[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I am so FED UP with all these bullshits about MJ coming every day. It is getting worst and uglier.

it is a shame how he can be crucified. He is dead for 4 years now. Can't they LEAVE HIM ALONE.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It's done and this is Taj answer.

oh sorry. Im not on twitter.
Well, that's good. I hope it pisses him off enough to lash out at Brown publically.. (oh well, i can dream, right?)
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't even know what to say anymore, both Stacy Brown and Diane Diamond have made a good living out of trashing MJ, it's all they are known for, jeez.... And they say we are obsessed, look in the mirror sweethearts.

Seriously, when are the Jacksons going to call Stacy Brown out, everything he says is based on what he has been told directly by a member of the family (apparently), I don't know how or why they let him get away with it, do they only care when it's directed at them (LaToya) don't they care when he is trashing Michael constantly and all under the guise of being a Jackson insider.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't even know what to say anymore, both Stacy Brown and Diane Diamond have made a good living out of trashing MJ, it's all they are known for, jeez.... And they say we are obsessed, look in the mirror sweethearts.

Seriously, when are the Jacksons going to call Stacy Brown out, everything he says is based on what he has been told directly by a member of the family (apparently), I don't know how or why they let him get away with it, do they only care when it's directed at them (LaToya) don't they care when he is trashing Michael constantly and all under the guise of being a Jackson insider.

also, the fact that he can talk crap about MJ like that without the family opening a can of whoop ass on him, and even continues to be friends with him also makes many think that he's telling the truth.
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Stacy Brown is one pitiful human being, in my opinion.

Unless something is going on in the Land of Michael Jackson, Stacy has no life and apparently, no career.

All of these folks who came out during the trial, thought that they would hit the big time, i.e. having their own cablenews show and/or a permanent byline in some big metropolitan newspaper, but alas, that never happened. I'm sure Diane Dimond thought she would be the next Diane Sawyer or the next Katie Couric. LOL!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Seriously, when are the Jacksons going to call Stacy Brown out, everything he says is based on what he has been told directly by a member of the family (apparently), I don't know how or why they let him get away with it, do they only care when it's directed at them (LaToya) don't they care when he is trashing Michael constantly and all under the guise of being a Jackson insider.

No they don't care! I gave up on them a long, long time ago.

The day that Michael died, the very first thing I see on television when I got home from work, was Brian Oxman talking about "WE knew this was going to happen." And the drug talk continued. I said to myself: "the Jackson family is gonna kick his butt." Took me a minute or so to see that the Jacksons weren't going to do a dang thing, and that Oxman was in cahoots with them. That's when I washed my hand's of the entire Jackson tribe.

Now let something happen that involves money and they will take to their various Twitter accounts faster than you can say "Billie Jean."
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

No one of importance knows or care about Stacy BRown.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

No they don't care! I gave up on them a long, long time ago.

The day that Michael died, the very first thing I see on television when I got home from work, was Brian Oxman talking about "WE knew this was going to happen."

... and then we saw Joe pimping his new record label a few days after MJ died. So much for a grieving father....
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I always wonder about those that throw stones to hide their hands. guiterrez,brown world of wonder.so desperate to call others abuser. makes u wonder what they are hiding. maureen is disgusting but we knew that along time ago

We have a saying in Sweden ;the one who said it , was it
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I want Rebbie to call him out on this
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I am so FED UP with all these bullshits about MJ coming every day. It is getting worst and uglier.

it is a shame how he can be crucified. He is dead for 4 years now. Can't they LEAVE HIM ALONE.
Baby, NO one of importance is paying this mess no attention. NO one knows Stacy Brown but us and tabloid people. Last night, Julia got a great applause for doing MJ. And the BIllboard, many were talkin how good the show was and what Tracy and Chris Did (Dee dee a radio host, did not think Chris did MJ good. LOL. WE know there is only ONE MJ). They are NOT going to hurt MJ no more. Yes,it makes you angry but I see no one of importance care about these clowns. I am listening to the radio now and as I speak MJ song HUman nature is on. Yes, MJ I know you are listening.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Haha one of Stacy Brown' s arguments to me was: ''the FBI says that better than 99 percent of males who say they were molested by men tell the truth about it. That's a fact.'' We have a smartass over here! :D
Well, Stacy needs to also say, MOST CHILD MOLESTERS are men who have a guy-next-door apperance. Stacy Brown fit the profile of a child molester than MJ.
 
