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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I can't help but laugh at some of the comments because it reminds me of the Mom in the "Black or White" video and she is reading a slander sheet. Now does the Mom of Mack believe the slander sheet or does she take it with a grain of salt?

Is she just a bored housewife with time on her hands, as her husband is completely enamoured with his baseball team and baseball games.

That's why we as fan's of Michael Jackson are defending the truth and not just because someone from a slander sheet tells us what is right or wrong. We glean through various periodicals to bind our souls to the details of accuracy and nothing less and we will not be insulted, our intelligence by mediocre garbage.

Michael sang about 'respect' not given, it's earned,' because paparazzi want to twist and turn the truth and the man that Michael Jackson truly is. So eat this Wade Robson!


 
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terrell said:
Baby, NO one of importance is paying this mess no attention. NO one knows Stacy Brown but us and tabloid people. Last night, Julia got a great applause for doing MJ. And the BIllboard, many were talkin how good the show was and what Tracy and Chris Did (Dee dee a radio host, did not think Chris did MJ good. LOL. WE know there is only ONE MJ). They are NOT going to hurt MJ no more. Yes,it makes you angry but I see no one of importance care about these clowns. I am listening to the radio now and as I speak MJ song HUman nature is on. Yes, MJ I know you are listening.
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Sorry, but who's Julia?
Thanks
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^ I think terrell means Judith Hill and her performance on Voice paying tribute to MJ
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Big Apple2 said:
No they don't care! I gave up on them a long, long time ago.

The day that Michael died, the very first thing I see on television when I got home from work, was Brian Oxman talking about "WE knew this was going to happen." And the drug talk continued. I said to myself: "the Jackson family is gonna kick his butt." Took me a minute or so to see that the Jacksons weren't going to do a dang thing, and that Oxman was in cahoots with them. That's when I washed my hand's of the entire Jackson tribe.

Now let something happen that involves money and they will take to their various Twitter accounts faster than you can say "Billie Jean."
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I hope they don't win a penny they are all leeches, Isn't about Michael's health or negligence its about making money from him once again all his life he was used and abused when all he did was try to do good
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't think fans fighting against tabloids or even Wade Robsons claims here are giving those more truth.
We're different so we deal with things differently.
However I do agree with those saying in here, noone pays attention to this aside from fans, well and maybe Wade Robson, his family, his attorneys and the attorneys of the estate and some DA?!

I can't imagine WRs claims will make it through... as he has proven only one point for sure, he is a liar.

Me as a psychologist, with a diploma in neuropsychology... sorry but if it wouldn't be so disgusting I'd laugh about WR. So I decided for myself to keep away from it. It's ridiculous! And someone making a joke out of himself so publicly doesn't deserve my attention.
However if someone, anyone whom I can still take serious wants to talk about it with me, or would start to believe it, I would talk... because there is some truth in: If you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it!

But it's not worth it to spend my precious time with negativity or lies, or tabloids or all of it together... if those ppl who talk about it all do not believe it anyways. Then I can easily spend my time with positive stuff better.

However this is a discussion board... so I'd always vote for let the fans discuss whatever makes them happy to discuss!
We can all make our own personal choices in taking part or even not, can't we?!

As I'm sometimes reading here, I'd just like to ask everybody to stay on topic and not mix it up too much with other topics about the Jacksons, or the trial. I know there's speculation about if Wade Robson made his claims to taunt Michaels image for AEG... but that is only speculation. I don't think even AEGentertainment would hire him after this anymore. Probably noone will.
 
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Vici said:
^^ I think terrell means Judith Hill and her performance on Voice paying tribute to MJ
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Yes, Thank you for the correction.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
I want Rebbie to call Stacy out also. But unfortunately, she doesn't say anything to defend Michael at all. She went on all those talk shows in 2003 or 2004 being snarky about Michael and complaining that the whole allegations mess around him was causing difficulties for her kids in school with the other kids making fun of them because Michael was their uncle. And she didn't say anything when Stacy, if I remember correctly, wrote an article basically talking bad about the family (and especially Michael) after Rebbie's husband died. It's a real shame that she could still be friends with Stacy after all of that.


I wish that fans were not always classified as people who think of Michael as some saint. I know that Michael was human and he made mistakes. But I'm tired of Michael being talked about like he was the worst person to ever live. Just look at how the media talk about him. I believe they rarely (if ever) have anything positive to say. And I also think that they temper any positivity about Michael with a mean comment or a spiteful swipe at his public relations troubles or his music. To hear them talk, somebody who didn't know better would think that this man never did anything right in his whole life. I think that Wade believes he will get somewhere with his claims because he doesn't really have to prove anything he's saying and also because he knows that the allegations mess is still a huge thorn in the side of Michael's legacy. And I don't believe he would be pushing this trash if so many people didn't already think that Michael was guilty.
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I agree. I never thought MJ was perfect (heck I am not perfect and neither is Stacy. I think Stacy was jealous of MJ to bring that issue of being "perfect" up. That is often a sign of someone who is insecure of someone. Does Stacy Fear MJ gets more respect than him? I think so. That is why Stacy want to talk about MJ); however, I think Michael was good man in heart and music.
 
