj was worthy of

 

[marebear]

I don't know. It's just not the tribute I imagined done for Michael. No direspect to the artists involved but this is Michael Jackson. The greatest entertainer ever and there should be the top people/stars of today involved. Especially when they all said how much Michael inspired or meant a lot to them. None of them are invovled. I don't like that the estate isn't involved either.

 

[marebear]

hopefully the estate will organise one as they said they would with artists who will do justice to mjs name and so this joke doesnt go down in the history books as the only tribute mj was worthy of

I hope so. I hope this isn't the only tribute.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Yeah its insulting to mj and as normal his name is the one that will be ridiculed and attacked by the media.not that it matters aslong as the family get a pay day.just another example of what has gone on for the last two years

 

[bluetopez]

"The next gereration of Jacksons"...Gee, I'm so happy that after MJ's death their never heard of careers can now florish! h34r: Same goes to the left overs of the forgotten members of the J5 and 3T....:rofl: Welcome back! :smilerolleyes:

 

[xthunderx2]

ok well I got my answer that I was looking for...I tweeted the Mjonlineteam to ask them what their thoughts were about the MJ tribute concert that is going to take place. There response to me was..."The Estate is not involved". So that tells me that the Jacksons have been given free reign to do what it is they want to do. I was hoping the Estate would step in and stop this nonsense and provide a tribute at a more appropraite time...I guess that will NEVER happen.and I better stop holding my breath. o from this point on out..my attiitude is this. Let them have their damn tribute concert...nothing I do or say will stop them..they DONT CARE what fans think..that is obvious. So for those that will attend...Have a good time...for those of us that wont because we dont feel that the time is right...I am sure that there is somthing else that we the fans can do after the trial that will bring more honor to the name Michael Jackson...maybe start a HUGE donation drive or somthing.....somthing MJ himself would be proud of.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I hope so. I hope this isn't the only tribute.

Thats all we can hope for.or that this show never happens

 

[marebear]

Thats all we can hope for.or that this show never happens

I feel like if this turns into a disaster or disappointment that the media will trash Michael and say that no one wants to do a tribute for him. I want him to have the best.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

ok well I got my answer that I was looking for...I tweeted the Mjonlineteam to ask them what their thoughts were about the MJ tribute concert that is going to take place. There response to me was..."The Estate is not involved". So that tells me that the Jacksons have been given free reign to do what it is they want to do. I was hoping the Estate would step in and stop this nonsense and provide a tribute at a more appropraite time...I guess that will NEVER happen.and I better stop holding my breath. o from this point on out..my attiitude is this. Let them have their damn tribute concert...nothing I do or say will stop them..they DONT CARE what fans think..that is obvious. So for those that will attend...Have a good time...for those of us that wont because we dont feel that the time is right...I am sure that there is somthing else that we the fans can do after the trial that will bring more honor to the name Michael Jackson...maybe start a HUGE donation drive or somthing.....somthing MJ himself would be proud of.

legally they cant do anything.but theres nothing to say they wont organise a real tribute in the future.they have mentioned doing one previously.the jacksons wont work with the estate as they will make no money out of it then.so i doubt the estate could even get involved in this.the family wouldnt want it