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Stacey Brown is a piece of dung. He has sold the same tabloid crap and the crap from Bob Jones book to th tabloids over and over .. Thats how he makes his living .. Selling crap

Mina Bolden This woman never gives up trying to make a living off MJ. He's dead. What more do you want?
Mina Bolden Louise Palanker was thoroughly discredited on the stand in court in 2005.
Mina Bolden Stacy Brown, how are you such good friends with Rebbie Jackson Brown when you think her brother is a molester? 4 hours ago · Like · 2


Stacy Brown Mina, Rebbie very well knows my views of her brother. The fact is, most of you fans speak out of purely blind dedication. You can't appreciate my view simply because you weren't privy to what I was, you weren't there to see what I saw, or hear what I heard. I loved MJ's music and, for a long time, thought the world of him. When I first heard Jordy's allegations, my first reaction was "no way!" When I first heard Gavin's allegations, my first reaction was "no way!" But, seeing what I saw, and hearing what I heard and being around the Jacksons in some of the most intimate of moments, and seeing the evidence, it was too overwhelming. It was easy to put it all together. And, for someone to say Diane Dimond book isn't credible, she quoted directly from the trial, it's irrefutable. Mesereau, you guys' hero, promised things to the jury after he said his promises were a "contract" but he couldn't and didn't fulfill them and proved to have lied or mislead the jury. Recall too that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ALTERNATE JURORS came out the day of the verdicts and said they disagreed with the verdicts. I had two jurors (Ray Hultman and Ellie Cooke) who were on the panel that voted not guilty come to me and say they were intimidated into voting not guilty. We had evidence to that none other than Katherine Jackson tampered with the jury. Also, and I'll put this out there to you, Taj Jackson (Tito's son) came out the other day and said he was molested by someone on his mother's side. To you fans that was a shocker, to those who know/knew the Jacksons it wasn't. Jermaine and his then-mistress, Lawanda, told me in 1999, that Taj was molested by MICHAEL!!!!! Of course, Taj says it wasn't Michael. In the end, let me conclude this long response with this, if you have a child who is between 7 and 13 and you had a neighbor who dramatically changed the color of his skin, wore surgical masks, had a drug problem, slept with young boys who were not related to him, cried (as his own defenders testified) when denied the chance to sleep with a young boy, and whom did all of the eccentric things MJ did, would you not think/believe that something was wrong? That this was a pedophile? Would you let your child sleep with him if his name was John Smith not Michael Jackson? Yeah, didn't think so. 3 hours ago · Like · 2

Alen Predanič ''About Wade, I find it hard to believe that MJ would have called a child he been molesting for years to be his opening defense and hope for the best!!'' EXACTLY Sandra!!! Who does that? about an hour ago · Like · 3


Stacy Brown Alen, you nor anyone else including his family (go back and look at the tape of KABC after the big Oprah and MJ interview) knew he had vitiligo until the oprah interview. So, the point is, even his family was in the dark about why his skin was changing. Remember Jermaine wrote a song about it, "First you were made/you changed your shade." My point was simple, if you saw all of this you have to be alarmed. Alen, if you have children and none of that alarmed you, then you are an interesting parent. Emile Fields I didn't say MJ molested Taj and I am not doubting Taj, I simply said what Jermaine and Lawanda opined back in 1999. 34 minutes ago · Like