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Petrarose said:
I was in someone's home today & was told this story was all over the news. I thought you guys said it was not being covered much. I was told it was on channel 7, 4, TMZ, I think they said 5 too. Maybe some of the New York local channels covered this & we did not notice. Anyway, the family did not believe Wade only because he waited after Michael died & was in music videos. I shared the inconsistency issues with them as well, including Knew all the time, testimony in 05, him not "understanding" when the prosecutor gave him that explicit direct examination, etc.

Whoisit the people in the family who give Stacey information are at fault too. If the stories are not true, then the particular family member simple has to have their lawyer send Stacey a letter. However, since he keeps doing this, we know the family is doing nothing. Look at how Taj said nothing forceful to Stacey. Stacy is allowed to continue his false & hateful claims against Michael, because the family allows it. The same family that asked AEG for a settlement.
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That maybe in the city you are in; however where everyone else live, this story was not talked about it much in my area not even on my local news who usually talk about this kind of stuff (and those who heard it rolled their eyes). And now, I hear nothing. Thank goodness.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

LarryBono said:
I cannot believe we are doing this again you guys

I don't think I can handle the month of June , it's hard enough approaching the 4th anniversary of his passing but if this really goes to a civil trial I think I will have to be in the hospital. I can't deal with anymore injustice , after Troy Davis and the possiblity of George Zimmerman getting away with murdering Trayvon Martin and now this I just don't know.

If Wade is rewarded the money in the civil trial Michael's reputation will be damaged even after his death ... the good thing is that alot of the media and celebs do not buy his nonsense.

I love how Jojo dragged him on her twitter.
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I think you are comparing apples to orangers. The Zimmerman case is about MURDER of an UNARMED guy. ANd yes, the some folkes tried to paint that kid as a THUG and folks are not buying it. Do not sell some people short. I think the average person can see through stuff. ANd when it comes to the media, they are giving what THEY want to put out there. Look at Foxnews and MSNBC. BOTH are giving their views and they bicker back and forth and tell what their audience or what they think. Foxnews news talked about Rev AL Sharpton and said 80% of people do not want him. Well, MSNBC did a poll on Rev AL Sharpton and 90% of their poll love Sharpton. That is what the media does. Look at when MJ was going through the 2005 case, people who talked a positive of MJ did not get air time but haters did. Does that mean most people hated MJ? No, it was just the media wanted to paint MJ as bad and put on anyone who does so.
 
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Here's a clip done by my friend. Here's what she say about Wade's allegations towards Michael.

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innuendo141 said:
This is the Best post I've. read in ages.

My sentiments exactly.


Fair play my man!!!!
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Totally agree
MICHAEL JACKSON WAS NOT A CHILD MOLESTER
I believe this in my soul but have my own health problems and know michael is safe now and I will always defend him but I am going to leave this circus for my own piece of mind I praise all of you who fight the good fight on his behalf:)Michaels legacy will come through this stronger than ever:) truth is on the estates side:)
I came back to the forum for the AEG trial but have just had major surgery and feel this is the right time to say goodbye:'(
God bless and keep you all
L.O.V.E@-}--
 
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terrell said:
Baby, NO one of importance is paying this mess no attention. NO one knows Stacy Brown but us and tabloid people. Last night, Julia got a great applause for doing MJ. And the BIllboard, many were talkin how good the show was and what Tracy and Chris Did (Dee dee a radio host, did not think Chris did MJ good. LOL. WE know there is only ONE MJ). They are NOT going to hurt MJ no more. Yes,it makes you angry but I see no one of importance care about these clowns. I am listening to the radio now and as I speak MJ song HUman nature is on. Yes, MJ I know you are listening.
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That's only because right now there is many more important news to cover. But it's only temporary. Unfortunately that kind of stories are the worst ever. And they are extremely harmful not only for MJ image but also for fans feelings. And Taj's comments about Brown are not enough. The family and especially Rebbie (who attends AEG lawsuit with her mother) went so low spending MJ's money on the lawsuit they will definitely loose instead fightings Brown and some others in the court for defamation not only MJ's name but all the family name. I feel so sorry for Michael children being risen and brainwashed by this "loving" family. We may wish they will wake up on time (like Michael himself) and distance themselves from grandma and her cubs so they would be able to earn the respect of the industry again. Right now I don't suspect any other feeling toward them than disappointment and hate all the people who are siding with AEG (which is 95 % of the show-business industry.
 
Tweet from Taj

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Taj Jackson ‏@tajjackson3 15h

“@jodigomes: Miss you #MJ pic.twitter.com/tUcbCzuxGk” Beautiful Jodi, thank you :)
 
Paris78;3827847 said:
Tweet from Taj

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Taj Jackson ‏@tajjackson3 15h

“@jodigomes: Miss you #MJ pic.twitter.com/tUcbCzuxGk” Beautiful Jodi, thank you :)
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Absolutely he was a true angel....It just baffles me that there are people out there who look at him as the exact opposite :(
 
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hi all... what's Rays book? (embarrassed as I should probably know...). seems like something I need to read..
 