Alen Predanič @Stacy Brown OK then, but that's like thinking ''where there's smoke, there's fire.'' and I feel like your mind works like this too. You seem to be trapped in all negativity and you take everything against MJ. Of course some jury- Ray Hultman and Eleanor Cook changed their minds in 2005, because they were given book deals $$$$. What do you think about that? + Gavin and his mother are proven liars, please read Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones based on given evidence and court transcripts .27 minutes ago · Edited · Like · 1


Stacy Brown Alen, I absolutely believe where there is a lot of smoke there is fire. Hultman and Cook by the way did not get a book deal and made no money. I also didn't see where Gavin or his mother were proven to be liars. In fact, as crazy as she seemed to most, the videos shown in court backed up her testimony. Believe it or not, Aphrodite called me to help vet some of the information in her book. Look, in any he-said, she-said, situation we'll never fully know exactly what happened. People talk about facts, the FBI says that better than 99 percent of males who say they were molested by men tell the truth about it. That's a fact. Whether MJ was a child molester is really irrelevant now, he's gone. In the book I wrote for Bob Jones and in Diane Dimond book, he is not called a pedophile. Both books try and present a balanced look at him and allow the reader to decide whatever they wish. Die-hard and angry fans only want people to showering MJ with praise all the time. The only perfect person to walk the Earth was Jesus Christ. 16 minutes ago · Like


Alen Predanič @Stacy Brown '' the FBI says that better than 99 percent of males who say they were molested by men tell the truth about it. That's a fact.'' - Sorry Stacy, but that's not a way to go when you have a man whoose life could falsly end in a prison for rest of his life! VIDEOS IN COURT BACKED UP HER TESTIMONY?! Please tell me you saw a video where she and whole family is praising MJ for giving them hope and home in Neverland, for healing Gavin from deadliest cancer. They are giving him the nicest words ever and there is even a moment when Gavin and his mother are making fun of people were judging Michael for holding Gavin's hand in Bashir documentary. When doing that they ask if the camera is rolling and they become shy, because it was recording. That wasn't scripted it was honest words. Or you think about the video where police are asking Gavin questions about the abuse and they are feeding him with words and he seats there completely comfortable talking about grown-man touching him + the RED FLAG: He was 13 on the video and he didn't know anything about sex when the police asked him simple questions. Sorry, but 13 old boys know everything about sex. And how can you ignore Arvizo's family long list of taking advantage of celebrities for money? They also had a lot experience with lawyers and police, they weren't just poor people who wanted justice for his son. And yes they were proven liars. They changed the story 100 times.
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Mike DS @Stacy Brown, please, show your evidence or stop to tell bullshit everywhere, it's tiring.You know MJ was a pedo & some Jack$on$ think he was a pedo, you have evidence, so show us the evidence,if you're just talking bs,please stop,you look like a moron.
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Stacy Brown This is my last post on this: The fans will have their opinions and others will have theirs.
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https://www.facebook.com/diane.dimond
See, when this person called him out, He wants to run. Stacy do not have @#$% because there is NOTHING. As for Rebbie, Unless we hear it out of Rebbie's mouth, Stacy is talking Bull. Look at how the MJ FAN ,as Stacy want to say, is challenging a MJ HATER who is Stacy; and HE can not back up nothing he say. That is how you know whose the liar. This person, who challenge Stacy when he talks about fans being blind should have talke about people who are HATERS and who want to use MJ for to make a living for $$$$. Stacy just prove that is what he is. HE want to talk about what FBI do YET when people who PROOF of what the FBI PROVEN about MJ, Idoits like Stacy whats to change the subject. Look, I am still working here in law enforcement in the office and even my co workers thought MJ was set up and innocent (and we are the police force), so figure. Shut up Stacy. He is only talking what HE HOPES MJ to be. I wont be surprise if Stacy is pedophile. He is trying to hard to paint someone else as one with NO PROOF. The 2005 case PROVED everything because NO rock was left unturn in that case and Sneddon and Zonen did not let up and we know DD was old Sneddon bubby. So Stacy is talking mess. He better talk only to who he is talking too. I think the OVERALL public is tired of this mess now.Look at Wade, I hear crickets now and hardly no one but haters talked about Wade (and that was not that many if you look at the overall population).
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I want Rebbie to call him out on this
Well, Taj needs to tell Rebbie and Rebbie needs to kick Stacy @#%. Anyone can say "this person told me". Look at DD. She did the same thing about some things and she lied.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

respect77 - here you go

Stacy Brown: Alen, I absolutely believe where there is a lot of smoke there is fire. Hultman and Cook by the way did not get a book deal and made no money. I also didn't see where Gavin or his mother were proven to be liars. In fact, as crazy as she seemed to most, the videos shown in court backed up her testimony. Believe it or not, Aphrodite called me to help vet some of the information in her book. Look, in any he-said, she-said, situation we'll never fully know exactly what happened. People talk about facts, the FBI says that better than 99 percent of males who say they were molested by men tell the truth about it. That's a fact. Whether MJ was a child molester is really irrelevant now, he's gone. In the book I wrote for Bob Jones and in Diane Dimond book, he is not called a pedophile. Both books try and present a balanced look at him and allow the reader to decide whatever they wish. Die-hard and angry fans only want people to showering MJ with praise all the time. The only perfect person to walk the Earth was Jesus Christ.

the link: https://www.facebook.com/diane.dimond/posts/10200787350618635?comment_id=5860291&notif_t=like

Thanks, but I didn't mean a link to what SB posted (I can totally see him posting such stupid crap). I just theoretically asked if Stacy could give a link to where the FBI declares this "fact". LOL.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I want to see Jermaine step up to the mark to defend himself after Stacy Bull**** reckons he told him that it was MJ who molested Taj. If he doesn't it just re-inforces the fact that the family care nothing about defending MJ when he is no longer here to defend himself. Sickening!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And for the record Stacy, FANS and people with OPEN MINDS and who are FAIR will have good opinions of MJ If they see the facts of his case. There are people who are NOT MJ fans who do NOT think he did anything. So what are those non fans who think MJ is innocent Stacy? Idoit. And as a fan, I do not need Stacy to tell me how I feel. If someone I love is doing something wrong, I will say so; and if someone I hate is doing something right, I will give that person his/her credit. So Stacy need to stop acting like he knows what a fan thinks. I can say haters are hating because when haters talk,they talk with non sense, tabloid gossip,and lies and half truths, and NOTHING to back it up.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Well, guys... I think that maybe, maybe its partially "fine" that all these people from Guttierrez, DD and Brown up to Francia a Mcmanus and all opportunists ... can have they say... and say something that can be directly confronted in front of the jury or public..., eventhough its hurtful for MJ and us, unfortunately again, but it may clear many things and people and their previous statements and claims up!

I still can not believe that 12 people in the jury would believe everything from WR and co. if we fans do know many pieces of key statements evidence and like in 2005/1993 Francia and McManus could now be believable..., if they lied before and were found liars.

What amazes me is the relevance what is given to people like Mcmanus... if the media and many journalists do know the facts because they were in the courtroom, listening to all the testimonies and .... now... they try to pretend they have key witnesses... or what?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Thanks, but I didn't mean a link to what SB posted (I can totally see him posting such stupid crap). I just theoretically asked if Stacy could give a link to where the FBI declares this "fact". LOL.
Respect77. He is an idoit. He has no facts of that information. If we were to go by what FBI calls a "profile", MJ does NOT even fit it. REAL child molesters are often guys who have the guy-next-door apperance. They are viewed as "normal". Look at the coach at PENN STATE. LOOK AT THE guy in CLeveland, OHIO. In my city, a guy here pleded guilty to child porn and child abuse;and guess what, HE WAS A FIREFIGHTER.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Respect77. He is an idoit. He has no facts of that information. If we were to go by what FBI calls a "profile", MJ does NOT even fit it. REAL child molesters are often guys who have the guy-next-door apperance. They are viewed as "normal". Look at the coach at PENN STATE. LOOK AT THE guy in CLeveland, OHIO. In my city, a guy here pleded guilty to child porn and child abuse;and guess what, HE WAS A FIREFIGHTER.