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this Taj's tweet: sooooooooooooo beautiful and sooooooooooooooo true :(
 
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I appreciate the little things people have been doing lately to get through the negativity going on right now. Much needed.
 
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MJJ2theMAX said:
hi all... what's Rays book? (embarrassed as I should probably know...). seems like something I need to read..
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Ray Chandler's book is entitled All That Glitters - The Crime and the Cover-up. It was published in 2004. He's the uncle of Jordan Chandler (brother of Evan), so the purpose of his book is not to exonarate Michael, on the contrary, but he can't help but tell on themselves all the time in that book. I have to say it's a big help in showing the Chandler's motives and actions. Since they were never cross-examined (with the exception of June, who didn't say much on the stand) this is where you can "cross-examine" their claims, so to speak.
 
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Prince Jackson ?@princemjjjaxon 6 min

D.S.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^these tweets speak more than a complete news report and people speaking.

I used to see one or two articles bout it nd now it came to none at all. Itll be all good, all good
 
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Yes i thhink prince is refering to the D.S song from the history album
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

By LunaJo


Ok, so Wade Robson claims he remembered the abuse about two years ago. How convenient! The statue of limitation is THREE years. So he had to say two years.

Civil Lawsuits for Sexual Abuse
In California, the filing of a civil claim of sexual abuse must be made within 8 years of the age of majority (meaning before your 26th birthday). However, California is one of 28 states that have adopted an extension of the statute of limitations based on the "discovery" of child sexual abuse or its effects. While nearly every state has a basic suspension of the statute of limitations while someone is a minor, many states have recently adopted these new "discovery" extensions specifically designed for cases of sexual child abuse. The discovery rule allows for civil lawsuits to go forward when they are "within three years of the date the plaintiff discovers or reasonably should have discovered that psychological injury or illness occurring after the age of majority was caused by the sexual abuse.

This rule was designed to counter the problem of prosecuting molesters who's victims had repressed the memories for decades, long after the statute of limitations expired. Now, upon "discovery" of the memories of abuse (often through therapy), a person has 3 years to file a claim.

After the Catholic Church abuse scandals, California also enacted a law that allows for lawsuits against people whom were aware of the unlawful sexual conduct by their "employee, volunteer, representative, or agent", and failed to take "reasonable steps" to prevent it. Upon his discovery of this person or entity, a plaintiff has one year to sue.
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So this is maybe why Wade Robson waited so long. Before the Estate had only debts; but now they are making money and now Robson knows there is something to get for him. Although the time is against him.
He is lying anyway and I hope the Estate will kick his ass! >>>>> http://blogs.findlaw.com/injured/2012/01/can-you-sue-a-dead-person.html
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I've not seen any covering of it at all in the last few days since the Tonight Show. People have been pulling children out of rubble in Oklahoma and the rest of the media focused on Jodi Arias' choice of attire. Didn't have much time to watch much other stuff, though. I can guarantee you though that in the Southwest of the US people have far more pressing issues than that clown. Camera crews are still here in Oklahoma - or at least were here until today since press was not officially let into most of the area until about 3PM. I haven't had the nerve to follow more as a natural disaster is horrible enough.
 
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Ashtanga said:
By LunaJo



http://www.facebook.com/groups/wdhtmj/permalink/474008672675113/






http://www.facebook.com/groups/wdhtmj/permalink/474005952675385/




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There was that other civil law though that a fan brought up on this thread earlier, which says the statue of limitation for any claim (not just sexual abuse claims) in case of a dead person is one year (I think it was one year) after his or her death. So I think it will come down to what code trumps the other and if this Judge thinks it's reasonable to believe that Wade could not not have this information before that his psychological illness is a result of child sexual abuse.

We know now it's not repressed memory they will claim. They claim that Wade had some breakdown, a psychological illness and he only realized recently that it's the result of child sexual abuse by MJ. He says he knew he was abused all along. He was just unable or unwilling to process it emotionally - or some crap like that. In the US you can find a therapist in support of any theory or claim, so the therapist's opinion that they attach will probably be supportive of this. Whether the Judge will find it reasonable enough to trump the statue of limitation for dead people? I hope not because that could open a whole new can of worms, where anybody can make a claim against MJ at any time, even if there is a reason why the law of statue of limitations for dead people exists. His rights have been violated enough in life (both in 1993 and 2005) they should not continue to violate his rights in death too.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

respect77 said:
There was that other civil law though that a fan brought up on this thread earlier, which says the statue of limitation for any claim (not just sexual abuse claims) in case of a dead person is one year (I think it was one year) after his or her death. So I think it will come down to what code trumps the other.
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I guess it's probably why he is suing MJJ venture and MJJ productions, without them he has no lawsuit.
 
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