I know. It was a joke.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

You should've responded with: Where there is Bullsh*t, there is Diane Diamond & Stacy Brown talking.

Where there's smoke there's fire--OR--Where there's smoke, there's a lot of SMOKERS!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Respect77. He is an idoit. He has no facts of that information. If we were to go by what FBI calls a "profile", MJ does NOT even fit it. REAL child molesters are often guys who have the guy-next-door apperance. They are viewed as "normal". Look at the coach at PENN STATE. LOOK AT THE guy in CLeveland, OHIO. In my city, a guy here pleded guilty to child porn and child abuse;and guess what, HE WAS A FIREFIGHTER.

AND they dont only offend once every 10th year.....
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Well, guys... I think that maybe, maybe its partially "fine" that all these people from Guttierrez, DD and Brown up to Francia a Mcmanus and all opportunists ... can have they say... and say something that can be directly confronted in front of the jury or public..., eventhough its hurtful for MJ and us, unfortunately again, but it may clear many things and people and their previous statements and claims up!

I still can not believe that 12 people in the jury would believe everything from WR and co. if we fans do know many pieces of key statements evidence and like in 2005/1993 Francia and McManus could now be believable..., if they lied before and were found liars.

What amazes me is the relevance what is given to people like Mcmanus... if the media and many journalists do know the facts because they were in the courtroom, listening to all the testimonies and .... now... they try to pretend they have key witnesses... or what?
People know these people are clowns. Do you see Diamond on any SERIOUS next program? NO. WHo knows Stacy Brown other than this board? NO one. Heck I do not even know MCmanus until I came on here. Go figure.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

AND they dont only offend once every 10th year.....
Exactly. And the accusers of REAL pedophiles DO NOT change their stories, go after money, etc. Even people who have been abused and do not tell, those people do NOT deal with their abusers in any way. These accusers stay distance from people who abused them. They do not go around PRAISING, talking good, and admiring people who really abused them. I do not care about Stacy. HE is only making himself look stupid.
 
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Where there's smoke there's fire--OR--Where there's smoke, there's a lot of SMOKERS!

LOL, good comeback on this stupid saying "where there's smoke there's fire".
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I would not know half of these clowns if I did not come on here and hear you all talk about these idoits. And people get suspious of someone (DD) who is ALWAYS running and talking about someone. It soon backfires. I laugh when the female attorney told DD back in 2005 that COurt tv FIRED her. DD was mad and her face was red. Again, people see through Bull. LOok at GLoria Alred, she is a joke now. Even Nancy was getting heat and she is trying to tone it down. Nancy almost had an accident on DWTS with her breast. The next day most of the comments were against Nancy and people saying "you are guilty", you are this and that. They were giving her piece of her own medicine. And I hate to say this but when these people die, NO ONE IS GOING TO care and it may not even make news. BUT MJ will live and be talked about forever.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wonder how Rebbie Jack$on ,who is a good friend of Stacy Brown, is feeling right now....Must be fun between the Jack$on$ right now lol
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Would he be kind to give us a link to where the FBI says that? LOL.

LOL I see which link you wanted! :D ...but he can't really link us to his brain where the FBI facts are being made! haha
 
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And Janet said she knew about MJ skin disorder. So Stacy even on that mess "even his family" did not know is rubbish. Janet was dealing with MJ far more than Jermaine. And look at the comments Stacy makes (again, haters always make no sense). He say he never called MJ a pedophile YET he is talking about "Where there is smoke,there is fire". When he is challenged, Stacy goes off on something else and then he does not want to post no more. That is how you know someone is full of @#$%. I am out. Peace.
 
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